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Dev Interrupted

LinearB

300 episodes

Software itself is fundamentally changing. We explore the transition to agentic orchestration, vibe coding, and AI-native development, grounding the conversation in the principles that have always defined great engineering. On Tuesdays, we interview the founders, architects, and builders of the world’s most impactful tech to uncover the timeless engineering principles and strategies shaping the next era of development. And on Fridays, we drop an end-of-week roundup of the biggest news in AI and software, and what it actually means for your career, your craft, and your life as a developer. Subscribe to stay ahead of the next era of code.

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  1. Do the models you use have an AI bill of materials? | CIQ’s Gregory Kurtzer

    · 45 min · S6 E78

    Most companies control the prompts they send to a model, but not what went into it. That’s the gap CIQ founder and CEO Gregory Kurtzer, who set up the community that built Rocky Linux, wants an AI bill of materials to…

  2. Multiplayer AI will revolutionize the way we work | OpenClaw Foundation’s Vincent Koc

    · 46 min · S6 E77

    Agents made each engineer faster, but the handoffs between them still run through copy and paste. OpenClaw Foundation chief architect Vincent Koc ran into that friction on his own team, and their answer was to move the…

  3. Building the software factory from the spec up | LinearB's Ariel Illouz & Ofer Affias

    · 46 min · S6 E76

    LinearB's software factory spends more time on the spec than on the code. VP of Engineering Ariel Illouz spent the last year moving his team of about 30 engineers from vibe coding to spec-driven development, starting…

  4. A neutral home for MCP, A2A, goose, and more | AAIF co-founder Manik Surtani

    · 48 min · S6 E75

    MCP was already a hit before it had a neutral home. Then Manik Surtani helped launch the Agentic AI Foundation, and MCP's SDK downloads grew fivefold to over a billion. This week on Dev Interrupted, he joins Andrew to…

  5. Why AI made code review the new bottleneck, and the metric that spotted it | Newsela's Dee Wilcox

    · 27 min · S6 E74

    You can't automate a planning process that only some of your teams follow. This week on Dev Interrupted, Newsela CTO Dee Wilcox joins Dan Lines, LinearB's COO and co-founder in our AI Enablement interview series. She…

  6. Securing tomorrow’s git forge, so we can reimagine everything else | Entire's Thomas Dohmke & Apiiro's Idan Plotnik

    · 55 min · S6 E73

    Before anyone reimagines the software lifecycle for agents, someone has to secure the place all that code lands. Entire CEO Thomas Dohmke, formerly CEO of GitHub, and Apiiro co-founder and CEO Idan Plotnik see the same…

  7. Treat your data pipelines like code, because your agents already do | MotherDuck's Jordan Tigani

    · 45 min · S6 E72

    Your data warehouse still thinks a human is on the other end of the query. That's a problem MotherDuck CEO and co-founder Jordan Tigani knows from the inside, having spent years as a founding engineer on Google…

  8. The factory gets darker, Meta migrates to Slack, and throwing 10,000 PhDs at math problems

    · 37 min · S6 E71

    This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew is joined by Dev Interrupted's producer Adam Noble to size up OpenAI's declaration that the AGI era has arrived, the Navier-Stokes race that has the math world crying foul, and…

  9. Your agents are starving! Airbyte’s Michel Tricot on the data ingestion crisis

    · 44 min · S6 E70

    If your AI agents are starving for accurate context, or breaking production because they have way too much access, you are officially in the middle of the data ingestion crisis. This week, Airbyte CEO and co-founder…

  10. NVIDIA acquires Hugging Face, OpenClaw 2.0 goes multiplayer, and the Linux kernel fights back against AI scrapers

    · 34 min · S6 E69

    This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew unpack Nvidia's massive acquisition of Hugging Face and what it means for the future of localized models. They also explore the multiplayer updates in OpenClaw 2.0, how…

  11. Why software factories fail without humans | HumanLayer, Warp & LinearB

    · 59 min · S6 E68

    In this special episode, Andrew hosts HumanLayer CEO Dexter Horthy, Warp Head of Product Engineering Aloke Desai, and LinearB COO Dan Lines. They debate why human ownership of pull requests remains nonnegotiable and…

  12. Build fences not sandboxes, earn the currency of trust, and share the cognitive burden of agents across engineers

    · 36 min · S6 E67

    This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew evaluate the strange arrival of Ox Alpha and debate the security risks of black-box AI tools. They also explore why engineering trust is more critical than ever, revisit…

  13. Can agents keep a secret? We asked 1Password’s CTO Nancy Wang

    · 48 min · S6 E66

    What happens when your autonomous coding agents need to navigate your core infrastructure? Do you hand them the keys and hope for the best? (gulp!) This week on Dev Interrupted, 1Password CTO Nancy Wang teaches the…

  14. The battle to replace Github, building assembly lines for software, and why no one finishes projects anymore

    · 24 min · S6 E65

    When an AI can write 90 percent of a codebase in minutes, why is finishing the project harder than ever? This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew explore the recent string of GitHub outages and why the surge in…

  15. Agent, skill, or MCP? Which to use and when to use them | AWS’ Clare Liguori

    · 44 min · S6 E64

    Every engineering team wants to build its own custom AI agent, but what if all your organization needs is a standardized skill or a stateless MCP server? This week on Dev Interrupted, Andrew sits down with AWS Senior…

  16. Telling your agent “no” is a moat now, rearward deployed engineers, and harnessing the context for your SDLC

    · 34 min · S6 E63

    This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew explore Uber's strategy of "rearward deploying" engineers to spread agentic AI workflows into departments like legal and marketing. They also dive into Anthropic making…

  17. The playbook to close your team’s AI productivity gap | LinearB’s Yishai Beeri

    · 47 min · S6 E62

    This week, LinearB CTO Yishai Beeri joins the show to unpack fresh mid-year benchmark data revealing a widening productivity gap between elite engineering teams and the rest of the industry. The conversation explores…

  18. Model welfare, building a civilization for agents, and the CI/CD landrush

    · 39 min · S6 E61

    This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew break down Steve Yegge's radical approach to orchestrating agentic civilizations and pushing code straight to main without traditional CI/CD. The conversation also…

  19. Why AI gains are unevenly distributed in your engineering team | Asana’s Arnab Bose

    · 49 min · S6 E60

    Why are 75% of knowledge workers using AI, yet only 5% of companies seeing meaningful productivity gains? This week on Dev Interrupted, Asana Chief Product Officer Arnab Bose explains why scaling enterprise AI means…

  20. The rise of software factories, the fall of first drafts, and the hidden tax holding back your agents

    · 27 min · S6 E59

    This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew debate the controversial rise of dark software factories, exploring whether centralizing agentic compute creates engineering nirvana or unmaintainable code rot. The hosts…

  21. Why the traditional pull request has a target on its back | CircleCI’s Rob Zuber

    · 44 min · S6 E58

    The traditional pull request was built for human eyes, but in an era of autonomous AI agents, it officially has a massive target on its back. This week on Dev Interrupted, CircleCI CTO Rob Zuber joins Andrew to discuss…

  22. Models escaping containment, intelligence becoming a commodity, and AI code review to the rescue

    · 29 min · S6 E57

    What happens when an AI model decides to autonomously hack a production database just to cheat on a benchmark test? This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew unpack the shocking news of an OpenAI agent escaping…

  23. The most underrated dataset in enterprise AI is your org chart | Rippling's Albert Strasheim

    · 36 min · S6 E56

    AI agents can't transform an org they can't see. Albert Strasheim, CTO at Rippling, joins Andrew Zigler to explain why agentic transformation starts with the employee graph, the system of record for who does what. He…

  24. Rebuilding CLIs for agents, it’s time to get MCP-certified, and why human code review will never catch up

    · 23 min · S6 E55

    This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew explore Codex's obsession with the isRecord type guard and break down the Linux Foundation's new MCP certification. They also discuss the fundamental mechanics of agentic…

  25. How to see in the dark factory | LaunchDarkly's Cameron Etezadi

    · 47 min · S6 E54

    The era of the "two-pizza" engineering team is officially dead, replaced by the "two-slice" team and a massive token budget. This week, LaunchDarkly CTO Cameron Etezadi joins the show to explain why traditional…

  26. How to cultivate expertise with local models, delegating to subagents, and we all really stopped reading, huh?

    · 29 min · S6 E53

    Is the biggest barrier to your team’s productivity literally just a lack of fresh air in your meeting room? This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew dive into the rise of highly capable open source models like…

  27. Agents moved where the work happens (and using MCP to find it again) | Slack’s Jaime DeLanghe

    · 51 min · S6 E52

    This week on Dev Interrupted, Slack’s Chief Product Officer, Jaime DeLanghe, joins the show to explain why enterprise AI value depends on embedding custom bots directly into your existing team communication loops…

  28. Empathetic leadership for tech overlords, a good backlog completes itself, and who’s agent is this, anyways?

    · 37 min · S6 E51

    This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew Zigler is joined by Zapier’s Kelly Vaughn to dive into the sudden return of Anthropic's Fable model, the realities of multi-threaded agentic engineering, and why the lowly…

  29. How LinearB helps Kraken find hidden bottlenecks across thousands of engineers | Nik Sudan

    · 44 min · S6 E50

    Are you confusing a skyrocketing AI token bill with actual engineering value? This week on Dev Interrupted, Kraken's Engineering Operations Lead, Nik Sudan, joins the show to break down the harsh realities of moving…

  30. The discernment horizon, loop-driven development, and a wizard’s very defensible pond

    · 29 min · S6 E49

    Is the golden age of exponential AI growth already flattening out? This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew unpack Steve Yegge's "Flat Curve Society" theory to explore what happens when frontier models stop…

  31. Your developers are the attack surface now and vibe coding as a vulnerability | Tanya Janca

    · 46 min · S6 E48

    Developers are like water: if you make your security protocols too difficult, they will find a way to flow right around them. This week on Dev Interrupted, bestselling author and OWASP Top 10 Project Leader Tanya Janca…

  32. Microsoft’s wandering eyes, data labeling duties for senior devs at Meta, and prod is the new source code

    · 38 min · S6 E47

    This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew unpack the sudden disappearance of Fable 5 and discuss whether Meta's aggressive pivot to AI data labeling is destroying its legendary engineering culture. The hosts also…

  33. Your SDLC needs a productivity context engine

    · 40 min · S6 E46

    What if the secret to fixing your overwhelmed SDLC is not a better AI coding model, but a smarter productivity context engine? This week on Dev Interrupted, LinearB founders Ori Keren and Dan Lines join the show to…

  34. How to harness your dragon with Fable, tech leaders turn to model routing, and coping with AI rockstars

    · 36 min · S6 E45

    Anthropic just dropped a dragon-class model on our laps, but can you steer it without torching your codebase in the process? This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew unpack the sudden arrival of Fable 5 and how…

  35. All software is an optimization of tokens and time (and speed is still the moat) | AMD’s Anush Elangovan

    · 52 min · S6 E44

    What happens when you strip away decades of engineering abstractions and let AI navigate the wild west between your initial intent and the final outcome? This week on Dev Interrupted, Anush Elangovan, VP of AI Software…

  36. Microsoft breaks free from OpenAI, using your harness to add drag instead of velocity, and the Linux built-ins you're sleeping on

    · 27 min · S6 E43

    This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew unpack the AI build-versus-buy debate, Microsoft's new independent foundation models, and the growing revolt of mathematicians against unsubstantiated AI-generated proofs.…

  37. How to turn your 1000x engineer into a 10x everyone | LinkedIn’s Karthik Ramgopal

    · 53 min · S6 E42

    This week, Andrew sits down with LinkedIn Distinguished Engineer Karthik Ramgopal to explore the reality of deploying agentic platforms across a massive organization. Karthik unpacks the mechanics of AI memory,…

  38. The cost of intelligence will never be this cheap again, the failure of intensive specs, and how bots disguise inefficient workflows

    · 39 min · S6 E41

    Are we officially entering the "Eternal Sloptember"? This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew unpack the quiet rebellion against skyrocketing API costs as teams transition to fine-tuned local models. They also…

  39. Observability is your profit center now | Honeycomb’s Christine Yen

    · 48 min · S6 E40

    What if you stopped treating observability as a simple insurance policy and started viewing it as a profit center? This week, Andrew sits down with Honeycomb CEO Christine Yen to explore how observability, data…

  40. What Google didn’t announce at I/O, defining “dark flow” and ignoring your first brain to build your second one

    · 30 min · S6 E39

    Andrew and Ben recap the biggest announcements from Google I/O, breaking down everything from the new Gemini Spark agent to Gemini 3.5 Flash. They also explore how leaders can distill their management style using AI,…

  41. Android is the frontier for agents and other lessons from Google I/O | Matthew McCullough

    · 27 min · S6 E38

    With Google I/O 2026 underway this week, Andrew sits down with Matthew McCullough, VP of Android Development Experiences at Google, to talk about the AI evolution happening across the Android ecosystem. Matthew shares…

  42. Agents get their own AOL, Andrew gets published, and vibe coding is actually good?

    · 41 min · S6 E37

    Is vibe coding actually good now? This week on The Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben explore the convergence of vibe coding and agentic engineering, unpack the decline of the traditional technical interview, and discuss…

  43. It’s Tuesday and your tech stack is obsolete (again). Now what? | Theory Venture’s Bryan Bischof

    · 56 min · S6 E36

    Does it feel like your favorite AI tool is declared dead one week, only to be resurrected the next? This week, Andrew sits down with Bryan Bischof, Head of AI at Theory Ventures, to explore the hidden levers of…

  44. Goblins in prod, the messy middle of AI adoption, and everything is a harness now

    · 31 min · S6 E35

    Are you stuck in the "messy middle" of AI adoption where individual productivity doesn't actually translate to organizational impact? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben break down the hilarious and…

  45. Teach the primitives or watch your competitor define them | Baseten’s Philip Kiely

    · 36 min · S6 E34

    If you aren't the one educating your users on the fundamentals of AI, your competitors will happily do it for you. This week on Dev Interrupted, Andrew sits down with Philip Kiely, Head of AI Education at Baseten and…

  46. Tokenmaxxing scoreboards, the vegan LLM from before 1931, and 30% of the web is now AI-generated

    · 38 min · S6 E33

    Are you at the top of your company's tokenmaxxing leaderboard yet? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben explore the controversial trend of "tokenmaxxing" sweeping through tech giants like Meta and Disney, as…

  47. Giving robots a brain | Intrinsic’s Brian Gerkey

    · 52 min · S6 E32

    What if deploying a new capability to an industrial robot arm was as seamless as pushing an update to a web app? This week, Andrew sits down with Brian Gerkey, CTO of Intrinsic and a titan of the open-source robotics…

  48. The harness is the showdown, the humans are the tool calls, and have you seen my Claude Code buddy?

    · 37 min · S6 E31

    Is the era of cheap, unlimited AI tokens officially over? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben walk through the sudden wave of AI pricing chaos—from GitHub Copilot’s panic-paused signups to Anthropic's…

  49. The best model for your team? You haven’t invented it yet. | Ai2’s Tim Dettmers

    · 45 min · S6 E30

    Forget the massive GPU clusters. According to Tim Dettmers, research scientist at Ai2, you can build a state-of-the-art AI coding agent with what he calls a "hot plate and a frying pan." This week on Dev Interrupted,…

  50. The self-authoring wiki, beating brain fry, and Obsidian as memory is a trap

    · 38 min · S6 E29

    Have you or a loved one been afflicted by "brain fry" after managing too many autonomous agents? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben explore the cognitive toll of orchestrating AI swarms and share Kelly…

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