The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland

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1. TMT:63 Fraser T. Smith On Producing Adele & Keeping Music Human

   5 Oct 2025 · 1 h 04 min

   Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by legendary producer, Fraser T Smith. With credits ranging from Adele’s “Set Fire to the Rain” to Stormzy’s “Gang Signs & Prayer”, as well as his own project,…

2. TMT:62 Josh Mateer On SoundOn’s A&R Revolution

   28 Sep 2025 · 1 h 02 min

   Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Josh Mateer, Head of A&R for Europe, Middle East and Africa at SoundOn, TikTok’s artist and label services platform. From his teenage days playing in punk…

3. TMT:61 Matt Riley On CMAT’s Big Breakthrough & What’s Next For AWAL

   21 Sep 2025 · 1 h 00 min

   Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Matt Riley, the newly appointed president of AWAL UK. With a background that spans from DJing and promoting club nights, to cutting his teeth at Hospital…

4. TMT:60 Jo Charrington on Discovering Sam Smith & Breaking Olivia Dean

   14 Sep 2025 · 57 min

   Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with a legend in the industry, Jo Charrington, president of Capitol Records. With a career spanning over three decades at labels including London, Virgin, BMG,…

5. TMT:59 Jack Garratt on Artists’ Struggles & The Lessons The Music Industry Needs To Learn

   7 Sep 2025 · 1 h 04 min

   Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with visionary British artist Jack Garratt. Jack first rose to prominence in 2016 after winning both the BBC Sound Of… poll and the BRIT’s Critic’s Choice Award,…

6. TMT:58 Mark Orr On Taking The K’s To No.1 & Building A Modern Indie Success Story

   31 Aug 2025 · 1 h 01 min

   Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Mark Orr, founder of LAB Records. Starting the company while still at university and promoting DIY shows, Mark has grown LAB to hundreds of releases, while…

7. TMT:57 Madeleine O’Gorman on Pendulum’s Big Comeback & Working With The Legendary Michael Gudinski

   24 Aug 2025 · 1 h 02 min

   Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Madeleine O’Gorman, General Manager for Mushroom Music Uk & Europe. Having grown up in Australia’s thriving independent scene before relocating to London,…

8. TMT:56 David Martin On Saving Grassroots Music & Why The Fight For Streaming Reform Must Continue

   10 Aug 2025 · 1 h 02 min

   Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by David Martin, CEO of the Featured Artist’s Coalition (FAC). As a leading voice in championing fairness, transparency, and sustainability in the music industry,…

9. TMT:55 Alistair Norbury On Taking Kylie And Rick Astley To New Heights, Plus Catalogue Acquisitions Done Right

   3 Aug 2025 · 1 h 04 min

   Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alistair Norbury, President of UK, Europe and Asia-Pacific at BMG. Together, they explore how one of the world’s biggest music companies is rethinking deals,…

10. TMT:54 Grace Meadows On How To Promote Positive Mental Health in the Music Industry

    27 Jul 2025 · 57 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Grace Meadows, Head of Music Minds Matter, the mental health charity supporting everyone who works in the music industry. From her roots as a music therapist…

11. TMT:53 Tom Connaughton on Indie Distribution’s Big Moment & How Spotify Changed The Music World

    20 Jul 2025 · 1 h 03 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Tom Connaughton, former UK & Ireland MD at Spotify, now Partner and Senior Advisor at Canvas Music Distribution. From pirate radio and Sony Music, to MySpace,…

12. TMT:52 Cliff Fluet On The Future Of AI & Why The Music Biz Must Embrace Technology

    13 Jul 2025 · 1 h 00 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Cliff Fluet, partner at Lewis Silkin, MD of Eleven Advisory, and now Chair of Music Technology UK. Cliff has spent decades helping artists, managers, rights…

13. TMT:51 David Massey On Bringing Oasis To America & The Future Of Major Labels

    6 Jul 2025 · 1 h 02 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by legendary label exec, David Massey, whose career has spanned over 40 years at labels such as Epic, Sony, Mercury, Island, and most recently Arista Records.…

14. TMT:50 Jim King on Turning BST Hyde Park Into A Blockbuster Event and The Secrets Of Festival Success In 2025

    29 Jun 2025 · 1 h 07 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week we celebrate our 50th episode and Mark is joined by Jim King, CEO of AEG Europe’s Festival Division. Jim is the driving force behind some of the UK’s biggest live music events,…

15. TMT:49 Alison Howe on Running Glastonbury’s Epic TV Coverage & Curating Later's Line-Ups

    22 Jun 2025 · 1 h 05 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alison Howe, Executive Producer of Music at BBC Studios, and the driving force behind the BBC’s epic Glastonbury TV coverage. With over 30 years at the BBC and…

16. TMT:48 Geoff Ellis On Promoting Oasis & Dominating The Scottish Live Industry

    15 Jun 2025 · 1 h 03 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Geoff Ellis, CEO of DF Concerts, the Scottish live music powerhouse behind TRNSMT Festival, King Tut’s Wah Wah Hut, and countless shows across Scotland.…

17. TMT:47 Johan Lagerlof On Being The Founding Investor in Abba Voyage And Buying The Avicii Catalogue

    8 Jun 2025 · 1 h 02 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Johan Lagerlof, Managing Partner of Pophouse Entertainment, the company with catalogue investments in artists like KISS, Avicii and Swedish House Mafia, the…

18. TMT:46 Kim Frankiewicz On Fighting for Songwriters and Hanging Out with Michael Hutchence

    1 Jun 2025 · 1 h 02 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Kim Frankiewicz, EVP Worldwide A&R at Concord Music Publishing, and a true veteran of the global business. From INXS and the Aussie pub circuit, to signing…

19. TMT:45 Jamie Oborne On Managing The 1975 & Keeping The Spirit of Independence Alive

    25 May 2025 · 1 h 00 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Jamie Oborne, founder of Dirty Hit Records and All On Red Management, and the guiding force behind The 1975, Bleachers, The Japanese House, and more. Jamie…

20. TMT:44 Jin Jin On Writing Smash Hits & How Songwriter Contracts Need To Change

    18 May 2025 · 52 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down and chats with multi-platinum UK songwriter and creative entrepreneur, Jin Jin. With hits for Jess Glynne, Raye, Jax Jones, David Guetta, Becky Hill, Sabrina…

21. TMT:43 Roberto Neri On The 70th Ivor Novello Awards & What Songwriters Need to Succeed

    11 May 2025 · 54 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! Mark is joined at Dolby Labs in Soho by Roberto Neri, CEO of The Ivors Academy. On top of Roberto’s vast career spanning PRS, Bug Music, Downtown, Believe and Utopia, they also chat about…

22. TMT:42 Jon Collins on How The Grassroots Levy Will Reshape The Live Biz, Plus The Big Misunderstanding Over Dynamic Pricing

    4 May 2025 · 1 h 05 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined live by Jon Collins, CEO of LIVE (Live music Industry Venues & Entertainment) and chair of the Liverpool City Region Music Board, at the UK Music Academic…

23. TMT:41 Tony Harlow on How to Break More UK Superstars & The Future For Major Labels

    27 Apr 2025 · 1 h 08 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Tony Harlow, CEO of Warner Music UK, to explore his career journey from jazz records to the boardroom, and what it means to lead a major record label in the era…

24. TMT:40 Robert Horsfall & Sonia Diwan On AI's Big Legal Challenge and the Battle for Better Artist Contracts

    13 Apr 2025 · 1 h 10 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Robert Horsfall and Sonia Diwan, founding partners of Sound Advice. As leaders of one of the UK’s most respected law firms for artists, songwriters, and…

25. TMT:39 Craig Jennings on Breaking Bring Me The Horizon & Why Rock Is Still a Big Noise in 2025

    6 Apr 2025 · 1 h 02 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with one of the most respected managers in rock and metal, Craig Jennings, CEO of Raw Power Management. Craig shares his stories of shaping the careers of some of…

26. TMT:38 Megan Ogleby-Page on Running Record Store Day & How Vinyl Came Back From The Dead

    30 Mar 2025 · 57 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Megan Ogleby-Page, Head of Operations at ERA and key figure behind Record Store Day UK. Megan shares her insights on the evolution of physical music retail,…

27. TMT:37 Louis Posen On What it Means to be Punk and founding Hopeless Records

    24 Mar 2025 · 56 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by legendary punk rock executive, Louis Posen, founder of Hopeless Records. This week, Mark catches up with Louis in Los Angeles during Musexpo week to reflect on…

28. TMT:36 Nick Stewart on Why Artists Struggle To Make Streaming Pay, Signing U2 and Not Signing Joy Division

    17 Mar 2025 · 59 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by a 30 year veteran of the music industry, The Colonel, Nick Stewart. During their conversation they discuss the latest in the industry, including the financial…

29. TMT:35 Dr Charisse Beaumont on the Music Industry’s On-Going Diversity Problem and Why The Biz Needs to Take a Stand Against Trump’s DEI Rollback

    10 Mar 2025 · 54 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Dr Charisse Beaumont, CEO of Black Lives In Music. Discussing one of the biggest issues in the music industry, Charisse explains the need for everyone to step…

30. TMT:34 Kate Nash on Why OnlyFans Pays Better than Spotify, Getting F*cked Over, & the Constant Fight for Change in the Industry

    3 Mar 2025 · 56 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by singer-songwriter Kate Nash. Digging into the current state of the music industry, Kate discusses everything from the harsh realities of touring costs, why she…

31. TMT:33 Steve Tannett on Marshall’s Rock Revolution & What He Learned from REM & Miles Copeland

    24 Feb 2025 · 53 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Steve Tannett, Director of Platforms at Marshall Group. From his punk roots to a career spanning multiple sides of the music industry, Steve looks back over…

32. TMT:32 Kwame Kwaten on The Future of Artist Management, and Working With Legends (Michael Jackson, Prince & Mick Jagger)

    17 Feb 2025 · 57 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! In this episode, Mark is joined by manager, record producer and director of Ferocious Talent, Kwame Kwaten. As well as catching up on the latest in the industry, including the Kanye…

33. TMT:31 Peter Leathem on PPL’s Blockbuster Revenues, A Transformative JV with PRS and Keeping Madonna's ‘Sex’ Book Under Wraps

    10 Feb 2025 · 1 h 01 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Peter Leathem, CEO of PPL. As well as catching up on the week’s news, including Grammy highlights and mental health provisions from labels, Peter shares his…

34. TMT:30 Sammy Andrews on the Music Industry’s Tech Revolution, and Her Most Successful Campaigns (The Prodigy, Annie Lennox & More)

    3 Feb 2025 · 1 h 01 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by the CEO of Deviate Digital, Sammy Andrews. Catching up at Tileyard Studios, the conversation covers the latest news on streaming services, the future of…

35. TMT:29 Luke Pritchard of The Kooks on the TikTok Ban, Better Care for Young Artists, Connecting with a New Generation of Fans, and Being Naked In Front of Mick Jagger

    27 Jan 2025 · 57 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark catches up with the lead singer of The Kooks, Luke Pritchard. Throughout their chat, the pair discuss the latest in the music industry, including the TikTok ban and…

36. TMT:28 Ruth Barlow (LIVE at ESNS) on Indie Labels Battling the Majors for Market Share, the Industry Response to the LA Fires, Partying with Adele and Risking Arrest Over Radiohead’s ‘Guerrilla’ Gig

    20 Jan 2025 · 1 h 01 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! In this special live episode at this year's ESNS conference in Groningen, Mark is joined by Ruth Barlow from Beggars and AIM. Ruth shares stories from her journey in the music industry,…

37. TMT:27 Andy Saunders on Creation Records’ Golden Years with Alan McGee, the Best PR Strategy for Crisis Management, and Working with Tony Blair and Alistair Campbell on Labour’s ‘97 Election Campaign

    13 Jan 2025 · 1 h 07 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench. In the first episode of 2025, Mark is joined by Andy Saunders, legendary PR and founder of Velocity Communications. Digging into the latest industry news, Andy shares his thoughts on the…

38. TMT:26 Julie Weir on the State of Rock Music, Signing Bring Me The Horizon, Rebooting Music For Nations, and How British Rock can Fight Back Against US Domination

    16 Dec 2024 · 57 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Julie Weir, Director of Sony’s Music For Nations. Catching up at Sony HQ, Mark & Julie’s conversation digs into the behind the scenes of the rock &…

39. TMT:25 Steve Homer on Why Concert Tickets Are So Expensive, the New Grassroots Levy, His Views on Dynamic Pricing, & Watching Nirvana on Top Of The Pops with Kurt Cobain

    9 Dec 2024 · 1 h 00 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Steve Homer, CEO of AEG Presents. Throughout the conversation, Steve shares his insights on hot topics like the grassroots ticket levy, festival…

40. TMT:24 Miranda Sawyer on Britpop beyond Blur Vs Oasis, the Continued Importance of Music Journalism, the Power of Kate Nash’s Bum and the Greatness of British Pop Music As Export

    2 Dec 2024 · 59 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by author, journalist and fellow podcaster, Miranda Sawyer. Exploring themes from her new book, Uncommon People: Britpop and Beyond in 20 Songs, the…

41. TMT:23 Mark Davyd on How the Arena Ticket Levy Will Work, the ‘Cultural Disaster’ of Losing Grassroots Venues, Booking Oasis on Their Debut Tour, and Taking on Simon Cowell

    25 Nov 2024 · 1 h 06 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Mark Davyd, CEO and founder of Music Venue Trust. Catching up shortly after his front-page appearance with Katy Perry, the conversation highlights the…

42. TMT:22 Shabs Jobanputra on How His Refugee Background Influenced His Career, Breaking Everyone from So Solid Crew to Baby Shark, US Labels Poaching UK Artists, and Walking Away from Signing Amy

    18 Nov 2024 · 1 h 03 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Shabs Jobanputra, founder and president of Relentless Records. Catching up at Sony HQ, Shabs shares his journey into the music industry, reflecting on…

43. TMT:21 Lucas Keller on the UK’s Producer and Writer Talent, What the Majors are Not Doing for Songwriters, Being Travis Kelce’s Agents and Why A&R’s Shouldn’t Have Side Hustles

    11 Nov 2024 · 1 h 04 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Lucas Keller, founder and president of Milk & Honey Management. Catching up after two nights of industry awards and the morning after the U.S. election,…

44. TMT:20 Robert Swerdlow on Protecting Artists, The Digital Entertainment Business Vs The Music Industry, ‘The Algorithm of The Soul’, Managing The La’s, Michael Kiwanuka, and Little Simz, and Getting

    4 Nov 2024 · 1 h 01 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Robert Swerdlow, of Starwood Management. With over 25 years of management experience, Robert discusses the challenges artists face today and his role in…

45. TMT:19 Gee Davy on the AI Licensing Battle, UMG Buying PIAS, TikTok vs Merlin, and the Latest from the Streaming Remuneration Group

    28 Oct 2024 · 1 h 05 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by AIM interim-CEO, Gee Davy. Digging into the latest industry news, Gee shares her insights on the Merlin-TikTok licensing developments and GEMA's…

46. TMT:18 Caroline Elleray and Mark Gale on Signing Coldplay, Using Data for A&R, the Rise of UK Songwriters, and Almost Managing Oasis

    20 Oct 2024 · 56 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by two of the most influential music publishing execs of the last 30 years, Caroline Elleray and Mark Gale, co-founders of Second Songs. Caroline and Mark…

47. TMT:17 Karen Emanuel, Women in Music Awards Businesswoman of the Year, on the Future of Vinyl, Innovation in Music Formats, and being a Female Business Owner in the '90s

    13 Oct 2024 · 59 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Karen Emanuel, CEO and founder of Key Production Group, & recent winner of Businesswoman of the Year at the Women in Music Awards. As well as covering…

48. TMT:16 Mike Smith on the Decline of Major Label A&R, Publishing vs Record Labels, Signing Blur, and Trying to Leave the Industry

    6 Oct 2024 · 1 h 14 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by A&R legend Mike Smith. Mike is one of the industry’s true A&R legends, who has built an enviable reputation across MCA, EMI, Columbia, Mercury, Virgin…

49. TMT:15 Jo Twist & Sophie Jones on David Joseph leaving Universal, Updates from the Streaming Creator Remuneration Group, Why British Artists are Struggling to Break Internationally & Partying at the

    29 Sep 2024 · 1 h 04 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by BPI CEO Jo Twist and CSO Sophie Jones. After a rainy few days in Liverpool at the Labour Party Conference and the BPI Northern Music Showcase, Jo and…

50. TMT:14 Olivia Hobbs on Going Viral on TikTok, Artist Embarrassment around Social Media, Neurodiversity in music, and Not Exploiting Superfans

    22 Sep 2024 · 54 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Olivia Hobbs, founder of marketing agency Blackstar. Olivia breaks down the success of digital marketing in today’s genre-agnostic music industry,…