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Two Ex-CIA Officers Clash Over China, Israel & Surveillance | PBD Podcast #832

14 Jul 2026 · 2 h 00 min

Former CIA officers Andrew Bustamante and Sarah Adams join Patrick Bet-David for one of the most intense intelligence debates yet. They clash over China, Israel, Iran, terrorism, AI, surveillance, propaganda, JFK, Havana Syndrome, and the future of America. Two insiders. Two completely different worldviews. Decide for yourself who makes the stronger case.

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