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507. What it Takes to Win in the Most Public Forum with Camille Vasquez
· 26 min · S7 E507
Episode 507. What it Takes to Win in the Most Public Forum with Camille Vasquez
What’s the one excuse you’ve been giving yourself long enough that you’ve started believing it?
As part of the “Road to the Summit,” a special series ramping up to the 2026 Game Changers Summit this November 11-12, we’re revisiting some of the most powerful conversations ever featured at our events. In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, we’re throwing it back to the 2022 Game Changers Summit, where Camille Vasquez, litigation attorney best known for her work on the high-profile defamation trial between Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, took the stage for a conversation with Jessica Mogill.
Camille Vasquez had tried about five jury trials before she found herself at the center of one of the biggest courtroom stories in recent memory. She shares how preparation, teamwork, and listening carried her through, and how life changed once the whole world knew her name.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
• Why overpreparing builds confidence when you are underestimated • How teamwork and active listening hold up under intense pressure • What it takes to protect your reputation in the court of public opinion
Whether or not cameras are ever in your courtroom, your reputation is being judged outside of it.
(00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:14) Why Camille chose law (00:03:07) Authenticity wins with juries (00:04:08) Learning from Robert Shapiro (00:07:18) Joining the Depp trial (00:08:33) Teamwork under pressure (00:12:16) Cross-examining Amber Heard (00:13:50) Why she never feared losing (00:14:45) How fame changed her life (00:16:52) Using criticism as fuel (00:17:50) The court of public opinion (00:19:18) What’s next and giving back (00:20:53) What keeps her going (00:22:45) Landing a high-profile case (00:24:34) What being a game changer means
Links & Resources:
• Camille Vasquez • Johnny Depp • Amber Heard • Depp v. Heard • Robert Shapiro • O.J. Simpson murder case • Laura Wasser
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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.
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Links in the notes 11
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camille_Vasquez
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Depp
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Heard
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depp_v._Heard
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Shapiro_(lawyer)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O._J._Simpson_murder_case
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Wasser
- https://www.youtube.com/@CrispGrowth
- https://crisp.co/podcast/episode-305-john-morgan/
- https://crisp.co/podcast/episode-297-ken-feinberg/
- https://crisp.co/podcast/episode-296-competitive-edge/
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