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OpenClaw vs Meta vs OpenAI: The Personal Agent Wars Heat Up

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Episode OpenClaw vs Meta vs OpenAI: The Personal Agent Wars Heat Up

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In this episode of More or Less, we go from Sam's urgent care drama to the hottest debates in AI. Dave dives into his news about joining the OpenClaw Foundation board as the fastest-growing open source project in internet history faces a new chapter. While the OpenClaw founder is heading to OpenAI, Meta is launching competing agents, and the battle for personal AI is officially ON. How the "Internet of Putting iPads on Things" era returning, Anthropic vs Pentagon drama, whether AI intelligence will become worthless like cheap electricity, and why your 'normie' friends will be sending you their vibe-coded apps within 12 months.

Chapters:

3:02 Sam's Ski Injury Saga

5:00 OpenClaw Founder Going To OpenAI & Dave's Foundation Role

8:07 OpenClaw vs. Manus (On-Device vs. Cloud)

11:02 Vibe Coding: Building an App a Day

12:03 Meta vs. OpenAI Rivalry

22:00 The Fundraising Market: Mega Rounds & Narrative Capitalism

27:04 The Big Debate: Bay Area Engineers in 3 Years

41:01 Anthropic vs. The Pentagon

45:01 Intelligence as a Commodity

53:50 Tennis with Madison Keys plug

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