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How Elite Societies Secretly Control You - Mark Booth

8 Oct 2026 · 59 min · Episode 696

I asked how secret societies manipulate you. The answer was much closer to home…

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- The Secret History of the World: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Illustrated-Secret-History-World/dp/1468315668/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0

- The Secret History of the Universe: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Secret-History-Universe-Ancient-Wisdom/dp/1918107017/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0

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Freemasons, secret rituals and powerful men behind closed doors. Mark Booth, also known as Jonathan Black, joins Andrew Gold on Heretics to explore the hidden teachings of secret societies—and the unsettling claims made about their influence.

Mark describes ancient mystery schools where revealing secrets allegedly meant death, terrifying initiation ceremonies, and practices he believes can give people power over others. Yet he insists Freemasonry is fundamentally benevolent. I challenge him on what happens when powerful people decide they know what’s best for humanity.

Then the conversation gets stranger: scientists practising the occult, a table that isn’t what it seems, the possibility of living in a simulation, consciousness after death, and intelligence that could be older than humanity itself.

Mark is the author of The Secret History of the World and The Secret History of the Universe.

Which claim surprised you most—and which would you challenge? Let me know below, and subscribe to Heretics for more conversations that question what we think we know.

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