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Counsel to Counsel - Career Advice for Lawyers

Stephen Seckler: attorney career, marketing and leadership coach

100 episodes

Counsel to Counsel is a periodic podcast produced by Stephen Seckler of Seckler Attorney Coaching (www.seckler.com). It addresses important career, marketing, and leadership issues facing attorneys. The target audience is associates, counsel and partners at law firms of all sizes; but the podcast also addresses issues that are relevant to in-house counsel, law students or any lawyer who is looking for career insights inside or outside of the law.

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Counsel to Counsel is aimed at individual lawyers who are looking to increase their own career satisfaction and build their marketing and leadership skills. The podcast features interviews with leading consultants, career professionals and marketing experts who advise attorneys on careers, marketing, law firm management and related issues. The guests are also a roster of successful attorneys who have found career satisfaction inside and outside the law.

Counsel to Counsel is a direct outgrowth of the blog Counsel to Counsel which Stephen Seckler has been publishing since 2005.

Since graduating from law school in the late 1980s, Stephen Seckler has been advising lawyers on career and marketing issues and working with a broad mix of law firms and corporate law departments. He began blogging when legal blogging was in its infancy and his blog Counsel to Counsel was named to the ABA Journal's Blawg 100 in 2007 and 2008 (the first two years that list was in existence).

Steve has written extensively on career and marketing issues and he has spoken at many law school, law firm and bar association events. He served on the Boston Bar Association's Standing Committee on Work Life Balance and was Vice Chair of the Law Practice Management Section of the Massachusetts Bar Association. He is active in the, the ProVisors business network, sits on the Career Center Board of the American Bar Association, and on the editorial boards of the ABA publications GPSolo and GPSolo eReport. He has been quoted frequently in the legal and business press.

Since 2021, he has been named a top coach in the Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly Reader Rankings Awards (#1 or #2 for Business Development Coach, Lawyer Outplacement Service, and Executive Coaching).

He is the author of Think Like a Lawyer, Act Like an Entrepreneur (American Bar Association, 2025).

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  1. Episode 186: Building a Law Practice by Design, Not by Default with Susan Guthrie

    · 45 min · Episode 186

    What if you could start your law practice all over again? Would you build it the same way? Many lawyers build successful practices without ever consciously deciding what they want those practices to look like. They…

  2. Episode 185: Why Lawyers Resist AI and How Law Firms Can Overcome It, with Dr. Gleb Tsipursky

    · 44 min · Episode 185

    Artificial intelligence is changing the practice of law. Lawyers are increasingly using AI for legal research, drafting, business development, and a growing number of other tasks. But while some lawyers are…

  3. Episode 184-Stepping Off the Treadmill: Ginny Johnson on Sabbaticals, Career Transitions, and the Future of Legal Careers

    · 49 min · Episode 184

    What happens when a successful lawyer decides to step away from a demanding career without having the next job lined up? My guest on this episode of Counsel to Counsel, Ginny Johnson, did just that. After more than…

  4. Episode 183: From Practicing Law to Consulting with Law Firms on Strategy, Operations, and Growth

    · 43 min

    One of the questions I hear most frequently from lawyers who are unhappy practicing law is: What else can I do with a law degree? Making that transition can be difficult, particularly when you've spent years building…

  5. Episode 182: How Lawyers Can Develop a Thicker Skin and Become More Resilient—with Dr. Larry Richard

    · 53 min · Episode 182

    Why are lawyers so good at spotting problems and sometimes so bad at letting them go? For more than two decades, I've followed the research of Dr. Larry Richard, widely recognized as the leading expert on the…

  6. Episode 181: Legal Marketing for New Law Firm Launches with Michele Correnti

    · 44 min · Episode 181

    In this episode, Stephen Seckler speaks with Michele Correnti about branding, websites, LinkedIn, content marketing, and how AI is changing the way law firms market themselves. They discuss what lawyers should do…

  7. Episode 180-Thinking About Starting Your Own Law Firm? Avoid These Ethical Mistakes (With Mike Rossi)

    · 37 min · Episode 180

    Starting your own law firm can be one of the most exciting and rewarding career moves a lawyer can make. But amid the excitement of choosing a name, finding clients, and building a practice, it's easy to overlook…

  8. Episode 179: Beyond Law Firms: Careers in Law Schools and Nonprofits

    · 30 min · Episode 179

    Many lawyers assume their career options begin and end with practicing law. In this episode, Steve speaks with Tony Waller, a lawyer, educator, former nonprofit CEO, and career development leader whose career…

  9. Episode 178-Becoming a Legal Recruiter: Navigating an Alternative Legal Career with Matt Miller

    · 36 min · Episode 178

    In this episode, Steve sits down with Matt Miller to discuss Matt's unconventional journey from practicing lawyer to what he describes as an "accidental tourist" in legal recruiting. They explore why he doesn't…

  10. Episode 177-Understanding Executive Functioning and Its Impact on Lawyers' Performance

    · 32 min · Episode 177

    In this episode, Steve Seckler speaks with Dr. Sarah Alsaidi, a psychologist, executive coach, and creator of the Brain in Mind Method, a coaching framework that integrates neuroscience and psychology to help…

  11. Episode 176-What Makes for a Happy Lawyer or Successful Associate?

    · 41 min · Episode 176

    In this episode, Steve's guest, Paul Karvanis, delves into redefining success and happiness within the legal profession. Paul, a former lawyer turned coach, speaker, and author, shares his journey from practicing law…

  12. Episode 175-Making Strategic Lateral Moves: Insights for Law Firm Partners from a Top Legal Recruiter

    · 38 min · Episode 175

    In this episode, Scott Love, a renowned legal recruiter and host of the Rainmaking Podcast, delves into the complexities of lateral partner transitions within law firms. Scott shares his wealth of experience, offering…

  13. Episode 174-How Self-Awareness Increases Your Effectiveness in Managing Your Legal Team

    · 36 min · Episode 174

    Self-awareness is an important and often overlooked skill in a lawyer's toolkit. Personality and behavioral assessments like DISC can be used in a practical, grounded way to help lawyers better understand their…

  14. Episode 173-Managing a Demanding Career While Caring for an Aging Parent

    · 34 min · Episode 173

    In this episode, Steve Seckler speaks with Amy Mariani, a Boston-based mediator and former litigator. She shares her deeply personal journey navigating her professional life alongside caring for her mother with…

  15. Episode 172-Boundaries, Burnout, and Building a Sustainable Legal Career with Gary Miles

    · 31 min · Episode 172

    In this episode, Gary Miles delves into the pervasive issue of burnout in the legal profession and offers practical strategies for establishing healthy boundaries. Drawing from his extensive experience, Gary discusses…

  16. Episode 171-A Career in Legal Operations with Jeff Kruse

    · 34 min · Episode 171

    Legal operations has evolved from a back-office function into a strategic discipline that is reshaping how legal services are delivered. In this conversation, Stephen Seckler speaks with legal operations consultant…

  17. Episode 170-Shauna Bryce on How to use (and Not to Use) AI in a Job Search

    · 40 min · Episode 170

    In this episode, Steve talks with Shauna Bryce of Bryce Legal about finding the right balance between AI tools and old-fashioned relationship-building in today's legal job market. Shauna shares concrete examples of how…

  18. Episode 169-Creating a Blueprint to Launch Your Solo Law Practice--with Anthonia Berry

    · 34 min · Episode 169

    In this episode, Stephen Seckler interviews Anthonia Berry, a legal marketing and business development strategist, about her new program, Building Your Own Practice Blueprint. The program is designed to help lawyers…

  19. Episode 168-Matt Selig of Health Law Advocates: Practicing Public Interest Law

    · 33 min

    In this episode, Stephen Seckler interviews Matt Selig, the Executive Director of Health Law Advocates (HLA), a nonprofit organization dedicated to improving healthcare access for vulnerable populations in…

  20. Episode 167-From Litigation to Mediation with Oran Kaufman

    · 29 min · Episode 167

    In this episode, Stephen Seckler speaks with Oran Kaufman, a mediator with an extensive background in family law. They discuss Oran's journey from litigation to mediation, the skills required to be a mediator, and how…

  21. Counsel to Counsel-Coming in Late January 2026

    · 0:34

    We are taking a pause until mid-late January 2026 for some upgrades. We are adding a YouTube feed to our mix for listeners who prefer video and we are lining up some great guests to talk to you about your legal career.…

  22. Episode 166-Marketing for Introverts with Saja Raoof, Border Wall Destroyer

    · 32 min · Episode 166

    In this episode, Steve speaks with Saja Raoof, an immigration lawyer based in the Bay Area, about how introverted lawyers can build thriving practices without pretending to be extroverts. A self-proclaimed introvert…

  23. Episode 165-Retirement on Trial with Steve Herman

    · 43 min · Episode 165

    In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, Stephen Seckler speaks with Steve Herman, a civil litigator and documentary filmmaker from Vancouver, Canada. After more than 35 years in practice, Steve turned the camera on…

  24. Episode 164-Experiencing Renewal in the Jewish New Year

    · 5:55 · Episode 164

    In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, I reflect on some of the themes of the Jewish New Year and the importance of self reflection (and the fact that you get to do it twice a year if you happen to be Jewish!)

  25. Episode 163- How to Use Book Publishing to Build Your Brand-with Melanie Herschorn

    · 31 min · Episode 163

    Publishing a book may feel like an overwhelming project, but for lawyers it can be one of the most effective ways to build credibility, attract new clients, and open doors to new opportunities. In this episode of…

  26. Episode 162-"What Do Lawyers Really Want?" with Philippe Danielides

    · 42 min · Episode 162

    Many lawyers are clear about what they don't want in their career. But they struggle to define what they do want. In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, Steve Seckler speaks with Philippe Danielides, former Biglaw…

  27. Episode 161- Managing Law Firms Across the Generations with Daya Naef

    · 31 min · Episode 161

    In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, Steve Seckler speaks with attorney, entrepreneur, and legal business strategist Daya Naef, founder of The Success Partner, about how law firms can navigate the generational…

  28. Episode 160- How AI is Disrupting Digital Marketing for Lawyers with Annie Stern

    · 36 min · Episode 160

    Artificial intelligence is dramatically changing how legal services are marketed—and how clients find lawyers. In this episode, Steve Seckler speaks with Annie Stern, a seasoned digital marketing strategist, about what…

  29. Episode 159-How (Not) to Communicate Like a Lawyer

    · 8:12 · Episode 159

    As lawyers, we are trained to analyze, critique, and mitigate risk — all essential skills in practice. But when we bring that same mindset into our everyday conversations, we can unintentionally undermine connection…

  30. Episode 158-Marketing and Selfcare are Habit Forming

    · 9:37 · Episode 158

    In this solo episode, attorney Stephen Seckler reflects on the importance of building small, consistent habits—both for professional success and personal wellbeing. Drawing on his own efforts to reduce news and screen…

  31. Episode 157-Planning Your Exit From the Law

    · 34 min · Episode 157

    Many lawyers find themselves questioning whether the traditional practice of law is the right long-term fit. In this episode, host Stephen Seckler speaks with Kim Fine and Neil Handwerker, co-founders of ex judicata, a…

  32. Episode 156-Think Like a Lawyer, Act Like an Entrepreneur – Chapter One

    · 32 min · Episode 156

    In this special solo episode of Counsel to Counsel, I take a break from my usual interview format to share something personal: the audio version of Chapter One of my new book, Think Like a Lawyer, Act Like an…

  33. Episode 155: From Lawyering to Legal Tech with Ben Chiriboga

    · 41 min · Episode 155

    In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, Steve speaks with legal tech executive and former practicing attorney Ben Chiriboga, founding team member of Nexl, a legal CRM platform built specifically for law firms. Ben…

  34. Episode 154- The Latest Research from the NALP Foundation and What it Means for Your Career

    · 41 min · Episode 154

    In this episode, Steve speaks with the administrative team at the NALP Foundation, a nonprofit research organization focused on the advancement of the legal profession. They explore recent data on associate hiring,…

  35. Episode 153- The Role of Job Boards in Career Exploration

    · 6:46 · Episode 153

    In this episode, I take another break from interviewing guests to share some quick thoughts on how to use job boards effectively in your job search. While I spend a lot of time encouraging clients to make networking…

  36. Episode 152: Practical Applications for AI in Your Law Practice with Jonathan White

    · 41 min · Episode 152

    In this episode, Steve Seckler speaks with Jonathan White, a Boston-based trusts and estates attorney and a self-described AI enthusiast. Jonathan shares practical insights into how he is using artificial intelligence…

  37. Episode 151-Why I Wrote Think Like a Lawyer, Act Like an Entrepreneur

    · 5:14 · Episode 151

    In this episode, I'm taking a break from interviewing guests to share some exciting news—my new book, Think Like a Lawyer, Act Like an Entrepreneur, is being published by the American Bar Association in late March! If…

  38. Episode 150-Growing Your Law Firm with Dominic Grew

    · 31 min · Episode 150

    In this episode, business coach Dominic Grew returns to discuss how solo and small firm lawyers can strategically grow their practices without overextending themselves. Dominic shares practical insights on leveraging…

  39. Episode 149—Turning Business Conversations into Business—a Role-Play with Gary Johnson

    · 49 min · Episode 149

    In this episode, host Stephen Seckler welcomes back Gary Johnson, president of J2 Marketing Consultants, for a dynamic session of role-playing client intakes. They explore how lawyers can turn initial business…

  40. Episode 148-Strategic Marketing for Law Firms with Carrie Flynn

    · 36 min · Episode 148

    In this episode, host Stephen Seckler sits down with Carrie Flynn, a fractional CMO and growth marketing consultant, to explore the evolving landscape of marketing for lawyers and law firms. Carrie brings over eight…

  41. Episode 147-Your Legal Career: If It's Broke, Fix It or Move On?

    · 36 min · Episode 147

    In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, host Stephen Seckler is joined by Susanne Aronowitz, a senior consultant with Beard Strategies and a Professional Certified Coach, to discuss career transitions and job…

  42. Episode 146-Nancy Capistran on Using Peer Advisory Groups and Individual Coaching to Build Leadership Skills

    · 35 min · Episode 146

    In this episode of the Counsel to Counsel podcast, host Stephen Seckler engages with Nancy Capistran, founder of Capistran Leadership and a Vistage chair, to delve into the transformative impact of peer advisory groups…

  43. Episode 145-"Earley" Mistakes to Avoid When Starting Your Own Law Practice

    · 35 min · Episode 145

    Starting your own law practice is a bold and rewarding move, but it comes with its share of challenges. In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, host Stephen Seckler sits down with Chris Earley, a Massachusetts-based…

  44. Episode 144-Turning Business Contacts into Business: Lessons From the 2024 Election

    · 8:52 · Episode 144

    In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, host Stephen Seckler shares insights from his recent experiences volunteering during the 2024 election. Drawing lessons from the power of listening in political campaigns, Steve…

  45. Episode 143-The Longevity Revolution with Judith Kurnick

    · 40 min · Episode 143

    In this episode Steve Seckler speaks with Judith Kurnick, an executive transition coach who specializes in guiding late-career lawyers, executives, and business owners as they navigate career transitions. Judith delves…

  46. Episode 142-Winning in Your Own Court with Dena Lefkowitz

    · 34 min · Episode 142

    In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, host Stephen Seckler welcomes Dena Lefkowitz, a professional coach and former practicing attorney who helps lawyers navigate the complexities of career development, marketing, and…

  47. Episode 141-Co-Mediation with Jeff Soilson, Esq. and Ashleigh Louis Ph.D.

    · 46 min · Episode 141

    In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, I am joined by Jeffrey Soilson, Esq. and Ashleigh Louis, Ph.D., founders of Quantum ADR, an innovative co-mediation practice. Quantum ADR takes an interdisciplinary approach to…

  48. Episode 140- Naïs Mouret on Emotional Intelligence, Physical Well-being, and the Practice of Law

    · 32 min · Episode 140

    In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, host Steve Seckler interviews Naïs Mouret, a global leadership advisor and certified emotional intelligence consultant. Naïs shares insights on the critical role of emotional…

  49. Episode 139-Conquering Perfectionism in the Practice of Law with Jordana Confino

    · 43 min · Episode 139

    In this episode of the Counsel to Counsel podcast, host Stephen Seckler is joined by Jordana Confino, a certified professional coach and founder of JC Coaching & Consulting. Together, they explore the pervasive issue…

  50. Episode 138-Thought Leadership and Careers in Business Law with Lana Manganiello

    · 31 min · Episode 138

    In this episode Stephen Seckler speaks with Lana Manganiello, author of the new book Careers in Business Law: Forging Your Path to Success (American Bar Association 2024). Lana shares insights from her extensive…

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