# Lighter Darker | Episode 2 | "Transformers One with Josh Cooley"

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In Episode 2 of the #LighterDarker podcast, the team welcomes #TransformersOne director Josh Cooley to talk about combining heart and humor in his filmmaking. Josh also shares the story of getting his dream shot at ​⁠Pixar, working on Toy Story 4, and how he almost had a very different career path!

Chapter Markers \[00:00:00\] Intro \[00:01:41\] Questions from the mailbag \[00:04:46\] What is virtual production? \[00:13:00\] Rejection letters \[00:17:05\] Humor and heart in animation \[00:33:15\] The Martini \[00:39:21\] Outro

Episode Links Josh Cooley - IMDb https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2155757/?ref_=tt_ov_dr Joe Ranft - IMDb https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0710020/ Toy Story 4 (2019) - IMDb https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1979376/?ref_=nm_flmg_knf_t_1 Transformers One (2024) - IMDb https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8864596/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1_tt_7_nm_0_in_0_q_transformers%2520one

The Martini

Rob (and the rest of the internet) is obsessed with the Star Tours StarSpeeder Play Set https://wdwnt.com/2024/09/starspeeder-3000-vehicle-d23-dhs/

2005 Star Tours - Original - Disneyland Anaheim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw09wFwhaEM&t=353s

Jenny scrambled to come up with something last minute because Rob stole her martini (see above). She is reading Wuthering Heights by Emily Brontë | Goodreads https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6185.Wuthering_Heights and obsessing over the Oxford comma debate. What Is the Oxford Comma (or Serial Comma)? | Grammarly. https://www.grammarly.com/blog/what-is-the-oxford-comma-and-why-do-people-care-so-much-about-it/

Yes, she is boring.

Josh is staying true to the current Transformers hype by adopting a Flagship Optimus Prime from Robosen. https://www.robosen.com/us/flagship-optimus-prime

Featured Music The Lighter Darker theme was created by Khatsho Orfali. This episode features music by Ben Charles aka Chromasy.

Questions Email us at lighterdarker@ilm.com

Transcript https://www.ilm.com/transcripts/s1e2-transformers-one-with-josh-cooley/

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- Series: [Lighter Darker](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/library/rights-holders/series/186073a4d615)
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- Length: 41 min
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