# What is “Topping/Bottoming” for Lesbians? (w/ Award-Winning Writer Carmen Machado) | WHGS Ep. 323

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This episode is all about theory, listener! Carmen Maria Machado is an author, essayist, and finalist for the National Book Award with her impressive body of work around queer identity, but today she’s in the apartment to put her genius towards solving age-old queer conundrums! We discuss topping vs. bottoming as a lesbian, what that actually entails, how it manifests in practice, and the Renaissance Faire. Ashley and Jen accidentally ask a man for a threeway. Lizzy experiences cinematic heartbreak.

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