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The leapfrog to lithium-ion submarines: "If anyone can do this, it’s the Chinese"

· 40 min · S1 E15

Episode The leapfrog to lithium-ion submarines: "If anyone can do this, it’s the Chinese"

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Every fortnight, Sam Roggeveen and Hugh White discuss major developments in international affairs affecting Australia and the region, from an Australian perspective.

“You have to be very clear where the capability trends are going.

“Intentions can change quickly, but it's worth making the point that the broader geostrategic framework within which intentions evolve can change more slowly.

“When we made the foundation of Australian defense policy throughout the 70s, 80s and 90s, even into the 2000, it was that: we didn't have to care much about China's military capabilities because we could not conceive that it would have an intention to use force against us. “Now, what's the big thing that's changed on the intention side is that in the decades ahead, we're expecting China to be much less constrained by American power and therefore to have opportunities, if it chooses, to use force against Australia free of interference from the United States. Which it wouldn't have had, which we didn't conceive it having decades ago.”

“There’s an element of intention that changes slowly, too.

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