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Richer Soul, The Diamonds at Your Feet (interview podcast)
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Episode Richer Soul, The Diamonds at Your Feet (interview podcast)
What a Therapist, Physicist, and Lifelong Explorer Taught Me About Awareness, Value, and the Life You’re Already Living
Richer Soul Podcast • Episode 493 • Lincoln Stoller
There is a particular kind of frustration that belongs almost exclusively to successful people. It is not the frustration of not having enough. It is the frustration of having done everything right and still sensing, quietly and persistently, that something is missing.
If you have felt that, this conversation is for you.
Lincoln Stoller is a therapist, physicist, former software entrepreneur, and one of the most genuinely wide-ranging thinkers I have had on Richer Soul. He has spent a decade mountaineering, lived in Mongolia, the Caribbean, the jungle, and Manhattan, built and lost businesses, practiced therapy across the full spectrum of human experience, and written a book on dream work as a path to inner transformation. He is 70 years old and still confounded by the most important questions. That, as you will hear, is exactly the point.
What follows are the insights from our conversation that I think are worth writing down.
The Real Currency Is Value, Not Money
Lincoln grew up in a household where money was present but never discussed as a primary pursuit. His father was an architectural photographer. His mother was a painter. Money existed as a resource, not a goal, and that framing, absorbed early and almost unconsciously, shaped everything that followed. He put it plainly in our conversation:
“I don’t care about quantity of money. I care about quality of value. Hell with money, it’s all about value.”
This is not a rejection of financial responsibility. Lincoln bought houses, ran a software company for two decades, and managed his own finances from the time he was a teenager funding mountaineering expeditions. But the orientation was always toward what a thing was worth in terms of insight, experience, and growth, not what it could be exchanged for.
For high achievers operating in a world that measures almost everything in financial terms, this is a quiet but significant reframe. The question is not how much you are making. The question is what value you are actually generating and receiving in your life, in your relationships, in your work, and in your inner world. Those are not always the same number.
Awareness Is the Diagnosis Most People Never Receive
If there is a single thread that runs through everything Lincoln said, it is awareness. He returned to it again and again, not as a buzzword but as a genuine clinical and philosophical anchor.
“What are you aware of? Are you even aware of what’s outside your window? Are you aware of your role in creating and establishing the things you call problems?”
This landed hard for me, because in my work with entrepreneurs and high achievers, I see the same pattern constantly. People who are brilliant at executing strategies they have chosen but almost entirely blind to the fact that they chose those strategies, and to the role their own choices are playing in the outcomes they are unhappy about. They treat their circumstances like weather. Something that happens to them, not something they are participating in creating.
Lincoln’s framework is direct: awareness precedes everything. You cannot change what you cannot see. And most of us, trained by educational systems and professional cultures that reward output over introspection, have never been seriously asked to develop the skill of looking honestly at ourselves.
This is not a moral failure. It is a gap in training. But once you name it, it becomes very hard to unsee.
What Education Was Actually Designed to Do
Lincoln has strong views on formal education, and they are grounded in history, not cynicism. He traces the origins of public schooling to 19th-century Prussia, where the explicit goal was to prepare a population for industrial participation: enough reading, writing, and arithmetic to run machines and organizations. What it was never…
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