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EP244 The Future of SOAPA: Jon Oltsik on Platform Consolidation vs. Best-of-Breed in the Age of Agentic AI
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Episode EP244 The Future of SOAPA: Jon Oltsik on Platform Consolidation vs. Best-of-Breed in the Age of Agentic AI
Guest:
• Jon Oltsik, security researcher, ex-ESG analyst
Topics:
• You invented the concept of SOAPA – Security Operations & Analytics Platform Architecture. As we look towards SOAPA 2025, how do you see the ongoing debate between consolidating security around a single platform versus a more disaggregated, best-of-breed approach playing out? • What are the key drivers for either strategy in today's complex environments? How can we have both "decoupling" and platformization going at the same time? • With all the buzz around Generative AI and Agentic AI, how do you envision these technologies changing the future of the Security Operations Center (and SOAPA of course)? • Where do you see AI really work today in the SOC and what is the proof of that actually happening? What does a realistic "AI SOC" look like in the next few years, and what are the practical implications for security teams? • "Integration" is always a hot topic in security - and it has been for decades. Within the context of SOAPA and the adoption of advanced analytics, where do you see the most critical integration challenges today – whether it's vendor-centric ecosystems, strategic partnerships, or the push for open standards?
Resources:
• Jon Oltsik "The Cybersecurity Bridge" podcast (Anton on it) • EP236 Accelerated SIEM Journey: A SOC Leader's Playbook for Modernization and AI • EP242 The AI SOC: Is This The Automation We've Been Waiting For? • EP202 Beyond Tiered SOCs: Detection as Code and the Rise of Response Engineering • EP180 SOC Crossroads: Optimization vs Transformation - Two Paths for Security Operations Center • EP170 Redefining Security Operations: Practical Applications of GenAI in the SOC • EP73 Your SOC Is Dead? Evolve to Output-driven Detect and Respond! • Daniel Suarez "Daemon" book and its sequel "Delta V"
Links in the notes 13
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonoltsik/
- https://www.csoonline.com/article/567745/soapa-vs-soar-how-these-security-terms-differ.html
- https://medium.com/anton-on-security/decoupled-siem-brilliant-or-stupid-ada2c3142b2b
- https://www.thecube.net/events/program/cybersecurity-bridge
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlJaquldlhE&list=PLenh213llmcahJrPzS8jdF-sunb9VRBpl
- https://cloud.withgoogle.com/cloudsecurity/podcast/ep236-accelerated-siem-journey-a-soc-leaders-playbook-for-modernization-and-ai/
- https://cloud.withgoogle.com/cloudsecurity/podcast/ep242-the-ai-soc-is-this-the-automation-weve-been-waiting-for/
- https://cloud.withgoogle.com/cloudsecurity/podcast/ep202-beyond-tiered-socs-detection-as-code-and-the-rise-of-response-engineering/
- https://cloud.withgoogle.com/cloudsecurity/podcast/ep180-soc-crossroads-optimization-vs-transformation-two-paths-for-security-operations-center/
- https://cloud.withgoogle.com/cloudsecurity/podcast/ep170-redefining-security-operations-practical-applications-of-genai-in-the-soc/
- https://cloud.withgoogle.com/cloudsecurity/podcast/ep73-your-soc-is-dead-evolve-to-output-driven-detect-and-respond/
- https://www.amazon.com/Daemon-Daniel-Suarez/dp/0525951113
- https://www.amazon.com/Delta-v-Daniel-Suarez/dp/1524742414
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