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Is $WISE About to Explode on the NASDAQ? (E131)

10 May 2026 · 20 min · Episode 131

The largest UK fintech is abandoning the London Stock Exchange for the NASDAQ — and Luke thinks it could be an inflection point. This solo deep-dive makes the bull AND bear case on one of his highest-conviction holdings, right before the dual listing goes live. Here's what every investor needs to know before May 11th.

💰 Why $WISE is ditching London for the NASDAQ — and what it means for shareholders who already own the UK listing

📊 The numbers behind the conviction: 27% volume growth, 22% more active customers, and a take rate that keeps falling on purpose

🎓 How Wise actually moves money across borders — the elegant infrastructure trick that lets them undercut every bank on the planet

🎯 Luke's reverse DCF breakdown: what growth rate the market is currently pricing in, and whether that's a gift or a trap

💀 The bear case we can't hide from: falling take rates + rising costs = a business model that only works if volume growth never stops

🤖 Stablecoins and the Genius Act — is crypto a real existential threat to $WISE, or just a question every investor asks and never acts on?

🌐 The index inclusion catalyst: why Russell 1000 membership in 2027 could trigger a wave of institutional buying nobody's talking about yet

Sources:

Shooting the Bull with Drowsy and Bear: https://open.spotify.com/show/5qH1zzezA4EnHHGibgzJlb?si=XkN43t9ZRUuAD8Mh2RMvzg&nd=1&dlsi=a7c955266e91477f

Segments:

00:00:00 Welcome — Solo Episode & What's Coming to WSW

00:01:21 What Is Wise and How Does It Actually Work?

00:04:08 The NASDAQ Dual Listing: Dates, Mechanics & What Shareholders Need to Do

00:09:05 $WISE Key Numbers: Volume Growth, Customers & Take Rate

00:11:08 Rising Costs: Investment in Growth or a Warning Sign?

00:12:44 $WISE Valuation: Reverse DCF & The Inflection Point Thesis

00:14:54 Bear Case #1: The Take Rate Trap

00:15:48 Bear Case #2: Stablecoins & Crypto — Real Threat or Overhyped?

00:18:11 Luke's Conviction: 4 Years as Customer & Shareholder

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Keywords:

$WISE, Wise PLC, NASDAQ dual listing, fintech investing, cross-border payments, stablecoins, Genius Act, take rate, reverse DCF, index inclusion, Russell 1000, Wise platform, fintech stock, London Stock Exchange, UK fintech, free cash flow, institutional buying, crypto vs fintech, position sizing, high conviction investing, compounding moat, growth investing, Luke Hallard, Wall Street Wildlife

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• https://open.spotify.com/show/5qH1zzezA4EnHHGibgzJlb?si=XkN43t9ZRUuAD8Mh2RMvzg&nd=1&dlsi=a7c955266e91477f

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