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S2E337: The $100K Mistake: The Case Against College (with Hannah Maruyama)

10 Jun 2026 · 30 min · S2 E337

Higher education is an $848 billion industry, and families are falling into the default trap of buying degrees that don't match the modern job market.

In this episode, Mackenzie sits down with Hannah Maruyama, the founder of Degree Free. Hannah has helped over 18,000 families dismantle the "one-size-fits-all" approach to post-grad paths. She breaks down how only 6% to 10% of jobs in the U.S. actually legally require a degree, and why traditional K-12 schooling has turned into a marketing funnel for universities rather than a place for actual education.

Tune in to learn how to help your teenager reverse-engineer a successful career based on the life they actually want to live—without the unnecessary debt.