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Classic: Intelligent Design on Trial – 15 Years After Kitzmiller-Dover - Mike Behe v Joshua Swamidass

8 Apr 2025 · 1 h 06 min

As we prepare a fresh episode exploring the legacy of Intelligent Design, we’re diving back into the archives to revisit this compelling 2020 conversation between biochemist Michael Behe and biologist Joshua Swamidass. In 2005, the high-profile Kitzmiller v. Dover trial challenged the Dover School District’s attempt to introduce Intelligent Design (ID) as an alternative to evolution in the classroom. Behe, a leading advocate for ID and a key witness in the trial, reflects on the case and its impact on the movement 15 years later. Swamidass, a fellow Christian and critic of ID, engages Behe on the scientific and theological implications of the trial and offers a robust critique of Behe’s book Darwin Devolves. A fascinating and respectful face-off on science, faith, and the question of design in nature.

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For Michael Behe: https://michaelbehe.com/ For Joshua Swamidass: https://peacefulscience.org/