That Heifer Nancy Reagan Loved D.A.R.E. with Ms. Pat

29 Sep 2026 · 1 h 03 min

Episode That Heifer Nancy Reagan Loved D.A.R.E. with Ms. Pat

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The iconic stand-up comedian Ms. Pat makes her debut on Scam Goddess. Laci tries to gently break the news that the D.A.R.E. program was designed by the same man who was in charge when Rodney King was beaten by the police and who invented SWAT. Ms. Pat discusses sharing a Sears credit card, past scheming, and Smokey the Bear.

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Ms. Pat: @comediennemspat

Laci Mosley: @divalaci

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SOURCES

https://www.instagram.com/p/DQ2isCBlVhw/

https://www.publicbooks.org/dare-is-more-than-just-anti-drug-education-it-is-police-propaganda/

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/09/1211217460/fentanyl-drug-education-dare

https://www.silvermistrecovery.com/the-downfall-of-d-a-r-e-how-a-failed-program-shaped-substance-use-trends/

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/dope/dare/truth.html

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1448384/

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09687637.2016.1208731

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-09-09-mn-33226-story.html

https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/09/dare-history-police-surveillance-schools.html

https://priceonomics.com/dare-the-anti-drug-program-that-never-actually/

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/dare-program-reshape-image-police-officers

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