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The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland

The Money Trench

113 episodes

The Money Trench (TMT) is The Music Industry Podcast from presenter Mark Sutherland and exec producer Mike Walsh, produced by Tape Notes and supported by Sound On and Tixel. Each Monday, we will dissect the biggest music industry news stories of the previous week, in the company of one of the industry’s most influential executives. Followed by a deep dive into that exec’s career in music, including their thoughts on where we’re at and where we’re heading. Now, TMT is here to look at all sides of the music business and celebrate the most exciting industry on the planet. Don’t start your music week without it…

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  1. TMT:112 Emily Braham On Discovering & Breaking Olivia Dean

    · 59 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Emily Braham, Founder of Yo&Co, Co-Founder of fivethree, and manager of Olivia Dean. Recorded live in Newcastle at the Generator Live Conference as part of the…

  2. TMT:111 Ammo Talwar On Transforming The Biz’s Diversity Strategy & Championing Birmingham

    · 1 h 02 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Ammo Talwar, founder of Punch Records and Parlay Records. As a Birmingham-based exec and a leading advocate for cultural diversity, Ammo is here to give his…

  3. TMT:110 Molly Neuman On Her Journey From Punk Rock To The Board Room

    · 1 h 04 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is in Manchester at Beyond The Music, and he is joined by Molly Neuman, President of CD Baby. At the head of one of the world’s largest DIY distribution platforms, Molly…

  4. TMT:109 James Sandom On The Changing Face Of Modern Management

    · 1 h 02 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by James Sandom, founder of Red Light Management UK. After nearly 30 years at the forefront of artist management, James is here to share his expertise on what…

  5. TMT:108 Sarah Pearson & Oli Wilson On How Beyond The Music Will Change The Music Biz

    · 1 h 05 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Sarah Pearson and Oli Wilson of Beyond the Music. Ahead of Beyond the Music in Media City, Salford, Sarah and Oli share their vision for decentralising the…

  6. TMT:107 Samantha Moy & Cam Pia On Running BBC Radio 6 Music

    · 1 h 04 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Samantha Moy and Cam Pia, Head and Music Editor of BBC Radio 6 Music. With 6 Music’s listening figures buoyant, Samantha and Cam discuss the new Indie Forever…

  7. TMT:106 Martin Goldschmidt On 40 Years Of Cooking Vinyl

    · 1 h 02 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Martin Goldschmidt, founder of Cooking Vinyl. Having been at the head of the physical-first label for 40 years, Martin shares how he found a sweet spot working…

  8. TMT:105 Alex Bruford On Fixing Live’s Economics

    · 59 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alex Bruford, Agent and Co-Founder of ROAM. After starting his career as a drummer and tour-managing around the world, Alex has transitioned to the booking…

  9. TMT:104 Obi Asika on Bringing African Talent to the World

    · 1 h 02 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week Mark is joined by Obi Asika, founder of The Malachite Group and the newly launched TMG Talent Agency. Reflecting on a career spent bringing African talent to global stages, Obi…

  10. TMT:103 Kat Kennedy & Tim Parry On 40 Years Of Big Life

    · 1 h 05 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Kat Kennedy and Tim Parry of Big Life. Over 40 years as a management and publishing powerhouse, Big Life has worked with defining acts such as The Verve, Badly…

  11. TMT:102 Sarah Slater On Running Ticketmaster UK & The Battle Against Touts

    · 1 h 05 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Sarah Slater, Managing Director at Ticketmaster UK. Leading the UK division of the world's biggest ticketing distributor, Sarah is the perfect person to give…

  12. TMT:101 Chris Wright On Co-Founding Chrysalis & Building The BRIT Awards

    · 1 h 07 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Chris Wright, Co-Founder of the iconic Chrysalis empire. Chris has helped break generation defining talent across multiple eras, including Ten Years After,…

  13. TMT:100 Chris Dempsey On Take That’s Record-Breaking Touring Triumphs

    · 1 h 01 min

    For the 100th time, welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Chris Dempsey, founder of Corduroy Artists and manager of Take That. Having climbed the ranks at Jeepster and Columbia, Chris now runs…

  14. TMT:99 Jeremy Marsh & Marc Marot On The New Landscape For Labels

    · 1 h 10 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Jeremy Marsh and Marc Marot, COO and CCO of Breaking Wave Group. Jeremy and Marc are part of an ambitious new venture in the music industry - Breaking Wave -…

  15. TMT:98 Peter Rudge On The Rolling Stones & 50 Years In Live Music

    · 1 h 03 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Peter Rudge, former label exec, tour manager and artist manager. Having worked with rock royalty such as The Who and The Rolling Stones, Peter has a unique…

  16. TMT:97 Tim Vigon On Managing The Streets & The Importance Of Band Chemistry

    · 1 h 06 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by top artist manager Tim Vigon of TV Management/ThreeSixZero. After working as a top PR for many famous bands including The Verve, Tim transitioned into…

  17. TMT:96 Pat Carr on Why Marketing Remains Essential To the Music Biz

    · 1 h 02 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Pat Carr, legendary marketing and management executive, and founder of the Remote Control Agency. Through her 40 year career, Pat has marketed many iconic acts…

  18. TMT:95 Lucy Noble On The British Airways Arc & The Opportunity For Mid-Sized Venues

    · 58 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Lucy Noble, SVP of UK Venues for AEG Presents. Having studied at RCM and spent 20 years working at the Royal Albert Hall, Lucy is an expert in anything and…

  19. TMT:94 John Giddings On 50 Years Working On Live Music’s Frontline

    · 1 h 01 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by John Giddings of Solo Music Agency and the Isle of Wight Festival. Best known for transforming the Isle of Wight Festival into one of the UK's biggest music…

  20. TMT:93 Emma Banks On Life As A Super-Agent

    · 1 h 05 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Co-Head of Global Touring at CAA, Emma Banks. As a true legend of the live industry, Emma works with huge artists ranging from Katy Perry and Lorde to the Red…

  21. TMT:92 Michael Adex On Managing Aitch & Building The NQ Empire

    · 1 h 02 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, recorded live at the inaugural Tixel x TMT Music Industry Retreat at beautiful Cowdray House in West Sussex, in front of an audience of 15 industry leaders from management…

  22. TMT:91 Guy Moot on The Art Of Publishing A&R & The Importance Of Songs & Songwriters

    · 1 h 03 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Guy Moot, Co-Chair and CEO of Warner Chappell Music. Having enjoyed triumphant stints at EMI and Sony, Guy is one of the most successful music publishers of…

  23. TMT:90 Dan Chalmers on How The Music Biz Learned To Love YouTube

    · 1 h 02 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Dan Chalmers, Managing Director at YouTube Music EMEA. Having worked in the major label system for 20 years with a stellar career at Warner before joining…

  24. TMT:89 Martin Talbot On Why The Charts Still Matter

    · 1 h 01 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by former CEO of the Official Charts Company, Martin Talbot. After nearly 2 decades at the helm of the OCC, Martin is here to share exactly how the charts work,…

  25. TMT:88 YolanDa Brown LIVE On Why UK Music Is Back In The Big Time

    · 1 h 04 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by chair of the BPI, YolanDa Brown, live at the BPI’s In Tune With Tomorrow summit as part of the Sound City+ conference in Liverpool. As a MOBO-winning artist,…

  26. TMT:87 Miles Leonard on Helping Coldplay To The Top & Getting Into The Arena Business

    · 1 h 04 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by one of the most successful music executives in the game, Miles Leonard. Having held senior roles across a number of major labels, working with acts such as The…

  27. TMT:86 Alastair Webber On Fair Deals For Songwriters

    · 1 h 02 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alastair Webber, Co-Founder and CEO of The Other Songs. Having started at Island Records, Alastair and his brother, Billy, have joined forces at The Other…

  28. TMT:85 Kamille On Being A Top Hitmaker & Why Songwriters Still Need More Support

    · 59 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by legendary songwriter and producer, Kamille. From Little Mix to Clean Bandit, Kamille has played an integral role in some of the biggest songs ever! Kamille…

  29. TMT:84 Frank Turner On Making Touring Work For Grassroots Artists & Venues

    · 1 h 02 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Frank Turner, one of the UK’s most successful folk-punk artists. Having started out in punk band Million Dead before becoming a solo artist, Frank has played…

  30. TMT:83 Jeremy Lascelles On Building A Game-Changing Indie Music Company

    · 1 h 01 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Jeremy Lascelles, Co-founder and CEO of Blue Raincoat Music. Having been a manager, tour manager, and a key figure at renowned indie companies Virgin and…

  31. TMT:82 Catherine Marks On The Threat To UK Studios & Recording Olivia Rodrigo In A Day

    · 58 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by legendary producer and mix engineer, Catherine Marks. Being a two-time MPG Producer of the Year winner, and having worked with everyone from Wolf Alice to…

  32. TMT:81 Adam Harris & Callum Read On The Return Of Guitar Music

    · 1 h 03 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Adam Harris and Callum Read, Co-Founders of Touchdown MGMT, and record label Happy Artist. Having worked with bands such as The Snuts, The Rooks, and Hunny…

  33. TMT:80 Chris Price On How To Get On The BBC Radio 1 Playlist

    · 1 h 04 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Chris Price, Head of Music for BBC Radio 1 and 1Xtra. Approaching his 10 year anniversary in the role, Chris reflects on his part in shaping one of the biggest…

  34. TMT:79 Tommas Arnby On Mananging Yungblud & Why Rock Is Finally Back

    · 1 h 01 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Tommas Arnby, founder of Locomotion and co-founder/CEO of Special Projects Music. Having guided YUNGBLUD from the very start all the way to a recent Grammy…

  35. TMT:78 Liz Goodwin On The Secrets Of Modern Music Marketing

    · 1 h 03 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Liz Goodwin, a music industry marketing and strategy expert whose career spans the likes of Polydor, Glassnote and most recently Atlantic Records. Liz shares…

  36. TMT:77 Sybil Bell On Independent Venue Week & Why Venues Matter More Than Ever

    · 1 h 02 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Sybil Bell, founder of Independent Venue Week. For more than a decade Sybil has helped shine a spotlight on the venues that form the foundations of the entire…

  37. TMT:76 Aly Gillani On Why Bandcamp Is Music Retail With A Difference & Why AI Is Banned On The Platform

    · 1 h 06 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Aly Gillani, Artist & Label Relations Lead at Bandcamp and Director of First Word Records. From running his own independent record label, to asking for (and…

  38. TMT:75 Sumit Bothra On What Artist Management Really Looks Like in 2026

    · 1 h 04 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Sumit Bothra, founder and CEO of SB3 Artist Management, as well as manager of PJ Harvey. With a career spanning over 20 years across major labels, independent…

  39. TMT:74 Alex Hannaby On The Unstoppable Rise Of Country Music Around The World

    · 1 h 02 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alex Hannaby, VP of International Marketing & Operations at Big Machine, as well as head of the label’s UK business. From launching Big Machine UK ten years…

  40. TMT:73 Ben Mortimer On How To Break New Artists & The Role Of Majors in 2026

    · 1 h 03 min

    Happy new year from The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Ben Mortimer, President of Polydor Label Group. From starting out as a journalist, to now being in charge of one of the worlds biggest labels, Ben…

  41. TMT: Biggest Music Industry Stories Of 2025

    · 41 min

    Merry Christmas from The Money Trench! This week, we’re bringing you a very special compilation episode! Sit back, relax, and enjoy some of the key moments from our 2025 episodes. Mark will guide you through the…

  42. TMT:72 Zena White On Building The World’s Coolest Indie Label

    · 1 h 04 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Zena White, COO of Partisan Records and Chair of WIN. From working her way up through live music, management, and label services, Zena is now COO of one of the…

  43. TMT:71 Paul Lennon On Negotiating The Music Industry’s Big Deals

    · 58 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Paul Lennon, one of the UK’s top music lawyers and consultant at Moore SGD Law. From working as in-house lawyer at labels, to becoming the go-to lawyer during…

  44. TMT:70 Alexi Cory-Smith On The Catalogue Sales Boom

    · 1 h 01 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alexi Cory-Smith, lawyer, publishing/label executive, and now CEO and founder of Bella Figura. Alexi is one of the most respected figures in the rights and…

  45. TMT:69 Cam Blackwood Live On The Catalogue Sales Revolution

    · 57 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined for a special live episode at the Resonate Music Conference in Glasgow by Cam Blackwood, one of Scotland’s most successful producers. Having worked with George…

  46. TMT:68 Craig Logan On Being a Music Entrepreneur

    · 1 h 03 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Craig Logan, a manager and executive whose career spans every corner of the industry. From his teenage years in Bros, to senior leadership roles at EMI and…

  47. TMT:67 Nadia Khan On Powering Change In The Music Industry

    · 1 h 00 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Nadia Khan, artist manager and founder of Women in CTRL. From championing gender equality across the music industry to breaking artists including Lethal…

  48. TMT:66 The Charlatans Frontman Tim Burgess On Being A Musicians’ Champion

    · 51 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark catches up with Tim Burgess, frontman of The Charlatans. As The Charlatans prepare to release We Are Love, their first album in eight years, Tim reflects on 35 years with…

  49. TMT:65 Henry Semmence & Simon Wills On Building A Label Services Giant & Surviving Utopia

    · 1 h 02 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Henry Semmence and Simon Wills, co-managing directors of Absolute Label Services. As pioneers of the label services model that transformed the modern business,…

  50. TMT:64 Rich Castillo On Indie Labels’ Big A&R Opportunity

    · 1 h 03 min

    Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Rich Castillo, President of LionBear Music Group and one of the UK’s most influential A&R executives of the past two decades. From his beginnings as a boy band…

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