# Spencer Hall on Lane Kiffin & LSU's major mistake, Pressure on Alabama & Ohio State, College Football's playoff problem | 12.02

An episode of [The Right Time with Bomani Jones](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/982639043), 2 Dec 2025, 53 min.

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In this episode, Bomani Jones and Spencer Hall discuss LSU hiring Lane Kiffin & whether both parties will regret this decision. Later, they break down other coaching carousel news and why the current college football calendar makes no sense. Finally, they discuss the pressure on Kalen DeBoer & Alabama Football ahead of the SEC title game and the lack of pressure on Ryan Day & Ohio State. 02:45 - Lane Kiffin wants to ride the tiger 22:00 - Other College Football coaching moves 30:00 - What's going to happen if Alabama loses 38:00 - Ohio State vs. Indiana: Who cares? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:05] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
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[0:20] Speaker 1: a hater. It is one of those times of the
[0:22] Speaker 1: week where we have a guest join us. He is
[0:24] Speaker 1: the best college football writer in America. Check him out
[0:27] Speaker 1: at Channel 6 and other places. Spencer Hall, what's going on?
[0:31] Speaker 2: What's going on, sir? There's nothing happening. I mean, I
[0:34] Speaker 2: don't know why you would have me on at this
[0:36] Speaker 2: point on December 2nd.
[0:38] Speaker 1: Hey, look, man, we got to hurry up and get
[0:39] Speaker 1: this done so we can go watch this Diddy movie
[0:41] Speaker 1: that 50 made.
[0:44] Speaker 3: I don't have any shame in admitting. I can't wait.
[0:47] Speaker 1: And it's all these people who are like, yeah, well,
[0:49] Speaker 1: he just doing this because he don't like Diddy.
[0:52] Speaker 3: The only reason I'm watching is because I don't like Diddy.
[0:55] Speaker 2: Let's go. We all have appointment viewing. You have that.
[0:58] Speaker 2: I have to go to Zach Fox's TikTok account and
[1:01] Speaker 2: just see how many times he's retweeted Kevin Gates singing
[1:04] Speaker 2: beefing with my chick while I'm in jail. I don't
[1:06] Speaker 2: know if you know this. He's retweeted it like 50
[1:09] Speaker 2: times in different variations, and I can't stop hearing Kevin
[1:12] Speaker 2: Gates in my head. So we should get to this
[1:15] Speaker 2: because we both have things to do after.
[1:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just want to say this one thing
[1:18] Speaker 1: about 50 Cent is for all the terrible things there
[1:20] Speaker 1: are to say about him, and they are terrible, one
[1:22] Speaker 1: thing the man is not is.
[1:24] Speaker 2: Insincere, right?
[1:25] Speaker 1: Like, I watched him sit down in that interview with
[1:27] Speaker 1: the director, and you know what he's thinking?
[1:29] Speaker 3: I put this black woman on, you know.
[1:30] Speaker 1: And he's sitting there, and they're talking to Robert Roberts,
[1:32] Speaker 1: and he takes that quiet tone and talks about the
[1:35] Speaker 1: seriousness of the matter, and he was just like, look, man,
[1:37] Speaker 1: I'm just telling y'all. The man asked me if I, basically,
[1:40] Speaker 1: he's like, he asked me if I wanted to go
[1:42] Speaker 1: shopping with him, and I knew what time it was.
[1:44] Speaker 1: I knew he was trying to be, and I ain't
[1:46] Speaker 1: been cool with him ever since. So yeah, I'm making
[1:48] Speaker 1: a movie about it.
[1:49] Speaker 2: You know, there's survival instincts. You only get from surviving
[1:53] Speaker 2: a violent shooting. And I think that's, I think that's
[1:56] Speaker 2: one thing we've learned about 50 is that if he
[1:59] Speaker 2: leaves the room, it's time for you to go to. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.
[2:02] Speaker 3: Yep.
[2:03] Speaker 2: Yep. This is what it is.
[2:03] Speaker 1: I was hanging out with somebody that some people in
[2:06] Speaker 1: this show would be familiar with. He was with his
[2:08] Speaker 1: girl and he was talking about how they was somewhere
[2:10] Speaker 1: in Atlanta and And he saw some dude walk in
[2:12] Speaker 1: and he was like, he's about to shoot up the place.
[2:13] Speaker 3: Let's go.
[2:14] Speaker 1: And he got out and that woman looked at him
[2:16] Speaker 1: in front of us and said, and you know, that
[2:18] Speaker 1: was the day that I realized that there was something
[2:19] Speaker 1: about you. She was, she was 100% like, yeah, this
[2:27] Speaker 1: is the kind of man I need in my life.
[2:29] Speaker 3: Just in case you're wondering what they love.
[2:33] Speaker 2: This gas station is no longer a safe space. We
[2:35] Speaker 2: got to go. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
[2:38] Speaker 3: All right, Lane Kiffin is now the coach at.
[2:41] Speaker 2: LSU, right? That happened. That happened. He's there. That did happen.
[2:45] Speaker 3: He is there.
[2:49] Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I've heard not a
[2:51] Speaker 1: word about candidate number two.
[2:54] Speaker 2: For this job.
[2:55] Speaker 3: LSU decided that they wanted Lane.
[2:58] Speaker 1: They talked about how they was never going to give
[3:00] Speaker 1: out a contract like they gave out before. Not only
[3:03] Speaker 1: are they giving him a contract like the one before LSU,
[3:06] Speaker 1: They're going to pay him bonuses.
[3:08] Speaker 3: If Ole Miss were to win a national.
[3:09] Speaker 1: Championship, Lane Kiffin's owed a million dollars in his contract,
[3:12] Speaker 1: and LSU is going to give him the million dollars.
[3:16] Speaker 1: They have handed the keys over to him, and I
[3:20] Speaker 1: don't think anybody has really properly stopped to ask the question,
[3:23] Speaker 1: is this a good idea for LSU?
[3:26] Speaker 2: Well, first of all, let's congratulate Jeff Landry on some
[3:29] Speaker 2: extreme politicianing, some extreme politician speak by being like, we're
[3:34] Speaker 2: going to do contracts that are different. We're not going
[3:36] Speaker 2: to do all this appeasement and we're not going to
[3:40] Speaker 2: just give coaches what they want. Then Lane rolled up
[3:42] Speaker 2: and he's like, keys to the castle, baby. Yes.
[3:46] Speaker 3: For Lane.
[3:47] Speaker 2: Take them. For Lane, a guy who, if I may
[3:51] Speaker 2: remind you, has won championships as an assistant and has
[3:57] Speaker 2: won with Florida Atlantic. Yes. So we have, and yes,
[4:03] Speaker 2: Full credit to everything that happened at Ole Miss. That
[4:06] Speaker 2: is the best run at Ole Miss history. He is
[4:08] Speaker 2: the best coach in Ole Miss history. Do not throw
[4:10] Speaker 2: John Vaught in my face. Not everyone was eligible to
[4:13] Speaker 2: play those games. I didn't get to see the full
[4:15] Speaker 2: capacity of those things. His name's on the stadium. Doesn't
[4:18] Speaker 2: have to be on the statue outside. If they were
[4:20] Speaker 2: going to build one, it would be from Lane. He
[4:22] Speaker 2: is the only guy with an 11-win season there. 10, 11,
[4:25] Speaker 2: and 10. Phenomenal run there. Maybe his best work. And
[4:29] Speaker 2: I think what will be his best work because... I
[4:32] Speaker 2: think this LSU gig is now completely complicated by simply
[4:38] Speaker 2: by how he came in and by the circumstances of
[4:42] Speaker 2: the game as it exists now. So.
[4:48] Speaker 1: The Ole Miss thing is interesting because it is the
[4:50] Speaker 1: best run, and I made a mistake last show. I
[4:52] Speaker 1: said that Lane did not have a big win at
[4:54] Speaker 1: Ole Miss, and that's not true because they did beat
[4:56] Speaker 1: Georgia last year.
[4:57] Speaker 2: Listen, they beat Georgia.
[4:58] Speaker 1: Other than that, big win for Lane ever, I believe,
[5:02] Speaker 1: is the 2011 year against Oregon where they pulled one
[5:07] Speaker 1: out at the end of the year while they were
[5:09] Speaker 1: somewhat in the throes of probation.
[5:11] Speaker 2: Okay?
[5:12] Speaker 1: So my bad. He has won two games worth discussing
[5:15] Speaker 1: in the last 15 years.
[5:17] Speaker 3: My fault. My fault. I owe you an apology, Lane.
[5:21] Speaker 3: You've got those two.
[5:22] Speaker 1: However, if you are lining up the best coaches in
[5:26] Speaker 1: the SEC, just putting their names on the list, I'm
[5:29] Speaker 1: not even necessarily saying where does he stand on the list.
[5:33] Speaker 1: I'm asking you how many of those coaches can you
[5:36] Speaker 1: definitively say Lane Kiffin is a better coach than insert
[5:42] Speaker 1: name here.
[5:43] Speaker 3: And buddy, I don't know, given that.
[5:47] Speaker 1: Mississippi State's coach is actually kind of sort of the
[5:50] Speaker 1: shadow coach and the actual coach is actually a really.
[5:54] Speaker 3: Good coach, bad guy. Who you got?
[5:58] Speaker 1: I don't have anybody that I am positive in this
[6:01] Speaker 1: conference that Lane Kiffin is a better coach than.
[6:03] Speaker 2: I'm a little higher on him than you are.
[6:05] Speaker 3: Okay, but tell me positively. Is he positively better than Beamer?
[6:11] Speaker 2: Than Beamer? Yes. Okay. Okay.
[6:14] Speaker 3: Is he positively better than Hypel?
[6:18] Speaker 4: No. No.
[6:20] Speaker 2: And I will say this, too. I think Hypel's a
[6:22] Speaker 2: better org guy. I think that is underrated, the gig
[6:28] Speaker 2: that he has done at Tennessee and the culture that
[6:29] Speaker 2: he has built. Because when was the last time, I'll
[6:32] Speaker 2: make this brief, when was the last time you heard, man,
[6:34] Speaker 2: Tennessee's got a problem player, or Tennessee has a culture? Nope. Nope.
[6:39] Speaker 2: That is a kumbaya group that gets results at a
[6:41] Speaker 2: place that is harder to succeed at than people think
[6:43] Speaker 2: so yes next all right.
[6:45] Speaker 1: Um is he positively better than eli at.
[6:51] Speaker 2: Missouri another underrated dude i think overall if i was
[6:55] Speaker 2: giving you one v one game lane is a better
[6:59] Speaker 2: play caller and he's going to be a tougher one-on-one
[7:02] Speaker 2: matchup if i'm extending this over if i'm giving you
[7:04] Speaker 2: a stock report right here's your money take your portfolio
[7:07] Speaker 2: to eli drinkwits and associates I would give it to
[7:10] Speaker 2: Drinkwits just based on the steady performance at a place that, again,
[7:12] Speaker 2: a little more difficult than people think.
[7:15] Speaker 1: But they're in the same neighborhood, and I'm just saying,
[7:16] Speaker 1: ain't nobody going through all this shit for Eli Drinkwitz.
[7:18] Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. The thing I give him credit for,
[7:23] Speaker 1: and you and I have talked about this for years
[7:24] Speaker 1: with Lane, I do appreciate that he doesn't make offense
[7:26] Speaker 1: more complicated than it has to be.
[7:28] Speaker 3: Hey, we got a dude, and I'm.
[7:29] Speaker 1: Going to give him the ball every time if I can.
[7:33] Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what position he plays. When it was
[7:35] Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, Amari Cooper damn near won a Heisman. When
[7:38] Speaker 1: it was Derrick Henry, he ran for 2,000 yards, and
[7:41] Speaker 1: he won a Heisman.
[7:42] Speaker 2: If you're the guy.
[7:43] Speaker 3: you're going to get the ball.
[7:45] Speaker 2: If he did this with Marquise Lee at USC, listen,
[7:49] Speaker 2: he did this with Jackson Dart. He did this with
[7:54] Speaker 2: Trinidad Chambliss. Did not matter that he was a Ferris
[7:57] Speaker 2: State transfer. Did not matter that he appeared to be
[8:01] Speaker 2: an FCS player. When he walked on the field, you go, wow,
[8:05] Speaker 2: that guy looks a little small. Doesn't matter. You're going
[8:07] Speaker 2: to touch the ball 53 times. It works. And he's
[8:09] Speaker 2: going to do it. So he doesn't make it harder
[8:11] Speaker 2: than it has to be. He puts players in a
[8:13] Speaker 2: position to succeed. Delegates much better than he used to.
[8:16] Speaker 2: At USC, the story was that Lane would not delegate,
[8:19] Speaker 2: and Lane would not let anyone touch any controls on offense.
[8:23] Speaker 2: He's a little bit better about that now, still calls plays,
[8:26] Speaker 2: but very good about delegating. And keeps it loose. Like,
[8:29] Speaker 2: that's as a program-wide, keeps it loose. We're all basically,
[8:34] Speaker 2: we're talking around, we're outlining the elephant in the room,
[8:37] Speaker 2: which is Lane. Which is... That's it. Right. Like every
[8:42] Speaker 2: question we asked today, Bo, every question we asked today
[8:45] Speaker 2: is going to be should work, should work, should work,
[8:47] Speaker 2: should work. But right. That's it. That's it. There's there's
[8:51] Speaker 2: kind of a mess there. And it's more it's complicated
[8:54] Speaker 2: now by. Well, there's a mess meeting a mess. And
[8:58] Speaker 2: in the middle, they're going to try to build a
[9:00] Speaker 2: football program together. And that that's going to be the
[9:05] Speaker 2: challenge here.
[9:06] Speaker 3: You're not going to convince me.
[9:08] Speaker 1: That the most attractive part of this job delaying Kiffin
[9:10] Speaker 1: was not the fact that it is fraught with drama. Like,
[9:14] Speaker 1: like you're not, you're not, you're, you're, you're not going to, now,
[9:16] Speaker 1: now one thing I will say though, one thing I
[9:17] Speaker 1: will say, you might bring it. It feels like bringing
[9:21] Speaker 1: it back should be on the board, right? Like it, it, it, it,
[9:24] Speaker 1: it should be at the top of the board actually.
[9:27] Speaker 2: Bo, would that be drama? Would that be drama? I
[9:30] Speaker 2: feel like that would be a good time. It'd be
[9:32] Speaker 2: a good time, but that'd be dramatic, right? That would
[9:34] Speaker 2: be a story. It would be dramatic. That means they're
[9:37] Speaker 2: going to do it. That means it's going to happen.
[9:39] Speaker 2: I'm going to give everybody a blueprint here, okay? Oh, man,
[9:42] Speaker 2: would Ed come back even though he was the head coach? Yeah. Yes.
[9:44] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[9:45] Speaker 2: You know, Lane wants it to happen, so it's going
[9:47] Speaker 2: to happen. They've handed him everything. Do you want, oh, hey,
[9:51] Speaker 2: would it be weird if Nick Saban were a consultant?
[9:54] Speaker 2: What if Nick were just off over here and we
[9:57] Speaker 2: just paid him to.
[9:58] Speaker 4: Be over here?
[9:59] Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be dramatic? Yeah, sure, they'll try to do it.
[10:02] Speaker 2: Whatever you name, if it's going to be a good
[10:04] Speaker 2: story and it's going to raise some eyebrows, Lane will
[10:07] Speaker 2: do it and LSU's just going to let him.
[10:11] Speaker 1: I just my my I don't know if complain is
[10:14] Speaker 1: the right word, but as coach.
[10:16] Speaker 2: Right.
[10:17] Speaker 1: He's not quite Lincoln Riley in the sense of, hey,
[10:19] Speaker 1: you know, we got to play some defense, too.
[10:21] Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
[10:22] Speaker 1: However, you know, you got to play some defense, too.
[10:25] Speaker 1: Like I I think you are you are. And I
[10:29] Speaker 1: mean this in the positive way, Florida, man. While Spencer
[10:34] Speaker 1: has the picture of Florida man, he does not have
[10:36] Speaker 1: the internal composition and constitution of Florida man, but we
[10:40] Speaker 1: talked about he's the spiritual successor to Spurrier. If there
[10:43] Speaker 1: was a job that was a fit, that is the one,
[10:45] Speaker 1: except it sounds like the AD of Florida was like, nah,
[10:47] Speaker 1: I ain't working with this clown.
[10:48] Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
[10:50] Speaker 1: Off the top, it was kind of like, I'm not
[10:51] Speaker 1: really trying to do this. I got to take this call,
[10:54] Speaker 1: but I'm not.
[10:55] Speaker 2: About that, the reason that did not happen, the primary reason,
[10:58] Speaker 2: besides the chalk and cheese relationship between Athletic director Scott
[11:02] Speaker 2: Strickland and Lane Kiffin did not get along. That was
[11:05] Speaker 2: a factor from what I've heard. Additionally, Florida has a GM.
[11:10] Speaker 2: We have GMs now. And now you have to do
[11:12] Speaker 2: the NFL thing where you go, does the throne get
[11:15] Speaker 2: along with the ex-checker? Does the treasury get along with
[11:18] Speaker 2: the presidency? Do the people doing the budgeting and the
[11:22] Speaker 2: talent prospecting, are they on the same page with the coach?
[11:25] Speaker 2: Right now, Florida has something which may be a problem
[11:27] Speaker 2: for them. They have a GM who operates co-equally with
[11:30] Speaker 2: the coach. And that is both report to the athletic director.
[11:34] Speaker 2: At LSU, that will not be the case. Lane did
[11:37] Speaker 2: not want that at Florida. He's going to take Ole Miss'
[11:39] Speaker 2: personnel guy, who, to be fair, if you look at
[11:42] Speaker 2: the number of people that they've prospected, that's probably one
[11:45] Speaker 2: of the dudes who had a hand in getting Trinidad Chambliss.
[11:47] Speaker 2: Probably one of the guys who built this roster that's
[11:49] Speaker 2: filled with talented, skilled players who all can do exactly
[11:52] Speaker 2: what they need them to do on offense, at least.
[11:55] Speaker 2: That's what Lane gets there. So that's a factor as well.
[11:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, and so.
[12:00] Speaker 3: We'll just see what kind of defense they play.
[12:04] Speaker 2: Well, yeah. One, got to get a new defensive coordinator
[12:07] Speaker 2: because Ole Miss is now in the hands of Pete Golding.
[12:10] Speaker 1: Hey, I told the people on the show on Monday
[12:15] Speaker 1: that I saw a picture of him, and they said
[12:18] Speaker 1: he was head coach. I was like, oh, that man
[12:19] Speaker 1: can't be the head coach, looking at that beard and
[12:22] Speaker 1: everything else. And I was like, oh, but maybe it's
[12:24] Speaker 1: just that picture. And then I went and looked up
[12:26] Speaker 1: more pictures.
[12:27] Speaker 4: Nope.
[12:27] Speaker 2: It just gets worse.
[12:28] Speaker 1: You can't make– I can't believe that man's the head
[12:30] Speaker 1: coach of anything. But I talked about this. I don't
[12:33] Speaker 1: know if anybody's followed up on it. I'm curious your thoughts.
[12:35] Speaker 1: But I don't think that what is discussed nearly enough
[12:37] Speaker 1: about the Ole Miss part is the staggering leverage that
[12:39] Speaker 1: all of those assistant coaches had in that moment as
[12:42] Speaker 1: they are trying to hold together what this season is.
[12:44] Speaker 1: You don't want to wind up like Florida State where
[12:46] Speaker 1: one thing went bad and you thought you were going
[12:48] Speaker 1: to the playoff and then nothing has been the same
[12:50] Speaker 1: since everybody decided they weren't going to do something.
[12:53] Speaker 2: Right? Right.
[12:53] Speaker 3: Right. Ole Miss, they got to hold it together.
[12:56] Speaker 1: And I think they, a few of those guys are
[12:58] Speaker 1: going to Ole Miss, but I mean to LSU, but
[13:01] Speaker 1: some of those guys are going to stay because they
[13:03] Speaker 1: have to, and they will be compensated handsomely for this.
[13:07] Speaker 2: They will. And they're going to get a nice two
[13:09] Speaker 2: to three year run out of this and we'll see
[13:12] Speaker 2: how it goes. I don't think I've ever heard anyone
[13:15] Speaker 2: saying Pete Golding was an obvious coaching candidate. That's let's
[13:20] Speaker 2: just remember that it's not like, Oh, up-and-coming assistant. You
[13:24] Speaker 2: know who that would be? That'd be Will Stein. Will
[13:26] Speaker 2: Stein just got the gig at Kentucky. Former Louisville quarterback
[13:29] Speaker 2: who was the offensive coordinator at Oregon. He is now
[13:32] Speaker 2: in charge of reviving the Kentucky program. I think he's
[13:35] Speaker 2: going to do that. He's very smart, very energetic. It'll
[13:37] Speaker 2: be cool. No one ever said that about Pete Golding.
[13:40] Speaker 2: Pete Golding was like Wizard of the Whiteboard. If you
[13:43] Speaker 2: say Wizard of the Whiteboard, that means you don't necessarily
[13:47] Speaker 2: want that guy in a press conference. No, no, no, no.
[13:50] Speaker 2: This is your brother, Bill Oliver type, right? This is
[13:52] Speaker 2: somebody who is going to be in the background. He's
[13:55] Speaker 2: going to be a staunch assistant, but now he's being
[13:58] Speaker 2: put in a role where he's going to be perhaps
[14:02] Speaker 2: out in the spotlight and maybe a bit uncomfortable at first.
[14:06] Speaker 2: And he's going to do this in a low pressure
[14:07] Speaker 2: situation called the college football playoff. There's your coaching debut.
[14:13] Speaker 2: You are in the college football playoff. You're not starting
[14:16] Speaker 2: up against like, you know, Weber state. That's not happening.
[14:19] Speaker 2: You're not starting off against Alcorn. You're debuting against heavy hitters.
[14:24] Speaker 2: So good luck, Pete, man. Good luck.
[14:27] Speaker 1: I'd also like to point out that he used to
[14:30] Speaker 1: be the defensive coordinator at Alabama. And then he was
[14:32] Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator at Ole Miss. And it's not because
[14:35] Speaker 1: he did such a great fucking job at Alabama.
[14:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[14:39] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[14:40] Speaker 2: Although, to be fair, to be fair, I will give
[14:42] Speaker 2: him this. That's late Saban. That's late Saban where maybe
[14:45] Speaker 2: the recruiting isn't quite the one-to-one fit at positions where
[14:50] Speaker 2: it once was. So I'm going to give him a
[14:53] Speaker 2: little latitude on that. He did a pretty good job
[14:55] Speaker 2: at Ole Miss. But if you were trying to take
[14:56] Speaker 2: somebody off that staff, that is not pick one. All right.
[14:59] Speaker 1: Now, this leads us to a good little transition here
[15:02] Speaker 1: because we're going to– I feel like all we can
[15:06] Speaker 1: say with Lane, honestly, at LSU is we're going to
[15:08] Speaker 1: see they're going to be the primary story in college football,
[15:11] Speaker 1: and I will give them this. Every other coach in
[15:13] Speaker 1: the country is bull ring, and Lane is not. Like,
[15:16] Speaker 1: I appreciate having somebody to viscerally despise in the way
[15:21] Speaker 1: that I realize that I despise this man with whom
[15:23] Speaker 1: I've only spoken one time.
[15:25] Speaker 2: But it is going to make things better.
[15:26] Speaker 1: The thing is, I kind of like LSU, because I
[15:28] Speaker 1: got a lot of friends that are around LSU.
[15:31] Speaker 3: And I don't know how I feel about this.
[15:32] Speaker 1: I sent Ryan Clark a text and said, you know,
[15:35] Speaker 1: I always hate it when a team I root for,
[15:38] Speaker 1: you know, brings on a clown. And we talked about it.
[15:40] Speaker 1: I said that to Marcus Spears, and I've got no reply.
[15:45] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[15:47] Speaker 3: I got to run this by Van and see what
[15:48] Speaker 3: he thinks.
[15:49] Speaker 2: No, he's already in. That's it.
[15:52] Speaker 3: You know why he's in?
[15:52] Speaker 1: Because there's no other option but to be in. No
[15:55] Speaker 1: matter who it is, no matter what it is, once
[15:57] Speaker 1: it happens, you got no choice but to be in.
[16:00] Speaker 3: And so they are going to be in until they
[16:03] Speaker 3: aren't in.
[16:04] Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, listen, everyone has to do this this time
[16:06] Speaker 2: of year. LSU, by the way, would have been in anyway.
[16:09] Speaker 2: If we had taken... Attila the Hun, and we had
[16:12] Speaker 2: made him head coach at LSU. Oh, man. I'm all
[16:16] Speaker 2: about the Magyar Empire. That's right. Down with the Hun.
[16:20] Speaker 2: I'm good with it. Yeah. If it had been Dracula,
[16:24] Speaker 2: they would have been thrilled. They would have been like,
[16:25] Speaker 2: that's why we play at night. That's why we play
[16:27] Speaker 2: at night. Yes.
[16:28] Speaker 3: Vampires for life.
[16:31] Speaker 2: LSU is just going to be in no matter what
[16:34] Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin does. Like to the point that that man
[16:36] Speaker 2: could shoot somebody. He could. He could shoot somebody, and
[16:39] Speaker 2: they'd be like, hey, we've all been there. No, we haven't. No,
[16:44] Speaker 2: we haven't. Maybe you have. I have not. It does
[16:47] Speaker 2: not matter, right? It doesn't matter how much creep shit
[16:51] Speaker 2: that comes out from Ole Miss about Lane Kiffin there.
[16:55] Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how much– I don't know if you've
[16:58] Speaker 2: seen the hot yoga instructors of the world are uniting
[17:02] Speaker 2: against Lane Kiffin for his boorish behavior in classes at
[17:06] Speaker 2: Ole Miss. No. No. Oh, an aficionado of hot yoga.
[17:10] Speaker 2: And on TikTok, hot yoga instructors from Ole Miss, from
[17:14] Speaker 2: the particular studio he went to, was like, yeah, he
[17:17] Speaker 2: farted in class and blamed it on a girl. He'd
[17:19] Speaker 2: sit there and he wouldn't follow directions. He was just
[17:22] Speaker 2: doing bicep curls while we were all in child's pose.
[17:25] Speaker 2: He was apparently just going in and freestyling.
[17:28] Speaker 1: After all this stuff we heard about him in the yoga,
[17:31] Speaker 1: he wasn't actually doing yoga.
[17:32] Speaker 3: He was just going to the yoga studio. And we
[17:35] Speaker 3: all know what that means.
[17:37] Speaker 2: I think he started with it, and then he was like,
[17:39] Speaker 2: let me freestyle on this. And they were not appreciative
[17:42] Speaker 2: of that.
[17:43] Speaker 1: I just want to point out that that kind of
[17:45] Speaker 1: stuff is what got Ed Ogeron fired, not the losing.
[17:50] Speaker 2: Which, one day we will have a long investigative series
[17:54] Speaker 2: on the alleged tales of Ed Ogeron hitting on people.
[17:59] Speaker 2: I do not, for one, I do not think they
[18:01] Speaker 2: were true. I don't think they were true at all.
[18:04] Speaker 3: I've come around with you on this one.
[18:05] Speaker 1: That when he saw the woman at the gas station
[18:07] Speaker 1: and asked where she worked out and she was like,
[18:10] Speaker 1: I'm married. And he's like, what's the point? I have
[18:12] Speaker 1: come around. I think he might've wanted to work out.
[18:15] Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, I don't think that entire
[18:18] Speaker 2: story is true. Second, he really might've wanted to work out.
[18:21] Speaker 2: If that story is true. Have you seen Ed? Ed
[18:25] Speaker 2: is in his sixties and he looks like he could
[18:28] Speaker 2: beat your ass.
[18:30] Speaker 3: That's, so the man would love to that's the other
[18:34] Speaker 3: part he would have.
[18:34] Speaker 2: Been like good form good job good job anybody ever
[18:38] Speaker 2: told you you're a natural lifter like that's that's what
[18:41] Speaker 2: he would do right and then maybe a relationship blossoms
[18:44] Speaker 2: from there and by the way free and clear at
[18:47] Speaker 2: that point none of this was off the books right
[18:50] Speaker 2: because ed at that point his divorce was clear yes
[18:53] Speaker 2: that was done it was a single man Right? I did.
[18:56] Speaker 1: Look, that was my favorite part of this story is
[18:58] Speaker 1: all these married men who do all this dirt and
[19:01] Speaker 1: everybody finds a way to let it slide because they
[19:03] Speaker 1: need to keep it low.
[19:04] Speaker 3: Ozeron's problem was that there was no reason to keep
[19:06] Speaker 3: it low.
[19:07] Speaker 1: Therefore, I mean, oh my God. And bringing the kids
[19:10] Speaker 1: to practice. That's never going to, that was never going
[19:13] Speaker 1: to stop.
[19:14] Speaker 2: No. That's amazing. And, you know, there's also this, and
[19:19] Speaker 2: this is going to happen with various coaches who are
[19:22] Speaker 2: under pressure is that all of a sudden we've become
[19:24] Speaker 2: privity to their private lives. And there's a lot of
[19:27] Speaker 2: things that I can say about you. I can be like, OK,
[19:29] Speaker 2: I don't think that's necessarily cool or that's weird or man,
[19:33] Speaker 2: that seems like too many women to date at once.
[19:36] Speaker 2: Your scheduling must be incredible, especially given the 60 to
[19:38] Speaker 2: 70 hour weeks that you're working. I don't see it
[19:41] Speaker 2: being very rewarding for anyone. However, it's not in the contract.
[19:45] Speaker 2: It's not breaking a law. Then then all we can
[19:49] Speaker 2: do is laugh. that's really all we can do and
[19:53] Speaker 2: i will return to this if old miss does not
[19:55] Speaker 2: play if old miss does not play at least the
[19:58] Speaker 2: instrumental version of area codes or of houdini's i'm a
[20:03] Speaker 2: hoe okay or some other variation it's ludicrous.
[20:09] Speaker 1: Oh, that's the one that's coming down.
[20:13] Speaker 3: They're going to play every single one of them.
[20:17] Speaker 2: I don't even know if they're.
[20:18] Speaker 1: Allowed to play rap at the Mississippi Stadium, but if
[20:21] Speaker 1: they haven't before, they will be soon. He also gets
[20:23] Speaker 1: to make a run by Tennessee this year. It is
[20:27] Speaker 1: like all the scoring lane lovers.
[20:30] Speaker 2: They're all there.
[20:31] Speaker 3: Why don't they schedule an exhibition game against the Raiders?
[20:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, don't do it. Don't do it because now everybody
[20:37] Speaker 2: is reminded that Al Davis, though Al Davis did have
[20:40] Speaker 2: some ideas that maybe weren't necessarily practical. The 40-yard pass downfield,
[20:45] Speaker 2: not a base play. Yes. Not a first down play
[20:47] Speaker 2: every first down. Al was right about some things. And
[20:53] Speaker 2: that's this, that when you fire Lane Kiffin, he does
[20:56] Speaker 2: it in a manner where you're just going to want
[20:59] Speaker 2: to take out a power point, where you're going to
[21:00] Speaker 2: want to crack out an overhead projector. You're going to
[21:02] Speaker 2: want to get vintage with it in terms of how
[21:05] Speaker 2: He leaves.
[21:07] Speaker 3: Yeah, he hated that man.
[21:09] Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
[21:11] Speaker 1: That's just, it never stops being amazing. And by the way,
[21:15] Speaker 1: when he got the job at Tennessee, he wrote them
[21:17] Speaker 1: a letter to tell them that this man would leave
[21:21] Speaker 1: you with shame and dishonor.
[21:22] Speaker 2: And what do you know? By the way, like, how mad, like,
[21:28] Speaker 2: that is anger when an old man's going to crack
[21:31] Speaker 2: out a letter, right? Like, because we both have fathers
[21:34] Speaker 2: who are sinners. If you got a letter from your dad,
[21:36] Speaker 2: would you open it? I'd be terrified. I might wait
[21:39] Speaker 2: until he died.
[21:40] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[21:41] Speaker 2: Yeah. I'd be like, I'll open this after you're dead.
[21:43] Speaker 2: I don't want to know what's in it. It's all
[21:45] Speaker 2: the board. It's all the board.
[21:46] Speaker 1: By the way, Spencer, I got to tell you, at
[21:47] Speaker 1: our age, all of our parents are seniors.
[21:51] Speaker 3: Either they were seniors or they were freshmen and you
[21:54] Speaker 3: were born.
[21:55] Speaker 2: We're just at that.
[21:56] Speaker 3: We're at that place. Now, I have this, though.
[21:57] Speaker 1: This is a coaching thing that I've seen, and I
[22:00] Speaker 1: don't know that much about it, but I still find
[22:02] Speaker 1: it interesting. Two guys are about to be coaching at
[22:04] Speaker 1: much different schools than they used to be, at least
[22:06] Speaker 1: one of them.
[22:06] Speaker 3: Pat Fitzgerald, who used to coach at Northwestern.
[22:09] Speaker 1: And apparently he has on some level been absolved of
[22:12] Speaker 1: their running dick gauntlets at training camp at Northwestern, and
[22:15] Speaker 1: he is not responsible for all the dick-rubbing that they
[22:19] Speaker 1: were doing, if you say so.
[22:23] Speaker 3: But he is now going to go to Michigan State.
[22:25] Speaker 1: And also, the head coach at BYU, Sataki, I don't
[22:28] Speaker 1: really know anything about him, but apparently he is the
[22:30] Speaker 1: focus of the Penn State search. And I am very
[22:33] Speaker 1: curious about the possibility that these two guys now go
[22:36] Speaker 1: to jobs where they can and have.
[22:39] Speaker 2: To recruit everybody.
[22:42] Speaker 1: After before really only talking to a subset of people
[22:45] Speaker 1: that spoke.
[22:46] Speaker 2: A certain language. Oh no, no, no, no, no.
[22:49] Speaker 3: Like it's gotta be such a relief for Sataki.
[22:51] Speaker 1: Like for, for Fitzgerald is no longer, man, I gotta
[22:54] Speaker 1: see if they go and get to grades for Sataki.
[22:57] Speaker 1: It's like, I no longer have to explain to them
[23:00] Speaker 1: that the best part about being an athlete is not
[23:02] Speaker 1: on the board here.
[23:04] Speaker 2: Yeah. So one Dick gauntlets were essential to the greatness
[23:09] Speaker 2: of Northwestern football. Pat Fitzgerald, That's why he did them.
[23:13] Speaker 2: And that's why Michigan State is just fine with it.
[23:16] Speaker 2: By the way, Michigan State, not exactly the place where
[23:20] Speaker 2: maybe we want to hire a coach who created a
[23:23] Speaker 2: toxic culture. But what do I know? What do I know?
[23:25] Speaker 2: I'm not paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to run
[23:28] Speaker 2: an athletic department. I'm sure there's some arcane knowledge that
[23:32] Speaker 2: I'm not privileged to where maybe we shouldn't hire that guy.
[23:36] Speaker 2: You know, was it overblown? I don't know what we
[23:39] Speaker 2: don't overblow. Was it bad? Yeah, it was bad. You
[23:43] Speaker 2: don't want people doing that in your football program. Now
[23:45] Speaker 2: Michigan State's got to hire this guy who is, let's rewind,
[23:49] Speaker 2: a retread. A good football coach, but this is a retread. Yes.
[23:52] Speaker 2: You're trying to catch lightning in a bottle twice. It's
[23:54] Speaker 2: a much different environment. And by the way, who says
[23:57] Speaker 2: he's going to be better with players With lower academic standards.
[24:01] Speaker 2: Everyone's a niche. Everyone is somebody who's successful at one
[24:04] Speaker 2: place with very specific conditions. The rare individual is somebody
[24:07] Speaker 2: who is successful at a number of different places under
[24:10] Speaker 2: different conditions, right? Steve Spurrier, for example. Or Bob Chesney,
[24:15] Speaker 2: the guy that UCLA just hired, right? There's a lot
[24:18] Speaker 2: of people getting each other's jobs that's happening right now.
[24:22] Speaker 2: It's fascinating. John Summerall was custom cut agent pitching him
[24:25] Speaker 2: as the next Pat Dye of programs.
[24:28] Speaker 4: Coach a guy in bike shorts with a whistle right
[24:31] Speaker 4: a dude a killer a defensive guy born to run
[24:35] Speaker 4: the ball and do great things and you know in
[24:37] Speaker 4: the old sec he'd be this like eight and four
[24:39] Speaker 4: guy who had a job for 15 years and people
[24:41] Speaker 4: were like i think.
[24:43] Speaker 2: He has a good family and he's a good man
[24:45] Speaker 2: right perfect auburn casting where does he go florida he
[24:49] Speaker 2: goes to florida the place that wanted lane kiffin at
[24:52] Speaker 2: first the place that employed steve spurrier urban meyer or
[24:55] Speaker 2: any other number of mercenaries who just wanted to kill
[24:59] Speaker 2: where did the guy who could have gone to florida
[25:01] Speaker 2: go alex golish right offensive offense first already coaching in
[25:05] Speaker 2: the state of florida he went to auburn who now
[25:08] Speaker 2: auburn fans are like um just we like the russian
[25:11] Speaker 2: guy right we like that's alexi golish by the way
[25:13] Speaker 2: born in russia and came to the united states at
[25:16] Speaker 2: the age of four is that going to keep auburn
[25:18] Speaker 2: fans from just like Blatantly putting tigers in old Soviet
[25:21] Speaker 2: propaganda and posting them on the internet. No, they're already
[25:24] Speaker 2: doing it. It's already happening, man. Chesney goes to UCLA.
[25:29] Speaker 2: Chesney has won, by the way, at the ECAC's finest, right?
[25:35] Speaker 2: Finest private Catholic institutions. Oh, before that, Assumption? um, yeah,
[25:42] Speaker 2: like Bob, he coached at someplace before that the name
[25:44] Speaker 2: is escaping me that has like a saint in it. Um,
[25:47] Speaker 2: like he was coaching at places where I know he
[25:49] Speaker 2: did the laundry, right? Um, he has three stops before he,
[25:53] Speaker 2: he has three stops all before he gets there. James Madison,
[25:56] Speaker 2: which by the way, we're talking about like, Hey, you
[25:58] Speaker 2: succeeded in a big program. James Madison. Okay. It's still
[26:01] Speaker 2: James Madison. I know it's the largest public university in Virginia. Okay.
[26:05] Speaker 2: By enrollment. And you know what that means, right? You're like, Yeah,
[26:08] Speaker 2: it's the biggest one by enrollment. You go, oh, the
[26:11] Speaker 2: former commuter school that's got to glow up, right? And
[26:13] Speaker 2: that happens to have a superb football program that's managed
[26:17] Speaker 2: very well. That guy could have taken the Penn State job.
[26:21] Speaker 2: I think that's like, if you look at the pattern,
[26:24] Speaker 2: he should have gone there. You go, okay, regional, sort
[26:27] Speaker 2: of in the area, definitely like the workaday, blue-collar type
[26:31] Speaker 2: guy who's on the come-up. He goes to UCLA. Okay.
[26:34] Speaker 2: which is a complete wild card of a hire. And
[26:36] Speaker 2: then Kalani Satake, who could have gone to UCLA as
[26:38] Speaker 2: a West Coast recruiter, somebody with roots there, he might
[26:41] Speaker 2: be going to Penn State. He might already be at
[26:43] Speaker 2: Penn State by the time anyone hears this, Bo. And
[26:47] Speaker 2: so there's a lot of very weird default choices going
[26:50] Speaker 2: to the second step and going to the place where
[26:52] Speaker 2: they were listed as either the primary or secondary. It's
[26:55] Speaker 2: a very weird market, active and weird.
[26:57] Speaker 1: BYU, to me, sneaky good job that I would be
[27:01] Speaker 1: reluctant to leave because if they got anything over there,
[27:04] Speaker 1: it's money. They got money, and they have a conference
[27:08] Speaker 1: in which they may be the best job.
[27:12] Speaker 3: In the Big 12. When you really stop and think
[27:14] Speaker 3: about it, you can.
[27:15] Speaker 2: Make an argument that they are. You have a built-in
[27:18] Speaker 2: recruiting pitch. Yes. If the money doesn't do it, maybe
[27:22] Speaker 2: God will. Yeah. Maybe culture will. I don't have to—
[27:26] Speaker 2: You don't have to function as a Mormon, as an outsider, right?
[27:28] Speaker 2: Not that that doesn't happen every day. Not that Mormons
[27:31] Speaker 2: aren't completely fluent moving from one sphere of their life
[27:34] Speaker 2: to another and balancing their faith against a public role. Sorry, Mormons,
[27:38] Speaker 2: if you're listening to this, but, but you have a
[27:41] Speaker 2: built-in recruiting pitch where it's easy. It's easy. You're just
[27:44] Speaker 2: going to the place where everyone does this already. Yeah.
[27:46] Speaker 2: And in addition to that, they're all a little older.
[27:50] Speaker 2: If you look at those guys, they, They've always hit
[27:52] Speaker 2: with the violence of people who got up with the kids.
[27:54] Speaker 3: Yep, that's what I'm saying.
[27:57] Speaker 1: Those are grown men who they're playing football to get away.
[28:01] Speaker 2: That's less true than it used to be, but there's
[28:03] Speaker 2: still people there who are like, yeah, I got to
[28:06] Speaker 2: play this game. Then the wife and I are going
[28:08] Speaker 2: to Costco tomorrow morning. That's a concern. That's a legitimate concern.
[28:12] Speaker 1: We need to put together a list of those programs
[28:14] Speaker 1: whose secret sauce is we old.
[28:17] Speaker 3: Kansas State. We old. These boys need this in.
[28:23] Speaker 2: A different way. Kansas State had guys who were like.
[28:27] Speaker 2: You know, so I was roughnecking. That's good money. That's
[28:31] Speaker 2: good money. But, you know, I'll tell you, it's a
[28:34] Speaker 2: hard life. It's a hard life out there. It's lonely, too.
[28:36] Speaker 2: It's lonely. So I thought I'd come back to football because,
[28:40] Speaker 2: you know, Laramie wasn't being good to me. Like, that's...
[28:43] Speaker 2: That is very, very real. And I think you could
[28:47] Speaker 2: play with a rage that you can only get if
[28:48] Speaker 2: you have five hours sleep and two kids. That's what
[28:53] Speaker 2: BYU hits with. It's a great gig. By the way,
[28:55] Speaker 2: can we just go ahead and highlight that the Big 12,
[28:57] Speaker 2: I know we're going to make fun of the ACC
[28:59] Speaker 2: a little bit inevitably because the ACC has a title
[29:02] Speaker 2: game where the two best teams may not be in it.
[29:05] Speaker 2: Virginia plays Duke because of conference records and how things
[29:09] Speaker 2: line up in that conference because it is a bucket
[29:11] Speaker 2: of crabs. And everyone points and laughs and goes, ha,
[29:14] Speaker 2: who's going to watch that on TV? BYU plays Texas
[29:18] Speaker 2: Tech for the Big 12 championship. This used to be
[29:23] Speaker 2: Texas playing some other relatively large market team, right? And
[29:28] Speaker 2: the Big 12 has morphed into this mutant where we
[29:30] Speaker 2: have Lubbock v. Provo. It's way, way less comfortable when
[29:35] Speaker 2: I say it that way. byu texas tech sounds all
[29:37] Speaker 2: right but i'm like provo versus lubbock the two metropolises all.
[29:43] Speaker 1: Right coming up next week i'm going to talk about
[29:45] Speaker 1: the actual football of the weekend you know there was
[29:48] Speaker 1: once upon a time this is a highly anticipated weekend
[29:50] Speaker 1: and now we just talk about lane kiffin All right, Spencer,
[29:54] Speaker 1: it is championship game weekend. And a big discussion in
[29:57] Speaker 1: the Lane Kiffin saga is the calendar, the calendar, the calendar.
[30:01] Speaker 1: It's the calendar's fault that this guy doesn't know how
[30:03] Speaker 1: to act like an adult, right? It's the calendar's fault
[30:05] Speaker 1: that unfortunately you had to make a tough decision, a
[30:09] Speaker 1: one or the other. And somehow you thought that you
[30:11] Speaker 1: could get away with both. And then you're trying to
[30:13] Speaker 1: piss on our head after you get to this other part.
[30:15] Speaker 1: But we have actual factual football. And I do want
[30:18] Speaker 1: to point out as we talk about the calendar, it
[30:20] Speaker 1: does stink. in the way that everything runs, in the
[30:23] Speaker 1: way the playoff is now set up, this feels very
[30:27] Speaker 1: anticlimactic and in some ways confusing as to what it
[30:32] Speaker 1: is that you're supposed to do with a team that
[30:34] Speaker 1: loses in a conference championship game, which is to say,
[30:37] Speaker 1: what's going to happen to Alabama and Kalen DeBoer if
[30:40] Speaker 1: they lose this game to Georgia that in theory should
[30:43] Speaker 1: not knock them out of the playoff if they lose,
[30:45] Speaker 1: but probably will?
[30:47] Speaker 2: Probably will. I would win this game if I were him.
[30:52] Speaker 2: Because Alabama does not like it when you lose SEC
[30:55] Speaker 2: title games. They do not like it when you lose
[30:58] Speaker 2: at all. Kalen DeBoer has been an interesting piece in
[31:01] Speaker 2: all of this because Kalen DeBoer has been at least
[31:04] Speaker 2: put as a possibility at all of the following places. USC.
[31:11] Speaker 2: Penn State. School to be named later after we vacate
[31:16] Speaker 2: Coach X. He's been this sort of question mark. And
[31:22] Speaker 2: no one asked him about any of this because we
[31:25] Speaker 2: just assume Alabama's that volatile. We just assume they're going
[31:29] Speaker 2: to throw him out. And no one's questioned it. I
[31:31] Speaker 2: say this with people like in this industry who, when
[31:35] Speaker 2: talking about whether coaches are going to move or whether
[31:37] Speaker 2: USC is going to get rid of Lincoln or Texas
[31:39] Speaker 2: Tech is going to fire Joey McGuire if he trails
[31:42] Speaker 2: for a single quarter. There's a lot of that. But
[31:46] Speaker 2: everyone takes as a given that Alabama's volatile, and I
[31:48] Speaker 2: don't know if, at least on DeBoer's end, that that's true. Because,
[31:53] Speaker 2: by all reports, he's pretty happy there. Because you know
[31:57] Speaker 2: who else has the keys? Kalen DeBoer. Because they have
[32:00] Speaker 2: to trust him at this point. Alabama's too big a product,
[32:03] Speaker 2: and everything's riding on his good decision-making, and they've let
[32:06] Speaker 2: him have whatever he wants. Quietly, he's got the Lane
[32:10] Speaker 2: Kiffin deal. Whatever you need, whatever you want, we're going
[32:13] Speaker 2: to give it to you. And we won't have to
[32:15] Speaker 2: be freaks about it like those guys in Baton Rouge. Right.
[32:19] Speaker 2: So I don't think I think that's maybe now I
[32:22] Speaker 2: know it'd be fun if we could just throw Alabama
[32:24] Speaker 2: into this mix. But right now, the messiest program is LSU.
[32:29] Speaker 2: That's because they have Lane Kiffin as their coach. Jeff
[32:31] Speaker 2: Landry is their governor. And because Le Bon Temps continue
[32:35] Speaker 2: to rule. It's just a big festive thing. Alabama still
[32:40] Speaker 2: pretty businesslike at this point. I know it'd be fun.
[32:43] Speaker 2: If we could get them riled up. And it would
[32:45] Speaker 2: be fun if they were in chaos. I think they're
[32:47] Speaker 2: probably a little more in order than we might think
[32:50] Speaker 2: they are.
[32:51] Speaker 1: Okay, so I do not make the assumption that with
[32:54] Speaker 1: a loss or whatever that Alabama is going to toss
[32:56] Speaker 1: DeBoer out.
[32:57] Speaker 2: Right? Yeah.
[32:58] Speaker 3: I operate on the assumption that he'll jump ship.
[33:01] Speaker 2: Because again.
[33:03] Speaker 3: I've seen this happen several times.
[33:07] Speaker 1: Alabama did not want Franchoni to leave. He just looked
[33:12] Speaker 1: around and was like, well, first of all, you guys
[33:13] Speaker 1: lied to me. But he just looked around and was like, oh,
[33:16] Speaker 1: hell no. Anytime somebody's like, yeah, College Station, here I come.
[33:21] Speaker 2: What?
[33:21] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that right there. Not what's up. Ray Perkins,
[33:25] Speaker 1: he jumped ship. There's another one I just can't remember
[33:29] Speaker 1: right now, but that is always my, I mean, Nick
[33:31] Speaker 1: Saban was about to jump ship. We cannot forget that
[33:34] Speaker 1: the Texas job was right there. And if they had
[33:37] Speaker 1: just done it right, he would have jumped ship on
[33:39] Speaker 1: this one. The look on DeBoer's face when they scored
[33:42] Speaker 1: that touchdown at the fourth quarter to take the league
[33:45] Speaker 1: of utter relief. Just like, oh my God, thanks. I
[33:51] Speaker 1: did not want to have to deal with this again.
[33:53] Speaker 1: That's why if USC were to come open and his
[33:56] Speaker 1: old boss is running the search.
[33:57] Speaker 2: At USC, I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, he gone. He gone.
[34:00] Speaker 2: He gone.
[34:00] Speaker 1: He gone take that one. But I don't know what
[34:02] Speaker 1: happens if you lose this game. I mean, he's he's
[34:04] Speaker 1: had decent success against Georgia. There's some interesting kind of
[34:07] Speaker 1: circles in this conference. Mike Elko now can't be Steve Sarkeesian,
[34:11] Speaker 1: but Steve Sarkeesian apparently can't be Kirby Smart. But Kirby Smart,
[34:14] Speaker 1: not so great when it comes to playing against Alabama.
[34:17] Speaker 1: It just kind of goes in this rotation. But if
[34:19] Speaker 1: Alabama loses this one, there's a three loss. Alabama make
[34:23] Speaker 1: this playoff. My guess is no.
[34:26] Speaker 2: I think it depends on how they lose. This is
[34:28] Speaker 2: one of those ones where I think if the committee
[34:30] Speaker 2: is looking at it and they want to put Alabama in,
[34:33] Speaker 2: they will, if it's close. And I think this will
[34:35] Speaker 2: be a close game. And I don't think that has
[34:37] Speaker 2: a lot to do with Alabama. I think that's on Georgia.
[34:40] Speaker 2: I think Georgia just plays tight games this year. You know,
[34:43] Speaker 2: they don't have an ability to sort of take big
[34:47] Speaker 2: 21 point chunks out of people on offense and defensively.
[34:51] Speaker 2: They're very good, but they also don't do that thing where, Whoops,
[34:55] Speaker 2: three interceptions in a quarter. You're now losing by 17 points.
[34:58] Speaker 2: They don't do that. This is more of an anaconda
[35:01] Speaker 2: type team. This is, by the way, Kirby Smart couldn't
[35:04] Speaker 2: be happier. This is ideal Kirby Smart football. 16-9. How
[35:08] Speaker 2: did we win? Toughness. That's how we won. We won
[35:11] Speaker 2: with toughness. That's it. Did you win with brains? No. No.
[35:16] Speaker 2: We left our brains in the locker room, right? I
[35:19] Speaker 2: got Mike Bobo calling plays. No one's going to be happy.
[35:21] Speaker 1: Me and Ryan were talking before the show about how
[35:24] Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin is 100% not my kind of guy as human.
[35:28] Speaker 1: But as football coach, Kirby Smart is 100% not your
[35:33] Speaker 1: kind of guy in any form or fashion whatsoever. He's
[35:37] Speaker 1: a better version of Will Muschamp, who was not just
[35:40] Speaker 1: not your kind of guy.
[35:41] Speaker 2: He was also your team's coach. Yeah, I'm not. Okay.
[35:46] Speaker 2: As I've aged, I've at least I respect the guy.
[35:49] Speaker 2: Who thinks that football should be won by a field
[35:51] Speaker 2: goal in the fourth quarter. I do. I also hate
[35:55] Speaker 2: it for the same reason that I hate clearing my
[35:57] Speaker 2: bills by a dollar. Right. I don't like it. I
[36:01] Speaker 2: like big margins. I want to feel safe. Give me
[36:04] Speaker 2: a coach that feels safe. Right. They're like, Hey, you
[36:06] Speaker 2: know what? Our toughness is going to get us through this.
[36:08] Speaker 2: And I'm like a 38 point lead. It'll get you
[36:11] Speaker 2: through this.
[36:13] Speaker 3: You're like, you know, I don't want a great fourth
[36:15] Speaker 3: quarter team. I want a great third quarter team.
[36:17] Speaker 2: Third quarter team. I want you to foreclose on them. Okay.
[36:21] Speaker 2: Like I respect what Ohio state's doing by playing as
[36:24] Speaker 2: little football as possible to get to the playoff. That's
[36:27] Speaker 2: the smartest thing. Could you guys just hang 50 on somebody?
[36:31] Speaker 2: Hang 50. I know you could, but you don't want
[36:33] Speaker 2: to because you go, well, we can burn the clock.
[36:35] Speaker 2: We can just get out of here. It's fine. Cool.
[36:37] Speaker 2: It's a job to you. Do you know what? Make
[36:38] Speaker 2: me feel better as a fan flames. Like, You know,
[36:42] Speaker 2: Curtis LeMay, the head of the Strategic Air Command, was
[36:45] Speaker 2: once asked why he needed 10 times as many bombs
[36:48] Speaker 2: to destroy a target as was necessary. Because in the
[36:53] Speaker 2: words of the interrogator, the questioner said, why do you
[36:56] Speaker 2: need to reduce everything? You know, it's already done. You've
[37:01] Speaker 2: already reduced everything to cinders, right? It's all ashes. And
[37:03] Speaker 2: he goes, yeah, but I want to watch the ashes dance.
[37:06] Speaker 2: And it's like, that's the kind of psychopath I want
[37:08] Speaker 2: as a head coach. Dan Lanning. When Dan Lanning gets
[37:11] Speaker 2: that chance, that's what he does. He's like, hey, you
[37:13] Speaker 2: know what's better than a 14-point lead? A 21-point lead.
[37:16] Speaker 2: You know what's better than a 21-point lead? 28-point lead.
[37:18] Speaker 2: So I respect it, Kirby. I do get it. I
[37:21] Speaker 2: really love that emphasis on the process and on dominating
[37:24] Speaker 2: people every down. You know what else I like? I
[37:27] Speaker 2: like annihilation. I like watching a team do that because
[37:30] Speaker 2: I'm nervous. I'd really prefer to be up by 40.
[37:32] Speaker 2: All right.
[37:33] Speaker 3: I want to point out something. Speaking of teams.
[37:36] Speaker 1: That are by 40, talk about this with Ohio State.
[37:39] Speaker 1: And they are playing Indiana this week in. OK, so
[37:43] Speaker 1: one of the arguments that anti-playoff people and to be clear,
[37:46] Speaker 1: I have always been an anti-playoff person. And the actual
[37:48] Speaker 1: existence of the playoff has only made me more resolute
[37:51] Speaker 1: and clearer than ever that I was right in the
[37:53] Speaker 1: first place. One of the arguments was that these regular
[37:57] Speaker 1: season games are just not going to hit like they
[38:00] Speaker 1: used to. And I've heard people make the spin. But no, look,
[38:03] Speaker 1: the ratings are up for da da da and all
[38:05] Speaker 1: of this stuff.
[38:06] Speaker 2: Fine.
[38:07] Speaker 1: I'm just telling you this week that there's a one
[38:09] Speaker 1: versus two matchup in the Big Ten championship game. And
[38:11] Speaker 1: it is the least anticipated one versus two matchup that
[38:15] Speaker 1: I think we have ever had. In part because of
[38:19] Speaker 1: having this playoff that's just going to run next week.
[38:22] Speaker 1: And I think now, granted, these teams, Michigan and Michigan
[38:26] Speaker 1: and Indy fucking Anna. But these teams haven't really played
[38:31] Speaker 1: much of anybody. Ohio State had the big win against
[38:33] Speaker 1: Texas to start the season. Since then, no win to
[38:37] Speaker 1: truly speak of. Indiana has, I mean, honestly, what might
[38:40] Speaker 1: be the best win anybody has this year, that win
[38:43] Speaker 1: at Oregon by 10 points.
[38:45] Speaker 3: I do want to point this out, though.
[38:48] Speaker 1: Indiana has given up 24 to Penn State and 20
[38:52] Speaker 1: to Oregon, and that's the most points they've given up
[38:55] Speaker 1: all year long. Ohio State has not given up more
[38:59] Speaker 1: than 16 points this year. These two teams have been
[39:04] Speaker 1: annihilating people. Like Ohio State, the closest they had to
[39:08] Speaker 1: the scare was Texas. Indiana had the one against Penn State.
[39:12] Speaker 1: But these two teams have been waxing people, but it's
[39:15] Speaker 1: in part because of the calendar, because they're waxing people
[39:17] Speaker 1: because all they play against is floors.
[39:20] Speaker 3: That's it.
[39:21] Speaker 2: So the joke of the Big Ten is that everybody's
[39:24] Speaker 2: a flavor of Purdue, right? Wisconsin, that's Derry, Derry-Purdue, right?
[39:29] Speaker 2: That's Cowboys. Purdue. You know, Illinois, that science Purdue, which
[39:35] Speaker 2: I know, sorry, Purdue, your rocket science, Purdue, not general science.
[39:40] Speaker 2: You know, even Penn state became ice cream Purdue this year.
[39:43] Speaker 2: Like they are all different variations of Purdue. It's, One
[39:47] Speaker 2: of the reasons we're not excited about this one, too,
[39:49] Speaker 2: is because of the calendar. We've talked about the calendar.
[39:51] Speaker 2: The calendar, nothing in this sport is built for the calendar.
[39:54] Speaker 2: Nothing in this sport makes sense because of the calendar.
[39:56] Speaker 2: It's like 90 different people planned it without looking to
[39:59] Speaker 2: see what overlapped. By the way, did you know that
[40:01] Speaker 2: we're two, I believe two days at this point, shy
[40:04] Speaker 2: of an early signing day, which.
[40:06] Speaker 3: Is all in the middle of this? The worst idea
[40:07] Speaker 3: they ever had, by the way.
[40:09] Speaker 2: Dumb. Dumb.
[40:11] Speaker 1: To me, that's the biggest one. That's the biggest thing
[40:13] Speaker 1: that's messed up the calendar. That's the one that's getting
[40:15] Speaker 1: people fired in September.
[40:17] Speaker 2: Yeah. it accelerated all of this. Like it made everything
[40:20] Speaker 2: much less stable. There's no coaches and their hiring period
[40:25] Speaker 2: can't coordinate with recruits and their signing period, which can't
[40:28] Speaker 2: coordinate with the schedule, which by the way, the big
[40:31] Speaker 2: 10 schedule sucks this year, but that's not necessarily the
[40:34] Speaker 2: big 10s fault. It's not, it's just the quality of
[40:37] Speaker 2: teams right now, the big 10, by having so many
[40:40] Speaker 2: teams at that bottom of the big 10, the bottom
[40:42] Speaker 2: five or six teams, it's as bad as you'll see
[40:45] Speaker 2: in any conference. maybe worse just because one conference is huge.
[40:50] Speaker 2: You're going to have more bad teams and more good teams,
[40:52] Speaker 2: but at the top, it's so stratified, you know, Ohio
[40:56] Speaker 2: state will beat Indiana. I feel real confident saying that
[41:00] Speaker 2: if they do lose to Indiana, then that is, that
[41:04] Speaker 2: should go down as one of the great upsets in
[41:06] Speaker 2: college football history. I, I know Indiana has been great
[41:09] Speaker 2: this year and they were great last year. And Kurt
[41:11] Speaker 2: Cignetti has done a remarkable job there. One that I
[41:14] Speaker 2: think is like for the books, there is nobody, who
[41:17] Speaker 2: in my mind has engineered a bigger turnaround. Like we're
[41:21] Speaker 2: now putting this in the category of Bill Snyder, Barry Alvarez,
[41:24] Speaker 2: people who have gone in and take programs that are
[41:26] Speaker 2: historical doormats and turned them into mean top tier programs.
[41:32] Speaker 2: That said, if they do upset them, you're going to
[41:35] Speaker 2: have to put another superlative next to Kurt Cignetti's name.
[41:37] Speaker 2: Cause in my mind, that would be the biggest upset
[41:39] Speaker 2: in a championship game in forever years. Like, because this
[41:44] Speaker 2: Ohio state team, is that far ahead. Their defense alone
[41:48] Speaker 2: is one of the best teams in the nation. I
[41:50] Speaker 2: just mean their defense, right? If you put them on
[41:53] Speaker 2: the field and punted on offense, I think every game
[41:55] Speaker 2: would probably be three, nothing. And it would be for
[41:58] Speaker 2: Ohio state. So I am looking forward to it, but
[42:01] Speaker 2: I understand why other people aren't because the big 10
[42:03] Speaker 2: has been kind of ass right. Top to bottom. It's
[42:06] Speaker 2: very stratified. All of the qualities at the top and
[42:08] Speaker 2: like two teams. And they've had the most like Penn
[42:11] Speaker 2: state really undermine their national standing by utterly collapsing down
[42:15] Speaker 2: the stretch. You know, they're going to probably finish 6-6.
[42:17] Speaker 2: I think they finished 6-6. Nobody wants to see that
[42:20] Speaker 2: in a bowl game because they were, and I remind everybody,
[42:23] Speaker 2: a preseason top five. The preseason top five this year,
[42:26] Speaker 2: by the way, as inaccurate as it has ever been,
[42:29] Speaker 2: thanks to Penn State and Clemson and Texas, all disappointing.
[42:32] Speaker 2: I know, Texas at 9-3 is disappointing, but look where
[42:34] Speaker 2: they were in the preseason. A top 25.
[42:37] Speaker 4: Number one. One.
[42:40] Speaker 2: This is.
[42:41] Speaker 1: College football is in a dangerous place, though, where the NBA...
[42:45] Speaker 1: had this problem, and I think still has this problem
[42:47] Speaker 1: to a degree, which is all the personnel stuff and
[42:52] Speaker 1: the kind of gossipy stuff started to take precedence over
[42:57] Speaker 1: the actual play. Like, for example, right now in the NBA,
[43:01] Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, I want to
[43:02] Speaker 1: make sure I get this number exact right, but the
[43:05] Speaker 1: Oklahoma City Thunder is 20-1.
[43:06] Speaker 4: They....
[43:10] Speaker 1: They could win 75.
[43:12] Speaker 3: Games this year, right?
[43:14] Speaker 1: They are super young. They have a top two player
[43:17] Speaker 1: in the NBA. They went 21, by the way, with
[43:19] Speaker 1: their second best player, not being on the team, all
[43:22] Speaker 1: of this. I don't know what it takes for that
[43:24] Speaker 1: to register and really break through, right? But if I
[43:28] Speaker 1: told you there was some big trade that was going
[43:30] Speaker 1: on or something like that, oh, man, everybody would be
[43:32] Speaker 1: all over that.
[43:33] Speaker 3: And that could get the discussion.
[43:35] Speaker 1: The college football right now, again, we're coming into this
[43:37] Speaker 1: week and it's really all about Lane Kiffin. And I
[43:40] Speaker 1: don't know if there's anything that could happen this weekend
[43:42] Speaker 1: that would be more interesting to people than Lane Kiffin.
[43:45] Speaker 1: And I think that's in part because because the conferences
[43:47] Speaker 1: have gotten so big, all these games that get played,
[43:50] Speaker 1: we don't feel like we really know who is and
[43:52] Speaker 1: is not good. just because you don't have the iron
[43:57] Speaker 1: versus iron that you typically had throughout a season. Because
[44:00] Speaker 1: what do you know? Remember when people were like, why
[44:01] Speaker 1: do we even have divisions in conferences? That doesn't make
[44:04] Speaker 1: any sense. No, iteration is important. Consistency in those things
[44:07] Speaker 1: are important. They help us gather information. They help build rivalries.
[44:11] Speaker 1: They help all these things. And now it's a conference
[44:12] Speaker 1: championship weekend that doesn't feel like it matters that much.
[44:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, and you brought up the NBA. I think it
[44:18] Speaker 2: feels a lot like boxing where– we have obvious heavyweights
[44:23] Speaker 2: and I mean, old school boxing. I don't mean current.
[44:25] Speaker 2: I mean like era of the heavyweights, late seventies, eighties
[44:28] Speaker 2: into the nineties, where you're not going to get a
[44:31] Speaker 2: whole lot of actual marquee matchups. You're going to get
[44:35] Speaker 2: a lot of tomato cans and managing that record, right?
[44:38] Speaker 2: If somebody has 40 and one with one loss, then
[44:41] Speaker 2: of that 40, you're going to see 35 guys. They
[44:45] Speaker 2: pulled off the street, take a beating for cash. And
[44:49] Speaker 2: that's what happens when you make big conferences. When you
[44:51] Speaker 2: have big conferences and you try to rotate schedules and
[44:53] Speaker 2: have everyone play everybody, then you do thin down the
[44:57] Speaker 2: testing metal of that conference. You thin down the competitive
[45:02] Speaker 2: nature of that conference. It's inevitable. And like the Big Ten,
[45:06] Speaker 2: I think, is suffering from this simply because they are
[45:07] Speaker 2: the biggest conference. And I mean that in terms of money.
[45:10] Speaker 2: And I mean that in terms of geographic spread and
[45:12] Speaker 2: in terms of actual number of members. Like they are
[45:15] Speaker 2: the biggest right now. And the bottom is so very
[45:20] Speaker 2: bad and weak in the middle is not great either.
[45:23] Speaker 2: That when we ask how good is Ohio state, you go, okay,
[45:26] Speaker 2: on paper, this is one of the best college football
[45:30] Speaker 2: teams I've ever seen. They have not sweat this year.
[45:33] Speaker 2: They have barely put forth effort and they have managed
[45:36] Speaker 2: to wipe everyone on their schedule in an economical fashion,
[45:39] Speaker 2: like clinical. That's why, like, I think we're sleeping on
[45:43] Speaker 2: this Indiana matchup because if they do If they are competitive,
[45:47] Speaker 2: first of all, congratulations to Indiana because no one else
[45:50] Speaker 2: has really been that competitive for the Ohio State. In
[45:53] Speaker 2: addition to that, if they manage to upset them, it's
[45:56] Speaker 2: going to be a reversal of everything that I think
[45:58] Speaker 2: is supposed to happen in the Big Ten by design.
[46:01] Speaker 2: Like Ohio State is supposed to come out of this thing.
[46:03] Speaker 2: If it's not Ohio State, it's Michigan. And these were
[46:05] Speaker 2: our bell cows and these are the ones that drive ratings, right?
[46:07] Speaker 2: Not to look at this too cynically from a business point,
[46:09] Speaker 2: but I'm going to do it. The Big Ten has
[46:11] Speaker 2: been all about business. I'm just returning the favor, right?
[46:14] Speaker 2: This is the conference that has embraced the spreadsheet more
[46:16] Speaker 2: than any single conference. And by the way, people go, well,
[46:20] Speaker 2: that's SEC homerism. No, we can't read spreadsheets. We're not
[46:23] Speaker 2: great at that. The SEC has been behind in terms
[46:25] Speaker 2: of thinking about this.
[46:26] Speaker 4: Okay.
[46:26] Speaker 2: They're just slower. They're slower and they haven't been as
[46:28] Speaker 2: reactive and they've made a bet on a different business model.
[46:31] Speaker 2: And I don't think it's going to wear out. I
[46:33] Speaker 2: think the big 10 wins as far as anything can
[46:36] Speaker 2: be considered victory in this. But the point is this matchup,
[46:41] Speaker 2: this matchup has so much on the line in terms of,
[46:45] Speaker 2: national branding it would also be very ryan day to
[46:49] Speaker 2: lose a game at the end of the season that
[46:50] Speaker 2: he shouldn't lose and win the national title anyway right
[46:53] Speaker 2: lose the big lose the big 10 championship in an
[46:55] Speaker 2: upset go on and destroy people in the playoff which
[46:58] Speaker 2: was the plan all along like i think that is
[47:00] Speaker 2: they've been building to this the playoff is the priority
[47:02] Speaker 2: so i don't know kirk catch him sleeping man i would.
[47:05] Speaker 1: Also like to take this moment to make the point
[47:07] Speaker 1: that Maybe, just maybe, Lane should have looked at Kurt
[47:11] Speaker 1: Cignetti who looked at this and was like, nah, how
[47:13] Speaker 1: about I just take all this money to stay right
[47:15] Speaker 1: here where I'm a god as opposed to I'm going
[47:18] Speaker 1: to go jump in some hot grease.
[47:20] Speaker 2: Why?
[47:20] Speaker 3: Because that'll impress people.
[47:23] Speaker 2: Hey, listen. Some of us have ADHD. Lane was in
[47:29] Speaker 2: Ole Miss for six years. Yeah. I'm going to convert
[47:32] Speaker 2: that to normal people years. That's like 200 years anywhere else.
[47:36] Speaker 2: That's fair. That's 200 years.
[47:39] Speaker 4: Okay.
[47:39] Speaker 2: We're talking about, we're talking about a grown man who
[47:42] Speaker 2: posts on Instagram stories. Like he is a 23 year
[47:45] Speaker 2: old lady.
[47:46] Speaker 4: Okay.
[47:48] Speaker 2: And by that, I mean a lot of inspo, right?
[47:50] Speaker 2: A lot of like, you know what you do, you
[47:52] Speaker 2: do what you need to do for your heart. If
[47:54] Speaker 2: someone's in there, you need to let them go. You
[47:57] Speaker 2: need to let them go. See if they come back.
[47:59] Speaker 2: Like I've never seen a grown man post like that.
[48:01] Speaker 2: And this isn't me going, well, that's female posting. No,
[48:04] Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. I just haven't seen it. Well, no,
[48:07] Speaker 2: I just haven't seen it. Okay. I've never seen anybody post.
[48:10] Speaker 2: He posts like, I think my nieces should post. My
[48:13] Speaker 2: nieces don't post like that, but he posts like stuff
[48:16] Speaker 2: that I'm like, I've never seen a coach do this
[48:18] Speaker 2: in my life. And he's 50.
[48:19] Speaker 4: Right.
[48:21] Speaker 2: He's slightly older than I am. Like that's unreal. What
[48:26] Speaker 2: a time. What a sport. What a world, man.
[48:29] Speaker 3: What a world.
[48:30] Speaker 2: It's the, listen, greatest american sport we just spent we
[48:34] Speaker 2: just spent this entire time talking about human resources even
[48:39] Speaker 2: our human resources bow is more interesting than any other
[48:42] Speaker 2: sport it is like and that's the thing everybody hates
[48:45] Speaker 2: right when hr calls leave the building but when college
[48:49] Speaker 2: football hr calls and wants to tell some stories have
[48:52] Speaker 2: a seat.
[48:52] Speaker 1: Doc here's where college sports generally are like the world
[48:56] Speaker 1: okay um i went to grenada last week right Looked
[49:02] Speaker 1: kind of like Hawaii, short of flight, gave it a run.
[49:05] Speaker 2: And they have a bit of.
[49:06] Speaker 3: An interesting political history in Grenada.
[49:10] Speaker 2: You're not the first American to land there.
[49:14] Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's cool. I got out on my own, right?
[49:16] Speaker 3: So I'm there and I don't want to get.
[49:19] Speaker 1: Into all the details of the history because it'll take
[49:21] Speaker 1: a little bit too long. But I was thinking about
[49:23] Speaker 1: something that involved a bloodless coup and then one that
[49:27] Speaker 1: involved a more violent coup. But anyway, Grenada right now
[49:31] Speaker 1: has 120,000 people.
[49:32] Speaker 2: Okay. Right.
[49:34] Speaker 1: That is a small town. Small town is going too far,
[49:37] Speaker 1: but it is a very, very, very small city, right?
[49:40] Speaker 1: Like you can go through the list of cities that
[49:41] Speaker 1: have 120,000 people and you can see who those places are. Now,
[49:47] Speaker 1: take a moment. I don't know anything about who runs
[49:48] Speaker 1: Grenade or anything else. So I'm just operating hypothetically. So
[49:51] Speaker 1: take a town that has 120,000 people and imagine who
[49:54] Speaker 1: the mayor is of a place that has 120,000 people.
[49:57] Speaker 1: And you can imagine who the mayor is of a
[49:58] Speaker 1: place that has a million people, okay? The mayor of
[50:01] Speaker 1: a place that has 120,000 people is not, I mean, New.
[50:04] Speaker 3: York elected area Adams. You get the point that I'm
[50:07] Speaker 3: making here, right?
[50:08] Speaker 1: It could be anybody that could be the mayor of
[50:10] Speaker 1: a place that has 120,000 people, except that guy isn't
[50:13] Speaker 1: a mayor. That guy or woman is a president, a
[50:19] Speaker 1: prime minister. And you know what comes with being a
[50:21] Speaker 1: president or a prime minister? You get your very own armies. OK,
[50:25] Speaker 1: so you take whatever little town it is that you
[50:27] Speaker 1: have that has one hundred twenty thousand people. And imagine
[50:30] Speaker 1: that you let the person in charge of that have
[50:32] Speaker 1: a whole ass army to himself.
[50:35] Speaker 2: OK. Yeah.
[50:37] Speaker 3: Think about that in the context of college sports. OK,
[50:41] Speaker 3: there's big, there's small, there's all these things.
[50:43] Speaker 1: But in the end, there's a lot of people who
[50:46] Speaker 1: have armies that should not be allowed to have an
[50:51] Speaker 1: army there.
[50:52] Speaker 3: But something that they have, that's school. That means you
[50:56] Speaker 3: get to have an army.
[50:56] Speaker 1: That means you get to have all kinds of things
[50:58] Speaker 1: that a person who's actually operating on the scale of that,
[51:01] Speaker 1: no one man should have all that power.
[51:03] Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. That's college sports.
[51:06] Speaker 2: That is, hey, I'm going to put it this way.
[51:08] Speaker 2: Lane just took a job where he gets his own tiger. Yes.
[51:13] Speaker 2: He gets a tiger. That's Scarface. Yes. When you become
[51:16] Speaker 2: LSU's coach, there's a tiger there. And it's in your house.
[51:20] Speaker 1: There's a tiger and a tiger that they also got
[51:24] Speaker 1: because the governor decided that they needed a different tiger, right?
[51:27] Speaker 2: Right, right. Also, can we discuss this? Lane's probably going
[51:31] Speaker 2: to post like the tiger is his because we, in
[51:35] Speaker 2: the course of all this conversation, did not get to.
[51:38] Speaker 2: Lane might not have even had a dog. Lane had
[51:42] Speaker 2: a dog and he posted from a social account for
[51:44] Speaker 2: that dog, Juice Kiffin, and now the dog's still in Oxford?
[51:49] Speaker 2: You never leave a man behind lane. Never leave a
[51:53] Speaker 2: man behind.
[51:53] Speaker 1: He told everybody, he told everybody to get on that plane.
[51:56] Speaker 1: And the dog didn't think it was about him.
[51:59] Speaker 2: He might've had for real. I can't believe I'm saying this.
[52:03] Speaker 2: We might've had a football coach who had a, a
[52:06] Speaker 2: Labrador retriever for PR purposes. We might've had a stunt dog, right?
[52:12] Speaker 2: A PR dog. That is now, by the way, safe
[52:15] Speaker 2: in Oxford, safe in Oxford, But yeah, by the way,
[52:19] Speaker 2: Ole Miss stripped the verified badge from the Juice Kiffin
[52:22] Speaker 2: account when Lane Kiffin took that. So you want to
[52:25] Speaker 2: talk about petty? You no longer have the blue check, dog.
[52:28] Speaker 1: That's beef over there. They ain't paying no more money
[52:31] Speaker 1: for that. Spencer Hall, check him out. Channel 6 and
[52:35] Speaker 1: various other places.
[52:36] Speaker 2: Talking college football. My man, I greatly appreciate you. Anytime.
[52:40] Speaker 2: All right.
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[52:50] Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.
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