Podcasts · Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can Defense in Depth Work for AI? (with Adam Gleave)
· 1 h 19 min
Episode Can Defense in Depth Work for AI? (with Adam Gleave)
Adam Gleave is co-founder and CEO of FAR.AI. In this cross-post from The Cognitive Revolution Podcast, he joins to discuss post-AGI scenarios and AI safety challenges. The conversation explores his three-tier framework for AI capabilities, gradual disempowerment concerns, defense-in-depth security, and research on training less deceptive models. Topics include timelines, interpretability limitations, scalable oversight techniques, and FAR.AI’s vertically integrated approach spanning technical research, policy advocacy, and field-building.
LINKS: Adam Gleave - https://www.gleave.me FAR.AI - https://www.far.ai The Cognitive Revolution Podcast - https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai
PRODUCED BY:
https://aipodcast.ing
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) A Positive Post-AGI Vision (10:07) Surviving Gradual Disempowerment (16:34) Defining Powerful AIs (27:02) Solving Continual Learning (35:49) The Just-in-Time Safety Problem (42:14) Can Defense-in-Depth Work? (49:18) Fixing Alignment Problems (58:03) Safer Training Formulas (01:02:24) The Role of Interpretability (01:09:25) FAR.AI's Vertically Integrated Approach (01:14:14) Hiring at FAR.AI (01:16:02) The Future of Governance
SOCIAL LINKS:
Website: https://podcast.futureoflife.org
Twitter (FLI): https://x.com/FLI_org
Twitter (Gus): https://x.com/gusdocker
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/future-of-life-institute/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-rCCy3FQ-GItDimSR9lhzw/
Apple: https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/id1170991978
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2Op1WO3gwVwCrYHg4eoGyP
Links in the notes 11
- https://www.gleave.me
- https://www.far.ai
- https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai
- https://aipodcast.ing
- https://podcast.futureoflife.org
- https://x.com/FLI_org
- https://x.com/gusdocker
- https://www.linkedin.com/company/future-of-life-institute/
- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-rCCy3FQ-GItDimSR9lhzw/
- https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/id1170991978
- https://open.spotify.com/show/2Op1WO3gwVwCrYHg4eoGyP
Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. Every show and episode belongs to its publisher and plays from the publisher's own feed; this site hosts none of them. Explicit shows are for adult profiles only, and children’s profiles hear only children’s shows. More about this list.