THE RUNNING EFFECT PODCAST
Dominic Schlueter
300 episodes
The Running Effect tells the best stories in running—and turns them into insight, inspiration, and tools to help competitive runners become greater. Every week, host Dominic Schlueter sits down with the fastest, smartest, and most inspiring people in the sport—from Olympic medalists to breakthrough athletes—to unpack the stories, lessons, and mindset behind elite performance. Whether you’re chasing a personal best or looking to understand how greatness is built, The Running Effect will make you a deeper fan of the sport—and a better runner.
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Fitter at 41 Than at 20: How Jeea Founder Trevor Wright Went From Hating Every Mile to Trail Running, Spartan Beasts, and a 50-Pound Drop
https://jeearecovery.com Trevor Wright swore off running in seventh grade. Recorded in Columbus, this conversation traces how a kid who dreaded his weekly mile-and-a-half PE “fun run” now runs before breakfast by…
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Stanford Runner to Tour de France Team in 12 Months: How Gavin Sherry Turned 3 Stress Fractures Into a Pro Cycling Career
https://launch.jeearecovery.com Gavin Sherry found his future on a borrowed bike. A year ago, the former Conard High School star was still on Stanford’s cross country roster, his college career swallowed by a femoral…
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Two US 1500m Titles and Zero Respect: Nathan Green Fires Back at the Comment Section, Calls for Lifetime Doping Bans, and Explains Why He Keeps a Diamond League Loss Framed on His Wall
Nathan Green came to talk, and he didn’t hold back. The 23-year-old Adidas miler swept both U.S. 1,500m titles in 2026, and he joined Dominic to defend those wins against the couch warriors who call them too slow to…
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Klaudia Kazimierska Breaks Down Her Dominant Rookie Season Under Jerry Schumacher, the Training She Keeps Secret, and a 3:54 Diamond League Win
Klaudia Kazimierska didn't just finish 2026. She owned it.In her first season under Jerry Schumacher, the Polish middle-distance star closed with three straight wins: the Diamond League Final in Brussels in a…
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Alex Ostberg: Who Actually Needs Electrolytes, Why Fitness Beats Every Other Health Marker, and What Coaching a World Champion Taught Him About Race Plans
Salt might be the most overhyped thing in your running bag. Alex Ostberg is back from Chicago, where Charles Hicks became the No. 3 American all time on a record-eligible course, for his monthly breakdown of the last…
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Alex Gibby on Taking Harvard From 1 Point at the Ivy League Championships to Two NCAA Champions and What Separates Good Runners From Great Ones
Nobody builds a distance program at Harvard. Alex Gibby did it twice over Alex arrived at Harvard in 2017 and inherited a program that had almost never made nationals, and didn't have a single athlete setting a PR…
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Natasza Dudek, America's No. 1 High School Girl, on Sweeping NXN and Brooks XC, 35-Mile Weeks, and Growing Up With a National Champion Sister
Natasza Dudek only wanted a PR. She got history instead. Now a junior at Ann Arbor Pioneer and the reigning Gatorade National Girls Cross Country Player of the Year, Natasza joins Dominic midway through her 2026…
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The Scientist Who Helped Eliud Kipchoge Break 2 Hours: Dr. Andy Jones on the Limits of Human Performance and Possibility
The woman who breaks four minutes in the mile has probably already been born. That's the opening claim from Professor Andy Jones, the Exeter physiologist behind Nike's Breaking2 project, and he gives her ten to…
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He Got Rejected by 217 Schools & Then Became Josh Kerr's Coach: Danny Mackey on the Road to the Mile World Record
After Josh Kerr's mile world record, Danny Mackey had 478 unread texts. He answered about 20 of them. The founding head coach of the Brooks Beasts Track Club joins Dominic at the end of the best season of his career.…
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Ranked 41st of 42 in the Northeast: Todd Witzleben on Bringing Back Manhattan University, a Program That Once Won an NCAA Title, and The Keys to Rebuild Any Program
Some coaches chase talent. Todd Witzleben builds it. When Witzleben took over at Manhattan University in June 2025, one regional ranking had the Jaspers 41st out of 42 teams in the Northeast, with six men on the cross…
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He Ran So Fast People Asked If He Was Doping: Vinny Mauri on the 138-Mile Weeks and the 30-Mile Long Runs Behind His Chicago Build
Vinny Mauri got drug tested at a Planet Fitness. Five months after his 2:05:54 marathon at Glass City made him the fastest marathon debutant in American history, the self-coached Ohioan returned to the show just days…
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Hit Singles, Take Walks: Sean McCafferty on the Boring Habits Behind 400 Straight Wins and How to Build a High School Cross Country Dynasty
Four hundred straight dual meet wins don't happen by accident. Sean McCafferty, entering his tenth year as head cross country coach at Christian Brothers Academy (CBA) in Lincroft, New Jersey, joins Dominic to unpack…
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Ethan Strand’s Breakout Rookie Year: Beating Jakob Ingebrigtsen and Cole Hocker, Inheriting a US Title From a Doper, and Why He Says Doping Makes You “Just a Bad Person”
Ethan Strand is a national champion who still believes he finished second. He found out Jonah Koech had been busted for doping in the middle of a treadmill run, when Parker Wolfe tapped him on the shoulder, and his…
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Nobody Is Watching. You Are: APL on Keeping Your Word to Yourself, Faith, and the Promise Behind Every Backyard Ultra Win
Aleksander Lingauer is stepping away from running. He says it out loud here for the first time. This one was recorded in person in Columbus, the fourth time he and Dominic have sat down together and the first time…
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No Watch, No Mileage Log, No Fear: How Marcelo Mantecon Trains and Thinks as America's No. 1 High School Runner
Marcelo Mantecon has spent his whole career as the young guy. Not anymore. The Belen Jesuit senior joins Dominic for the next episode of our Fleet Feet series leading into the Brooks Cross Country National…
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Behind Graham Blanks' 12:47 5K & 7:27 3K: 6:00min Easy Days, Training Alone & Racing Jakob Ingebrigtsen
Behind Graham Blanks' 12:47 5K & 7:27 3K: 6:00min Easy Days, Training Alone & Racing Jakob Ingebrigtsen Graham Blanks can tell you exactly what he did wrong in every race he ran this year. Monaco is the exception,…
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How to Build Muscle Without Losing Your Running Fitness: Dominic Fusco on the Training Week That Does Both, How to Fuel It, and Why Most Runners Lift Wrong
Two guys named Dom, one goal, two completely opposite ways of getting there. Dom Fusco returns to the show for the first time since March 2023, and this one isn't about his cardiac arrest—it's about the question…
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The New Standard: Inside the Next Generation of BYU Distance Running with Carter Cutting, Tayvon Kitchen and Isaac Hedengren
Dominic sits down with Carter Cutting, Isaac Hedengren and Tayvon Kitchen a day after the Cougars opened their season in Terre Haute. It starts as a debate—Jakob versus Kerr; whether Hawker belongs in that tier;…
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Alex Hutchinson, The World’s Leading Expert on the Limits of Human Performance, on the Mistimed Race That Started a 17-Second Breakthrough and Why Belief Beats Every Shoe You Can Buy
Alex Hutchinson ran his 1500-meter breakthrough because a timekeeper called the splits wrong. He’d been stuck at just over four minutes for three years. Then, in one indoor race, a mistimed clock told him he was…
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How A 16-High 5K Guy Had The Biggest Year In Trail Running: 145 Mile Weeks, 120g Of Carbs An Hour, Leading Western States For 62 Miles, And A CCC Podium | The Year Of Hans Troyer
Hans Troyer led Western States for 62 miles, DNF’d, and still calls the day a win. Eight weeks later he was on the CCC podium, which tells you most of what you need to know about how he metabolizes a bad race. Dominic…
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Nike Running Coach: You’re Quitting Too Late! The Injury Deadline Every Runner Should Set, How Much Protein You Actually Need, And The Championship Mistake That Wastes Your Whole Season | Alex Osberg
Nobody quits while they're ahead. Alex Ostberg is back for the guys’ monthly walk through of The Rundown, and this one runs from the foundations of the sport to the psychology of knowing when to walk away. They open…
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Rocky Hansen on His Final NCAA Cross Country Season: the Ego Check That Changed How He Races, the Margins Behind His Best Year, and Why the Happy Runner Is the Fast Runner
Rocky Hansen spent the offseason quietly begging Habtom Samuel not to turn pro.He lost to Samuel twice—the NCAA cross country final in November and the outdoor 5,000 in June—and his reaction to Samuel leaving wasn't a…
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From Foot Locker Champion At 14 To 2:20:57 And Four Olympic Trials Without A Team: Jordan (Hasay) Hogan On Salazar's Workouts, Developing A Championship Mindset, And What She'd Do Differently
Jordan Hasay Hogan never officially retired. She was the most hyped teenager in American distance running. She was a Foot Locker champion as a freshman, she acquired eight California state titles, was an Olympic…
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"I Just Decided I Wasn't Going to Be Scared Anymore": Colin Sahlman on the Year He Won 3 NCAA Titles, Signing With Nike, and the Chase for Olympic Gold
Colin Sahlman finished 151st at NCAA cross country as a freshman. Four years later he left college with three national titles.Colin returns to the show for the first time since high school, now a Nike athlete training…
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America's Best Marathoner On High School Cross Country: Jess McClain's Four Nationals Appearances, Summer Heat Training, And Advice For Chasing A Golden Ticket
Jess McClain almost skipped her first Foot Locker Nationals for a high school dance. Her coach talked her out of it, and she went on to become one of only 27 girls in the meet's history to make all four national…
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Sleep Science for Runners: Todd Anderson on Sleep Debt, Mouth Taping, and Marathon Performance — Plus the CO2 Tolerance You Build While Asleep That Changes Performance
You can't out-tough sleep. That's Todd Anderson's whole argument, and he makes it as a guy who tried. A walk-on fullback at Michigan State who signed with the Rams of the NFL in 2012, Todd spent a decade in strength…
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"I'd Spend A Million Dollars To Get Six Seconds Better At The 800": Riley Witt Of Bicarb 3.0 On Hot Baths That Rival Microdosed EPO, Threshold Reps At 4:00 Mile Pace & Other Science Truths
Riley Witt says a hot bath beats a microdose of EPO. That's where this one opens, and it doesn't slow down. Riley walks through passive heat training—45 minutes at 104 degrees, four or five times a week, and the…
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"You Don't Go To New York For A PB, You Go There To Race": European 10,000m Champion Andreas Almgren On His Marathon Debut, 200k Weeks, 37K Long Runs, And The Workouts Behind His European Gold
Andreas Almgren just won European gold by lapping half the field—and six days later, he announced he's stepping up to 26.2 miles for the first time. In this episode, recorded mid-marathon-buildup with the aches to…
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"Most Runners Train Too Hard": Marius Bakken, The Father Of Double Threshold, On What's Really Holding You Back, Advising The Ingebrigtsens, And The Golden Zone Behind The Norwegian Method
https://www.amazon.com/dp/8269471100 Most runners aren't training too hard. They're spreading the hard work too thin. Marius Bakken has spent thirty years proving it. The Norwegian physician and two-time Olympian…
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Cory Leslie on Leaving Pro Coaching for Ole Miss: SEC Roster Limits, Why He Won't Buy Hired Guns From the Portal, and What He Tells Recruits Who Don't Have Olympic Dreams
He built a world-class pro group in Baltimore. Then he left it for a college roster of 30. Five years after his first appearance on the show, Cory Leslie returns as Ole Miss's new associate head cross country and…
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Coach Bennett on Why It’s Cool to Care, the Difference Between Confidence and Arrogance, Why He Never Wishes His Runners Good Luck, and Coaching Athletes to Not Need You
The most famous voice in running almost quit before he ever got fast. It took a bad workout (and a girlfriend on the verge of dumping him) to turn Chris Bennett into Coach B. Nike's Global Running Head Coach and the…
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Jemma Reekie on 60 Miles a Week at 5:50 Pace, Missing Olympic Bronze by 0.09, and How She Rebuilt From the Lowest Point of Her Career
Jemma Reekie doesn't remember most of her records—she just ran and found out later. The Scottish 800m/1500m star joins Dominic fresh off a fifth-place finish in the stacked Birmingham 2026 Euro 800m final, and opens…
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Alex Ostberg: The Workout That Proves Your Fitness Is Usually The One That Ends Your Season, What Bicarb Actually Does To Your Body, And Why Your Willpower Will Always Lose To Your Environment
NEWSLETTER: https://therundownbytherunningeffect.substack.comThe magic workout you're chasing doesn't exist. In fact, the urge to prove your fitness before race day might be the very thing that breaks you.Alex Ostberg…
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Cortney Berling on Why Runners Underfuel Without Knowing It: Carb Timing Around Workouts, What to Eat Before a Cross Country Race, and Why Craving Sugar Isn't a Willpower Problem
Your body doesn't know the difference between Coca-Cola and watermelon. And according to registered sports dietitian Cortney Berling, that might be the most freeing thing a runner can learn. Back for her third…
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Inside Josh Kerr's Mind the Week of the Mile World Record: His Sport Psychologist on the Time Trial That Felt Too Easy, the Cue He Gave Him Race Morning, and the Flow State Behind 3:42.66 WR
Josh Kerr didn't chase the mile world record, he created it. And the man who spent six years helping him build the mind to do it is finally telling the story. Jose Maresma is Kerr's sports psychologist, a clinical…
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Never Talent. Never Fear. Always Within 1%. Pete Julian on Coaching Rupp, Farah, Centro, the Mindset of Champions, and What Separates the Good From the Great
Pete Julian didn't beat cancer—he survived it, and that distinction shapes everything about how he coaches. The Union Athletics Club founder sits down with Dominic for one of the most reflective conversations in the…
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Inside the Rise of Trenton Sandler: How a Lifelong Soccer Player Ran 1:55, Got Recruited to the SEC, and Coached Himself to a 3:42 1500
Trenton Sandler didn't care about running until his senior year of high school. Now, he's a 3:42 1500m man with 130,000 followers watching every step. The Arkansas transfer joins Dominic the day before his move to…
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From Mike Smith's Assistant to Running the Dynasty: NAU's Jarred Cornfield on the System Behind 6 Titles, Keeping It Alive in a New NCAA, and Coaching Colin Sahlman to 3x NCAA Titles
You don't replace Mike Smith. You carry forward what he built, and Jarred Cornfield is proving that's exactly how dynasties survive. Entering year two as NAU's Director of Cross Country and Track & Field, Cornfield…
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The Running Scientist: How Low Testosterone Can Make You Faster, The 4 Supplements That Actually Work, & The Warm-Up That Wins a 5K PR | Dr. Bill Evans
Dr. Bill Evans admits the post was rage bait. But the science underneath it isn't. Dominic opens by asking about Evans' claim that you can run faster with low testosterone, and Evans cheerfully cops to baiting the…
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From Wake Forest to Full-Time Counselor: Ashley Bastron on Leaving Coaching at Her Peak, the Eating Disorder Crisis in Running, and Putting People Over Results
Ashley Bastron just had the best year of her coaching career. Then she quit, and she's never felt more at peace. In this episode, Dominic sits down with the former Wake Forest Associate Head Coach who guided the Demon…
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From 9th at NCAAs to US Steeplechase Champion: Nate Mountain on the Collapse, the Mental Reset, and the Dive That Won Him a National Title + An Inside Look At His PRO Career
Six weeks ago, Nate Mountain’s championship dreams died on the last lap of the NCAA final. Turns out they were just getting started. The newly-minted U.S. steeplechase champion joins Dominic to unpack the wildest…
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From 9 National Titles as a Kid to 1:42 as a Pro: Brandon Miller on Beating the Olympic Champion, his 30 Mile Training Weeks, and Kicking Past Cooper Lutkenhaus
Brandon Miller is done being overlooked. The Brooks Beast is riding the hottest streak in American 800m running: four straight wins, including a takedown of world indoor champion Cooper Lutkenhaus at the Prefontaine…
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Eric Avila on How to Actually Get Recruited to Run in College: Why Almost Any Runner Can Earn a Scholarship, How NIL Deals Really Work, and What Coaches Are Looking For
Eric Avila quit racing, but he didn’t quit the sport altogether. The 2021 USATF Road Mile champion spent eight years with Adidas before walking away in 2024. This included a torn plantar fascia, a contract offer…
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How Fast Do You Really Lose Fitness? Alex Osberg on the Science of Detraining, Strategic Rest, and Coming Back Faster After Time Off
-The Run Down By The Running Effect (our new newsletter!): https://tinyurl.com/mr36s9rs Fitness is rented, never owned. But the rent is far cheaper than most runners think. Alex Ostberg returns for the monthly…
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How Ryan Cole Made Air Force an NCAA Powerhouse: An Inside Look at the Service Academy Few Runners Ever See, the Culture Behind It, and Why the NCAA Has Nothing Like It
There are no names on the back of an Air Force jersey, and that's exactly the point. While the rest of college running chases NIL money, transfer portals, and eighth-year seniors, Ryan Cole is quietly building a…
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UNC's New Women's Distance Coach: Ann Dunn on How She Landed the Job, What It Takes to Make It to D1, and Trying to Win an NCAA Title
Note from Dominic: for the first time in 800 episodes, had a weird issue where Ann's recording didn't save the last 5ish minutes of the podcast. So if it ends semi-abruptly that's why. Thank you for your understanding…
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The Mental Performance Coach Behind NAU's Championships: Shannon Thompson on How Runners Train the Mind to Race Without Fear, Break Through Plateaus, and Become Their Best
You can register for the program directly through the official Shannon Thompson MPC Focus Session Series Page Instagram: @shannonleighthompson Your ego isn't the enemy — it's just a bodyguard using outdated tactics.…
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How Trevor Giampa Runs Sub-2:30 Marathons While Benching 315: Inside the Brutal Training Schedule of the Hardest-Working Hybrid Athlete Alive
Trevor Giampa doesn't call himself the best hybrid athlete — he says there's no such competition. He just refuses to accept the idea that chasing a goal in the gym has to cost him a goal on the course. In this episode…
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A Coffee Table. A Dog Crate. The Top of the Empire State Building. Jacob Cohen on Quitting Investment Banking to Become the Internet's 5K Guy
Jacob Cohen has run a 5K in a dog crate, a port-a-potty, and on top of the Empire State Building–-and no, he is not stopping anytime soon. Before he was the internet's favorite 5K guy, Cohen was an investment banker…
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From One Spot Off the Olympic Team to 12:49 5k and a Pre Classic Title: Parker Wolfe on Consistency, Beating Grant Fisher, and His Rookie Pro Year For The Ages
Parker Wolfe was the 43rd man on a 42-man Olympic list. Now, he's making the case for rookie of the year in professional running. Dominic sits down with the Swoosh TC Flagstaff star to unpack a debut season that reads…
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