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How to Be More Optimistic with Simon Sinek

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Episode How to Be More Optimistic with Simon Sinek

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Simon Sinek is an optimist, bestselling author of Start with Why, and founder of The Optimism Company.

In this special episode of Office Hours, part of the Be Hope podcast takeover during the United Nations General Assembly, Simon joins me to explore what optimism really requires. We discuss how optimism differs from hope, why relationships help us sustain a belief in a better future, how our expectations shape others, and why pessimism has become so powerful. We also explain how leaders can turn optimism into action through a clear vision, and how each of us can become more optimistic by creating space to imagine a better future and finding a vision worth pursuing.

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Where to find Simon Sinek:

• X: https://x.com/simonsinek

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonsinek

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/simonsinek

• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/simonsinek

• Podcast: https://simonsinek.com/podcast

• Website: https://simonsinek.com

Where to find Arthur Brooks:

• Website: https://arthurbrooks.com/

• In-person Retreats: https://retreats.arthurbrooks.com/

• Newsletter: https://www.arthurbrooks.com/newsletter

• X: https://x.com/arthurbrooks

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arthurcbrooks/

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ArthurBrooks/

• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGuyFRjJQFGCKzfHTBvWM6A

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arthur-c-brooks/

• Email: officehours@arthurbrooks.com

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Intro

(06:10) How Arthur and Simon met

(07:24) Why Simon defines himself as an optimist

(13:10) The difference between optimism and hope

(19:15) How expectations shape relationships and behavior

(28:31) Why optimism is on the decline

(30:39) Why we need leaders with vision

(34:48) How to be more optimistic

(42:42) Optimism in politics

(50:11) Four lessons for becoming more optimistic

(53:55) Advice for leaders

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Referenced:

• The Meaning of Your Life: Finding Purpose in an Age of Emptiness: https://www.arthurbrooks.com/the-meaning-of-your-life

• Arthur’s newsletter: https://www.arthurbrooks.com/newsletter

• The Happiness Scale: https://learn.arthurbrooks.com/the-happiness-scale

• The Pursuit of Happiness with Arthur Brooks: https://www.thefp.com/s/the-pursuit-of-happiness-with-arthur

• Be Hope Podcast Takeover: https://globalgoals.org/behope/

• The U.N. General Assembly 2026: https://www.un.org/en/high-level-week-2026

• The Power of Why | Simon Sinek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0rOB91WEOk

• ...References continued at: https://www.arthurbrooks.com/office-hours

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