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Interview 40: Ronan McGovern

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Episode Interview 40: Ronan McGovern

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In this episode of If I Were the Minister for Education, I speak with Ronan McGovern about ADHD and its impact in Irish primary and secondary schooling. Ronan outlines his education and career path from Dublin to accounting, King’s Inns, PwC New York and an MBA at Stanford, where a classmate identified ADHD traits and he later received a diagnosis at age 34. He reflects on being held back in school by inattention, note-taking difficulties, a need to move, and negative experiences including corporal punishment, while also recognising teachers who focused on him as an individual. Drawing on work with Stanford’s Neurodiversity Project, he discusses universal design, the overlooked creativity of neurodiverse people, and internships as a practical inclusion strategy. Ronan shares approaches that would have helped him learn Irish: video, rhythm and sound, plus explicit grammar and structure; and recommends voice-to-text supports and mindfulness, alongside early diagnosis and intervention.

00:00 Welcome and Overview

00:47 Meet Ronan McGovern

01:42 Career Path to Stanford

03:39 Late ADHD Diagnosis

05:59 School Years Revisited

10:23 Coping and Sensory Needs

12:27 Universal Design in Schools

14:22 Why Support Lags Behind

16:23 Stanford Research Takeaways

19:06 Creativity and Neurodiversity

21:27 Famous ADHD Role Models

22:35 Why Leaders Stay Quiet

23:27 Famous Neurodiverse Founders

24:36 Learning Irish With ADHD

25:28 Teach Through Sound First

26:26 Grammar Patterns Matter

29:18 Book And Classroom Fixes

30:55 Early Intervention In Schools

32:07 If I Were Minister

33:09 Tech Ideas For Classrooms

35:00 Where To Follow And Wrap Up

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