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Sobriety, Relapse & Redemption: Rich Speaks On Shia Labeouf & What True Accountability Looks Like

12 Mar 2026 · 56 min · Episode 973

This is my first solo episode — and honestly, out of my comfort zone. Which is exactly why I needed to do it.

The recent Channel 5 interview between Shia LaBeouf and Andrew Callaghan went wildly viral. Most of the discourse has been voyeuristic or vilifying. I wanted to do something different and use it as a lens to examine what addiction actually looks like in real time.

As a recovering alcoholic, I know this territory. The grandiosity. The denial. The theater of contrition without any contrary action to back it up.

This is a serious conversation about relapse, accountability, and what real change actually requires, including what it looked like in my own life.

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