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How Fiction Will Remember October 7 - with Lior Raz and Avi Issacharoff
· 50 min · Episode 564
Episode How Fiction Will Remember October 7 - with Lior Raz and Avi Issacharoff
How do you turn October 7th into fiction when it still feels like the present?
For more than a decade, Fauda has turned the Israeli-Palestinian conflict into a global television phenomenon. But Season 5 takes on something different: two episodes that put its fictional characters inside the events of October 7th, while the trauma is still very much alive. Dan sits down with Fauda creators Lior Raz and Avi Issacharoff to discuss the responsibility of dramatizing a real catastrophe, what they chose to show—and leave unseen—and what happens when fiction begins to shape how the world remembers history.
Read John Aziz’s Atlantic piece on Fauda here.
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In this episode:
- How Fauda reconstructed the events of October 7th
- How the co-creators determined the level of violence they could portray
- Why the creators saw Season 5 as more than just another season of TV
- Why Fauda is drawing a huge audience across the Arab world
- Can a television show become part of the historical record that’s still being written?
- In an era of misinformation and anti-semitism, why it’s important to tell this story during a still-living trauma
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