# Bills stun Ravens, Packers beat Lions, Rodgers balls out vs. Jets | 09.08

An episode of [The Right Time with Bomani Jones](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/982639043), 8 Sep 2025, 56 min.

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Bomani Jones reacts to a jam-packed week 1 of NFL action. First, he discusses the wild win for the Buffalo Bills, and why Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry should not be blamed for the improbable loss. Later, he discusses the Kansas City Chiefs losing to the Los Angeles Chargers and why time might be running out on the Chiefs Dynasty. He wraps up the show by breaking down the Lions loss to the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers first win as a Pittsburgh Steeler, and much much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:05] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original.
[0:09] Speaker 1: My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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[0:15] Speaker 1: rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only
[0:17] Speaker 1: give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are
[0:20] Speaker 1: a hater. You know what time it is. NFL football
[0:25] Speaker 1: is back. Baby, look, understand, I am one of these
[0:27] Speaker 1: people that's a little bit disheartened about how this country
[0:30] Speaker 1: has just become football all the time. It's like it's
[0:33] Speaker 1: the only sport that we care about. I think you
[0:35] Speaker 1: guys look like fucking morons when y'all be sitting around
[0:38] Speaker 1: watching that fake football, that preseason football, right? And, you know,
[0:42] Speaker 1: you be betting on it. You watch the Pro Bowl.
[0:44] Speaker 1: I think that's crazy. Week one, man, I went over
[0:47] Speaker 1: to my buddy Nick's house. He got like five, six
[0:49] Speaker 1: games on. We over there posted up. eating wangs baby
[0:53] Speaker 1: it was a great time i i i have to
[0:56] Speaker 1: say i was i was kind of thrilled that we
[0:58] Speaker 1: got this football back right i don't even necessarily know
[1:01] Speaker 1: what it is that you do with the football you
[1:03] Speaker 1: know nick you might need to pull up one day.
[1:05] Speaker 2: Oh yeah i mean i i've i've seen i've been
[1:08] Speaker 2: to football at nick's house he is uh he's locked
[1:10] Speaker 2: in for 10 hours he's not moving.
[1:12] Speaker 1: He's locked in for 10 hours. And I have to
[1:13] Speaker 1: tell you, this is the first time it was so
[1:15] Speaker 1: much going on. Like, normally I can find the game
[1:18] Speaker 1: I care about, lock in, and go from there, right? Like,
[1:21] Speaker 1: I like watching football with Nick, one, because it makes
[1:24] Speaker 1: it better for coming on this show because he knows
[1:27] Speaker 1: a zillion things. We're having conversation. Like, we're giving ourselves
[1:30] Speaker 1: things to think about. Yeah, it's basically it, right? Like,
[1:33] Speaker 1: it's a really cool thing to be able to go
[1:34] Speaker 1: back and forth with him about what's going on because
[1:37] Speaker 1: he knows so much at all times because, you know,
[1:40] Speaker 1: he'd be putting money on stuff. It takes you to
[1:43] Speaker 1: a different place in terms of watching the game. But
[1:45] Speaker 1: there were actually enough interesting games early that it was difficult.
[1:50] Speaker 1: But the game that we got to, obviously, it was
[1:53] Speaker 1: all a buildup for Ravens and Bills on Sunday night. Now,
[1:59] Speaker 1: Ravens and Bills, for the last few years, a game
[2:02] Speaker 1: like that, it's been.
[2:06] Speaker 3: The consolation bracket, right?
[2:08] Speaker 1: And not really in a bad way, but it's been
[2:11] Speaker 1: the consolation bracket, right? Like, it's kind of who gonna
[2:15] Speaker 1: finish second to Usain Bolt in the 100-meter final at
[2:18] Speaker 1: the Olympics. That's just what it's been. It's been the
[2:22] Speaker 1: Chiefs and then everybody else.
[2:24] Speaker 2: Mahomes pulling up to the three-point contest like Larry Bird.
[2:26] Speaker 2: Who wants to come in second?
[2:30] Speaker 1: Mahomes throwing some pass behind his back, over his shoulder,
[2:33] Speaker 1: then just walking out, pointing his finger to the sky
[2:35] Speaker 1: because you know that thing is going in. That's exactly
[2:38] Speaker 1: what it's been for these years. Last night was different.
[2:41] Speaker 1: And we'll talk about part of why it was different
[2:43] Speaker 1: coming up in a little bit. But this matchup does
[2:47] Speaker 1: not feel like the consolation bracket. anymore right like this
[2:50] Speaker 1: feels like a different kind of battle this is every
[2:55] Speaker 1: year feels like the best chance for whatever team is
[2:59] Speaker 1: not the Chiefs now obviously um the Ravens having that
[3:05] Speaker 1: chance to beat the Chiefs at home uh in 2023
[3:09] Speaker 1: January 2024 and they did not win it that one
[3:12] Speaker 1: really felt like their best chance and that they just
[3:16] Speaker 1: gave it up like they had the game At the crib,
[3:19] Speaker 1: which up to that point, Patrick Mahomes ain't playing no
[3:21] Speaker 1: games on the road before that season, right? They had
[3:24] Speaker 1: the game at the crib. And it wasn't that same year.
[3:26] Speaker 1: Didn't Buffalo have Kansas City at the crib run and
[3:30] Speaker 1: then they lost that one?
[3:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, because that was the year they went 11-6 when
[3:36] Speaker 2: the receivers were all double agents.
[3:38] Speaker 4: Right.
[3:38] Speaker 1: And so he went to everybody's house and was just like,
[3:40] Speaker 1: not yet, fellas. Not yet. Like, y'all think this is
[3:43] Speaker 1: y'all's chance. This isn't y'all's chance. And then they walked through. Okay.
[3:46] Speaker 5: Okay.
[3:50] Speaker 1: This is not a game I don't feel like where
[3:53] Speaker 1: you come out of it talking about one quarterback won
[3:57] Speaker 1: and one quarterback lost. Now, obviously, Josh Allen in that
[4:01] Speaker 1: 16-point run they put on at the end was just unreal.
[4:07] Speaker 4: Just.
[4:08] Speaker 1: big old... I just don't know. I'm trying not to
[4:12] Speaker 1: use curse words, but that's all... The problem with trying
[4:14] Speaker 1: to describe Josh Allen.
[4:15] Speaker 2: That big MF-er?
[4:16] Speaker 1: Yes. That's all I have is some form of that, right?
[4:19] Speaker 1: It's not even just that it's curse words. It's the
[4:21] Speaker 1: big dollar ones that you can't... But that's all you
[4:24] Speaker 1: can do with a dude that big throwing the ball
[4:27] Speaker 1: like that, and he was putting it right on the
[4:29] Speaker 1: dot for this Cats fan. Like, it was... And in a...
[4:32] Speaker 1: We got to get it right now. This is our chance.
[4:34] Speaker 1: This is all we got.
[4:35] Speaker 2: And they.
[4:36] Speaker 1: I mean... They should not have won that game. Baltimore
[4:41] Speaker 1: lost it, but they won it. Like the drives that
[4:44] Speaker 1: they were running, Baltimore's defense is going to have to
[4:48] Speaker 1: be a little something different, obviously, than it was. And honestly,
[4:51] Speaker 1: Buffalo's defense is also going to need to be a
[4:53] Speaker 1: little something different than it was. But that was the
[4:57] Speaker 1: big fella. You know what he is? Here's what he is, right?
[5:00] Speaker 1: He's a big old galoop. That's a big galoot. The
[5:05] Speaker 1: problem is when he talks, he doesn't sound stupid. Like
[5:08] Speaker 1: you think of a galoot is kind of big and stupid,
[5:11] Speaker 1: but he is. That's what we need to start calling
[5:13] Speaker 1: Josh Allen because he doesn't really have a nickname yet, right? No.
[5:16] Speaker 1: What if we just say the big galoot? When's the
[5:20] Speaker 1: last time we called somebody a galoot?
[5:23] Speaker 2: I didn't know they were still making galoots.
[5:24] Speaker 1: Well, no, no. They're clearly still making them. We just
[5:27] Speaker 1: began to identify them as something else. You're like, oh,
[5:29] Speaker 1: I didn't know they made Datsuns anymore.
[5:31] Speaker 3: No, they're called Nissans now.
[5:33] Speaker 1: Like that's all that is. Got it. The big loop
[5:35] Speaker 1: was moving down the field and making that happen. Look,
[5:40] Speaker 1: Baltimore had a game where Lamar Jackson averaged 11 yards
[5:45] Speaker 1: in attempt through two touchdowns, ran for 70 yards in
[5:49] Speaker 1: another touchdown. Derrick Henry ran for 170 yards. Your team
[5:53] Speaker 1: ran for 240 yards and your quarterback played well. and
[6:04] Speaker 1: you stopped the run and you lost. Hey guys, there's
[6:12] Speaker 1: really only one place for you to look under those
[6:15] Speaker 1: circumstances and that place is the dude with the headphones on.
[6:23] Speaker 1: Have a factoid here that Ryan has put in our
[6:25] Speaker 1: document for you guys to know. John Harbaugh in his
[6:30] Speaker 1: coaching career has blown 17 second-half double-digit leads.
[6:39] Speaker 4: 17.
[6:39] Speaker 1: That is the most by any coach since at least 1991,
[6:43] Speaker 1: because they ain't been counting, but for so long. Now,
[6:49] Speaker 1: part of that, of course, is a function of the
[6:51] Speaker 1: fact that John Harbaugh has been coaching literally since the
[6:57] Speaker 1: Bush administration. The second Bush, just, you know, don't you
[7:01] Speaker 1: think we're being unfair? but he'd been out there since
[7:04] Speaker 1: the Bush administration. Some of y'all don't even want to
[7:08] Speaker 1: think about what it was like when he was the.
[7:11] Speaker 3: Coach, because they was putting you out of your house.
[7:16] Speaker 3: Was that too far?
[7:19] Speaker 1: Did I take it into tragedy at that point? Okay,
[7:23] Speaker 1: Ryan ain't even jumping in to say nothing about it.
[7:27] Speaker 2: I was thinking about what my wife was like when
[7:29] Speaker 2: John Harbaugh started coaching.
[7:31] Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if he was driving down the street
[7:32] Speaker 1: and being like, damn, they're not going to finish building
[7:34] Speaker 1: that house? They're just going to stop in the middle, huh? Shit. Okay.
[7:39] Speaker 1: But he's been there for a long time. But at
[7:41] Speaker 1: the same time, I do think he has been shielded
[7:45] Speaker 1: by the presence of Lamar Jackson. in times and ways
[7:48] Speaker 1: that very often when a team like this has not
[7:50] Speaker 1: gotten to the Super Bowl over this time period and
[7:53] Speaker 1: they have the quarterback, you get a new coach. Like
[7:56] Speaker 1: that by now ordinarily would have happened. We are now
[8:00] Speaker 1: in year eight of the Lamar Jackson experience. Keeping in mind,
[8:05] Speaker 1: they was going to cut bait with Harbaugh in 2018
[8:09] Speaker 1: until Lamar Jackson came in and saved his job, right?
[8:15] Speaker 1: They look tight.
[8:17] Speaker 3: At the end of that.
[8:18] Speaker 1: Now, do I think you can blame Harbaugh for, you know,
[8:24] Speaker 1: Hall of Fame running back Derrick Henry fumbling when he did?
[8:28] Speaker 3: No, I don't think that you can put that on
[8:30] Speaker 3: the coach.
[8:31] Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of Derrick Henry, I know you've
[8:33] Speaker 1: probably seen this number from somebody else. I know you
[8:36] Speaker 1: may have seen somebody else make this point, but Derrick
[8:38] Speaker 1: Henry last season had the sneakiest all-time great season that
[8:42] Speaker 1: I think an NFL player has ever had. Because Saquon
[8:45] Speaker 1: Barkley had all those yards. Did you know Derrick Henry
[8:49] Speaker 1: ran for 1,900 yards last year?
[8:51] Speaker 2: I did not. Last night, he got into the top
[8:57] Speaker 2: five all-time rushing touchdowns.
[8:58] Speaker 4: Yes.
[8:59] Speaker 2: And a stat that was also going around is he
[9:03] Speaker 2: still hasn't rushed for more yards than he did in
[9:05] Speaker 2: high school. I've seen that number going around because he
[9:10] Speaker 2: has like 12,000 high school rushing yards.
[9:12] Speaker 1: Ain't nobody stealing a check quite like Derrick Henry's high
[9:18] Speaker 1: school coach. They wouldn't watch no film. They wouldn't cook
[9:22] Speaker 1: it up.
[9:22] Speaker 2: No.
[9:23] Speaker 1: What are we going to do today? I don't know, guys.
[9:26] Speaker 1: What do you think? Maybe we could just give the
[9:29] Speaker 1: ball to Derek again.
[9:31] Speaker 2: He's sneaky. He's sneaky become like the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar of
[9:34] Speaker 2: running backs.
[9:35] Speaker 4: Yes.
[9:35] Speaker 2: Like a dominant high school, college, and now pro into
[9:40] Speaker 2: a sec. Like he's 40 and running back years, but
[9:43] Speaker 2: still looks 22.
[9:45] Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was going to say that I
[9:46] Speaker 1: think is so crazy is that I think it is
[9:47] Speaker 1: perfectly reasonable that this year is a Saquon Barkley regression year, right?
[9:52] Speaker 1: Like you run for 2,000 yards, you take all the
[9:55] Speaker 1: carries that it takes Uh, Barkley is now, and I
[9:58] Speaker 1: want to say going into year eight or something like that. Yeah.
[10:00] Speaker 2: He's the same draft as Lamar.
[10:02] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[10:03] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[10:03] Speaker 1: Like that's about the time that you have a regression
[10:05] Speaker 1: for running back. It's unreasonable to expect him. And by
[10:08] Speaker 1: the way, in week one, it looked like the sort
[10:09] Speaker 1: of thing that was possible. Hey, Derek Henry is a
[10:12] Speaker 1: lot older than him and just ran for 1900 yards
[10:18] Speaker 1: on six yards, a carry, and then just came out
[10:21] Speaker 1: here and started the season with 170 yards. like all
[10:25] Speaker 1: that hyperbaric chamber stuff and everything else he's doing, apparently
[10:29] Speaker 1: it's worth the money. But guys, he gave up the
[10:33] Speaker 1: booty at the end of that game, much like Mark Andrews.
[10:37] Speaker 1: He gave up the booty in the last time they
[10:39] Speaker 1: played that game in Buffalo, where this stops being a
[10:43] Speaker 1: discussion about the quarterback and really does become a discussion
[10:46] Speaker 1: about why does your whole team seem to get tight?
[10:50] Speaker 1: Or is it your whole team? Like, is that a
[10:52] Speaker 1: fair characterization? The quarterback has certainly looked to be tight
[10:56] Speaker 1: over time and we have certainly chastised him and given
[10:59] Speaker 1: him the hell that you deserve when you are a
[11:01] Speaker 1: guy with as many receipts and the stripes that Lamar
[11:03] Speaker 1: Jackson has and you come out there and you look tight.
[11:05] Speaker 1: But after a certain point, man, and it's everybody and
[11:08] Speaker 1: you put up 40 points on the road and you're
[11:11] Speaker 1: up and you lose, this goes back to the coach.
[11:16] Speaker 1: Like to me, if I'm running that franchise, This is
[11:21] Speaker 1: the make or break year for Harbaugh. And look, he's
[11:26] Speaker 1: been there forever, man. Sometimes it's just time for you
[11:29] Speaker 1: to go. It happens. I can't say that the team
[11:33] Speaker 1: doesn't respond to him because they seem to, right? They
[11:36] Speaker 1: made the changes with the offense. As you've asked Lamar
[11:40] Speaker 1: to step up and to become a better passer, more
[11:42] Speaker 1: sneaky stats. Lamar Jackson last year had 41 touchdowns, four interceptions,
[11:47] Speaker 1: and ran for over 900 yards. I'm sorry. We're going
[11:54] Speaker 1: to answer the questions about everybody else before we start
[11:57] Speaker 1: putting it back on that guy. Even if, like I say,
[12:00] Speaker 1: and it's an important point, Lamar Jackson is not the
[12:03] Speaker 1: reason that the Ravens lost that game, but he is
[12:07] Speaker 1: not the reason why they won that game. The other guy,
[12:11] Speaker 1: he is the reason his guys won the game, right?
[12:14] Speaker 1: And if they'd lost, he wouldn't have been the reason
[12:15] Speaker 1: because he also had an incredible game. Like I find
[12:19] Speaker 1: it to be so much more interesting, at least for
[12:21] Speaker 1: the type of job that I have to be able
[12:23] Speaker 1: to come off of a game like that. And what
[12:25] Speaker 1: we don't have to do is trying to find a
[12:27] Speaker 1: way to blame or chastise the two excellent quarterbacks who
[12:32] Speaker 1: played excellently. Like we don't have to do that. I
[12:37] Speaker 1: will say this though, Ryan, Buffalo going to need to
[12:40] Speaker 1: figure out how to run the ball. Like, we're just
[12:43] Speaker 1: going to jump on Josh Allen's back and he's going
[12:45] Speaker 1: to do everything? I will say this for the Ravens.
[12:48] Speaker 1: It took them a while to build it up, but
[12:50] Speaker 1: it never felt like that was their plan on purpose.
[12:52] Speaker 1: These last couple years, it's felt like this is what
[12:54] Speaker 1: Buffalo has just decided they're going to do.
[12:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, they've found a way to make
[13:00] Speaker 2: him a more effective runner, but their receivers still look
[13:03] Speaker 2: like non-playable characters. James Cook is good, not great. I mean,
[13:07] Speaker 2: at least... None of them are really hit, but the
[13:09] Speaker 2: Ravens have put a lot of talent, a lot of
[13:12] Speaker 2: draft capital into that receiver position. And then, of course,
[13:14] Speaker 2: they go out and get Derrick Henry last year.
[13:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say this, though. They put a lot
[13:17] Speaker 1: of capital into that, but if you run through this
[13:19] Speaker 1: box score, if there's something that needs to worry you
[13:21] Speaker 1: about them, Zay Flowers looks like the guy that they
[13:24] Speaker 1: said he was going to be when he got drafted, right?
[13:26] Speaker 1: He looked like that. But they are looking for what's
[13:31] Speaker 1: left of DeAndre Hopkins to get it done.
[13:34] Speaker 3: Two catches for 35 yards.
[13:36] Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman... So I don't know if you ever listened
[13:40] Speaker 1: back in the day when me and Shannon did the
[13:41] Speaker 1: radio show, and everybody's got that guy. Like one of
[13:44] Speaker 1: them for me was Kristen Michael, but the defining one
[13:47] Speaker 1: for me was Darren McFadden, but this is the year
[13:49] Speaker 1: that he puts it all together.
[13:51] Speaker 2: That checks out.
[13:52] Speaker 4: Yes.
[13:53] Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman, he is a guy that I promise this
[13:57] Speaker 1: is going to be the year he puts it all together.
[14:00] Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts is mine.
[14:02] Speaker 1: I had that feeling while I was watching snippets of
[14:03] Speaker 1: that game. It started looking like it might be, right?
[14:06] Speaker 1: It started looking like it might be. Mark Andrews didn't
[14:09] Speaker 1: give him anything in this game. So they have made
[14:13] Speaker 1: the capital investments. They signed Odell Beckham a couple years ago,
[14:15] Speaker 1: but what was left of Odell Beckham? They they've tried
[14:19] Speaker 1: flowers seems to be the one that has panned out,
[14:22] Speaker 1: but somebody is going to have to give it because
[14:24] Speaker 1: we're at this point now where their quarterback is one
[14:26] Speaker 1: of the greatest quarterbacks who has ever played. He is
[14:28] Speaker 1: a hall of fame quarterback. Like Josh Allen is still
[14:31] Speaker 1: hall of fame trajectory. Lamar Jackson with the receipts that
[14:34] Speaker 1: he's got his hall of fame. Josh Allen, I think
[14:35] Speaker 1: is going to be there.
[14:36] Speaker 6: Right.
[14:36] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[14:37] Speaker 2: But like he's one MVP or one Superbowl appearance away
[14:40] Speaker 2: from being a lock.
[14:40] Speaker 4: Yes.
[14:41] Speaker 1: Like, like this is where they, this is where they are.
[14:44] Speaker 1: The dude in the cap is, is going to need
[14:47] Speaker 1: to figure out how to get this done. Because if
[14:50] Speaker 1: he doesn't, they're going to look like they're squandering this.
[14:52] Speaker 1: And Lamar is more than a runner. And I find
[14:58] Speaker 1: most impressive about him as runner is that he takes
[15:01] Speaker 1: very good care of himself, right? Like he's not running
[15:04] Speaker 1: like Cam Newton used to run, where Cam Newton is
[15:06] Speaker 1: running like a fullback, right? It's not that.
[15:10] Speaker 2: However, no, Mars has figured out like he gets out
[15:13] Speaker 2: of bounds. He gets down. Yes. You never really see
[15:16] Speaker 2: him take a contact injury. He gets sick all the time.
[15:20] Speaker 1: Yes.
[15:20] Speaker 5: Yes.
[15:21] Speaker 1: He has the worst immune system of all time.
[15:23] Speaker 2: But he's never you never see him like almost carted off.
[15:26] Speaker 1: I just think we need to keep in mind that
[15:28] Speaker 1: his primary football advisor at every turn has been his mama.
[15:35] Speaker 1: That's not a bad thing. I'm just saying that if
[15:38] Speaker 1: your mama is giving you the most football advice, you're
[15:40] Speaker 1: going to be getting out of bounds and you're going
[15:42] Speaker 1: to be sliding. You know what I mean? Let me
[15:44] Speaker 1: tell you what your mama don't give a damn about.
[15:46] Speaker 3: No extra yard.
[15:47] Speaker 1: Not with her baby. She might be thinking that Derek
[15:51] Speaker 1: Henry need to go out there and get an extra
[15:53] Speaker 1: yard or Mark Ingram needed to get an extra yard.
[15:56] Speaker 3: But you need to get your black ass down.
[15:58] Speaker 1: Right. But he doesn't take those big hits as a runner. However,
[16:06] Speaker 1: We saw this specifically with Cam Newton. This is the
[16:08] Speaker 1: greatest example. He had the career arc of a running
[16:11] Speaker 1: back because of all the miles that he had. You
[16:15] Speaker 1: want to get this gentleman to do it like Lamar.
[16:17] Speaker 1: This is really the time because we don't have a
[16:19] Speaker 1: great answer for how long this is going to go.
[16:20] Speaker 1: It is not, in all likelihood, this is not going
[16:22] Speaker 1: to be a 17 or 18 year career. And that's
[16:24] Speaker 1: not a slight or an insult to him. That's just
[16:26] Speaker 1: not how it works with guys like this. If you
[16:28] Speaker 1: decide you're going to do this and play this type
[16:30] Speaker 1: of quarterback, you're not going to have a 20 year.
[16:32] Speaker 1: It's not going to be that. Just not. And with
[16:35] Speaker 1: the athleticism fades for him. He'll still be able to pass,
[16:39] Speaker 1: but it's going to completely change the dynamics of how
[16:41] Speaker 1: he plays. This is the window to get this done.
[16:44] Speaker 1: All right. Either John Harbaugh gets it done or John
[16:48] Speaker 1: Harbaugh going to be sitting behind a desk as the
[16:50] Speaker 1: new Jimmy Johnson. Just you watch.
[16:58] Speaker 5: All right.
[16:58] Speaker 1: Now I had mentioned and made the point that that
[17:01] Speaker 1: game did not feel so much like the consolation bracket.
[17:05] Speaker 3: Between the Bills and the Ravens as it had before.
[17:08] Speaker 1: And the reason for that is very simple. The Chiefs
[17:12] Speaker 1: did not feel like champions in that game that they
[17:15] Speaker 1: played in Brazil against the Chargers. They did not. I
[17:20] Speaker 1: think big takeaway from that game, though, is there is
[17:24] Speaker 1: no quarterback whisperer quite like Jim Harbaugh now is there.
[17:28] Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know how, but there
[17:31] Speaker 1: is not.
[17:32] Speaker 2: And when Justin Herbert is at the peak of his powers,
[17:35] Speaker 2: I mean, when things are working for him and he's
[17:37] Speaker 2: hitting those throws and he has time, I get why
[17:41] Speaker 2: the nerds love him so much.
[17:42] Speaker 1: I mean, he's the king of the eye test, right?
[17:45] Speaker 7: He is.
[17:47] Speaker 1: Like, I made a point once that John Elway is
[17:50] Speaker 1: the best eye test quarterback in NFL history. And I
[17:54] Speaker 1: still believe that to be true. And people were like, well,
[17:56] Speaker 1: what about Aaron Rodgers? Aaron Rodgers has an eye test arm, right?
[18:02] Speaker 1: But getting off the bus, just seeing the dude in pants,
[18:07] Speaker 1: ready to go play. And you could be like, well,
[18:09] Speaker 1: people would hit me back with that. And they're like, well,
[18:11] Speaker 1: John Elway is 6'3, 220 or whatever. Well, Aaron Rodgers
[18:15] Speaker 1: is 6'2, 220 or whatever. Is it that big a difference? Look,
[18:18] Speaker 1: I don't make the rules, dog.
[18:20] Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers didn't get drafted to play baseball.
[18:23] Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers got, let me tell you, no matter how
[18:25] Speaker 1: much of a jerk people thought Aaron Rodgers was, that
[18:28] Speaker 1: same version of John Elway, whom people thought was a jerk,
[18:31] Speaker 1: wasn't nobody letting that slide to know number 25. You
[18:34] Speaker 1: just weren't.
[18:35] Speaker 2: John Elway wasn't sitting behind, wasn't sitting for two years.
[18:37] Speaker 1: Wasn't happening. Wasn't happening, man. Like, but if you, like,
[18:40] Speaker 1: that was the guy. Big, strong, he had, like, perfect
[18:44] Speaker 1: physical mechanics in the arm, and he could run and
[18:47] Speaker 1: all of those things. Justin Herbert fits very similar characteristics.
[18:51] Speaker 1: In fact, his eye test problem is that he's a
[18:53] Speaker 1: little too much of something, which is too tall because
[18:55] Speaker 1: he's about 6'6. And generally terrible haircuts. Like, you know,
[19:00] Speaker 1: there's that. But you get it. He's athletic. He's got
[19:04] Speaker 1: that arm. Somebody told me a story when that draft
[19:07] Speaker 1: was coming up. And because that was the draft with
[19:12] Speaker 1: Tua winning that draft. Was it Joe Burrow, Tua, and
[19:16] Speaker 1: Justin Herbert?
[19:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, those were three of the top six.
[19:19] Speaker 1: The 2020 draft, right. And somebody said about the Chargers,
[19:21] Speaker 1: they were like, and they talked to somebody in the organization,
[19:23] Speaker 1: they're like, all right, so we're going to take a
[19:26] Speaker 1: black dude this year. Like, for whatever reason, they had
[19:29] Speaker 1: concluded they were going to take a black dude. And
[19:31] Speaker 1: somebody was like, well, what about Herbert? They were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
[19:35] Speaker 1: close enough. That was what was relayed to me about
[19:40] Speaker 1: what they were doing with that team.
[19:42] Speaker 2: That was the year Tyrod was the starter.
[19:45] Speaker 1: That's right.
[19:45] Speaker 2: So they clearly committed organizationally.
[19:48] Speaker 1: They did. So that's like... now of course this story
[19:51] Speaker 1: may not have been a real relay because they had
[19:53] Speaker 1: a black coach at the time like when hugh jackson
[19:54] Speaker 1: was the coach people were assuming that they were just
[19:56] Speaker 1: gonna get a black coach and i was like you
[19:57] Speaker 1: don't know any black quarterback i'm like you don't know
[19:59] Speaker 1: anything about Hugh Jackson, who's like building for granted quarterback
[20:03] Speaker 1: is Carson Palmer, right? Like you guys have this wrong,
[20:05] Speaker 1: but I just say all that to say, that's the
[20:07] Speaker 1: athleticism that Justin Herbert is giving you. He looks and
[20:10] Speaker 1: can be whatever quarterback you want to be. The big
[20:13] Speaker 1: reason why quarterback whisperer, Jim Harbaugh took that job was
[20:16] Speaker 1: because of Justin Herbert. And when you think about it,
[20:19] Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh is the guy who drafted Colin Kaepernick, who
[20:21] Speaker 1: was a very good football player for a decent period
[20:25] Speaker 1: of time. And they are very physically similar. Colin, of course,
[20:29] Speaker 1: is just a different level of runner. But when you
[20:31] Speaker 1: think about it, kind of tall, you know, tall, spindly
[20:34] Speaker 1: in some ways. Like, he's that guy. And he looked
[20:38] Speaker 1: like that guy in that game against the Chiefs. And
[20:42] Speaker 1: the Chiefs, after y'all told us that it was going
[20:44] Speaker 1: to be different, looked a lot like the Chiefs of
[20:46] Speaker 1: last year, where it's Patrick Mahomes throwing to some dudes
[20:50] Speaker 1: that they would have picked up in front of the
[20:51] Speaker 1: Home Depot.
[20:53] Speaker 3: Like, y'all doing anything today?
[20:54] Speaker 1: Y'all want some work?
[20:56] Speaker 3: All right, come on down there.
[20:57] Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy, who... If you're going to be a football
[21:05] Speaker 1: player that weigh like 20 pounds less than Beaumont Jones,
[21:09] Speaker 1: you got to be able to make them kicks from
[21:11] Speaker 1: 60 yards.
[21:12] Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying?
[21:13] Speaker 1: That dude got hurt because he ran into his mans.
[21:17] Speaker 1: That's all that happened. He's just not that big, right?
[21:21] Speaker 4: And.
[21:21] Speaker 1: We have seen kind of smaller guys who can make
[21:24] Speaker 1: it happen that way, but he's not a bowling ball
[21:27] Speaker 1: type at his size. He's just really, really fast and
[21:30] Speaker 1: a good football player, but he's just not that big.
[21:33] Speaker 1: Rasheed Rice is now out on suspension. Travis Kelsey, he's
[21:43] Speaker 1: not young.
[21:45] Speaker 2: Older than me.
[21:47] Speaker 1: Okay, there we go. I couldn't quite remember. Was he
[21:49] Speaker 1: 36 now? Yeah.
[21:50] Speaker 5: Yeah, like.
[21:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, I shouldn't say it that way. But, yes, he's
[21:55] Speaker 1: an old man. Like, to be out here still playing
[21:58] Speaker 1: the football, he is an old man.
[22:00] Speaker 2: Still playing the football in a three-point stance.
[22:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point. They don't have a great–
[22:09] Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, by the way, he's still in the league all-star.
[22:13] Speaker 1: They're still giving him the ball. They tried to get
[22:16] Speaker 1: a running back when Edwards had Laird the other day.
[22:17] Speaker 1: You know who their leading rusher was in this game
[22:19] Speaker 1: on Friday night?
[22:20] Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes?
[22:21] Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes.
[22:21] Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. By a wide margin, I will note, Hollywood
[22:28] Speaker 1: Brown had a catch for 49 yards, Ryan, and the
[22:30] Speaker 1: rest of the catch is nine for 50. Like, this
[22:37] Speaker 1: is not encouraging what they're breaking out here in a
[22:40] Speaker 1: very tough division.
[22:41] Speaker 2: And the thing that they didn't look like last year
[22:44] Speaker 2: and the year prior is their defense looked really bad.
[22:48] Speaker 1: Indeed. And their defense has looked excellent at points. Now look,
[22:52] Speaker 1: maybe what we're talking about here is the Chargers are
[22:56] Speaker 1: really good and the Chargers may have the best coach
[23:00] Speaker 1: in that division. I think we would all agree at
[23:01] Speaker 1: this point that that is the best coached division in
[23:04] Speaker 1: the history of coaching in divisions, right? The only guy
[23:09] Speaker 1: that hasn't won a Super Bowl is Jim Harbaugh.
[23:13] Speaker 2: That's it. Might legitimately have, could possibly have four coaching
[23:17] Speaker 2: Hall of Famers.
[23:18] Speaker 1: I think that when all is said and done, they
[23:22] Speaker 1: will all go into the Hall of Fame. Andy Reid,
[23:25] Speaker 1: I think, is a no-brainer. I think Sean Payton, hey, man,
[23:30] Speaker 1: you win a Super Bowl with the Saints. That's like
[23:32] Speaker 1: when LeBron James won that championship in Cleveland. I understand
[23:34] Speaker 1: why he think that count for four or five. That's
[23:38] Speaker 1: against all laws. Right fast, I'm going to just say this.
[23:41] Speaker 1: They had a game on Sunday between the Saints and
[23:44] Speaker 1: the Cardinals, and I was looking in the crowd, and buddy,
[23:47] Speaker 1: I can't imagine caring enough about the Saints, the Cardinals,
[23:51] Speaker 1: or football to pay money for that.
[23:56] Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, Spencer Rattler doesn't get your butt in the seat?
[24:00] Speaker 1: Hey, Kyler Murray looked pretty good in that game, I
[24:02] Speaker 1: would have to say. I will say this for Spencer Rattler.
[24:04] Speaker 1: I don't want to make this about me, but I
[24:08] Speaker 1: think you'll understand where I'm coming from. I feel bad
[24:09] Speaker 1: for Spencer Rattler in the sense that he is still
[24:12] Speaker 1: having it held against him. the way that people perceived
[24:15] Speaker 1: his behavior in a docu-series that was done when he
[24:18] Speaker 1: was in high school. And I just think the idea
[24:22] Speaker 1: of holding against, I don't think it's fair to hold
[24:24] Speaker 1: it against anybody what they were in high school when
[24:26] Speaker 1: they're a sophomore in college. Like, you go to college,
[24:28] Speaker 1: you get to start over. You get to be a
[24:29] Speaker 1: whole new person. I was at the Super Bowl this year,
[24:33] Speaker 1: and Spencer Rattler, we were at some party. I think
[24:36] Speaker 1: it may have been the New Heights party. And we
[24:38] Speaker 1: were there, and he just stopped and saw me and
[24:40] Speaker 1: was like, Hey, Bomati Jones, Spencer Rattler, how are you?
[24:43] Speaker 1: And he took his hand out. And the thing that
[24:45] Speaker 1: struck me about that, Ryan, is if there's anybody that
[24:48] Speaker 1: don't need to introduce himself, it's Spencer Rattler.
[24:51] Speaker 2: You know what I mean? He's been, especially to someone
[24:53] Speaker 2: like you who follows recruiting, he's been in your life
[24:55] Speaker 2: for nearly, because he was a big, big time recruit.
[24:59] Speaker 1: He was that guy. I mean, he's the number one guy, right?
[25:01] Speaker 1: But the thing for me was, I was like, huh.
[25:04] Speaker 1: you don't need to introduce yourself to somebody who were,
[25:06] Speaker 1: I actually took that as, that's not the guy from
[25:09] Speaker 1: the docuseries. This is a level of humility, which also
[25:12] Speaker 1: for me was, I'm an old man because I'm like, wow,
[25:15] Speaker 1: he seemed like such a nice young man. I now
[25:18] Speaker 1: have these thoughts when I see people that has nothing
[25:20] Speaker 1: to do with what it is that we were talking about.
[25:22] Speaker 1: But for the Chiefs, here's what's crazy about the standard
[25:25] Speaker 1: that the Chiefs have gotten to. They have won their
[25:27] Speaker 1: division nine times in a row, right? Keeping in mind
[25:30] Speaker 1: that this takes it back to the Alex Smith days.
[25:33] Speaker 1: They've won the division nine times in a row. I
[25:36] Speaker 1: believe the only road playoff games my homes has played
[25:39] Speaker 1: was that year where they had to go to Buffalo
[25:41] Speaker 1: and they had to go to Baltimore, right? Like that's,
[25:44] Speaker 1: that's it for them going to play role playoff games.
[25:46] Speaker 1: This run has been so unreal. If they fall down
[25:51] Speaker 1: to winning a wild card or simply winning that division,
[25:55] Speaker 1: but not getting the number one seed, it's going to
[25:57] Speaker 1: feel like the wheels are coming off, right? Um, Which
[26:00] Speaker 1: makes it difficult for me to have a really great
[26:02] Speaker 1: grasp on how good they are at a given point
[26:06] Speaker 1: in time. Because the standard that they're held against is
[26:10] Speaker 1: truly unlike any standard that I can think of, right?
[26:13] Speaker 2: It's seven straight AFC championship games.
[26:16] Speaker 1: The Patriots did this, right? Like they're the only team
[26:20] Speaker 1: that I can think of in that way. But the
[26:24] Speaker 1: thing about the Patriots was even when the years were coming,
[26:26] Speaker 1: the Patriots weren't great. We only had one time when
[26:29] Speaker 1: we thought it was over for the Patriots and it
[26:32] Speaker 1: was 2014. Against the Chiefs. And they had that game
[26:34] Speaker 1: against the Chiefs and they got their doors blown off.
[26:36] Speaker 1: And I'll never forget, man, me and Dan Levitard sat
[26:39] Speaker 1: up there on television and we buried them. We were like,
[26:42] Speaker 1: this is what it looks like when it all falls apart, yada, yada, yada, da-da-da-da-da, da-da-da-da-da.
[26:49] Speaker 1: Four months later, Malcolm Butler made the interception at the
[26:53] Speaker 1: goal line and they won the Super Bowl again. And
[26:55] Speaker 1: it was just like, oh, never mind. It's kind of
[26:58] Speaker 1: like how we said Steph Curry was better than LeBron
[27:00] Speaker 1: and then they took the 3-1 lead and we didn't
[27:03] Speaker 1: start saying anybody was better than LeBron after that. Like,
[27:06] Speaker 1: we was petrified of going in that way. That's what
[27:09] Speaker 1: it was with the Patriots. But with the Chiefs, They
[27:14] Speaker 1: don't look like those guys, man. They don't look like it.
[27:17] Speaker 1: And Mahone, I don't know how much of this is coaching.
[27:21] Speaker 1: I don't know how much of this is the quarterback.
[27:23] Speaker 1: But as Brady declined, and the decline was obvious. And
[27:27] Speaker 1: in 2014, if you were watching, he did not look
[27:29] Speaker 1: like the same guy. He somehow got it back together.
[27:33] Speaker 1: But he didn't look like that guy at the time.
[27:35] Speaker 1: But I never felt like Tom Brady was reduced to
[27:40] Speaker 1: nickel and diming all the time.
[27:42] Speaker 3: Like truly to get it done. Although I guess at
[27:44] Speaker 3: the end, it felt like that.
[27:46] Speaker 1: But the part that's striking me about this is how
[27:49] Speaker 1: are you guys still nickel and diming it with the
[27:51] Speaker 1: greatest quarterback I've ever seen?
[27:53] Speaker 3: And you're never going to convince me it's because he
[27:55] Speaker 3: can't do it.
[27:55] Speaker 1: Because when he did have to dial it up, man,
[27:57] Speaker 1: he made some big, deep throws, right? Like I think
[28:00] Speaker 1: it was at Hollywood Brown, that big one he made
[28:03] Speaker 1: rolling right flush out of the pocket where Khalil Mack
[28:04] Speaker 1: was on his keister and he got it done. It's
[28:07] Speaker 1: not like we're seeing flashes. He hasn't gotten worse, but
[28:11] Speaker 1: they have. And they got to figure this out real
[28:15] Speaker 1: soon because the truth is, as much as I say it,
[28:18] Speaker 1: you know, if they just get to be a wild card,
[28:20] Speaker 1: we'll think the sky is falling. Missing the playoffs is
[28:23] Speaker 1: totally on the board. And one thing that's going to
[28:25] Speaker 1: be tough for them this year, while we talk about
[28:27] Speaker 1: the coaching, I don't know how many of you watched
[28:30] Speaker 1: parts of this game or saw any of it. And
[28:33] Speaker 1: I don't blame you if you did not. The Raiders
[28:36] Speaker 1: are not going to be good because I think their
[28:38] Speaker 1: defense is not going to be good. But Geno was amazing.
[28:45] Speaker 1: Gino with Chip Kelly? I just say that to say,
[28:50] Speaker 1: the wins that you felt like you could count against
[28:52] Speaker 1: the Raiders, 2023 notwithstanding, Chiefs fans, those wins you thought
[28:55] Speaker 1: you could count against the Raiders, you can't. This is
[28:59] Speaker 1: going to be a tough go for them. And that
[29:01] Speaker 1: is why Ravens-Bills doesn't feel like the consolation bracket doesn't
[29:06] Speaker 1: feel like it right now. That felt like a battle
[29:09] Speaker 1: between the two teams that are going to be playing
[29:10] Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship game. We'll see how confident I
[29:14] Speaker 1: feel about saying that later. But even now, I can't
[29:18] Speaker 1: believe I'm saying that about what the Chiefs have been.
[29:21] Speaker 1: And that is that's how they looked in Brazil, which
[29:24] Speaker 1: is to say kind of like boo boo.
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[31:01] Speaker 2: Week 1. Tough loss for your Lions. They go down
[31:04] Speaker 2: 27-13 to the Packers. Goff sacked four times. But that's
[31:10] Speaker 2: your team. Bo, what happened?
[31:12] Speaker 1: We got a problem. We have a very big problem.
[31:16] Speaker 3: And the very big problem is, what's the center's name?
[31:19] Speaker 1: Ragnow? Frank Ragnow?
[31:20] Speaker 2: The one that retired?
[31:21] Speaker 1: The one that retired, yeah. Can somebody go to his
[31:24] Speaker 1: house and get him to bring his ass back? Because
[31:26] Speaker 1: the interior blocking was abysmal. Look, Michael Parsons was giving
[31:32] Speaker 1: Sewell a bit of the work. Yes.
[31:34] Speaker 2: And he played not even half the snaps.
[31:36] Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
[31:36] Speaker 1: Like, that was a thing, right? And the Packers might
[31:40] Speaker 1: be the best team in the NFC. Like, either Michael
[31:43] Speaker 1: Parsons or Rashawn Gary is your other guy coming off
[31:47] Speaker 1: the edge, right? Like, there's a thing going on. And obviously, offensively,
[31:50] Speaker 1: they look good. But I thought the Lions defensively, I
[31:53] Speaker 1: felt okay about that, right? Like, I do think... A
[31:58] Speaker 1: big problem for the Lions last year was pass rush.
[32:01] Speaker 1: And there wasn't enough of that. They did a great
[32:04] Speaker 1: job stopping the run though. Like they decided they were
[32:06] Speaker 1: going to stop Josh Jacobs and they did that. And
[32:08] Speaker 1: it wasn't like the Packers were out there putting up
[32:10] Speaker 1: video game numbers, right? Like that's not what happened. But
[32:14] Speaker 1: what did happen to me for the Lions is they
[32:16] Speaker 1: can't run because they can't get a push up the middle.
[32:20] Speaker 1: And if that's going to be the case all year long,
[32:23] Speaker 1: they're cooked. Like, this isn't going to be about Ben Johnson.
[32:26] Speaker 1: This ain't going to be about Aaron Glenn. This ain't
[32:28] Speaker 1: going to be about none of that. You've got to
[32:30] Speaker 1: get that push because what they have at quarterback is
[32:33] Speaker 1: the rich man's Kirk Cousins. And what I mean by
[32:36] Speaker 1: that is if everything is good around Kirk Cousins, I
[32:38] Speaker 1: think it was Scott McLuhan used to be the GM
[32:40] Speaker 1: at Washington made this point. If everything's good, everything's great
[32:43] Speaker 1: around Kirk Cousins, you can win some things. And I
[32:45] Speaker 1: think what we saw by the end of Kirk Cousins
[32:47] Speaker 1: time in Minnesota was if everything's great around him, you
[32:50] Speaker 1: can get to the division round of the playoffs.
[32:52] Speaker 2: There's a reason the Shanahan disciples got Kirk Cousins, their guy.
[32:56] Speaker 1: That is correct.
[32:57] Speaker 2: For 10 plus years now.
[32:59] Speaker 4: Right.
[32:59] Speaker 1: But you could only get it so far with Jared Goff.
[33:03] Speaker 1: You make everything great around him, and you can at
[33:06] Speaker 1: least get to a Super Bowl. I've seen it happen, right?
[33:10] Speaker 1: You could probably win a Super Bowl if you did
[33:13] Speaker 1: everything great around him. That interior offensive line situation is
[33:19] Speaker 1: the opposite of great, right? And so if they can't
[33:22] Speaker 1: solidify that run game that was such a big deal
[33:25] Speaker 1: for them last year, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[33:27] Speaker 1: You don't have a quarterback who can overcome. That's not
[33:30] Speaker 1: the kind of guy that you got. And you've got
[33:31] Speaker 1: a mentality of a team that requires you to hit
[33:34] Speaker 1: people in the mouth. Y'all going to need to start
[33:36] Speaker 1: hitting some people in the mouth. Otherwise, they're going to
[33:38] Speaker 1: miss the playoffs. And it's going to really stink because
[33:41] Speaker 1: I'm actually invested in this. Like, I have moments like
[33:45] Speaker 1: when Brian Branch, they called that, Brian Branch made that
[33:48] Speaker 1: interception and took it back to the house. And then
[33:50] Speaker 1: they called those two penalties. Dude, the mood swing I
[33:53] Speaker 1: had from when he got in to seeing all the flags,
[33:57] Speaker 1: I was just, This is not.
[33:59] Speaker 2: That's how you know they got you.
[34:02] Speaker 1: That was exactly how... Look, I fully knew they got
[34:05] Speaker 1: me when J-Mo threw that goddamn interception last year during
[34:09] Speaker 1: the playoffs.
[34:10] Speaker 2: They just locked him up, too. He's going to be
[34:12] Speaker 2: in your life for a couple more years.
[34:13] Speaker 1: Whose idea was that? You can't give him no money
[34:16] Speaker 1: up front. What are you talking about?
[34:19] Speaker 2: You got... Some people have to be on one-year deals forever.
[34:23] Speaker 3: For life.
[34:25] Speaker 1: For life.
[34:26] Speaker 2: I think the thing that I think is interesting to
[34:28] Speaker 2: me that you pointed out is you talked about the
[34:31] Speaker 2: identity of that team. And Dan Campbell is on that
[34:33] Speaker 2: Marshawn Lynch run through MF's face. Yes. That is his
[34:37] Speaker 2: whole philosophy of coaching. And again, when you're struggling center
[34:41] Speaker 2: guard guard, that's not going to be as much.
[34:43] Speaker 4: Of an option.
[34:43] Speaker 3: Bad news, man. It's bad news.
[34:45] Speaker 1: I'm nervous.
[34:46] Speaker 4: I'm nervous.
[34:46] Speaker 3: I'm really, really nervous.
[34:49] Speaker 2: All right.
[34:50] Speaker 1: But at least there's the Bears.
[34:51] Speaker 2: Yeah. Next week, you got the Bears and Ben Johnson
[34:55] Speaker 2: coming back.
[34:56] Speaker 1: That's that schedule, though. They're we're going to test the
[35:00] Speaker 1: resolve of this team, because if you go look at that,
[35:02] Speaker 1: they got like the Bears and the Browns. I want
[35:04] Speaker 1: to I think they get the Bears, the Browns in
[35:06] Speaker 1: the line and the Giants. And then other than that,
[35:09] Speaker 1: it's like Vikings, Ravens, Chiefs.
[35:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they have the AFC West and, you know,
[35:19] Speaker 2: obviously their own division, which might be the toughest in football.
[35:21] Speaker 1: Well, they have their own division. Oh, they got to
[35:23] Speaker 1: play the Bucs? So, yeah, here's what we're looking at now,
[35:25] Speaker 1: just so you know for my guys. Bears at the Ravens.
[35:29] Speaker 1: Browns at the Bengals. Okay, you know, okay. At the Chiefs.
[35:35] Speaker 1: Bucs at home. Vikings at home. At the Commandos. At
[35:39] Speaker 1: the Lions. I think that's when they get, no, the
[35:42] Speaker 1: Bucs not then. Home for the Giants. Thanksgiving against the Packers. Yeah,
[35:50] Speaker 1: the bye is after the bucks. I'm sorry.
[35:52] Speaker 3: Can we talk about something else?
[35:53] Speaker 2: All right. Speaking of people making new destinations, Aaron Rodgers
[35:59] Speaker 2: playing for his new team. He threw for four touchdowns
[36:01] Speaker 2: in a 34-32 win against the Jets. After the game,
[36:04] Speaker 2: he took a bit of a victory lap. Let's take
[36:06] Speaker 2: a listen.
[36:07] Speaker 8: You spoke about the meeting with Aaron Glenn on McAfee
[36:11] Speaker 8: a few months ago. Beating him, is there significance in
[36:14] Speaker 8: that since he basically told you to your face that
[36:17] Speaker 8: he didn't think you.
[36:18] Speaker 4: Were right for that team? Yes, that's what he did.
[36:22] Speaker 8: So there's significance in beating him for you?
[36:24] Speaker 2: I was happy to beat everybody associated with the Jets.
[36:29] Speaker 5: Hey, man.
[36:32] Speaker 1: We all acknowledge that Aaron Rodgers is a bit of
[36:33] Speaker 1: a grump. Can't blame him for that one at all.
[36:37] Speaker 1: They did make him fly across the country to fire him.
[36:41] Speaker 2: To break him up with him, yeah.
[36:43] Speaker 1: That did happen. They made him get on the plane
[36:46] Speaker 1: to shit can him. They could have easily got on
[36:48] Speaker 1: the plane to go to his house to shit can him. No,
[36:50] Speaker 1: they brought him in and they canned him. And look,
[36:53] Speaker 1: they both look to be better off without each other.
[36:56] Speaker 1: I felt like that it may have been the best
[36:57] Speaker 1: Justin Fields game I had ever seen. Like he looked
[37:00] Speaker 1: more like a poised, composed, ready to do it quarterback
[37:04] Speaker 1: than I think that I had seen him look In
[37:06] Speaker 1: his time.
[37:07] Speaker 2: They're just leaning, they're leaning into his strengths. It looks,
[37:09] Speaker 2: it looks like he's playing at Ohio State.
[37:11] Speaker 1: But look, the best era, the best version of Justin
[37:13] Speaker 1: Fields that we had seen is the one that ran
[37:15] Speaker 1: for 1,200 yards.
[37:16] Speaker 2: Okay.
[37:17] Speaker 1: Yes, he had the two Russian touchdowns, whatever. 16 for 22,
[37:21] Speaker 1: 218 yards, a touchdown, no picks. That's 10 yards in attempt.
[37:24] Speaker 1: And he, it looked different. Like this was I watched
[37:28] Speaker 1: that game with my man, Josh. He is a Jets fan.
[37:31] Speaker 1: And I have been watching Jets games intermittently with him
[37:33] Speaker 1: for the last nine years. And I've never seen him
[37:36] Speaker 1: this happy about the Jets. And that was in a loss.
[37:39] Speaker 1: Right now, of course, that fumble on that kickoff felt
[37:42] Speaker 1: very familiar to him.
[37:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the world he resides in.
[37:46] Speaker 1: That was Jetsy. That was real Jetsy. Like, Ryan, that
[37:49] Speaker 1: reminds me. How long have you been living here?
[37:52] Speaker 2: I think we moved here the same year. So eight
[37:55] Speaker 2: or nine years now.
[37:56] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
[37:56] Speaker 1: So this is football season nine for you. There are
[37:58] Speaker 1: two football teams in this city. It is year nine,
[38:00] Speaker 1: and we've seen one good football season from the local teams. Yeah.
[38:05] Speaker 3: That year, the Giants won a playoff game.
[38:06] Speaker 2: With Daniel Jones.
[38:08] Speaker 1: With Daniel Jones.
[38:08] Speaker 4: Yes.
[38:09] Speaker 1: Like that is, that is, by the way, somebody looked good.
[38:11] Speaker 1: Somebody looked pretty good on Sunday.
[38:13] Speaker 2: Someone looked good in a new spot.
[38:14] Speaker 1: Yep. But he all, he looked good in part because
[38:17] Speaker 1: the other team looked bad. They looked like they was
[38:20] Speaker 1: going to fire their coach week one. But anyway, Aaron
[38:23] Speaker 1: Rodgers was dealing Jack. Like there were moments where it
[38:26] Speaker 1: still looked like this new version of Aaron Rodgers, but
[38:28] Speaker 1: that was four touchdown passes and he looked good. Like
[38:32] Speaker 1: if he can look anything like that for the rest
[38:35] Speaker 1: of the year, like maybe this is his last hurrah
[38:38] Speaker 1: and ain't no telling what, what's the word I'm looking for?
[38:40] Speaker 1: Homeopathic remedies that he might've, you know, come across in
[38:44] Speaker 1: the off season. If he's going to look like that
[38:46] Speaker 1: and we got on the Steelers, like you, you, The
[38:48] Speaker 1: best quarterback you could get was Aaron Rodgers. This is
[38:50] Speaker 1: what you were playing for. Okay. Hey, if he looks
[38:53] Speaker 1: like that, they go win a playoff game for the
[38:57] Speaker 1: first time since, yeah, they ain't won a playoff game
[39:02] Speaker 1: since Obama.
[39:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a long time. And you assume Mike
[39:05] Speaker 2: Tomlin's not going to be giving up 32 points every
[39:07] Speaker 2: weekend and week out.
[39:09] Speaker 1: No, no, but hey, man, that's them New York Jets, baby. Like,
[39:14] Speaker 1: we'll see what it looks like at the end of
[39:15] Speaker 1: the year, but hey, man, my man A.G., you know
[39:17] Speaker 1: what I'm saying, is my man, H-Town, Northside, no less.
[39:21] Speaker 1: If Eric Lynn got the Jets looking like this, hey, man, shoot,
[39:26] Speaker 1: he keep that going fireman ed might even vote for
[39:28] Speaker 1: zoron well let me tell you if there's anything that
[39:31] Speaker 1: i can say with confidence about fireman ed he does
[39:34] Speaker 1: not live in the five.
[39:35] Speaker 2: Even if he did Even if he somehow, you know,
[39:42] Speaker 2: trekked from Staten Island to... That's exactly what I was
[39:46] Speaker 2: about to say. If he is in one.
[39:48] Speaker 1: Of the five boroughs, I know exactly which one it is.
[39:52] Speaker 2: I promise you he was not casting a vote for
[39:55] Speaker 2: Big Z.
[39:56] Speaker 1: No.
[39:59] Speaker 2: All right. Anyway, last story here. You alluded to this.
[40:02] Speaker 2: The Dolphins got blown out by Daniel Jones and the Colts.
[40:06] Speaker 2: They lost 33 to 8. Daniel Jones... The Colts became
[40:09] Speaker 2: the first team since 1977 to score on every possession,
[40:14] Speaker 2: according to ESPN research. Tyreek Hill noticeably upset on the sideline. Bo,
[40:19] Speaker 2: your thoughts.
[40:20] Speaker 1: One, I don't know how long they can allow him
[40:22] Speaker 1: to stay on that team. Like you and I were
[40:25] Speaker 1: just talking about the unceremonious end for Howard Stern.
[40:28] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[40:29] Speaker 1: And the truth is, if you are serious, you people
[40:31] Speaker 1: who have never worked in radio don't quite get this.
[40:34] Speaker 1: But this is the truth, man. If you are serious
[40:36] Speaker 1: and you decide that you're not going to bring Howard
[40:38] Speaker 1: Stern back, it can't be no farewell show.
[40:42] Speaker 5: No.
[40:42] Speaker 1: You're going to hate that show. That farewell show is
[40:46] Speaker 1: not going to be pleasant.
[40:47] Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how many people buy serious to listen
[40:50] Speaker 2: to that farewell show. It's not going to be worth it.
[40:52] Speaker 1: Broke people act a fool on their last radio show,
[40:57] Speaker 1: let alone a man with hundreds of millions of dollars.
[41:00] Speaker 1: You just can't let some people stick around while they're grumpy.
[41:03] Speaker 4: Right.
[41:04] Speaker 1: This is just the nature of the business. Tyreek Hill,
[41:07] Speaker 1: who they did not make the captain. Everybody seems out
[41:10] Speaker 1: on him. Y'all had to get rid of him. Like
[41:12] Speaker 1: bringing him back is a little bit crazy, given what
[41:15] Speaker 1: the circumstances are. And it's week one. He's on the
[41:17] Speaker 1: sideline looking like this. They've gotten beat by 25 points
[41:22] Speaker 1: three times in the four years that McDaniel has been there.
[41:27] Speaker 1: I think most of us like him. We would like
[41:29] Speaker 1: to see it go well for him. But that experiment
[41:31] Speaker 1: seems to have run out of rope.
[41:34] Speaker 2: You know, there's nothing wrong with being the offensive coordinator
[41:37] Speaker 2: for the 49ers or the Lions next year.
[41:39] Speaker 1: That is correct. Now, the problem, of course, here is
[41:43] Speaker 1: some of this is Mike McDaniel. But his wagon has
[41:47] Speaker 1: been hitched to a guy that I feel very confident
[41:50] Speaker 1: saying just ain't got it. And that's Tua. Like, I
[41:54] Speaker 1: just don't. If everything with him, if everything is going right,
[41:59] Speaker 1: he can do it is not simply about the surrounding talent.
[42:02] Speaker 1: It's about like the execution. If everything is running on time,
[42:07] Speaker 1: he's got this for you, right? Otherwise, not so much.
[42:11] Speaker 1: And that's before we talk about, you know, maybe out
[42:14] Speaker 1: here trying to kill him. Like we haven't even gotten
[42:18] Speaker 1: to that point, but that was... That was a staggeringly
[42:22] Speaker 1: embarrassing performance to come out of the gate.
[42:25] Speaker 2: For a team that the rumors were the vibes are bad,
[42:29] Speaker 2: the vibes are bad, the vibes are bad. And then
[42:31] Speaker 2: you get blown. The door is blown off you by
[42:34] Speaker 2: Daniel Jones.
[42:35] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[42:36] Speaker 1: And look, the rest of your division, the Patriots, they
[42:38] Speaker 1: didn't win against the Raiders, but I still think a
[42:40] Speaker 1: lot of it came out like, eh, could have been worse.
[42:42] Speaker 4: Right.
[42:43] Speaker 1: The Jets, not too shabby. Miami could not have been
[42:47] Speaker 1: worse could not have been worse but at once it
[42:50] Speaker 1: couldn't have been worse but also didn't feel like an
[42:52] Speaker 1: outlier performance.
[42:54] Speaker 2: Right it didn't feel I didn't feel like we're a
[42:56] Speaker 2: game where everything goes wrong you have bad fumble luck
[42:58] Speaker 2: you know you're driving like you you referenced you know
[43:00] Speaker 2: drop a kickoff or something but it was just they
[43:04] Speaker 2: they they did not it's never good when you're quitting
[43:06] Speaker 2: week one hey man.
[43:08] Speaker 1: Did you know that Zach Wilson is wearing number zero.
[43:12] Speaker 2: No, I did not. He's still in the league.
[43:16] Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
[43:17] Speaker 1: At age like 26, right?
[43:18] Speaker 4: Right.
[43:18] Speaker 1: Look, I don't like that they let people go willy-nilly
[43:23] Speaker 1: with the numbers. That feels like an old man take,
[43:26] Speaker 1: but it's chaos. I don't dig that.
[43:29] Speaker 2: We live in a society.
[43:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[43:31] Speaker 5: Right.
[43:31] Speaker 1: I don't dig it. And I think the, can they
[43:33] Speaker 1: wear a number zero? Nah, I don't think we should
[43:35] Speaker 1: have allowed that unless you were like, Jim Otto, double zero, maybe, right? Like,
[43:39] Speaker 1: I wasn't here for this. But, Wearing number zero is
[43:44] Speaker 1: not quarterback behavior. You understand what I'm saying? Like, I
[43:48] Speaker 1: don't think showing up to the press conference wearing all
[43:51] Speaker 1: the funny looking clothes is quarterback behavior either. Like, I
[43:54] Speaker 1: think the quarterback is a different role. You can put
[43:56] Speaker 1: yourself in a different way. If you are wearing number zero,
[44:00] Speaker 1: that's personal foul behavior.
[44:03] Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying? That's commissioner's list behavior.
[44:07] Speaker 1: Like, number zero is for wild cards. you're not supposed
[44:12] Speaker 1: to be no wild card. Like that's, you know what
[44:14] Speaker 1: that is? That's a number for characters.
[44:18] Speaker 2: And Zach Wilson's a lot of things. He's not a character.
[44:20] Speaker 1: He is not a character. No, no, no, no, no.
[44:22] Speaker 1: He is not. Or at the very least, even if
[44:25] Speaker 1: you are a character, like Cam Newton didn't go full
[44:27] Speaker 1: character until after he was somebody's quarterback.
[44:30] Speaker 4: Right.
[44:30] Speaker 1: The quarterback is not supposed to be a character. I
[44:34] Speaker 1: saw Kyler Murray wearing some funny looking pink pants coming
[44:37] Speaker 1: in the studio and I was in the stadium and.
[44:39] Speaker 3: I was like, hey man, It's not quarterback behavior, brother.
[44:43] Speaker 3: That's character behavior.
[44:45] Speaker 2: All right, Bo, we've opened up the voicemail line, you know,
[44:52] Speaker 2: to anything and everything. Got some good submissions this week.
[44:56] Speaker 2: Let's take a listen.
[44:57] Speaker 4: Hey, Bo.
[44:59] Speaker 6: I'm a childless man like yourself who's a little older,
[45:04] Speaker 6: younger than you, but still a little on the older side.
[45:07] Speaker 6: My friends are now starting to finally have kids. I
[45:11] Speaker 6: don't interact with a lot of children in my current
[45:15] Speaker 6: state in life. However, I feel like kids are ruder
[45:21] Speaker 6: than they used to be. And I was wondering if
[45:24] Speaker 6: you felt the same or if it's just like every
[45:27] Speaker 6: generation thinks the younger generation is a little ruder. It's
[45:31] Speaker 6: mostly that they just cut in front of me. I
[45:33] Speaker 6: don't know what it is, but I feel like with
[45:36] Speaker 6: this group of children more than others, adults are just
[45:39] Speaker 6: kind of invisible to them.
[45:43] Speaker 3: That's an interesting question. Ryan, there was a lot of
[45:50] Speaker 3: subtle shade.
[45:51] Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if you're saying kids are ruder
[45:55] Speaker 2: or parents are worse.
[45:56] Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about all that shit before.
[45:58] Speaker 3: You know, I'm a little on the older side.
[45:59] Speaker 1: You know, not as old as you.
[46:02] Speaker 2: I didn't think we had. I think I took that
[46:05] Speaker 2: personally situation.
[46:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just kind of like, oh, OK. Like,
[46:09] Speaker 1: I guess I'll answer your question. I don't know, man.
[46:12] Speaker 1: You got to remember, kids love me. Like, I am.
[46:15] Speaker 1: I don't know why. I am everybody's favorite uncle type
[46:18] Speaker 1: of situation with kids. And they might be a little
[46:21] Speaker 1: ruder than they used to be, but you know what
[46:23] Speaker 1: they still are? Kids, right? You give them that look,
[46:27] Speaker 1: they still know what that look means. Like, and especially
[46:30] Speaker 1: if they ain't never really got it before, it really
[46:33] Speaker 1: hits them from a stranger grown up that they kind
[46:37] Speaker 1: of know a little bit, though. They respond. Oh, yeah.
[46:40] Speaker 5: Hey.
[46:41] Speaker 1: Because they know what they're not supposed to be doing. Like,
[46:43] Speaker 1: that is one of my favorite things about, like, kids
[46:45] Speaker 1: before they're old enough to talk. Like, Ryan, your son's
[46:47] Speaker 1: about two. You know exactly what I'm talking about. They
[46:50] Speaker 1: know when they're not supposed to be doing something. Yes.
[46:52] Speaker 1: And when you catch them in it and just give
[46:54] Speaker 1: them that look like, you know you're not supposed to
[46:57] Speaker 1: be doing that. You see it wash over them like.
[47:00] Speaker 2: My son is not old enough to be rude, but
[47:02] Speaker 2: he's certainly old enough to know when he's not supposed
[47:04] Speaker 2: to be doing stuff. Yes. Mostly because he thinks it's funny. Yes.
[47:08] Speaker 1: But they give that. Peek around the corner. They still
[47:13] Speaker 1: do all of that stuff.
[47:13] Speaker 2: They got the smart, yeah.
[47:14] Speaker 7: Yep.
[47:15] Speaker 1: And when you give them the A, they chill out.
[47:20] Speaker 1: And sometimes they chuckle and laugh about it. Like, I
[47:23] Speaker 1: remember the first time with Nick's daughter. She was small
[47:25] Speaker 1: enough for that. She did try to run some of
[47:27] Speaker 1: that game on me. Because, of course, she would think
[47:28] Speaker 1: she could run game on me. I'd give her the world.
[47:30] Speaker 4: Right?
[47:31] Speaker 1: She tried to run that game on me, and I
[47:32] Speaker 1: just looked at her like... What did you say? And
[47:34] Speaker 1: she was just like, okay, tried it. Just see if
[47:38] Speaker 1: it will work.
[47:38] Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. When they're two and you're the grown-up,
[47:42] Speaker 2: you've got to be the winner in that situation.
[47:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. You can't be outsmarted.
[47:45] Speaker 2: You can't be outsmarted. You can try not to be
[47:47] Speaker 2: outsmarted by a two-year-old.
[47:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Last thing, you can't negotiate with terrorists. Just
[47:53] Speaker 1: throwing it out there.
[47:55] Speaker 2: All right, here's our next one.
[47:57] Speaker 5: What's up, folks? This is your boy, Javon. Coming out
[48:00] Speaker 5: of the southwest side of H-Town by way of Louisiana,
[48:03] Speaker 5: Lake Charles, I-10 by 10. Don't stop inviting. You already
[48:07] Speaker 5: know what it is. Man, I got a question for you.
[48:10] Speaker 5: I know you grew up in the mid-90s in Houston
[48:13] Speaker 5: on the north side, but what are your thoughts on
[48:17] Speaker 5: screw music? I've never heard you talk about it. Maybe
[48:21] Speaker 5: you have before, but I'm just curious. Do you like it? Like,
[48:24] Speaker 5: what do you think of it? Like, do you still
[48:26] Speaker 5: listen to it? You grew up in an era where
[48:28] Speaker 5: that was basically coming about in Houston. So I'm just
[48:31] Speaker 5: curious your take on screw music. And, you know, if
[48:35] Speaker 5: you like it, how do you feel it represents Houston?
[48:37] Speaker 5: Appreciate it, man.
[48:38] Speaker 4: Love the show.
[48:40] Speaker 1: Hey, Rice, a little bit of you, a little bit
[48:41] Speaker 1: of me, right?
[48:42] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
[48:43] Speaker 1: Coming from Lake Charles to Houston. Of course, my part
[48:46] Speaker 1: of Houston and his part of Houston are damn near
[48:48] Speaker 1: as far from each other as Lake Charles and Houston,
[48:50] Speaker 1: but that's a discussion for another day.
[48:52] Speaker 2: That's like Manhattan and Brooklyn.
[48:54] Speaker 4: Yes.
[48:54] Speaker 1: So, yeah, the screw thing got popping when I was
[48:57] Speaker 1: in high school. Like, I want to say Pimp the
[48:59] Speaker 1: Pin came out when I was in 10th or 11th grade.
[49:03] Speaker 3: Like, I know it's 95, and those of you who
[49:04] Speaker 3: are not from Houston.
[49:05] Speaker 1: Draped up and dripped out, know what I'm talking about.
[49:08] Speaker 1: Three in the morning, got the burner out the stash spot.
[49:11] Speaker 1: That joint, right? Um... Not for me. Not for me.
[49:18] Speaker 1: And the reason it's not for me is actually like
[49:21] Speaker 1: fairly simple I think it's obvious if you listen to
[49:23] Speaker 1: screw a couple things one I don't I ain't never
[49:27] Speaker 1: said no lean right like the the the setting for
[49:30] Speaker 1: this music is just always been a bit lost on
[49:34] Speaker 1: me um but there are things like You chop and
[49:38] Speaker 1: screw to write Slow Jam, I'm with it. Like, there
[49:41] Speaker 1: are songs that you can chop and screw that I'll
[49:43] Speaker 1: go for. My thing with Screw Tapes was.
[49:50] Speaker 1: It was an absolute and total lack of quality control.
[49:56] Speaker 1: They let anybody get on these songs, rap it, they
[50:00] Speaker 1: be like, man, he freestyling. I would hope so!
[50:03] Speaker 4: Yeah!
[50:04] Speaker 1: If you took the time to write that down and
[50:07] Speaker 1: edit it, what are you talking about, right? And so
[50:09] Speaker 1: they let anybody in there on them songs talk about anything,
[50:14] Speaker 1: talk about nothing. So when you get cats that can
[50:16] Speaker 1: actually rap and get on it. And so when the
[50:18] Speaker 1: Swisher House stuff started coming out and they had more
[50:20] Speaker 1: cats that could rap, I'm like, okay, I can see
[50:23] Speaker 1: what's going on here. But it was just... It also was,
[50:27] Speaker 1: and this is for me, and this changed over time.
[50:29] Speaker 1: The Mixtape Messiah series, when Commillionaire came out there and
[50:31] Speaker 1: was like, hey man, we got to step the game up.
[50:33] Speaker 1: And you look at how much better rappers from Houston
[50:35] Speaker 1: are now than they were then. That was a much
[50:38] Speaker 1: more impactful piece of media than I think anybody gives
[50:41] Speaker 1: you credit for because it was like, look man, the
[50:42] Speaker 1: rest of the country out here laughing at us. I
[50:44] Speaker 1: don't know if it was going that far, but as
[50:46] Speaker 1: somebody who knew him back in the day, I knew
[50:48] Speaker 1: exactly where he was coming from.
[50:49] Speaker 3: I knew what he was into.
[50:50] Speaker 1: I knew all that stuff, right? I totally get it.
[50:54] Speaker 1: But For me, it just got to a point that
[50:58] Speaker 1: as I'm listening to it, that I understand that locally
[51:02] Speaker 1: there is a bit of a rejection of what was
[51:05] Speaker 1: considered to be quote unquote hip hop versus rap because
[51:08] Speaker 1: of the rejection that Southerners felt from those people toward
[51:12] Speaker 1: their culture and toward their music. Like, you know, it's
[51:15] Speaker 1: the Pimp C line, these country rap tunes. But let
[51:17] Speaker 1: me tell you what Pimp C had, incredibly high quality control. Right? Like,
[51:22] Speaker 1: that was in place there. And so for me and
[51:24] Speaker 1: them Screwtastes, they were just cranking them bad boys out.
[51:26] Speaker 1: Because they were like, man, these cats don't care if
[51:27] Speaker 1: anybody can rap. Just give them some beats, and that'll
[51:31] Speaker 1: do the job. And me, as somebody who did like
[51:34] Speaker 1: all that hip-hop and was into different stuff, I just
[51:37] Speaker 1: wanted the music to be a little bit better. But
[51:39] Speaker 1: when it was good, it was good.
[51:42] Speaker 2: All right, here's our next one.
[51:44] Speaker 8: Hi, Bo.
[51:45] Speaker 7: Enjoy the show. Just wondering from your perspective, at this
[51:48] Speaker 7: point in their respective careers, Whose rap legacy is more salvageable?
[51:55] Speaker 7: Is it Kanye or is it Drake? You asked me,
[51:59] Speaker 7: both of them have taken so many self-inflicted L's, it's
[52:02] Speaker 7: impossible to see how any one of them would be
[52:07] Speaker 7: able to get back on the winning track of any way.
[52:11] Speaker 7: And I don't see a path either way. So, in
[52:15] Speaker 7: your opinion, who do you think has the better shot?
[52:18] Speaker 3: Nah, brother, I don't think anybody's winning this contest.
[52:22] Speaker 1: One, especially for Kanye, he's too old. He's too old,
[52:26] Speaker 1: and I don't know how he could put together anything
[52:28] Speaker 1: dope enough that the people that are out on him
[52:32] Speaker 1: would care to check it out. I don't think he
[52:34] Speaker 1: has anything left, and I need to be careful because
[52:37] Speaker 1: I haven't listened to anything he's made in seven years,
[52:40] Speaker 1: at least at this point.
[52:40] Speaker 2: It's been a long time.
[52:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I think the last thing I checked out
[52:44] Speaker 1: was the record he did in Wyoming, the Ye Joint.
[52:48] Speaker 1: And so I was just like, all right, hey man,
[52:50] Speaker 1: it happens.
[52:51] Speaker 3: Sometimes you ain't got nothing left, right?
[52:55] Speaker 1: With Drake, I don't know if he can get it back.
[52:59] Speaker 1: Like part of what he had was a bit of
[53:00] Speaker 1: a vibe or as the kids say, an aura. I
[53:03] Speaker 1: don't know if he can get it back, but he's
[53:05] Speaker 1: also 39 years old. Like he might have to go
[53:08] Speaker 1: away for a long time and come back with like
[53:10] Speaker 1: one of them, like the LL Cool J album that
[53:12] Speaker 1: just came out that he did with Q-Tip. Like look man,
[53:14] Speaker 1: the old dudes all came back and wrecked shop this year.
[53:17] Speaker 1: They all came back at Rep Shop. LL Cool J,
[53:21] Speaker 1: you know, the Clips joint ain't my favorite, but they
[53:23] Speaker 1: came and they did it. And there's other examples of
[53:25] Speaker 1: these cats that came back around. That Raekwon album, not
[53:28] Speaker 1: my favorite, but not bad. I still need to listen
[53:30] Speaker 1: to the new Supreme clientele. But people of that generation
[53:33] Speaker 1: came back and made a lot of really good records.
[53:35] Speaker 1: But these are guys that go back to a time
[53:37] Speaker 1: where the thing that was most important was how good
[53:39] Speaker 1: you could rap. And Drake is a really good rapper
[53:42] Speaker 1: when he's on it, but it was the vibes, man.
[53:45] Speaker 1: Like that's what he was selling as much as anything
[53:47] Speaker 1: else was vibes and lifestyle.
[53:49] Speaker 3: People don't believe in no more.
[53:50] Speaker 2: And like you said, we talked about these people are old.
[53:54] Speaker 2: Rap's a young game. And, you know, after 10, how
[53:58] Speaker 2: many of these great rappers last past 10 years, right?
[54:02] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[54:02] Speaker 2: 10, 15 years. I mean, and that's how, I mean,
[54:04] Speaker 2: how far Kanye and Drake are going back.
[54:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, look, man, Drake, let's say, Drake has had a very,
[54:08] Speaker 1: very long career. Like, the expectation that you could keep
[54:11] Speaker 1: this going at this point is asking for a lot
[54:14] Speaker 1: out of this dude. But, hey, man, once people stop
[54:17] Speaker 1: believing you, it's hard. Only man to come back from
[54:22] Speaker 1: us not believing him was Rick Ross. It's hard to
[54:26] Speaker 1: come back from that. And people just don't believe it.
[54:30] Speaker 1: And I don't think that he matured in a way where, look,
[54:32] Speaker 1: his base, man, people 40 years old now. And they,
[54:36] Speaker 1: only people that still want to hear what Drake used
[54:38] Speaker 1: to be or what Drake has become is suckers.
[54:42] Speaker 2: All right, here's our last one.
[54:44] Speaker 4: What's going on, Bo? It's Jamal from D.C. Not sure
[54:48] Speaker 4: if you came across this yet, but Starz has a
[54:50] Speaker 4: documentary about Magic City. And so I'm just curious to
[54:54] Speaker 4: see If you have any interesting or podcast appropriate stories
[54:59] Speaker 4: about about times that you may have been to Magic City.
[55:04] Speaker 4: Long time listener. Appreciate it. Keep it up.
[55:09] Speaker 1: The first time I went to a gentleman's establishment, I
[55:11] Speaker 1: was 18 years old and I went to Magic City
[55:14] Speaker 1: and I didn't know anything like that was possible. The
[55:18] Speaker 1: second time I went to Magic City, I was 21
[55:20] Speaker 1: years old. And I spent the last $ 35 I had
[55:24] Speaker 1: to my name at Magic City. I should stop there.
[55:31] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here
[55:34] Speaker 1: on the right time. Mama listen to this fool. Oh,
[55:40] Speaker 1: we do this here three times a week and sometimes
[55:43] Speaker 1: a little bit more. Ryan Brumley handles everything behind the scenes.
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