Empathetic leadership for tech overlords, a good backlog completes itself, and who’s agent is this, anyways?
· 37 min · S6 E51
Episode Empathetic leadership for tech overlords, a good backlog completes itself, and who’s agent is this, anyways?
This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew Zigler is joined by Zapier’s Kelly Vaughn to dive into the sudden return of Anthropic's Fable model, the realities of multi-threaded agentic engineering, and why the lowly engineering backlog is finally having its moment. To wrap things up, they review Charity Majors' latest advice on empathetic leadership and explore why the best way to win a workplace disagreement is to stop arguing and let an AI build the proof of concept.
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- https://linearb.io/event/life-beyond-tokenmaxxing
- https://devinterrupted.substack.com/
- https://www.linkedin.com/company/linearb/
- https://www.youtube.com/@DevInterrupted
- https://ratethispodcast.com/devinterrupted
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewzigler/
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/benlloydpearson/
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-lines/
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn/
- https://afterburnout.co/
- https://kvlly.com/
- https://www.anthropic.com/news/redeploying-fable-5
- https://dev.to/dailycontext/its-time-to-put-humans-back-in-the-software-factories-3cjh
- https://kanenarraway.com/posts/agent-identity-models/
- https://hugobowne.substack.com/p/benchmarking-ai-agents-for-real-data
- https://wangcong.org/2026-06-30-why-i-stopped-arguing-with-people.html
- https://stackoverflow.blog/2026/06/26/paging-charity-how-can-engineering-leaders-avoid-becoming-bond-villains/
- https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/backlog-finally-getting-its-moment-kelly-vaughn-7fvwe/
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