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Episode 201 - The Toughest Questions on Māori & Christianity: Henare Whaanga, Part 1

· 45 min · S1 E201

Episode Episode 201 - The Toughest Questions on Māori & Christianity: Henare Whaanga, Part 1

0:00 45:26

Last year, I had the privilege of interviewing Henare at the Thinking Matters Conference. Clips from that conversation reached hundreds of thousands online, sparking passionate discussion from people on all sides. Recently, Henare joined me again to unpack some of the biggest questions surrounding Māori identity, Christianity, and colonisation - and to respond to some of the criticism. In the first of this two-part conversation with Henare, we revisit some of the biggest objections raised by viewers. Together we explore whether Māori were forced to speak English, whether Christianity was simply a strategic tool of colonisation, and whether whakapapa and Christian faith can coexist. This conversation goes beyond history. We talk about the emotions that surface when reflecting on past injustices, what healing can look like, and why pursuing truth matters - even when the conversation is difficult. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 0:00 – Coming up 1:23 – Watch Henare's previous episode 1:48 – How Henare has handled the viral response 2:31 – Catching up with Henare 5:04 – Objection: Māori were forced to speak English 22:26 – Objection: Religion was a strategic tactic partnered with colonisation 27:25 – Objection: Christianity cannot exist alongside Te Ao Māori because of whakapapa 32:01 – What does it mean to "Reindigenise"? 35:43 – Processing the emotions surrounding past injustices

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