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This ALWAYS Happens Before A Housing Market Crash… | Michael Zuber

7 Jun 2026 · 1 h 47 min

MagBak: Get 15% off of ANY product using code ICED15 at https://creators.magbak.com/theicedcoffeehour9tn Airbnb: Find a co-host at https://airbnb.com/host AMP: Check it out at https://amp.ai and use code ICED for 10% OFF Your order Upwork: Post your job free at http://upwork.com/COFFEE and connect with top talent to grow your business. Shopify: Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at https://shopify.com/ich Real Estate Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14s9RLZKXQdz5UkkdzVDMnVoEjyREkND7/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=115177699567463889514&rtpof=true&sd=true Follow @OneRentalataTime Here! Sign up for the waitlist at: http://www.extradollar.com/ *𝗖𝗢𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗪𝗜𝗧𝗛 𝗨𝗦* 𝗜𝗚: https://www.instagram.com/icedcoffeehour 𝗝𝗔𝗖𝗞: https://www.instagram.com/jlsselby 𝗚𝗥𝗔𝗛𝗔𝗠: https://www.instagram.com/gpstephan 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:20 - The 52-Year Spreadsheet & What It Revealed 00:03:38 - Why Prices Don't Fall: Transactions Crash Instead 00:06:24 - The 18-Year Cycle Myth & The Slow Recovery Timeline 00:09:35 - Advice for the Average Buyer in 2026 00:10:53 - Prediction: Home Prices Flat Until 2030 00:12:35 - Why This Isn't 2008: The Adjustable Rate Mortgage Difference 00:15:03 - The Demographics Argument & Boomer Inventory Concerns 00:16:33 - How Zuber Could Be Wrong & Policy Fixes for Entry-Level Housing 00:19:20 - Ben Shapiro's "Just Move" Take & When to Buy vs Rent 00:20:38 - The Discipline of a Buy Box (How to Find 15% Off Deals) 00:24:02 - Why Real Estate Is Inefficient & Where the Opportunity Lives 00:26:39 - Creative Financing: What It Is and Where People Mess Up 00:28:32 - The Three-Step Process to Build Wealth 00:30:20 - Living on $12K While Making $50K: How Michael Stays Content 00:32:46 - The Crying-in-the-Car Moment After 12 Years of Sacrifice 00:34:53 - Inflation History & The Stock Market Reversion to the Mean 00:38:43 - What Happens If Rates Drop to 4%? (Kevin Warsh & Trimmed Averages) 00:41:00 - Who Should and Shouldn't Be a Real Estate Investor 00:42:46 - The Duplex Story: A Sober Living Buyer Overpays 50% 00:46:16 - Lies About Real Estate Investing (Brandon Turner & the No-Money-Down Myth) 00:47:31 - Why Debt Always Blows Up & The Power of 30-Year Fixed Rates 00:49:32 - Hardest Part of Being a Landlord 00:50:24 - How Michael Spends His Margin (Travel, Not Stuff) 00:52:02 - The Need vs Want Audit That Changed Everything 00:54:26 - The Caleb Hammer Insight: Health and Wealth Are Linked 00:57:20 - Dave Ramsey's 40-Year Consistency & The Billion-Dollar Loan Question 00:59:35 - The Guy Who Lost $10M Over a $50K Credit 01:00:03 - Should Graham & Jack Invest More in Real Estate? 01:03:45 - Multifamily, Commercial & Where the Wealth Transfer Is Coming 01:05:08 - Will AI Make Houses Cheaper? The K-Shaped Housing Future 01:06:21 - Michael's Returns: Infinite ROI After Cash-Out Refis 01:07:11 - Rent Control & Why It Destroys Cities 01:09:11 - Markets to Avoid & Markets Worth Hunting 01:10:41 - The Anti-Landlord Movement & The Loss of Hope 01:14:04 - Confronting Graham: Why Won't You Spend More? 01:15:49 - The Bill Perkins Argument & Shifting From Saving to Spending 01:17:46 - Graham's 2% Rule (And Why He Still Won't Spend It) 01:20:52 - The Cruise Ship Lesson: Billionaires Who Worked Too Long 01:22:18 - The Business Class Debate That Won't End 01:29:42 - Feedback for Jack & Graham on the Podcast 01:32:51 - Where Iced Coffee Hour Is Headed Next 01:37:31 - ExtraDollar Launch & Wrap-Up 𝗖𝗹𝗶𝗽𝘀 𝗖𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗹: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheIcedCoffeeHourClips 𝗫.𝗰𝗼𝗺: https://x.com/TheICHpodcast 𝗧𝗶𝗸𝗧𝗼𝗸: https://www.tiktok.com/@theicedcoffeehour 𝗦𝗽𝗼𝘁𝗶𝗳𝘆: https://open.spotify.com/show/5c2uoXBQkOjIiCOf60jJj7 𝗔𝗽𝗽𝗹𝗲: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-iced-coffee-hour/id1515070058 For sponsorships or business inquiries reach out to: icedcoffeehourpartnerships@gmail.com Apply for The Index Membership: https://entertheindex.com/ For Podcast Inquiries, please DM @icedcoffeehour on Instagram! *Some of the links and other products that appear on…

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