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For Real, Though
Tina Muir, Ryan Montgomery
300 episodes
Join Ryan and Tina as they explore their friendship, training journeys, and aspirations in ultra running, marathons, and trail racing. This podcast sets the tone for an authentic, deep, and sometimes humorous look at their lives and goals.
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Episode 1: Strava's Reverse Psychology and Tina's Gross Backpack
Our ground rules: • we will get off topic • we argue and pick fights with each other • we swear • we are intentionally provocative (and have to work through disagreements to get to the next level of relationship)…
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Introducing: For Real, Though
Come join two friends being honest, funny and real about running. Our ground rules: • we will get off topic • we argue and pick fights with each other • we swear • we are intentionally provocative (and have to work…
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Tina Muir: End of an Era - R4R 439
Tina has been a podcast host for a decade; first on Runners Connect's "Run to the Top," then since 2017 on her own award-winning show, "Running for Real." Inspiring interviews and deep friendships have come out of the…
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Kelly Roberts: If You Lose Joy, We've Lost the Battle- R4R 438
Kelly Roberts has inspired other runners by sharing her running journey online since long before the word "influencer" entered the popular lexicon. In Tina's final interview before "Running for Real" goes on hiatus,…
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Alex Hutchinson: Dream Big and Take Chances - R4R 437
For many writers, the logical followup to a successful book is a sequel. For Alex Hutchinson, it was his reluctance to go down that path that led to his new book, "The Explorer's Gene: Why We Seek Big Challenges, New…
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Lauren Bash: A Deep Desire to Be Useful - R4R 436
Many people identify themselves as climate activists, but not many would call themselves climate optimists - especially not now. Lauren Bash, however, still finds reasons to be hopeful, and offers ways to combat the…
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Jeffrey McEachern: The Only Way Out Is Through - R4R 435
Ten years ago Jeffrey McEachern found himself at a point in his life where he knew things had to change. He found happiness and purpose through running, became a Peloton instructor, just earned his Six Star Medal at…
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Danny Peter Smith: One Day I'm Going to Do That - R4R 434
There's a time before a race when the crowd settles down and is quiet for a few minutes - during the singing of the national anthem. At last year's TCS New York City Marathon, that honor was given to Danny Peter Smith.…
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Steve Magness: Do Real Things in the Real World with Real People - R4R 433
As runners, we're always trying to go faster or further because those metrics demonstrate how successful we are. But in his new book, "Win the Inside Game: How to Move from Surviving to Thriving, and Free Yourself Up…
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Olivia Baker: Have Fun - R4R 432
Olivia Baker is a serious runner - her achievements at the high school, collegiate, and professional levels attest to that. She never loses sight of the fact that there's much more to running than the results on paper…
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Erin Ton: The Only One Climbing Mountains in Heels - R4R 431
Erin Ton holds 91 FKTs (Fastest Known Times), a feat surpassed by only one other woman. In 2023, she returned to the mountains where she first hiked with her family as a child, and summited 57 of Colorado's Fourteeners…
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Erin Taylor: Rest Is a Power Stance - R4R 430
Erin Taylor has been teaching yoga for over twenty years, helping high-performing athletes to excel at their sport. She's taken what she's learned from training Olympians and Ironman champions and applied it to other…
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Tina Muir: Be Gentle with Yourself - R4R 429B
As you'll hear, as of recording, Tina is under the weather. So she's following the advice that she gives others and being gentle with herself. We'll be back with a full episode next week! For complete show notes and…
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Tina Muir: Going Green In 2025 - R4R 429
Every year at this time, we're inundated with lists of Things To Do In The New Year. They can be intimidating, and make us feel as though if we don't accomplish them all, we've failed. This isn't one of those lists.…
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Tina Muir: Year End Reflections - R4R 428
As we come to the end of 2024, Tina is looking back on the year that was and looking forward to an exciting 2025! For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode428. Thank you to…
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Cheryl Toussaint: As Long as There's a Solution, You're Good - R4R 427
Cheryl Toussaint knows the importance of a mentor in young people's lives. She was just thirteen when she met running coach Fred Thompson, who insisted that his teenage athletes pursue excellence not only on the track,…
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Nadia Ruiz: You Can Get Here, Too - R4R 426
Nadia Ruiz was only 14 when she ran her first marathon. Since then she's run 158 more (with 82 BQs), 136 half marathons, 13 half Ironmen, five full Ironmen, multiple ultras… Her parents are her inspiration to share her…
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Mike Africa, Jr.: Happiness Is a Choice - R4R 425
Live Aid was THE event of 1985. The concert to raise money for famine relief in Ethiopia, viewed by 40 percent of the world's population, was broadcast live from London and… not New York, not Los Angeles, but…
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Election Day - R4R 424
As we all know, Tuesday was Election Day in the United States. It's the foremost thing on many people's minds, including Tina's. Rather than a regular interview episode, she's sharing her feelings and thoughts about…
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Rob Simmelkjaer: The Transformative Power of Running - R4R 423
In a 1980s TV commercial, Sy Sperling declared, "I'm not only the Hair Club president; I'm also a client." That, Rob Simmelkjaer says, describes his role as CEO of New York Road Runners. He hosts NYRR's podcast, "Set…
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Courtney Phillips-Manning: GumboFit, The Runner's Club… and Beyond - R4R 422
When there is an opportunity for Courtney Phillips-Manning to share knowledge, especially knowledge that will benefit her community, she seizes - or creates - it. That led her to co-found Chicago's GumboFit run club,…
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Quinton Jacobs: It's Like a Buffet - R4R 421
There have been times in Quinton Jacobs' running life when he chased PRs and qualifying times. Those were physical seasons. He's also had mental health and adventure seasons, and seasons of running through other…
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Nicole Teeny: Racing Against Horses - R4R 420
Filmmaker and distance runner Nicole Teeny had an unusual item on her bucket list - to race against horses. But when she was diagnosed with epilepsy, she was told that the running part of her life was over. Instead of…
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David Roche: Shoot Your Shot - R4R 419
David Roche smashed the 19-year-old course record at the Leadville Trail 100 Run this year. It was the first time that he'd run 100 miles, and even more incredibly, only months after a very different kind of smash. In…
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Adam Popp: Embracing Challenges and Breaking Records - R4R 418
Adam Popp's life changed when he lost his right leg above the knee while working to disarm a roadside bomb in Afghanistan. He also lost his sense of purpose, until he started running. 19 months after taking his first…
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Kylee Van Horn & Zoë Rom: Your Diet Sucks - R4R 417
Nutrition is a serious topic, but that doesn't mean it can't be entertaining. On their podcast,"Your Diet Sucks," Kylee Van Horn and Zoë Rom, both endurance athletes, bring humor and curiosity to their examination of…
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Rahsaan "New York" Thomas: When the Law Changes, It Changes for Everyone - R4R 416
In the documentary "26.2 TO LIFE," Rahsaan "New York" Thomas inspired audiences as he trained to run a marathon behind the walls of San Quentin Prison. He wasn't only preparing for a race; he was working to become the…
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Six Missing / TJ Dumser: You Can't Be Anywhere Else but on the Run - R4R 415
Recording as Six Missing, ambient artist TJ Dumser creates music that encourages mindfulness and positive lifestyle habits. He combined both practices through running, but a few years ago, he lost both his love of the…
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Stefanie Flippin: This Sport Is Not a Solo Sport - R4R 414
Stefanie Flippin is one of the fastest women in the world at the 100 mile distance, but she isn't exclusively a record-setting ultra runner. She's also a running coach, writer, co-host of the "Making Strides" podcast,…
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Jessie Zapo: Every Pace Has a Place - R4R 413
Jessie Zapo is passionate about creating a space for all runners, and especially about bringing women into the sport. Under her leadership, the adidas Runners community in the US has evolved to be over 60% female, with…
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Drew Petersen: Paying It Forward - R4R 412
When Drew Petersen ran the Leadville 100 in 2022, he had a mantra written on each hand: "Feel It All" and "Celebrate." The first one became the title of his new documentary. Feel It All chronicles Drew's journey from…
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Aly Criscuolo: Don't Be Afraid to Dream Big - R4R 411
As Sustainability & Corporate Social Responsibility Director at New York Road Runners, Aly Criscuolo is able to channel her passion for environmentalism into positive action. She's clearly making an impact; NYRR's…
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Tina: Summer Update - R4R 410
Summer is the time for taking a break from work! Tina went to Colorado with her family, so instead of recording an interview for this week, she's sharing some updates on what's been going on and what's coming up in her…
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Madeleine Orr: Climate Action as a Team Sport - R4R 409
July 21, 2024 was recorded as the hottest day ever globally. The record was broken the next day, a fact which will come as no surprise to runners. They experience the consequences of climate change daily as they log…
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Adrian Octavius Walker: Always Be a Student - R4R 408
In 1998, the groundbreaking artist Gordon Parks brought 177 rappers and hip hop artists, some of them rivals, together for his photograph, "A Great Day in Hip Hop." When it was included in an exhibit at the St. Louis…
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Robert Jackson: Put Your Goals Out There - R4R 407
Many people attempt to qualify for the Boston Marathon for years before they succeed, and many more never achieve that goal. Robert Jackson BQ'd with his first marathon, and this year he not only ran the iconic race…
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Izzy Seidel: It's Not All Roses and Daisies - R4R 406
If you've recognized your running self in a raccoon meme, you've seen the work of Izzy Seidel. She's the founder of the Sad Girl Track Club on Instagram and Strava, and a content creator for running brands, a skill she…
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Maggie Mertens: Better Faster Farther - R4R 405
Hard as it may be for young women today to comprehend, this summer will mark only the 11th time that a women's marathon has been held at the Olympic Games. Had women been allowed to participate just two Olympics…
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Isaiah Stofferahn: Nobody Wants to Be a Quitter - R4R 404
Isaiah Stofferahn's 10 million+ followers know that he's up for almost any kind of challenge. Lately he's been focusing on running, whether that's racing a marathon in Crocs or taking on his DoorDash driver in a…
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Alex Hermanson: Nobody's Looking at You - R4R 403
When Alex Hermanson, a.k.a. "Herm Runs," started following other runners on social media, "I didn't really see anyone that I personally related with wholeheartedly," he recalls. "So I was like, 'I'm just going to go…
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Tyler Swartz: It's Not That Serious - R4R 402
Tyler Swartz believes that running should be fun, and that it's more fun when you're part of a community. That's why he founded Endorphins Running, "to inspire and empower people to live happier and more fulfilled…
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Haglund's Deformity in Runners - R4R 401
After being diagnosed with Haglund's Deformity, Tina wrestled with how to treat the debilitating pain. After doing extensive research and exhausting the more conservative options, she decided to have surgery. Now she's…
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Dan Churchill: Get the Reps In - R4R 400
Chef Dan Churchill uses food as a way to inspire people to live the best life possible. He has a Masters in Exercise Science and was a strength and conditioning coach before switching his focus to nutrition. His recipe…
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Tina Update - R4R 399
Tina ran her first ultra, the Bryce Canyon 50 Miler, a year ago. She finished first female and third overall, and felt good afterwards, except for one thing - her heel. She learned that she had a Haglund's Deformity…
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Andrea Lytle Peet & Jen Cox: "Hope" Is a Pretty Badass Word - R4R 398
Andrea Lytle Peet went from completing a half Ironman to needing a cane to walk, less than six months later. She was ultimately diagnosed with ALS, at the age of 33. Doctors told her that she had two to five years to…
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Lorna Mann: The "Why" Will Connect You - R4R 397
Cheering on others as they pursue their goals means more to Lorna Mann than her own accomplishments. It's a mindset that she attributes to the encouragement of Charlie Dark and the Run Dem Crew. Now she mentors others,…
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Tiffany K. Martin: Not Just For Runners - R4R 396
Tiffany K. Martin believes that "health" is about much more than the traditional elements of healthcare. She recognized that the existing system doesn't adequately address the needs of many people, and so she founded…
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Roberto Mandje: Running Meets You Where You Are - R4R 395
Roberto Mandje believes in meeting people where they are, which is also where he believes running will meet you. His philosophy stems from his multi-cultural upbringing and his professional running career, when he…
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Mikah Meyer: A Walk in the Park. ALL the Parks. - R4R 394
Mikah Meyer is the first person to experience all 419 U.S. National Park Service sites in a single journey. He also made a different kind of history along the way, becoming the first openly gay man featured in an…
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Fiona O'Keeffe: Imperfect Advocacy - R4R 393
Fiona O'Keeffe raced into the record books in the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials this year. In her debut at the distance, she smashed the previous record, set by Shalane Flanagan in 2012, by over three minutes. She also…
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