# Adam Lefkoe joins to discuss Ace Bailey vs. Shedeur Sanders, Eagles future, Caitlin Clark world tour

An episode of [The Right Time with Bomani Jones](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/982639043), 25 Jun 2025, 1 h 07 min.

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On today's episode of The Right Time, Bomani Jones is joined by Turner Sports' Adam Lefkoe. They discuss Adam's recent stint covering Roland Garros and life in Paris. Later, they break down the bizzare situation with Ace Bailey seemlingly avoiding the Philadelphia 76ers, and how he compares to Shedeur Sanders. After the break, Adam asks Bomani a series of random questions about the Thunder & Eagles future, a potential Caitlin Clark World tour, and what smoking weed with Stephen A. Smith would be like. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:05] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
[0:09] Speaker 1: My name is Bobani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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[0:16] Speaker 1: rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only
[0:18] Speaker 1: give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are
[0:21] Speaker 1: a hater. It is that time of week that we
[0:23] Speaker 1: have a guest join us. And the first time that
[0:25] Speaker 1: we've had somebody go full asshole and put on sunglasses
[0:29] Speaker 1: for right as the show started, right before. He doesn't
[0:32] Speaker 1: have pink eye. You know what I'm saying? He doesn't
[0:35] Speaker 1: have a sty or anything like that. But Adam Lefkoe
[0:38] Speaker 1: just decided he wanted to be a little cooler than
[0:40] Speaker 1: the rest of us.
[0:42] Speaker 2: It's 99 degrees out there today, Bo.
[0:44] Speaker 1: It is 99 degrees out there. And I'll tell you.
[0:46] Speaker 2: I can't do it. I can't do it. I've always
[0:48] Speaker 2: wanted to be the guy that says I can't do it.
[0:50] Speaker 1: I'm going to tell people something Adam and I were
[0:52] Speaker 1: talking about coming in on this. Okay. So I'm having
[0:55] Speaker 1: a sofa delivery today. Um, the plan for me on
[0:59] Speaker 1: getting the sofa delivered was actually that yesterday I was
[1:03] Speaker 1: going to go pick. Okay. So the thing was I
[1:05] Speaker 1: bought the sofa on Saturday and they said on Sunday,
[1:09] Speaker 1: the moving company would call me and I'm like, cool.
[1:11] Speaker 1: That means that you'll deliver it. on Monday. But on Sunday,
[1:14] Speaker 1: the moving company did not deliver. I called the store
[1:17] Speaker 1: and they said, you'll hear from them on Tuesday. Or
[1:20] Speaker 1: at least I thought she said that I would hear
[1:21] Speaker 1: from them on Tuesday. I'm like, damn, if I ain't
[1:23] Speaker 1: even going to hear from them till Tuesday, ain't no
[1:26] Speaker 1: telling when they're actually going to bring the stuff. And
[1:29] Speaker 1: so I had to go to my, what do you
[1:30] Speaker 1: do when you don't live in New York situation? Like
[1:33] Speaker 1: who got the trucks? So I went on one of
[1:35] Speaker 1: the car rental apps to get a truck. And I
[1:38] Speaker 1: was like, yo, I'm not paying $ 200. And then it
[1:40] Speaker 1: dawned on me, There's a whole company called U-Haul that
[1:45] Speaker 1: exists for this very purpose. And U-Haul is one of
[1:48] Speaker 1: the rare things where the price everywhere else is the
[1:51] Speaker 1: same as the price in New York City. $ 19. 95 for
[1:55] Speaker 1: the day plus miles. I said, cool. I'm going to
[1:57] Speaker 1: get to U-Haul. I'm going to go down. They're going
[1:59] Speaker 1: to put the couch in the cargo van. They got
[2:02] Speaker 1: the nine-foot cargo van. They're going to put that in
[2:05] Speaker 1: the van. And then I'll drive back up here. And
[2:07] Speaker 1: then I'll have somebody meet me. We'll take it upstairs. Boom.
[2:10] Speaker 1: That's what's up. Man, I called to set that up.
[2:13] Speaker 1: And Buddy says, well, actually, we're already here on Monday.
[2:17] Speaker 1: He says, well, we're actually already. Oh, he called me.
[2:19] Speaker 1: That's right. He called me. And he's like, all right,
[2:21] Speaker 1: but we've already got the couch. And I'm like, man,
[2:25] Speaker 1: how do I get out of this? Because I'm going
[2:26] Speaker 1: to save like a couple hundred dollars by doing this myself.
[2:29] Speaker 1: And then I looked at the weather and it was
[2:30] Speaker 1: already 80 something degrees at nine o'clock in the morning.
[2:34] Speaker 1: I was like, nah, homie, you got it. No chance.
[2:38] Speaker 2: A few things here. Number one. I can't imagine you
[2:43] Speaker 2: doing well driving a U-Haul.
[2:45] Speaker 1: It's a cargo bay.
[2:46] Speaker 2: You like trying to like back into a spot with
[2:50] Speaker 2: a huge vehicle. I just don't trust it. I don't know.
[2:53] Speaker 2: You have no reason to feel this way. Having hung
[2:57] Speaker 2: out with you before, I just like, I know that I,
[3:01] Speaker 2: I think that you've outlived moving your own furniture. Oh, absolutely. Yes.
[3:07] Speaker 2: You are a, let me hire some European.
[3:10] Speaker 1: Men to move a sofa into my. Yes.
[3:13] Speaker 2: Like, dude, sweating and like trying to back around a corner.
[3:18] Speaker 1: But no, no, no. But this is the thing about
[3:20] Speaker 1: going through U-Haul that I hadn't thought about. For the low,
[3:23] Speaker 1: low price of $ 7, they give you the dolly.
[3:28] Speaker 2: Get out of here, bro. You're not wheeling a dolly.
[3:31] Speaker 2: I don't see you doing this.
[3:32] Speaker 1: Me and my brother moved a chair on Saturday. If
[3:36] Speaker 1: you called me and you're like.
[3:37] Speaker 2: Hey, can you move a couch? I'd be like, Bomani,
[3:39] Speaker 2: you've made too much money.
[3:40] Speaker 1: I agree with you. On a general basis, you are correct.
[3:43] Speaker 1: But I thought it was going to take them like
[3:47] Speaker 1: a week or so to bring this couch. And I
[3:50] Speaker 1: was like, okay. I mean, moving the chair wasn't that hard.
[3:53] Speaker 1: We ain't have no dolly. But I called an Uber XXL,
[3:57] Speaker 1: which I did not know existed. What? What?
[3:59] Speaker 2: Yes.
[4:00] Speaker 1: They have an Uber XXL and I learned it existed
[4:02] Speaker 1: because the Uber XL was not up to the task.
[4:05] Speaker 1: And so I was able to move these chains in.
[4:08] Speaker 1: That was no problem. You know what I'm saying? I
[4:10] Speaker 1: think you got a misunderstanding, man. I'm still salt of
[4:13] Speaker 1: the earth. You know what I'm saying?
[4:16] Speaker 2: But if you're really salt of the earth, you wait
[4:19] Speaker 2: out the couch and you bring over a chair and
[4:21] Speaker 2: that's your couch for the eight days that you don't
[4:24] Speaker 2: have one. We don't need to be entertaining people. We're
[4:27] Speaker 2: Watching sports, eating food on our lap on a chair.
[4:31] Speaker 1: That's salt of the earth. This is all I'm saying.
[4:35] Speaker 1: I had it in me to move a couch on
[4:38] Speaker 1: a dolly. That I felt like I could do.
[4:41] Speaker 2: Coming up next, Week on Waves.
[4:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
[4:43] Speaker 2: Bomani Couch Moving Olympics.
[4:45] Speaker 1: That's right. What I feel like you out here doing
[4:47] Speaker 1: is you out here projecting your bourgeoisie attitudes and putting
[4:51] Speaker 1: them off on me, a real one. You know what
[4:53] Speaker 1: I'm saying?
[4:55] Speaker 2: I did. I spent weeks in Paris for Roland Garros
[4:59] Speaker 2: and it impacted me. One, I saw a move happen
[5:02] Speaker 2: right outside my hotel. where they set up a truck
[5:05] Speaker 2: and a conveyor belt and they moved this person's furniture
[5:09] Speaker 2: into their third bedroom, third floor apartment in like 40 minutes.
[5:14] Speaker 2: And I was like, why is that not a thing
[5:16] Speaker 2: anywhere else? Why are we all using elevators and dollies
[5:21] Speaker 2: and strapping things to our back? And the other thing
[5:23] Speaker 2: that really resonated with me was we got to the airport.
[5:26] Speaker 2: I was getting picked up by a car and the
[5:28] Speaker 2: guy looked at me and my wife and my baby
[5:31] Speaker 2: and all of our bags and went, oh, no, no, no, no, no.
[5:34] Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We had
[5:37] Speaker 2: gotten a van, but the vans in Europe are not
[5:40] Speaker 2: big enough. And I just realized Americans live very different.
[5:43] Speaker 1: We do.
[5:44] Speaker 2: And I wasn't ready for it.
[5:46] Speaker 1: They are much more compact about space. Like New York
[5:49] Speaker 1: is more compact about space than the rest of America.
[5:51] Speaker 1: But those other places that are somehow actually they feel
[5:53] Speaker 1: more crowded. than new york city does not necessarily like
[5:57] Speaker 1: more people or like that avalanche but still just like
[6:00] Speaker 1: a little uh a little more crowded right this actually
[6:04] Speaker 1: dawned on me and i'm gonna get back to your
[6:06] Speaker 1: trip to paris and a rich people thought about moving
[6:08] Speaker 1: right quick before we talk about ashley's boy do you
[6:12] Speaker 1: ride the subway yes okay okay just making sure.
[6:15] Speaker 2: Not all the time I wouldn't do it today.
[6:18] Speaker 1: I do most of the time slash all of the time.
[6:21] Speaker 1: But today is.
[6:22] Speaker 2: So on a 99 degree day.
[6:23] Speaker 1: But today is a medical emergency. Like this is a little.
[6:26] Speaker 1: I opted out of going to do yoga at a
[6:28] Speaker 1: studio yesterday because I was just like, I'm not going
[6:31] Speaker 1: back outside. I made this mistake once. Yeah.
[6:34] Speaker 2: If it's hot, I'm not using the subway at all.
[6:36] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[6:37] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[6:37] Speaker 1: Yeah. And I'll.
[6:39] Speaker 2: Bro, I'm not trying to sweat and get stared at
[6:42] Speaker 2: and like bump into people. And then someone's trying to
[6:45] Speaker 2: sell me a candy bar. And then there's a drum solo.
[6:48] Speaker 2: Like sometimes, bro, like you talk about the Uber. Those
[6:52] Speaker 2: are the days where I'm going to go for an
[6:53] Speaker 2: extra $ 9. I'm going to get an Uber Black. Yeah.
[6:56] Speaker 2: And I'm going to really soak this in.
[6:58] Speaker 1: It's way more than an extra $ 9. But number two,
[7:03] Speaker 1: the richest thing I've heard of people doing in New York,
[7:06] Speaker 1: a mutual friend of ours used to work with a
[7:08] Speaker 1: very rich person. Um, and the very rich person lived
[7:12] Speaker 1: in a tall building. And what happens is those people
[7:15] Speaker 1: there sometimes, and this happens, I mean, this, this has
[7:19] Speaker 1: happened to me, but it's happens a lot in New
[7:21] Speaker 1: York buildings where you're, the hallways are too narrow for
[7:25] Speaker 1: them to turn the corner with your couch coming out
[7:27] Speaker 1: of the elevator. And so you have to make a
[7:29] Speaker 1: decision about how you want to do it with the couch.
[7:31] Speaker 1: And that will cut your couch in half for you
[7:35] Speaker 1: and then come put it back together. Or they'll figure
[7:38] Speaker 1: out like where it is under the stitching that they
[7:40] Speaker 1: can split in half and do all this. But the
[7:42] Speaker 1: real rich people, they got them couches that's made out
[7:45] Speaker 1: of one piece, right? You can't do that. Them jokers
[7:49] Speaker 1: get cranes.
[7:51] Speaker 2: Bezos just did this.
[7:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, you get a crane to hold your couch and
[7:56] Speaker 1: then they swang that bitch over the balcony and put
[7:59] Speaker 1: it there and then they bring it in.
[8:02] Speaker 2: One day, Bo, we'll be that lucky.
[8:04] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[8:04] Speaker 2: Crane couches.
[8:05] Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, that's what they do, right? And so they
[8:09] Speaker 1: swing that thing over there. Now... My next thing is,
[8:15] Speaker 1: as we get to you having gone to cover the
[8:17] Speaker 1: French Open at Roland Garros, I watched you on television.
[8:21] Speaker 1: You did a good job, and everybody that was watching
[8:24] Speaker 1: you said you did a good job. Like, they out
[8:26] Speaker 1: here killing other people doing television, not Lefkoe. No, sir.
[8:30] Speaker 1: Lefkoe and them got all the props, and then I
[8:32] Speaker 1: just realized you got a job that lets you take
[8:35] Speaker 1: your queen to gay Paris.
[8:39] Speaker 2: That was nice. That's a good sell. However, when you
[8:42] Speaker 2: take your wife and your baby to Paris for 10
[8:44] Speaker 2: days and there's no nanny and there's no grandma and
[8:46] Speaker 2: there's no grandpa, and by day seven, she walks to
[8:50] Speaker 2: the set with the baby and looks at me and goes,
[8:52] Speaker 2: I need something. I need some help right now. And
[8:55] Speaker 2: you're like, I have 15 hours of live television to do,
[8:59] Speaker 2: but give me the child.
[9:00] Speaker 1: You ain't bringing a nanny?
[9:02] Speaker 2: No.
[9:02] Speaker 1: What?
[9:03] Speaker 2: See, like now we're talking rich. That's rich, rich.
[9:06] Speaker 1: You got the free trip to Paris.
[9:10] Speaker 2: You got the free trip.
[9:11] Speaker 1: You had the free hotel. Like I hate to spend
[9:13] Speaker 1: your money.
[9:14] Speaker 2: It was the first trip. And I think we needed
[9:17] Speaker 2: to see, cause again, like you said, like you're going
[9:20] Speaker 2: to move a couch. We're going to take care of
[9:22] Speaker 2: our child, you know, but until you're four, until you're
[9:26] Speaker 2: turning that corner, until you're on day seven, you don't
[9:29] Speaker 2: realize what that's like. And it's wild. Well, I realized
[9:33] Speaker 2: it was amazing. It was amazing.
[9:34] Speaker 1: Among the nanny community. She is shitting on you, brother. Like,
[9:40] Speaker 1: one of the perks of the nanny life is the
[9:43] Speaker 1: occasional trip to the fly place.
[9:45] Speaker 2: Oh, no, you're absolutely wrong. She got paid to sit
[9:47] Speaker 2: at home and do nothing.
[9:49] Speaker 1: I think she'd rather gotten paid to go to Paris.
[9:52] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[9:53] Speaker 1: I think she'd rather gotten paid to go to Paris.
[9:55] Speaker 2: She's uh from saint vincent so her and her sisters
[9:59] Speaker 2: and brothers were partying i hear.
[10:00] Speaker 1: You i hear you i'm just telling you i feel
[10:03] Speaker 1: like when she gets around the other nannies they're like
[10:05] Speaker 1: you didn't go you didn't get to go to paris.
[10:07] Speaker 2: There well listen tnt has rolling arrows for 10 years
[10:11] Speaker 2: so hopefully they're listen like that's the cool part of
[10:15] Speaker 2: the job is man am i going to be doing
[10:17] Speaker 2: this every year for like the, my child's childhood. Like,
[10:22] Speaker 2: is he going to get like yearly trips to Paris? Um,
[10:26] Speaker 2: but no, the, the funny thing is this, um, I
[10:29] Speaker 2: have always been on the other side where a sporting
[10:31] Speaker 2: event goes so well that all of the broadcasters get
[10:35] Speaker 2: credit for it. And I'm not saying I didn't do
[10:38] Speaker 2: a good job, but what I'm saying is it was
[10:40] Speaker 2: really cool to be on the side where Alcaraz and
[10:43] Speaker 2: Sinner like fought for five and a half hours and
[10:46] Speaker 2: in a top five match all time. And people afterwards
[10:49] Speaker 2: were like, TNT did a great job. And I'm like,
[10:53] Speaker 2: we never give the athletes credit for making broadcasters see, like,
[10:58] Speaker 2: we're always like, wow, what a call. And it's like,
[11:01] Speaker 2: all right, well, that was the catch. You know, like,
[11:03] Speaker 2: or that was, you know, the miracle at the Meadowlands.
[11:06] Speaker 2: So I want to say thank you to center and
[11:08] Speaker 2: Alcaraz and Coco golf for giving us some awesome stuff.
[11:12] Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember what else was going on the
[11:14] Speaker 1: day of that center Alcaraz match, but I saw people
[11:16] Speaker 1: tweeting about it, but I never got around to like,
[11:20] Speaker 1: you didn't watch a single second. No, I didn't. I
[11:23] Speaker 1: found out it was, they played.
[11:24] Speaker 2: For five and a half hours and you weren't like.
[11:26] Speaker 1: No, but that's what, but that's what I think happened.
[11:28] Speaker 1: I think I found out about it. Something else was
[11:31] Speaker 1: going on. And this was in the course of me
[11:32] Speaker 1: moving and all of this stuff. Right. So cut me
[11:34] Speaker 1: some slack. But it was one of those where it
[11:37] Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's been going on so long. I mean, damn,
[11:39] Speaker 1: I already missed it. And then it went on for
[11:41] Speaker 1: like another hour and a half type situation.
[11:44] Speaker 2: It's what was really cool to be a part of
[11:47] Speaker 2: is it was cool to be a part of a
[11:49] Speaker 2: sport that everybody went, man, Rafa and Federer and Djokovic
[11:54] Speaker 2: are all done. This sport's going to dip like the NBA.
[11:57] Speaker 2: Once they lost MJ, there was a dip. You know,
[12:01] Speaker 2: we do this with all sports. Tom Brady lost. And
[12:04] Speaker 2: then for these two dudes to come along and go, oh,
[12:08] Speaker 2: they're going to carry it for the next two decades.
[12:10] Speaker 2: And this is the first time they've ever faced off
[12:13] Speaker 2: in a final. That's cool. It's kind of, it felt
[12:15] Speaker 2: like a seminal moment for the sport itself.
[12:18] Speaker 1: I think that a sport like tennis is always going
[12:20] Speaker 1: to be okay in that regard because nobody really like,
[12:24] Speaker 1: There are those great players who stuck around forever, but
[12:26] Speaker 1: not redefining players. Like no game is really quite as static.
[12:31] Speaker 1: There aren't as many rule changes that you can make
[12:34] Speaker 1: to change. The equipment changes over the years, of course,
[12:37] Speaker 1: with the big one. But we're so far beyond the
[12:39] Speaker 1: shift from wooden rackets to the graphite for that, like
[12:42] Speaker 1: to really even count or to be the thing. It
[12:45] Speaker 1: is the game that it basically always is. And then
[12:47] Speaker 1: there's just somebody that's way better than everybody else. And
[12:50] Speaker 1: when two people are really good at tennis and they
[12:52] Speaker 1: play against each other in tennis, it's really, really interesting
[12:55] Speaker 1: to watch, right? And the French Open makes it better
[12:57] Speaker 1: because once you have the advances in the technology, the
[13:02] Speaker 1: long rallies, the French Open still gives you the long rallies.
[13:05] Speaker 2: It gives you those. And I, dude, so again, learning
[13:08] Speaker 2: a new sport is crazy because when you've been in
[13:12] Speaker 2: sports for 20 years, you kind of think you know
[13:14] Speaker 2: a lot. And then you start watching the tennis channel
[13:17] Speaker 2: every day and you're watching clay court season. And I'm learning,
[13:21] Speaker 2: you know, all these Sabalenkas and Svianteks, these names and
[13:26] Speaker 2: where they're from and all that. But then like they
[13:29] Speaker 2: just started playing on grass. They're getting ready for Wimbledon.
[13:31] Speaker 2: And I put on a match and I went, oh,
[13:33] Speaker 2: this is a different sport. Like it's a completely different sport.
[13:37] Speaker 2: All the players that were really good at clay are
[13:39] Speaker 2: not great on grass. And so I feel it's cool
[13:44] Speaker 2: to be learning something for the first time. Like I
[13:47] Speaker 2: always watch tennis, but like you don't really study it.
[13:51] Speaker 2: And I think I had been in NBA and NFL
[13:54] Speaker 2: world for so long, it felt nice to actually learn again.
[13:57] Speaker 2: It's good for the brain.
[13:58] Speaker 1: I feel that. Now, let me ask you, speaking of NBA,
[14:01] Speaker 1: you are a resident Philadelphian, which I only have a
[14:05] Speaker 1: problem with if it's baseball season. God, I hate the Phillies.
[14:08] Speaker 2: Who's your team? Braves?
[14:10] Speaker 1: I grew up with the Braves. Yeah.
[14:12] Speaker 2: Man, what a shitty year for you right now, huh?
[14:16] Speaker 1: I have a relationship with the Braves now where if
[14:19] Speaker 1: it's going well, I'm here.
[14:21] Speaker 2: If not Bryce Harper, the original Caitlin Clark of baseball.
[14:24] Speaker 1: Anyway, no, no, no. I actually find the Bryce Harper
[14:26] Speaker 1: story to be so interesting because we were all so
[14:30] Speaker 1: sure that he was going to be a jerk. And
[14:31] Speaker 1: it really turned out to be the opposite case.
[14:33] Speaker 2: And he was great.
[14:34] Speaker 1: You know, like like we were. There's no way any
[14:37] Speaker 1: of us thought that after the Sports Illustrated cover when
[14:40] Speaker 1: he was in high school and all of that stuff.
[14:42] Speaker 1: there's no way possible that anybody could have thought that
[14:44] Speaker 1: he would turn out to be the personality archetype that
[14:47] Speaker 1: he actually is. Like a player perfectly made for Philadelphia.
[14:52] Speaker 1: None of us, none of us would have had that.
[14:56] Speaker 2: It's not to transition for you, but there are things
[14:59] Speaker 2: that young people do that we unfairly criticize them for,
[15:03] Speaker 2: for a while. And Ace Bailey's doing that right now.
[15:07] Speaker 1: That is. So I think all of us thought going
[15:10] Speaker 1: into this draft, whoever gets the number three pick, They're
[15:13] Speaker 1: going to take Ace Bailey, right?
[15:15] Speaker 2: Take him.
[15:15] Speaker 1: But one thing that happened that is amazing, they told
[15:18] Speaker 1: us he was 6'10 and he's 6'7 and a half.
[15:22] Speaker 2: Brother, they were telling us he was 6'11.
[15:23] Speaker 1: Yo, first of all.
[15:25] Speaker 2: I covered early on Alabama Rutgers. It was like game
[15:29] Speaker 2: two or three. I was in studio. And one, I
[15:33] Speaker 2: watched Dylan Harper and I went, this is Cade Cunningham 2.0. Like,
[15:36] Speaker 2: this guy's incredible. But then every time Ace Bailey took
[15:39] Speaker 2: a shot, I went, and he's 6'11. And he's 6'7 1⁄2.
[15:43] Speaker 1: Right. How did nobody call bullshit on this? The difference
[15:48] Speaker 1: between 6'7 1⁄2 and 6'10, 6'11, is nuts. But that's
[15:52] Speaker 1: what they told us. And I will say this, though.
[15:55] Speaker 1: He sure felt like he was 6'10, those few times
[15:58] Speaker 1: I watched him play.
[15:59] Speaker 2: He looked really long, yeah.
[16:00] Speaker 1: He, so there are people who believe that he is
[16:05] Speaker 1: intentionally taking his draft stock to get to whichever team
[16:09] Speaker 1: that he wants to get to. And I've heard a
[16:10] Speaker 1: couple of teams. I don't think it's responsible.
[16:11] Speaker 2: New Orleans and Washington.
[16:14] Speaker 1: Okay. So yeah, New Orleans is the one that I heard.
[16:16] Speaker 1: That's crazy.
[16:17] Speaker 2: Right.
[16:17] Speaker 1: If you're, if you're playing, if your plan is to
[16:19] Speaker 1: get to New Orleans, I can kind of see it.
[16:22] Speaker 1: If your plan is to get to the Wizards, I
[16:23] Speaker 1: can only assume that you guys are losers.
[16:26] Speaker 2: Right.
[16:26] Speaker 1: Like, why would you? Why would you? What? I'm 44
[16:30] Speaker 1: years old and the Wizards haven't won 50 games in
[16:33] Speaker 1: my life. I've been doing that bit right there for
[16:38] Speaker 1: 15 years. No correction for 18 years. And I've never
[16:42] Speaker 1: had to stop. I think they got to 49 one time.
[16:45] Speaker 1: But he I admit this also. There is a certain
[16:50] Speaker 1: level of assumption that I make about how good Mr.
[16:54] Speaker 1: Bailey is. based on the fact that he has convinced
[16:57] Speaker 1: all these people to call him Ace. What's his actual name? A-I-R-U-S,
[17:01] Speaker 1: I believe.
[17:05] Speaker 2: A-I-R-U-S.
[17:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, let me look this up. You get everybody to
[17:10] Speaker 1: call you a name like Ace, then I'm like, A-I-R-I-O-U-S.
[17:14] Speaker 2: Dude, we called Daniel Gibson Boobie his entire career.
[17:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, but see, that's different though, right? Boobie is clearly
[17:20] Speaker 1: what your mom and your people called you and then
[17:21] Speaker 1: somebody went home and- Could have been Ace. No, but Ace.
[17:25] Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of other nicknames like- That's like
[17:28] Speaker 1: when they call you Shaq. You're something if they make
[17:32] Speaker 1: the decision to call you Shaq. You're a big guy,
[17:34] Speaker 1: if nothing else, if they decide to call you Shaq.
[17:35] Speaker 2: So you're saying the nickname, the name Ace, you have
[17:39] Speaker 2: to be a top three pick.
[17:40] Speaker 1: Got it. That implies that you a beast for real.
[17:43] Speaker 1: You know, like those people who named their kids. Actually,
[17:46] Speaker 1: it's going to be kind of funny. These people who
[17:48] Speaker 1: named their kids King Ace.
[17:50] Speaker 2: You're an asshole.
[17:51] Speaker 1: No, I didn't do it on purpose. It dawned on
[17:53] Speaker 1: me as I started. I didn't do it on purpose. No,
[17:55] Speaker 1: but King and Prince are different spaces, right?
[17:57] Speaker 2: My son's name is Prince.
[17:58] Speaker 1: Yeah, Prince is a different space. But when you go
[18:00] Speaker 1: all the way to King, right? Because look, when you
[18:03] Speaker 1: name him Prince, he's still a prince, right? Like he's
[18:06] Speaker 1: still in this space. When you go all the way
[18:08] Speaker 1: to King, that motherfucker better be a beast.
[18:11] Speaker 2: Well, you know, our second child, which we haven't created yet,
[18:14] Speaker 2: but we might go Lord Lefkoe.
[18:16] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[18:17] Speaker 2: Really?
[18:17] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like, once you go there, you
[18:20] Speaker 1: are telling this kid, the expectations are very clear.
[18:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I don't. After calling the first one Prince,
[18:26] Speaker 2: I don't know where I'm going on the second one.
[18:27] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[18:27] Speaker 2: Because I can't be like, this is Prince and this
[18:29] Speaker 2: is Todd.
[18:29] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[18:30] Speaker 2: I can't do that.
[18:31] Speaker 1: See, to me, once you go with naming the kid Prince- Okay.
[18:35] Speaker 2: How did this turn into this? We're focused on age.
[18:38] Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just saying. All I'm saying is this. Prince
[18:40] Speaker 1: sounds like you may never have to get a job, right?
[18:42] Speaker 1: King sounds like you're the ruler of the world. There's
[18:45] Speaker 1: space between those two things, right? Naming him Prince actually
[18:49] Speaker 1: makes you king, right?
[18:52] Speaker 2: Quick aside. Have you heard of the Mariners catcher Cal
[18:57] Speaker 2: Rowling's nickname? The Big Dumper? Oh, I did.
[19:02] Speaker 1: Nah, can't be.
[19:02] Speaker 2: Incredible. Yes, I knew you didn't know. For those that
[19:06] Speaker 2: don't watch baseball, I'm watching a lot of baseball right now.
[19:08] Speaker 2: Kyle Rowley leads major leagues with 32 home runs. He's
[19:11] Speaker 2: on pace for 67. He's a freaking catcher. And his
[19:14] Speaker 2: very popular nickname is The Big Dumper, which a teammate
[19:18] Speaker 2: gave to him because you know why.
[19:20] Speaker 1: Nah, buddy. We're not taking that out of the locker room.
[19:23] Speaker 1: Or excuse me, the clubhouse. Sorry.
[19:26] Speaker 2: I was going to say, but now the nickname has
[19:27] Speaker 2: taken on a life of its own. Even his mom said, hey,
[19:30] Speaker 2: I'm not really a fan of it, but it's so popular.
[19:33] Speaker 2: Now you're getting known for your butt. You're the big dumper.
[19:36] Speaker 1: You got to come up with another one. You got
[19:37] Speaker 1: to come up with another one because your partners ain't
[19:39] Speaker 1: even supposed to know that. Baseball dudes are kind of weird.
[19:44] Speaker 1: Baseball is... like that is.
[19:48] Speaker 2: Yeah baseball made me think of this do we look
[19:51] Speaker 2: back at some of these nicknames with a little bit
[19:53] Speaker 2: difference now the big unit you know randy.
[19:56] Speaker 1: Johnson i admit that even then i was kind of
[19:58] Speaker 1: like huh what are we what are we going for.
[20:00] Speaker 2: Here oscar robertson the big oh.
[20:07] Speaker 1: I see i see the vision And.
[20:09] Speaker 2: Then I still think the name that has cracked me
[20:11] Speaker 2: out my entire life is Magic Johnson, but that's just me.
[20:15] Speaker 1: Look, okay, this is another great point in line with
[20:18] Speaker 1: what I was saying about Ace. Now, granted, they didn't
[20:20] Speaker 1: start calling Magic Johnson Magic until college, but the point
[20:24] Speaker 1: of how cold Magic Johnson is is we just call
[20:27] Speaker 1: him that. We don't even act like it's weird. We
[20:31] Speaker 1: just call him that. Who's that?
[20:32] Speaker 2: Magic.
[20:33] Speaker 1: You know how good you have to be for us
[20:35] Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, you're Magic. We didn't walk around
[20:37] Speaker 1: calling Jordan Ayer Magic.
[20:41] Speaker 2: He had a few good nicknames. The Black Cat.
[20:43] Speaker 1: The Black Cat is.
[20:45] Speaker 2: But yeah, okay. So my thing with Ace, and I
[20:48] Speaker 2: thought as a Philadelphia fan, I was very offended when
[20:52] Speaker 2: he turned down the workout and the interview when apparently
[20:56] Speaker 2: they had reservations. So, you know, man, tough get at
[20:59] Speaker 2: the Continental in Philly or the Four Seasons. But then
[21:03] Speaker 2: also threw out the first pitch for the Mets the
[21:06] Speaker 2: same weekend. That, to me, was diabolical. For him to
[21:11] Speaker 2: be like, Daryl Morey, I'm not meeting with you, and
[21:13] Speaker 2: now I'm wearing the blue hat of the New York
[21:15] Speaker 2: Mets was crazy. I just feel like he doesn't fit.
[21:22] Speaker 2: Once it came out that he wasn't 6'11, then you
[21:25] Speaker 2: start looking at the advanced analytics, and the advanced analytics
[21:29] Speaker 2: community doesn't like him at all in terms of assists
[21:32] Speaker 2: and athleticism and all this stuff. Then I just started going,
[21:36] Speaker 2: these are the actions of someone who knows the Sixers
[21:39] Speaker 2: are likely not going to take him and are trying
[21:42] Speaker 2: to say, you know what? I don't even want to
[21:45] Speaker 2: go there. So for me, it seems more defensive than aggressive.
[21:51] Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, the Sixers, how can you
[21:53] Speaker 2: trust anything they do? But at the same time, you
[21:56] Speaker 2: talk about him wanting to go to Washington. The Pacers
[22:00] Speaker 2: aren't going to have Halliburton next season. The Celtics aren't
[22:02] Speaker 2: going to have Tatum next season. The Knicks don't have
[22:05] Speaker 2: a coach right now. No one trusts the Cleveland Cavaliers
[22:08] Speaker 2: for anything. Orlando is now a top three team in
[22:12] Speaker 2: the East, according to Vegas. And I'm sitting there going,
[22:15] Speaker 2: the Pistons are 19-1 to win the East. That might
[22:18] Speaker 2: not be crazy. And then meanwhile, you got a maybe
[22:22] Speaker 2: healthy Embiid who won the MVP last If Paul George
[22:26] Speaker 2: comes back to life in year two, you got Halliburton,
[22:29] Speaker 2: you got McCain, you got all these guys, and you
[22:32] Speaker 2: add Ace Bailey, Ace Bailey can learn from Paul George. Like,
[22:35] Speaker 2: it's a really good situation if you're Ace Bailey. You
[22:38] Speaker 2: got a coach that won a championship. It's just people go, well,
[22:43] Speaker 2: Philly's going to Philly. Like, it's a really good spot
[22:45] Speaker 2: for Ace, but I just don't want the guy that's
[22:50] Speaker 2: shorter than we thought he was, slower than he thought
[22:53] Speaker 2: he was, and doesn't show up to workouts. Like, I just,
[22:56] Speaker 2: that guy doesn't have a good track record in my mind.
[22:59] Speaker 2: Because Anthony Edwards didn't go work out for teams. But
[23:02] Speaker 2: then I put on Anthony Edwards at Georgia Highlights last night.
[23:05] Speaker 2: And I went, oh, no, no. He didn't have to
[23:07] Speaker 2: go to work out.
[23:08] Speaker 1: No, no.
[23:09] Speaker 2: This is a different guy.
[23:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in the Deion Sanders. Where are y'all picking? 18?
[23:12] Speaker 1: I ain't going to be there at 18.
[23:14] Speaker 2: I'm not going to be there. There's a difference. Ace
[23:18] Speaker 2: is not that. That was different.
[23:21] Speaker 1: Here's my Ace Bailey advanced statistic. And it's also a
[23:25] Speaker 1: Dylan Harper advanced statistic. You're telling me that we're looking
[23:30] Speaker 1: at two to three top picks in the draft and
[23:34] Speaker 1: y'all didn't make the tournament.
[23:37] Speaker 2: Like, I don't know.
[23:38] Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Bingo. I don't know
[23:41] Speaker 1: how either one of them shakes that because we tried
[23:43] Speaker 1: to write that off with Ben Simmons. And yeah, I.
[23:46] Speaker 2: Think Markel Fultz.
[23:47] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[23:47] Speaker 2: And to be fair, Anthony Edwards was less under 500,
[23:50] Speaker 2: but that was different.
[23:51] Speaker 1: Yeah. But I also think, and I think I felt
[23:53] Speaker 1: the same way about Fultz. Like we never saw the
[23:55] Speaker 1: Fultz that people were talking about that got us in.
[23:58] Speaker 1: But with Simmons, to be fair to him, what doomed
[24:02] Speaker 1: him is probably not what made them a team that
[24:04] Speaker 1: didn't make the tournament. Right. Like what ultimately caught up
[24:06] Speaker 1: with him. But these two guys, it's two of you.
[24:10] Speaker 1: How in the world two of you get to play
[24:12] Speaker 1: at the same time? And y'all didn't make the tournament.
[24:15] Speaker 1: I don't care if you're Rutgers or not. Why the
[24:18] Speaker 1: hell did y'all go there anyway? I know, but.
[24:21] Speaker 2: Same reason AJ DeBanso went to BYU.
[24:24] Speaker 1: No, that's still... That is the low-key.
[24:26] Speaker 2: Their games will be on TNT this fall.
[24:29] Speaker 1: That is the low-key amazing story of the year that's
[24:31] Speaker 1: coming up. How do you say his last name again?
[24:33] Speaker 2: I think it's DeBanso.
[24:34] Speaker 1: Okay, so it is this young man. I can't remember
[24:37] Speaker 1: where in Africa he is from, but he's an African cat.
[24:41] Speaker 1: And he went to high school in Utah because the
[24:44] Speaker 1: dude that owns the Jazz floated the bread for him
[24:47] Speaker 1: to go to high school there.
[24:48] Speaker 2: Shout out Ryan Smith.
[24:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, Ryan Smith, yes. And then he's also the guy
[24:52] Speaker 1: that owns their hockey team. But anyway, then they got
[24:54] Speaker 1: him to go to BYU because watch out, BYU is
[24:57] Speaker 1: going to be a player in this NIL era because
[24:58] Speaker 1: that church got cash. So... They got him to go there.
[25:02] Speaker 1: And obviously the plan for Utah is to try to
[25:06] Speaker 1: then draft him. But that's not really the draft of
[25:08] Speaker 1: the lottery doesn't work that well. So how is Ryan
[25:11] Speaker 1: Smith going to figure out how to get the full
[25:13] Speaker 1: payoff with his investment?
[25:15] Speaker 2: Just to clarify, he was. grew up in Massachusetts. Now
[25:19] Speaker 2: he is of Congolese and Jamaican origin. His father grew
[25:22] Speaker 2: up in France, but he is a Boston kid.
[25:25] Speaker 1: Okay. Thank you. That is a, wait a minute.
[25:27] Speaker 2: I just want to clarify.
[25:28] Speaker 1: So he got a Congolese Boston accent.
[25:32] Speaker 2: Congolese Jamaican.
[25:34] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[25:35] Speaker 2: What a combo. And now he's been hanging out with Mormons.
[25:38] Speaker 1: Yes. I don't know. I can't, I got so many
[25:42] Speaker 1: questions about that.
[25:43] Speaker 2: My, my pair, my father and mother-in-law. When they came
[25:48] Speaker 2: over from Nigeria to go to school, the first place
[25:51] Speaker 2: they moved to was Utah. And they were there for two,
[25:54] Speaker 2: three years. And they said it was like, look, Nigerian
[25:58] Speaker 2: people love everybody for the most part. But they say
[26:02] Speaker 2: the people in Utah were the nicest people ever. I
[26:05] Speaker 2: don't think I told this story before, but when my
[26:07] Speaker 2: wife's oldest brother was born in a Utah hospital, there
[26:10] Speaker 2: was a line around the corner of doctors saying, And
[26:14] Speaker 2: my wife's parents were in line and one of the
[26:16] Speaker 2: doctors came and got him and said, you shouldn't be
[26:18] Speaker 2: in this line. And they were in the line because
[26:20] Speaker 2: none of them had seen a black newborn before.
[26:22] Speaker 1: Wow.
[26:24] Speaker 2: And it was like 40 doctors and nurses. But of course, like,
[26:27] Speaker 2: you know, Nigerians, they were like, of course, everybody wants
[26:30] Speaker 2: to see our child. He is the chosen child. Like
[26:34] Speaker 2: this child is the greatest. That's why they call their
[26:37] Speaker 2: kids prince.
[26:38] Speaker 1: They have never seen brilliants. Yes.
[26:40] Speaker 2: Like this.
[26:42] Speaker 1: But.
[26:43] Speaker 2: It's looked at. I had a great time at the
[26:46] Speaker 2: Salt Lake City All-Star game. I mean, you can't really
[26:49] Speaker 2: go out till two, three in the morning, so you
[26:51] Speaker 2: can't live that life. But I thought it was fun.
[26:53] Speaker 1: I have had multiple people tell me that the wildest
[26:56] Speaker 1: night of their lives were in Salt Lake City.
[26:59] Speaker 2: That's scary. I will say this. The one player that
[27:02] Speaker 2: I would take after Cooper Flagg and Dylan Harper that
[27:07] Speaker 2: I'm not really seeing people talk about. It's the BYU
[27:11] Speaker 2: kid that's not going to be there, which is Agor Demmon.
[27:14] Speaker 2: He's like this 6'9 point guard. Go on the YouTube,
[27:18] Speaker 2: watch the highlights. Because I have to do March Madness,
[27:22] Speaker 2: and so you watch a lot of college basketball, and
[27:24] Speaker 2: I just watch this 6'9 point guard stopping and hitting
[27:29] Speaker 2: threes and diming. And I would take, that's my guy.
[27:32] Speaker 2: I think it's important to have a guy. You know,
[27:35] Speaker 2: you can argue about the Ace Bailey's and stuff, but
[27:36] Speaker 2: who's your guy? My guy's Agor Demmon.
[27:39] Speaker 1: I can be honest with you, brother.
[27:41] Speaker 2: Never seen him.
[27:41] Speaker 1: You could have told me BYU had a three-legged, red-headed
[27:44] Speaker 1: Chinese point guard, and I'd have had no clue whatsoever.
[27:51] Speaker 1: I'm familiar with that dude who plays for Florida.
[27:56] Speaker 2: Walter Clayton Jr.
[27:56] Speaker 1: Here we go. Yeah, Pops. That is a very Pops name. Walter?
[28:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a tough one. It does. It sounds
[28:06] Speaker 2: like a fake name that you give it a name.
[28:08] Speaker 1: Honestly, his dad is too young to be Walter Sr. Like,
[28:12] Speaker 1: his dad should be a junior or a third if
[28:15] Speaker 1: we're still out here cranking out Walters.
[28:17] Speaker 2: In our profession of broadcasting, how do draft experts avoid
[28:23] Speaker 2: all blowback for being wrong all the time?
[28:27] Speaker 1: A recognition that it's a very difficult job.
[28:30] Speaker 2: But then they get called experts. So how do we
[28:34] Speaker 2: simultaneously go, no one can be good at this, and
[28:36] Speaker 2: then be like, and now, our expert.
[28:38] Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
[28:39] Speaker 2: How do we do that?
[28:40] Speaker 1: Ty Cobb was the all-time leader in batting average at 367, right?
[28:45] Speaker 1: This is more like a batting average sport than it
[28:47] Speaker 1: is a free throw percentage sport that we're talking about.
[28:50] Speaker 1: That is the argument.
[28:53] Speaker 2: Because that made me think of Mel Kuyper. who went
[28:56] Speaker 2: very viral this year for arguing about Shador Sanders, who
[29:01] Speaker 2: I kind of feel like is suffering the same fate
[29:04] Speaker 2: as A.S. Bailey from this.
[29:06] Speaker 1: But getting horrendous advice from whoever's telling you what to do?
[29:10] Speaker 2: Number one. But I also think, number two, you and
[29:14] Speaker 2: I have both worked for websites that were, it was
[29:17] Speaker 2: very important for clicks. Yes. And as soon as a
[29:21] Speaker 2: draft would end, it would go, okay, here are The
[29:26] Speaker 2: first round mock draft for next year. And because we
[29:30] Speaker 2: worked for those websites, we knew, well, this is a
[29:32] Speaker 2: bunch of crap. Like, who knows? Like, they're just taking
[29:35] Speaker 2: the top ranked sophomores or juniors right Shador was listed
[29:40] Speaker 2: as a top two pick. Ace Bailey was listed as
[29:43] Speaker 2: a top three pick before their seasons began. And I
[29:47] Speaker 2: feel like they had it in their heads the entire season.
[29:50] Speaker 2: I'm that guy. So I'm going to go through the
[29:52] Speaker 2: draft prospect as the guy from a year ago. And
[29:57] Speaker 2: people were like, well, why would you think this? Well,
[29:59] Speaker 2: because the entire off season and beginning of the year,
[30:02] Speaker 2: you called me a top three pick. I think these
[30:06] Speaker 2: bullshit mock drafts, these way too early mock drafts that
[30:11] Speaker 2: we know are nonsense is impacting the youth. That's what
[30:15] Speaker 2: I think.
[30:15] Speaker 1: I think there's something to that, right? And this is
[30:17] Speaker 1: the generation that comes up with star lists, right? So
[30:19] Speaker 1: like you come up as whatever star guy. Now, of course,
[30:22] Speaker 1: Shadurah Sanders should know I came up as a no
[30:24] Speaker 1: star or a two star or three star or whatever
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[33:34] Speaker 1: You can do Adam. Thank you for permission, sir. I
[33:37] Speaker 1: appreciate that. When I did the alt cast with you,
[33:39] Speaker 1: which I was.
[33:40] Speaker 2: Very- You're a Beaumont-y.
[33:42] Speaker 1: That's different though. Well, no, it's not. Anyway. Yeah, yeah.
[33:46] Speaker 1: You're not wrong. How often do.
[33:48] Speaker 2: People call you Mr. Jones? I mean, at the bank-
[33:54] Speaker 2: They better say Mr. Joe.
[33:55] Speaker 1: We all let that sit. We all let that sit.
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[34:20] Speaker 1: I was really disappointed. I was hoping that we were
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[34:25] Speaker 1: a lot of fun.
[34:26] Speaker 2: You were you were making.
[34:26] Speaker 1: Oh, God, it was so good. But it was such
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[34:35] Speaker 2: There was a lot of changes this year in media.
[34:38] Speaker 1: Well, there was that, right? And I'm still not sure
[34:41] Speaker 1: if Chris got over it when they asked me if
[34:44] Speaker 1: me and Chris Hayes did a podcast, what it would
[34:46] Speaker 1: be called. And I was like, oh, the Beaumont Jones Show.
[34:49] Speaker 1: I don't think he thought that was nearly as funny.
[34:50] Speaker 2: As I did. But yeah, I have questions for you.
[34:56] Speaker 2: I have 50 questions for you.
[34:57] Speaker 1: All right.
[34:58] Speaker 2: And I just need you to pick a number one
[35:00] Speaker 2: through 50. And I'm going to go through, it's called
[35:02] Speaker 2: Lefkoe GPT. It's random questions that I may or may
[35:06] Speaker 2: not have eaten a cookie and thought about that I
[35:09] Speaker 2: thought you would enjoy.
[35:10] Speaker 1: All right.
[35:10] Speaker 2: So whenever you're ready.
[35:11] Speaker 1: My mother's birthday was yesterday, the 23rd. So I am
[35:14] Speaker 1: going to go with 23. Okay. 23. I like that.
[35:17] Speaker 2: 23 is my Gen Z question.
[35:18] Speaker 1: Oh, no.
[35:25] Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw, but after the title,
[35:27] Speaker 2: Oklahoma City partied for reported 8 to 10 minutes. Reporters
[35:31] Speaker 2: were saying it was the most subdued locker room they
[35:34] Speaker 2: had ever seen. J-Dub took his first ever drink of
[35:38] Speaker 2: alcohol and called it disgusting. Recent studies say that Gen
[35:43] Speaker 2: Z drinks 20% less than millennials. Are the championship ragers
[35:48] Speaker 2: a thing of the past?
[35:49] Speaker 1: So I found that to be interesting. Also, I, as non-drinker,
[35:54] Speaker 1: was like, huh, good for you kids, right? Like you
[35:57] Speaker 1: guys are not getting pressured into this because that's a
[35:59] Speaker 1: very easy thing that can happen. Are the championship ragers over? Nah,
[36:05] Speaker 1: because I don't know if a team this young, like
[36:08] Speaker 1: this isn't necessarily going to be a thing. Like I
[36:10] Speaker 1: want to see how the zoomers- Is.
[36:12] Speaker 2: This not the canary in the coal mine to show
[36:14] Speaker 2: us what these kids, like you just think when they
[36:16] Speaker 2: turn 26, they're going to start drinking?
[36:18] Speaker 1: Well, no, I think that the next year, if you
[36:21] Speaker 1: get a team with a few more grownups, it'll start
[36:23] Speaker 1: looking a little different. it is entirely possible that as
[36:27] Speaker 1: things go on, as life goes on, them boys start
[36:30] Speaker 1: turning to the bottle a little differently. You never know
[36:35] Speaker 1: how it's going to play. But what I thought was
[36:37] Speaker 1: most interesting was Alice Caruso being the only person that
[36:41] Speaker 1: knew how to open a champagne bottle. And I think
[36:44] Speaker 1: that this is a function partially of Zoomer and partially
[36:47] Speaker 1: of We live in Oklahoma City. This stuff just doesn't
[36:51] Speaker 1: come up in our world. Apparently, I don't know what
[36:54] Speaker 1: they spent all night doing, playing Fortnite and, well, I
[36:58] Speaker 1: won't say that other part, but playing a lot of Fortnite.
[37:01] Speaker 2: After Coco Gauff won the finals in studio and they're going, hey,
[37:08] Speaker 2: we're probably going to get Coco Gauff in the next
[37:09] Speaker 2: hour or two for an interview. Oh, amazing. I had
[37:13] Speaker 2: a runner go and get us seven bottles of champagne
[37:16] Speaker 2: and my idea was should we just do an NBA
[37:19] Speaker 2: locker celebration with Coco and I'm sitting there with like
[37:22] Speaker 2: Jim Currier and Chrissy Everett they're like we're not getting
[37:25] Speaker 2: sprayed by champagne I was like okay never mind never
[37:27] Speaker 2: mind but then when she came in I said here
[37:30] Speaker 2: you go and she goes I've never popped a bottle
[37:32] Speaker 2: of champagne before and I was like really so I
[37:36] Speaker 2: taught her how to do it she popped it and
[37:38] Speaker 2: then she went I've never had champagne either and Cause
[37:41] Speaker 2: I'm 21 years old. And the last time I won,
[37:44] Speaker 2: I was 18 years old, the U S open. And
[37:47] Speaker 2: that was her first time. And I'm like, it's just
[37:50] Speaker 2: not a, you know, man, when we were 19, get
[37:53] Speaker 2: closing on 21.
[37:53] Speaker 1: Well, did you ever drink at all? Yeah. I had
[37:56] Speaker 1: my run. I had my run.
[37:57] Speaker 2: So you had the anticipation of drinking.
[38:00] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[38:00] Speaker 2: They don't even have that.
[38:01] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[38:02] Speaker 2: They're not interested.
[38:03] Speaker 1: That is. Yeah. That I did think that that was
[38:06] Speaker 1: a fascinating thing to watch. Just the idea that they
[38:09] Speaker 1: were just kind of like, no, we're going to do this.
[38:11] Speaker 1: They didn't go to Vegas. That shocked me because I
[38:15] Speaker 1: was certain that they would be on the first thing.
[38:18] Speaker 1: I would have been on the first thing smoking. The
[38:21] Speaker 1: only team I could think of that wasn't on the
[38:23] Speaker 1: first thing smoking was the Mavericks because they were already
[38:25] Speaker 1: in Miami and they just went and bought out Lyft.
[38:28] Speaker 2: Those are the ones that I think about are the
[38:30] Speaker 2: Mavericks at like a club in Miami. I also am curious.
[38:34] Speaker 2: I saw, and I guess it's always been like this.
[38:36] Speaker 2: There were like a lot of reporters in the locker
[38:38] Speaker 2: room that are like, you know, they go there expecting
[38:41] Speaker 2: to get champagne. Like they're the ones reporting that it
[38:43] Speaker 2: was lame. Yeah. I believe that there should be like
[38:46] Speaker 2: 20 minutes of no media. And if, but like maybe
[38:49] Speaker 2: there's cameras in the corner so we can document it.
[38:52] Speaker 2: But like, I would also have a hard time partying
[38:55] Speaker 2: if like, I don't know, like an older reporter was
[38:58] Speaker 2: there being like, how is this? Like, I wouldn't want
[39:01] Speaker 2: to party.
[39:01] Speaker 1: Wow, what a meme you just made there. But their collective, like, athletes'
[39:06] Speaker 1: collective ability to act like nobody's watching is amazing. Like
[39:09] Speaker 1: the whole, hey, we're playing in front of 20,000 people
[39:11] Speaker 1: and acting like nobody's watching. Like that is a crazy
[39:13] Speaker 1: thing to me generally that they are, you know, that
[39:15] Speaker 1: they could be able to do. But I also think
[39:17] Speaker 1: what happened in the rationale behind a lot of the
[39:19] Speaker 1: criticism from the reporters about that People who do drink
[39:23] Speaker 1: are made very uncomfortable quite often by people who do not.
[39:27] Speaker 1: And the people in there and we we work in
[39:29] Speaker 1: a hard drinking industry right they them kids not drinking
[39:33] Speaker 1: make a lot of people look at themselves like damn
[39:38] Speaker 1: what kind of life am i living because i didn't
[39:39] Speaker 1: even win the championship but i can't wait to go
[39:42] Speaker 1: get fucked up after we get out.
[39:43] Speaker 2: Of here i've never thought about it you are right
[39:47] Speaker 2: People in broadcasting and media love to get that drink
[39:50] Speaker 2: after work. And then they show you a completely different
[39:53] Speaker 2: side of themselves.
[39:54] Speaker 1: Yes.
[39:54] Speaker 2: And you're like, wait, this is who you are? Wow.
[39:58] Speaker 1: I had no idea. Yeah.
[40:01] Speaker 2: And in fact, I kind of like the other version.
[40:04] Speaker 2: I do have a follow-up for your question number 23,
[40:06] Speaker 2: because I think it gets to a bigger point. We
[40:10] Speaker 2: had people criticizing Tatum last year for not being original
[40:14] Speaker 2: with Kobe and Halliburton was getting some hate, I guess,
[40:17] Speaker 2: about like the D Wade stuff. This goes back to
[40:21] Speaker 2: this Gen Z. I'm watching graduations where people are putting
[40:24] Speaker 2: the chat GPT logo on their cap, just like admitting
[40:27] Speaker 2: that they use it. Are we also experiencing the death
[40:31] Speaker 2: of originality in sports? And is it their fault or
[40:35] Speaker 2: is it just like a copy and paste situation?
[40:38] Speaker 1: Like, will we ever get it back? No, I don't
[40:40] Speaker 1: think we'll get it back. And it's not just sports.
[40:41] Speaker 1: I just saw a trailer on TV the other day.
[40:44] Speaker 1: They're remaking I Know What You Did Last Summer. Right.
[40:49] Speaker 1: It's not like we're just like knocking off the dust
[40:51] Speaker 1: off classics and like giving a new spin on something. Right.
[40:54] Speaker 1: Like you could always break out Othello, for example.
[40:57] Speaker 2: Right.
[40:57] Speaker 1: Like, you know, like you've always got that. No, we
[41:00] Speaker 1: are some total like when they when they brought back
[41:03] Speaker 1: the great. But who are the chefs commercial for Snickers?
[41:06] Speaker 1: I can't tell if they brought it back as an
[41:10] Speaker 1: homage or they were just like they won't. They might
[41:13] Speaker 1: not even know. That this is what it was. But
[41:16] Speaker 1: everywhere across the board, I look at it in the
[41:18] Speaker 1: creation of all these things. Have you watched the studio,
[41:22] Speaker 1: the Seth Rogen joint on Apple TV?
[41:25] Speaker 2: I haven't, so I can't add.
[41:26] Speaker 1: Okay, so there's a running theme, and I'm not ruining
[41:30] Speaker 1: anything by saying this, but a running thing about it
[41:32] Speaker 1: is that studio owns the intellectual property for the Kool-Aid man.
[41:39] Speaker 1: And so it's all about making a Kool-Aid man movie
[41:42] Speaker 1: and how valuable it is that you have the IP
[41:45] Speaker 1: for something like the Kool-Aid man. But everything is knocking
[41:49] Speaker 1: the dust off of something that was already done. So
[41:51] Speaker 1: like the thing with Tatum, I didn't get I didn't
[41:54] Speaker 1: get on Tatum that hard because I was like, if
[41:56] Speaker 1: you live on your phone and live on the Internet
[41:59] Speaker 1: and on the Internet, people speak in meme. Then when
[42:02] Speaker 1: it becomes your time, you are going to speak in
[42:06] Speaker 1: a meme because that's what gets the people going when
[42:08] Speaker 1: you do it on the internet.
[42:09] Speaker 2: I want to ask question number one because it all
[42:13] Speaker 2: goes with this. I have noticed a few sports media
[42:16] Speaker 2: personalities that are suddenly posting on X long and thorough
[42:21] Speaker 2: takes that have all the qualities of of a word
[42:24] Speaker 2: for word chat GPT generated response. I'm not gonna say
[42:28] Speaker 2: their names now. I will show you the tweets afterwards.
[42:31] Speaker 2: Should these people feel shame for not sharing original ideas
[42:35] Speaker 2: on a social media platform that's all about that, or
[42:39] Speaker 2: are they using a tool to refine their ideas?
[42:41] Speaker 1: No, you fucking dork. You can't come up with a
[42:44] Speaker 1: take by yourself. First of all, it ain't gotta be long.
[42:47] Speaker 2: Right?
[42:47] Speaker 1: There's nothing dumber than giving away for free in long
[42:50] Speaker 1: form on the tweets in the first place. People ain't
[42:53] Speaker 1: got no attention span for all of that. No, those
[42:56] Speaker 1: people should be ashamed of themselves. I did not know
[42:59] Speaker 1: that this was a thing.
[43:00] Speaker 2: I've noticed it. I sent it to our friend Nick
[43:02] Speaker 2: Wright yesterday, and he was like, how can you tell
[43:05] Speaker 2: that this is ChatGPT? And I said, well, one, they
[43:08] Speaker 2: use an em dash, which is like this elongated dash
[43:11] Speaker 2: that only ChatGPT uses. And I said, also... I was like,
[43:15] Speaker 2: people think a chat GPT or AI is just going
[43:18] Speaker 2: to use like a million different styles. It has a
[43:21] Speaker 2: very defined writing style.
[43:23] Speaker 1: Yes.
[43:24] Speaker 2: And so anytime I see someone say something like, it's
[43:26] Speaker 2: not a plant, it's a forest in the making. Or
[43:30] Speaker 2: it's not an issue. It's just something that hasn't been
[43:32] Speaker 2: worked out yet. That's like the chat GPT cadence. And
[43:36] Speaker 2: I've noticed some people, like if you look at their
[43:39] Speaker 2: tweets from like three months ago compared to now, it's
[43:41] Speaker 2: a completely different person. And, but I don't see anybody
[43:46] Speaker 2: calling them out and I don't want to be the
[43:47] Speaker 2: one to do it, but I definitely think it's a,
[43:50] Speaker 2: how do you, how do you use something that is
[43:52] Speaker 2: all about, let me put my opinions out there. but
[43:55] Speaker 2: you need to have a computer generate what you think.
[43:57] Speaker 1: What low self-confidence, right?
[44:00] Speaker 2: I think it is.
[44:00] Speaker 1: Cause that's the point for me too. I mean, and
[44:04] Speaker 1: you know, I can neither relate nor empathize with low self-confidence.
[44:09] Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't. Somebody else got to help
[44:12] Speaker 1: make you feel better about that. I was trying to
[44:13] Speaker 1: talk to somebody once about having more self-confidence about themselves.
[44:17] Speaker 1: And then in the end, I was like, damn, no,
[44:18] Speaker 1: you was right. You were actually the one who was correct.
[44:22] Speaker 1: Here I am over here giving you too much credit, right?
[44:24] Speaker 1: Like this was really your fault. But no, we should... Wow.
[44:28] Speaker 1: I just had no idea anybody would engage in such dork.
[44:31] Speaker 2: I'll send you some and you can stay on the lookout.
[44:33] Speaker 2: And if you want to bring back your old account
[44:37] Speaker 2: where you just like crap on people.
[44:38] Speaker 1: I just might. I don't work at ESPN anymore. I
[44:41] Speaker 1: could probably do this. And I want to throw this
[44:44] Speaker 1: out there also about like the AI generated scripts. You know,
[44:46] Speaker 1: I watch a lot of travel videos. I watch them
[44:50] Speaker 1: for travel and I watch them when, you know what
[44:52] Speaker 1: I'm saying? So that is great. They're beautiful and visual.
[44:56] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, it does,
[44:58] Speaker 1: it does the thing. So anyway. There's a lot of
[45:01] Speaker 1: AI generated scripts with the AI generated voice. And I
[45:05] Speaker 1: noticed it because I was watching the video. I forgot
[45:07] Speaker 1: about what the place was. And the quote unquote woman
[45:11] Speaker 1: was talking about being the protagonist in your own vacation.
[45:15] Speaker 1: And there's no way anybody who actually talks is referring
[45:17] Speaker 1: to somebody as being a protagonist in their vacation.
[45:21] Speaker 2: And I just think it's important because like, okay, since
[45:27] Speaker 2: my son is one, I talk to my wife about
[45:29] Speaker 2: this all the time that like he is going to
[45:31] Speaker 2: enter a world where people don't have original thought and it's,
[45:35] Speaker 2: it's almost, it's so easy to create, but everyone's going
[45:40] Speaker 2: to be creating the same thing that like we have
[45:42] Speaker 2: to treat it like our son has an opportunity to
[45:45] Speaker 2: differentiate himself by being very original. Like I think being
[45:50] Speaker 2: super authentic and original is going to be a huge advantage. Um,
[45:54] Speaker 2: but it's going to be hard cause it's at one click,
[45:57] Speaker 2: you can get a five page paper written. That was
[45:59] Speaker 2: never a thing. Dude, we were using the Dewey decimal system, right?
[46:02] Speaker 2: Like we were putting together bibliographies. Like you had to,
[46:05] Speaker 2: you had to really write, um, one last on this.
[46:08] Speaker 2: It is question number 39. With thousands of hours of
[46:11] Speaker 2: Stephen A. Smith footage online, how far are we away
[46:15] Speaker 2: from AI being able to convincingly replicate him?
[46:19] Speaker 1: Oh, brother, Saturday Night Live didn't do the worst job
[46:23] Speaker 1: of it with Jay Pharoah.
[46:25] Speaker 2: But we're reaching a point now where I feel like
[46:28] Speaker 2: you could probably type in Oklahoma City beats Indy. Here's
[46:32] Speaker 2: the stats and all that. Give me five possibilities that
[46:35] Speaker 2: Stephen A. Smith can say, and I think one of
[46:37] Speaker 2: them is.
[46:37] Speaker 1: Going to hit. Ryan says Stephen A.I. Smith. Somebody is
[46:41] Speaker 1: going to do this and they're not going to pay us.
[46:43] Speaker 1: They're not going to pay us.
[46:44] Speaker 2: Because, dude, there's so much footage of him that all
[46:47] Speaker 2: of his mannerisms, his face, his sounds, his intonation. Like,
[46:52] Speaker 2: I think the people that are on camera the most
[46:54] Speaker 2: are at the biggest possibility of being replicated.
[46:56] Speaker 1: Well, I will tell you this. There are people. I
[47:00] Speaker 1: know one of them. I will not tell you who
[47:02] Speaker 1: it is. But there are people who are suing the
[47:05] Speaker 1: AI bots. behind the idea of like, I checked this
[47:10] Speaker 1: once for myself and somebody could probably, you could do
[47:12] Speaker 1: it for you, I'm sure. But you can go into
[47:13] Speaker 1: Chad GPT and it's like, give me a take on
[47:17] Speaker 1: this in the style of Bomani Jones and it'll do it.
[47:20] Speaker 1: And I have to tell you, I did not feel honored.
[47:23] Speaker 1: I felt like Chad GPT really doesn't know who I
[47:27] Speaker 1: am or what I'm about by the time I got
[47:29] Speaker 1: to the end of it. But people can do it.
[47:31] Speaker 1: So there are people who are suing these companies because
[47:33] Speaker 1: they're like, yo, you're allowing people to plagiarize me. which,
[47:37] Speaker 1: by the way, is absolutely 100% correct in what they're
[47:41] Speaker 1: telling you. But with Stephen A., oh, yeah, absolutely going
[47:44] Speaker 1: to be able to pull this off, especially as he
[47:47] Speaker 1: has dedicated himself to being out there, unlike any person
[47:51] Speaker 1: I can remember, like ever. All right.
[47:54] Speaker 2: I just asked ChatGPT for Bomani Jones' thoughts on ChatGPT.
[47:59] Speaker 2: Here are three possible quotes it generated. Are you okay
[48:02] Speaker 2: with this? Does it make you feel uncomfortable?
[48:03] Speaker 1: Let's do this.
[48:04] Speaker 2: Look, ChatGPT is basically Wikipedia with charisma. It'll give you
[48:08] Speaker 2: an answer before you finish the question, but you better
[48:10] Speaker 2: double check it like a cab driver in a new city.
[48:13] Speaker 1: Yo, that's perk. That's not me.
[48:17] Speaker 2: I'm impressed and terrified at the same time. Machines can
[48:20] Speaker 2: spit out hot takes on command, but can they crack
[48:22] Speaker 2: a joke that lands after a bad call in game six?
[48:25] Speaker 2: That's the real Turing test.
[48:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, one more.
[48:29] Speaker 2: If all you do is copy and paste an AI script,
[48:31] Speaker 2: you're not adding seasoning to the gumbo. You're just reheating leftovers.
[48:35] Speaker 2: The culture moves forward when someone stirs the pot, not
[48:38] Speaker 2: when they press send.
[48:39] Speaker 1: Now you see what I was saying? You see what
[48:42] Speaker 1: I'm saying? That's kind of.
[48:43] Speaker 2: What you just said. But it added a gumbo reference.
[48:48] Speaker 1: They were like, what if we make it just a
[48:51] Speaker 1: tiny bit racist? Yeah, just to touch. In fact, I'm
[48:57] Speaker 1: now curious how many other black people's names that you
[49:00] Speaker 1: could put in there and they would spit it right
[49:02] Speaker 1: back out and say the same thing. You know, like, wow. Wow. Wow.
[49:13] Speaker 2: Hold on. I'm going to get something really quick, including race,
[49:19] Speaker 2: including race. and culture. I wanted to ask it, what
[49:23] Speaker 2: percentages did you do for the style, like when you
[49:27] Speaker 2: generated that? So a rough percentage breakdown for Bomani Jones
[49:33] Speaker 2: input sources is, It's saying that communication and style took 40%,
[49:38] Speaker 2: saying you're conversational but sharp, wry humor layered structure, you
[49:42] Speaker 2: prefer analogies and extended metaphors. 25%, it took a cultural context.
[49:49] Speaker 2: Phrases like, quote, seasoning the gumbo reflects cultural references rooted
[49:53] Speaker 2: in black southern vernacular and tradition. Man, this is insane.
[49:59] Speaker 1: Number one was correct. Number two was where they started
[50:01] Speaker 1: going a little walkie.
[50:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, they were like, we looked at where he was
[50:05] Speaker 2: from and we gave those things. Oh, man.
[50:09] Speaker 1: All right.
[50:11] Speaker 2: Ask a number.
[50:11] Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay. Shout out to Shea Gilders Alexander. He
[50:17] Speaker 1: wearing number two, right? Let's go with number two.
[50:20] Speaker 2: Number two. We just had a team built through the
[50:24] Speaker 2: draft by an OCD but incredibly effective GM led by
[50:28] Speaker 2: a 26-year-old that takes a lot of grief about their
[50:30] Speaker 2: style of play, surrounded by supreme death and poised to
[50:34] Speaker 2: compete for championships for years to come. I'm not talking
[50:37] Speaker 2: about the Oklahoma City Thunder. I'm talking about the Philadelphia Eagles.
[50:41] Speaker 2: Sam Presti and Howie Roseman. Are we in the golden
[50:45] Speaker 2: era of the nerd GM?
[50:48] Speaker 1: So what I find interesting about the comparison... between the
[50:52] Speaker 1: two of them is I think that Presti is a
[50:59] Speaker 1: pretty good, like get in the weeds and get them right.
[51:02] Speaker 1: So it did not take anything to say Kevin Durant
[51:05] Speaker 1: at number two. in that draft. It took something to
[51:08] Speaker 1: decide to take Harden at three. It took something to
[51:10] Speaker 1: take Westbrook, I think it was at four or five
[51:12] Speaker 1: or whatever it was.
[51:14] Speaker 2: Right, we don't congratulate him for taking Chet at two,
[51:16] Speaker 2: but in the same draft, he took J-Dub at 13.
[51:19] Speaker 1: Correct, right? He gets that. Howie Roseman is like, wow,
[51:24] Speaker 1: you're so big and fast. Why don't you come play
[51:28] Speaker 1: for us, you big, fast person? Physical outliers. And then
[51:33] Speaker 1: add Jalen Hurts.
[51:35] Speaker 2: Cooper Dejean and his drafts, like he got the center
[51:39] Speaker 2: to replace Jason Kelsey and they haven't missed a beat there.
[51:43] Speaker 2: I mean, so you're saying that you're not as impressed
[51:45] Speaker 2: by how he arose.
[51:46] Speaker 1: No, I'm saying no, no. I'm saying they do it
[51:47] Speaker 1: in different ways. Right. I appreciate not overcomplicating this. Like, hey, guys,
[51:53] Speaker 1: I hear they got a lot of really good stuff
[51:55] Speaker 1: at this store called Georgia. Why don't we go shop
[51:59] Speaker 1: at Georgia? Like there's no need to make this more
[52:02] Speaker 1: difficult than it necessarily has to be.
[52:03] Speaker 2: J-Dub went to Santa Clara. Right, right.
[52:05] Speaker 1: He's out here getting physical outliers. We have a team
[52:09] Speaker 1: full of freaks. That is, we'll work the rest out later,
[52:13] Speaker 1: but we got a team full of freaks. And so
[52:15] Speaker 1: that's where Howie on one level is a jerk. I mean,
[52:18] Speaker 1: not a jerk, a nerd. But on the other level
[52:20] Speaker 1: is Al Davis. Like these are all a bunch of
[52:22] Speaker 1: guys that Al Davis would take.
[52:23] Speaker 2: I will say though that Having covered the NBA for
[52:28] Speaker 2: so long, everybody used to marvel at the fact that
[52:31] Speaker 2: Sam Pressy was given so much power and time that
[52:36] Speaker 2: there were so many years when you're playing Poku at center.
[52:39] Speaker 2: Like these guys were winning 12 games, 15 games. And
[52:43] Speaker 2: they were really playing the young guys. And the comments
[52:46] Speaker 2: around the league were, man, what other GM would be
[52:48] Speaker 2: allowed this kind of runway? And I think they've both
[52:52] Speaker 2: been given runway and they both have owners that go,
[52:55] Speaker 2: whatever you want to do, I'm going to make it happen.
[52:58] Speaker 2: I just, look, we live in New York. I'm watching
[53:00] Speaker 2: what happens with the Knicks. And it's one of these
[53:03] Speaker 2: is not working, a meddling owner that doesn't want to
[53:06] Speaker 2: deal with it. And the other one giving your really
[53:08] Speaker 2: smart GM advice. ground to work with does i.
[53:11] Speaker 1: Think the owner in oklahoma city has a self-awareness about
[53:18] Speaker 1: who and what they are and what they have to
[53:20] Speaker 1: be to win right um i also think what seems
[53:24] Speaker 1: very clear is that sam prestey can articulate the plan
[53:29] Speaker 1: and if you can articulate the plan You'll go from there.
[53:32] Speaker 1: But it's like, look, we're not going to be able
[53:34] Speaker 1: to get free agents. Right. This isn't going to be
[53:36] Speaker 1: that kind of place. What we're going to have to
[53:38] Speaker 1: do is we're going to have to get young guys
[53:40] Speaker 1: who like to be around each other. And then when
[53:42] Speaker 1: it's time to get a veteran, I need to have
[53:44] Speaker 1: an operation so competent. That when those guys get here,
[53:48] Speaker 1: they're like, no, I only got to be here for
[53:50] Speaker 1: six months out the year anyway. Okay, that's fine. I
[53:53] Speaker 1: can do that. And so he was the Wunderkent when
[53:55] Speaker 1: he got the job. I want to say he was
[53:56] Speaker 1: in his 20s when he got it. He nailed Durant,
[54:00] Speaker 1: Jeff Green, Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Serge Ibaka in successive
[54:05] Speaker 1: first round picks. Um, yeah. So, but even the idea
[54:09] Speaker 1: that he got so much time, I don't think that
[54:11] Speaker 1: really holds. So 2020, after they traded Chris Paul and
[54:15] Speaker 1: they got the picks and stuff that they got from him,
[54:17] Speaker 1: they were really only down for two years. Then after that,
[54:20] Speaker 1: they went 40 and 42. And then it's been these
[54:22] Speaker 1: last two years.
[54:23] Speaker 2: Dude, the Eagles fired Doug Peterson two years after winning
[54:26] Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.
[54:27] Speaker 1: Fair, fair, fair.
[54:29] Speaker 2: Like, in sports, like, I vividly remember Stephen A. Smith
[54:32] Speaker 2: going on TV and being like, when are we going
[54:34] Speaker 2: to start questioning Sam Preston?
[54:35] Speaker 1: I remember him saying that, and I was like, stop it. Well,
[54:38] Speaker 1: when's he going to get a championship? Stop it.
[54:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like he has any pull. But a
[54:44] Speaker 2: lot of teams and a lot of fan bases— don't
[54:47] Speaker 2: even allow one down year or two down years. Well,
[54:51] Speaker 2: you know, if the chiefs had a down year this year,
[54:53] Speaker 2: they're going to start asking, you know, do they need,
[54:56] Speaker 2: what's his Andy Reed, you know, moving on and blah, blah, blah. Like,
[54:59] Speaker 2: like we just don't have patience. So I thought the
[55:01] Speaker 2: patients that they showed, and then you get to go
[55:03] Speaker 2: to your owner and go, I know I need to
[55:05] Speaker 2: pay 85 million for Isaiah Hartenstein.
[55:09] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[55:10] Speaker 2: And they're like, really? And they're like, you need to
[55:11] Speaker 2: trust me, man.
[55:12] Speaker 1: I think there's one other thing. I think there's one
[55:14] Speaker 1: other thing. the self-awareness that I spoke to, they happy
[55:21] Speaker 1: they got a team. True. Like, I don't think they
[55:26] Speaker 1: get enough credit for the game they ran to get
[55:29] Speaker 1: that team, by the way. I know the people in
[55:30] Speaker 1: Seattle don't like it, but the idea that they got
[55:33] Speaker 1: a taste of that team for those two years and
[55:34] Speaker 1: were like, all right, cool. So David Stern says he
[55:37] Speaker 1: want to show them who's boss and we're going to
[55:40] Speaker 1: get a team. And they pulled it off and it
[55:42] Speaker 1: made the team good. I mean, they were a television
[55:45] Speaker 1: draw for much of a decade-long period.
[55:49] Speaker 2: You just made me think of an incredible concept for
[55:51] Speaker 2: the NBA. Instead of the NBA saying, Maybe we'll put
[55:55] Speaker 2: a franchise in Seattle. Maybe we'll put one in Vegas,
[55:58] Speaker 2: Mexico city, Paris, London. What if it's a competition where
[56:03] Speaker 2: it's like, it's like, let's see how good of a
[56:06] Speaker 2: fan base you would be. You know, like we're new
[56:09] Speaker 2: or like, like Oklahoma city got that tryout and they're like, man,
[56:13] Speaker 2: the crowd's packed every game. And it's like a college atmosphere.
[56:17] Speaker 2: Let's see if you got, let's see what you got.
[56:20] Speaker 2: I would love.
[56:21] Speaker 1: Let me tell you, my mom was from Oklahoma City.
[56:22] Speaker 1: I cannot begin to tell you how happy she is
[56:24] Speaker 1: about that championship. She has not lived in Oklahoma City
[56:28] Speaker 1: since the year of our Lord, 1960. Really? Yeah, and
[56:33] Speaker 1: it's like it just happened.
[56:35] Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing.
[56:36] Speaker 1: Yes.
[56:37] Speaker 2: All right. Let's hear another.
[56:39] Speaker 1: We got one more, one more. We up there. We
[56:41] Speaker 1: pushing the time. What you got? One more, one more.
[56:44] Speaker 1: I'm going to say, as I said, I'm 44 years old.
[56:49] Speaker 1: Let's go with the faux faux.
[56:51] Speaker 2: Okay. If we were to do an WNBA-NBA jam combo,
[56:59] Speaker 2: you would have teams like Anthony Edwards and Nafisia Collier.
[57:02] Speaker 2: You'd have teams like Jalen Brunson and Brianna Stewart. But
[57:05] Speaker 2: how many jerseys would the white lightning combination of Caitlin
[57:09] Speaker 2: Clark and TJ McConnell sell? And that team name would
[57:13] Speaker 2: be the Midwest Fundamental.
[57:17] Speaker 1: TJ McConnell, he was this close. This close to that
[57:20] Speaker 1: jersey retirement. Your guy, TJ McConnell, the only true process survivor.
[57:25] Speaker 1: The only guy that had no business in the NBA
[57:28] Speaker 1: and then figured out a way to make it happen.
[57:30] Speaker 1: He turned the ball over seven times in game seven,
[57:32] Speaker 1: by the way. Just want to throw that out there
[57:33] Speaker 1: for people who weren't aware. Don't talk about that. Wow.
[57:36] Speaker 1: They're going to sell a lot of jerseys that are
[57:38] Speaker 1: going to fit you the exact right size.
[57:42] Speaker 2: Oh, great. Got to tuck them in.
[57:44] Speaker 1: Yes, it's going to be those. I mean, everybody in
[57:46] Speaker 1: the state of Indiana will have one.
[57:49] Speaker 2: Everybody. Follow-up questions. I've thought about places I'd love to
[57:53] Speaker 2: see Kaitlin Clark play basketball. Number one, I think, is Rucker.
[57:59] Speaker 2: I always go back to the Kevin Durant clip where
[58:02] Speaker 2: he's hitting all the threes. I just think there's something
[58:05] Speaker 2: beautiful about Caitlin Clark walking into the rocker and then
[58:08] Speaker 2: like turning everyone into a fan by the end of it.
[58:11] Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you're not saying what I'm about to say.
[58:18] Speaker 1: I'm going to say it. I just want to be
[58:20] Speaker 1: very clear. It's me, not you. They just looking for
[58:23] Speaker 1: a reason to fall in love with a white girl
[58:25] Speaker 1: on a regular basis, let alone one that could hoop.
[58:30] Speaker 1: It don't take much for the white girl to win
[58:32] Speaker 1: the brothers over. It does not take very much. She
[58:35] Speaker 1: would not be going in there fighting against my skepticism.
[58:37] Speaker 1: It would be very, very welcoming. My people, generally speaking,
[58:40] Speaker 1: we are welcoming. White people just want to be nice
[58:43] Speaker 1: to us a little bit. But she come out there,
[58:45] Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, put a lot of them factors together, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[58:49] Speaker 1: She'll be the queen of uptown. Queen.
[58:52] Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that. My second one was
[58:55] Speaker 2: San Quentin. I would love to see.
[58:58] Speaker 2: Caitlyn in like a, in like a maximum security prison,
[59:01] Speaker 2: but like, again, wins everybody over.
[59:04] Speaker 1: Yo, like that's her, like giving back. You know what
[59:07] Speaker 1: I'm saying? Like she going in there hooping with the
[59:09] Speaker 1: hooping with the inmates we.
[59:10] Speaker 2: I think the warriors played in the prison like the
[59:12] Speaker 2: last five.
[59:13] Speaker 1: Years yo i would i would i would pay money to.
[59:16] Speaker 2: Watch caitlin's doing step back.
[59:18] Speaker 1: Yes yes but i tell you this though that whole
[59:20] Speaker 1: thing would she be like pushing people and walking away
[59:22] Speaker 1: don't do that there Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[59:24] Speaker 2: Can't do that.
[59:24] Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. You got to stand on your two.
[59:26] Speaker 1: You might get some respect like really doing it, but
[59:28] Speaker 1: being passive aggressive is not something that they have a
[59:30] Speaker 1: lot of respect for behind bars.
[59:32] Speaker 2: All right, let me get this in. This was number 21.
[59:34] Speaker 2: I was hoping you were going to pick it. You didn't.
[59:37] Speaker 2: Go out with one. Have lunch with your parents. Smoke
[59:40] Speaker 2: with one. Aaron Rodgers, Mayor Eric Adams, Stephen A. Smith.
[59:46] Speaker 1: Okay, so it's go out with one.
[59:47] Speaker 2: Go out, drink it, go out. Well, partying with one
[59:50] Speaker 2: because you don't drink. Have lunch with your parents and
[59:53] Speaker 2: then a cypher, a smoke sesh.
[59:55] Speaker 1: Okay. I'm not. I would have to bring Aaron Rodgers
[1:00:04] Speaker 1: around my parents. Wow. I know too much about how
[1:00:09] Speaker 1: my parents, my father in particular feels about Eric Adams,
[1:00:13] Speaker 1: the archetype and Stephen A. Smith, the broadcast personality that
[1:00:18] Speaker 1: I cannot do. Um, and so then we got knocked out.
[1:00:22] Speaker 2: So you're going to be sitting there and you're, and
[1:00:23] Speaker 2: he's gonna be like, so then when I did Iowa.
[1:00:25] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think they can,
[1:00:28] Speaker 1: I think they can make that work. I brought weird
[1:00:29] Speaker 1: white boys over to the house before. I ain't brought
[1:00:32] Speaker 1: no whole lot of brothers over like Stephen A. Smith
[1:00:34] Speaker 1: or Eric Adams. Um, So you're smoking with one and
[1:00:39] Speaker 1: you're going out with one, Eric Adams and Stephen A. Okay,
[1:00:42] Speaker 1: I'm definitely going out with Eric Adams. I bet that's fun.
[1:00:47] Speaker 1: For all my criticisms of Eric Adams, he knows the
[1:00:50] Speaker 1: spots and the spots. This man just said the other day,
[1:00:53] Speaker 1: because as we're recording this on Tuesday, so it's election
[1:00:56] Speaker 1: day for the primary in New York City. Eric Adams
[1:00:59] Speaker 1: did something where he said, how he was the first
[1:01:04] Speaker 1: mayor to party off Dykeman. who says that like who
[1:01:11] Speaker 1: holds that he was on the breakfast club that one
[1:01:13] Speaker 1: day they gonna say that ball hit a brother with
[1:01:15] Speaker 1: the earring was doing it who says these things about
[1:01:19] Speaker 1: being the mayor what are you talking about so yeah
[1:01:22] Speaker 1: i would go kick it with did i just oh
[1:01:25] Speaker 1: no so you're you're smoking with steven no no no
[1:01:28] Speaker 1: no i'm going out with steven a i'm smoking with
[1:01:30] Speaker 1: eric adams.
[1:01:31] Speaker 2: I don't why don't you want to smoke with steven
[1:01:32] Speaker 2: because i don't.
[1:01:33] Speaker 1: Think steven a wants to smoke with us.
[1:01:35] Speaker 2: Well, he has to. It's part of the rules.
[1:01:37] Speaker 1: Okay, so that would mean it is.
[1:01:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, how would that session go?
[1:01:40] Speaker 1: It's absolutely on the board that it would be Stephen
[1:01:43] Speaker 1: A's first time getting high, or at the very least
[1:01:46] Speaker 1: getting high as he would kicking it with me. And
[1:01:49] Speaker 1: I don't want to I'm not trying to I don't
[1:01:51] Speaker 1: need to be a pioneer in that regard. I'll go
[1:01:54] Speaker 1: out with Stephen A. Smith. Yes, that would that would
[1:01:57] Speaker 1: that would that would be.
[1:01:58] Speaker 2: Could you imagine like it is his first time and
[1:02:00] Speaker 2: then someone's like, let me fire up a door dash.
[1:02:03] Speaker 2: What is Stephen A. getting the munchies for?
[1:02:06] Speaker 1: Oh, I know exactly what he get the munchies for.
[1:02:08] Speaker 1: Everybody knows what he get the munchies for is the
[1:02:10] Speaker 1: thing that it's been reported many, many years ago. He
[1:02:13] Speaker 1: is about those cheesy poofs, man. What? You know the
[1:02:17] Speaker 1: whole cheesy poof thing with Stephen A. You can Google that.
[1:02:20] Speaker 1: I'm doing it now. Somebody saw him at a game
[1:02:23] Speaker 1: eating the cheesy poofs. They're like, oh, it's Stephen A
[1:02:25] Speaker 1: with cheesy poofs. Stephen A will walk around the Seaport
[1:02:28] Speaker 1: studio with a styrofoam bowl full of cheesy poofs. He
[1:02:31] Speaker 1: clearly keeps a bag of them in his office or
[1:02:34] Speaker 1: somebody re-ups them.
[1:02:35] Speaker 2: The balls?
[1:02:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, like the generic Cheetos.
[1:02:40] Speaker 2: Cheesy poofs. Not cheesy poofs, that's from South Park.
[1:02:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I'm saying, yeah, no, but like Cheetos,
[1:02:47] Speaker 1: but not Cheetos.
[1:02:47] Speaker 2: Cheese doodles.
[1:02:48] Speaker 1: There we go.
[1:02:51] Speaker 2: He loves cheese doodles?
[1:02:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:02:54] Speaker 2: Can you imagine? And then Stephen A grabs the J
[1:02:58] Speaker 2: and it's like all over his fingers.
[1:03:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, he don't know the rules. You know what I'm saying?
[1:03:05] Speaker 1: He don't know the rules.
[1:03:07] Speaker 2: A just-smoked Stephen A crushing a tub of cheese doodles
[1:03:10] Speaker 2: is like the funniest thing.
[1:03:11] Speaker 1: This actually reminds me, by the way, I had a
[1:03:13] Speaker 1: Hall of Fame session at the Super Bowl one year
[1:03:15] Speaker 1: that I may have told you about. But either way,
[1:03:17] Speaker 1: somebody with way more money than I made the declaration like, hey,
[1:03:21] Speaker 1: everybody got their own, right? He was not here for
[1:03:26] Speaker 1: the communal spirit of it all. If you ain't got
[1:03:28] Speaker 1: no weed, take your broke ass home. That is what
[1:03:31] Speaker 1: that Hall of Famer said.
[1:03:33] Speaker 2: To be honest, when you were talking about moving your
[1:03:35] Speaker 2: couch in the very beginning of this, moving your own
[1:03:38] Speaker 2: couch is the guy that goes, let's just pass it.
[1:03:41] Speaker 2: And then the guy that pays to get his couch
[1:03:43] Speaker 2: moved goes, no, no, no. You're good.
[1:03:46] Speaker 1: You're good. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Lefkoe, comma, Adam.
[1:03:52] Speaker 1: That's the middle ground. Lefkoe, Addo. What are you doing
[1:03:56] Speaker 1: this summer? Because basketball is over. Tennis is over. French
[1:03:59] Speaker 1: Open is over. Yep.
[1:04:02] Speaker 2: I'm definitely going to go to the U.S. Open now
[1:04:04] Speaker 2: that I'm a tennis guy.
[1:04:05] Speaker 1: We got to go. I guess I got to find
[1:04:08] Speaker 1: somebody to roll with me, but we got to talk.
[1:04:10] Speaker 1: I'll be there for sure. We got to get all
[1:04:12] Speaker 1: our agencies and the likes in line so we can
[1:04:14] Speaker 1: go hang out.
[1:04:15] Speaker 2: And then I'm getting ready for baseball. I'm going to
[1:04:18] Speaker 2: be doing baseball with TNT, which I'm excited about.
[1:04:21] Speaker 1: And.
[1:04:22] Speaker 2: A very corny kind of answer, I'm just being a dad.
[1:04:26] Speaker 2: You know, dude, when you travel a lot, you have
[1:04:29] Speaker 2: these incredible thoughts. You're like, man, I just want to
[1:04:31] Speaker 2: take him to gym class. And then after an hour,
[1:04:34] Speaker 2: you're like, this is the hardest thing I've ever done
[1:04:36] Speaker 2: in my entire life. Just hanging out with Big P,
[1:04:40] Speaker 2: pushing P.
[1:04:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to go. Now that he's mobile and,
[1:04:44] Speaker 1: you know. He's talking. That's what I'm saying. I got
[1:04:46] Speaker 1: to come hang out with the little homie. I only
[1:04:47] Speaker 1: got to kick it with him a little bit.
[1:04:48] Speaker 2: Well, Monty, the one thing that I think you would
[1:04:50] Speaker 2: love about having a kid, because I think you'll have
[1:04:53] Speaker 2: a smart kid, is stunting on other parents with your
[1:04:56] Speaker 2: kid's intelligence. And so Prince, my wife, since the age
[1:05:00] Speaker 2: of three, has been reading like neurology books and stuff.
[1:05:03] Speaker 2: So he can tell you the heart has four chambers.
[1:05:05] Speaker 2: The strongest is the left ventricle. The biggest part of
[1:05:08] Speaker 2: the brain is the cerebrum. And he can spell his
[1:05:11] Speaker 2: name and all this stuff. And he's like one. And
[1:05:13] Speaker 2: so we'll be at the playground and there'll be times
[1:05:16] Speaker 2: where I'll feel like someone's being rude. Like they're not
[1:05:18] Speaker 2: sharing the swing or they're not controlling their kid. And
[1:05:21] Speaker 2: I go... Prince, what creates protein in the cell? And
[1:05:25] Speaker 2: he's like, ribosomes. And they're like, what the fuck? And
[1:05:29] Speaker 2: I'm like, eat.
[1:05:30] Speaker 1: It, mom, eat it. This is pretty amazing, though, I
[1:05:33] Speaker 1: have to say.
[1:05:35] Speaker 2: Oh, well, it's all credit to my wife, because what
[1:05:37] Speaker 2: I've taught him is that when he dunks the ball,
[1:05:39] Speaker 2: he says, boom, shakalaka. And that after you spell eagles,
[1:05:43] Speaker 2: you say go birds. So we've taught them very different things.
[1:05:46] Speaker 1: OK, I need to ask Nick what exactly he taught Deanna,
[1:05:49] Speaker 1: because my favorite thing when Nick and Deanna is Deanna
[1:05:52] Speaker 1: walking in the room, although Deanna is certainly not a
[1:05:54] Speaker 1: child anymore, but walking in and saying, Daddy, who do
[1:05:57] Speaker 1: we want to win today? which I looked at him
[1:05:59] Speaker 1: and said, yo, you got to tighten this up, man.
[1:06:02] Speaker 1: You can't. It can't be this, homie.
[1:06:09] Speaker 2: That is a sign right there.
[1:06:10] Speaker 1: It can't be this. Right, but check out about Turner
[1:06:12] Speaker 1: Sports covering baseball and the likes. My brother, I appreciate you.
[1:06:15] Speaker 1: I will talk to you soon.
[1:06:17] Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, man. Thank you.
[1:06:18] Speaker 1: All right, man. And ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much
[1:06:20] Speaker 1: for joining us here on The Right Time. We do
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