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Greenwashing and Internal Audit: Governance, Risk, and the Growing Regulatory Crackdown

· 25 min · S3 E82

Episode Greenwashing and Internal Audit: Governance, Risk, and the Growing Regulatory Crackdown

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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit

In this episode, Ahmed Sharif Hawky and Emmanuel Pascal discuss why greenwashing is no longer just a reputational risk, but also a governance and assurance challenge. Together they break down how greenwashing qualifies as legal misrepresentation, why most control environments are far weaker than leadership realizes, and what a practical audit approach looks like — from mapping sustainability claims across channels to using data analytics and intensity ratios to test what companies report and what they don't.

• HOST:

• Dr. Ahmed Shawky, CIA, CPA CEO, SustainGRC

• GUEST:

• Emmanuel Pascal, CIA, CRMA, CFE CEO, Condor Strike Member, Committee of Research and Education Advisors, Internal Audit Foundation

KEY POINTS:

• Introduction [00:00-00:00:50] • Defining Greenwashing [00:00:50-00:02:14] • Political Backlash vs. Regulatory Reality [00:02:16-00:03:21] • Greenwashing as Misrepresentation [00:03:24-00:06:13] • Global Greenwashing Regulations [00:06:13-00:07:16] • Greenwashing as Value Fraud [00:07:22-00:11:07] • Assessing Greenwashing Risk [00:11:14-00:13:49] • Green Strategy and Red Flags [00:13:50-00:14:48] • Using Data Analytics to Test Sustainability Claims [00:14:48-00:18:10] • Building a Strong Control Framework [00:18:13-00:19:27] • Internal Audit's Approach to Greenwashing Risk [00:19:27-00:20:58] • Training Auditors on Sustainability [00:20:58-00:21:52] • DWS Greenwashing Case [00:21:52-00:23:42] • 2026 International Conference Promo [00:23:47-00:24:18] • Closing [00:24:25-00:24:34]

IIA RELATED CONTENT: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:

• 2026 IIA International Conference • Knowledge Centers: Environmental, Social, and Governance • Global Internal Audit Standards • Vision 2035 • Global Perspectives & Insights: Sustainability • All Things Internal Audit: Unmasking Greenwashing • On the Frontlines: Greenwashing and Closing the Authenticity Gap • Five Questions: Preventing Greenwashing • Fighting Greenwashing Fraud Using Data Analytics

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