# Mahomes ACL tear ends Chiefs era, Sherrone Moore Saga unfolds, Philip Rivers returns | 12.15

An episode of [The Right Time with Bomani Jones](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/982639043), 15 Dec 2025, 56 min.

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Bomani Jones reacts to Patrick Mahomes ending his season with a torn ACL and discusses what is next for the Kansas City Chiefs. Later, he breaks down everything going on with Sherrone Moore & Michigan and wonders where they both go from here. Finally, he reacts to Phillip Rivers' comeback for the Colts, the Rams big win over the Detroit Lions, Kalen DeBeor saying he is staying at Alabama and much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:05] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
[0:09] Speaker 1: My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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[0:21] Speaker 1: a hater. We will get to the Sharon Brown story. Sorry,
[0:25] Speaker 1: we did a lot of pre-recording last week and then
[0:28] Speaker 1: that shit happened. So, you know. Shouldn't have left you
[0:31] Speaker 1: without a dope beat step, too. However, it just works
[0:33] Speaker 1: out that way sometimes.
[0:34] Speaker 2: Uh, Shrung Moore.
[0:38] Speaker 1: You know who I was mixing him up with, Ryan? I.
[0:41] Speaker 3: I.
[0:41] Speaker 2: You said they, uh... Senator, the old, the Senator from Ohio.
[0:45] Speaker 1: Yes, I was. Yes, I was. I was visiting him
[0:48] Speaker 1: up with, how does he say it? Sherrod?
[0:51] Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it looks like Sherrod, but I believe
[0:54] Speaker 2: it's Sherrod.
[0:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he goes with Sherrod. And I wonder, like.
[0:57] Speaker 2: They don't make a lot of either of those.
[0:59] Speaker 1: Right, and when Sherrod, like, became a thing, was he
[1:03] Speaker 1: sitting around saying y'all are saying it wrong?
[1:07] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:07] Speaker 1: Like, it means he's just insisting. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[1:11] Speaker 1: It is Sherrod, not Sherrod. And somebody was like, hey, Rob,
[1:15] Speaker 1: what you say, bro? I ain't even really understand you
[1:18] Speaker 1: like that.
[1:19] Speaker 2: It depends on what parts of Ohio he was in.
[1:21] Speaker 1: Yeah, I have so many questions because I also feel
[1:22] Speaker 1: like his Sherrod precedes the proliferation of Sherrods in the
[1:29] Speaker 1: larger society.
[1:30] Speaker 4: Right?
[1:32] Speaker 1: Or perhaps when he was born, I guess somebody thought
[1:36] Speaker 1: it was He had a different daddy. You know what
[1:39] Speaker 1: I mean? Many things are possible. Anything can happen. Anyway,
[1:44] Speaker 1: it is Sherold Moore. You are correct. And I'm glad
[1:47] Speaker 1: I had funny jokes to make off of that. Otherwise,
[1:50] Speaker 1: we'd have had to re-rack and start it again. However,
[1:53] Speaker 1: we're here.
[1:54] Speaker 3: Here we are.
[1:54] Speaker 1: We're rolling. We'll get to that. And now I have
[1:57] Speaker 1: to put on my solemn face because Patrick Mahomes has
[2:00] Speaker 1: a torn ACL. Best quarterback I believe that I have
[2:04] Speaker 1: ever seen and seen. One that I don't have the
[2:07] Speaker 1: greatest interpretation of his play this year, but I'm just
[2:09] Speaker 1: not inclined to believe that out of nowhere he became terrible.
[2:12] Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is creating a similar conversation, although he don't
[2:20] Speaker 1: play good. I don't understand that either. But either way,
[2:24] Speaker 1: with Mahomes, it's a torn ACL. It happens. Basically, they
[2:30] Speaker 1: weren't going to win that game. They're not going to
[2:32] Speaker 1: go to the playoffs anymore. So almost in a way,
[2:36] Speaker 1: it wouldn't have mattered if they were 13 and 0, right?
[2:43] Speaker 1: Mahomes has his ACL. All of this is moot. It's
[2:46] Speaker 1: a wrap on you guys. You're done. They try to
[2:49] Speaker 1: garden a miss you out there. Like, come on, man.
[2:51] Speaker 1: It just ain't going to be. Now, obviously, you don't
[2:57] Speaker 1: want your quarterback to suffer a major injury. But I
[3:02] Speaker 1: think it's very interesting to consider at times, like, ACL
[3:05] Speaker 1: still sounds like ACL. You know what a torn ACL
[3:08] Speaker 1: is in a lot of ways? A torn ACL is
[3:12] Speaker 1: a lot like the word millionaire. Okay? And here's what
[3:16] Speaker 1: I mean by that. Millionaire at one time meant someone
[3:24] Speaker 1: who had $ 1 million or someone who made $ 1 million
[3:29] Speaker 1: a year, however you want to put it, right? Okay. However,
[3:34] Speaker 1: What a million dollars means is much different now than
[3:41] Speaker 1: what it used to mean. It used to mean you
[3:44] Speaker 1: had a much more of a staggering sum of money
[3:47] Speaker 1: because inflation, da, da, da, everything else, right? So like
[3:51] Speaker 1: people who are millionaires now, the word in technically speaking,
[3:59] Speaker 1: May mean the same thing, what a million dollars is,
[4:02] Speaker 1: but in the actual function of it, not quite. But
[4:04] Speaker 1: when people call somebody a millionaire, they still mean it
[4:08] Speaker 1: like they did back in the days of Daddy Warbucks, right?
[4:12] Speaker 1: They say it the exact same way, they mean it
[4:15] Speaker 1: the same way, but a million dollars ain't the same.
[4:17] Speaker 1: Torn ACL is very similar in the sense that while
[4:21] Speaker 1: it is a lot of injury, just as a million
[4:24] Speaker 1: dollars is still a lot of money. But Robin Leach
[4:30] Speaker 1: ain't showing up on your house for no one million dollars.
[4:33] Speaker 1: And there's a little bit less doom and gloom around
[4:36] Speaker 1: the idea that you have a torn ACL.
[4:39] Speaker 3: Right.
[4:40] Speaker 1: I think it is fair to assume that at some
[4:44] Speaker 1: point next season, Patrick Mahomes will be back. I think
[4:49] Speaker 1: it would be silly to try to rush that process, right?
[4:53] Speaker 1: You don't need to get yourself on no Robert Griffin
[4:56] Speaker 1: all in for week one situation. Go ahead and take
[5:00] Speaker 1: your time and take this opportunity to look around the
[5:05] Speaker 1: place and ask yourself, What kind of changes is it
[5:09] Speaker 1: that you need to make? Because maybe y'all need to
[5:13] Speaker 1: make some changes. And I say that because, Ryan, how
[5:17] Speaker 1: many of them went 15 games last year?
[5:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, they went 15-2.
[5:21] Speaker 1: They went 15-2, and they went to the Super Bowl.
[5:24] Speaker 1: And yes, they got their clocks cleaned in the Super Bowl,
[5:27] Speaker 1: and it was a bit of a cliffhanger season, but
[5:30] Speaker 1: They won 15 games last year. And I think most
[5:34] Speaker 1: of us believed that they got better.
[5:36] Speaker 2: Right.
[5:37] Speaker 1: After last year, coming into this year, the advanced numbers,
[5:40] Speaker 1: like we talked about this DVOA, they were top 10
[5:42] Speaker 1: DVOA team, but they lived at the margins last year.
[5:45] Speaker 1: And this year at those same margins, it was going
[5:48] Speaker 1: in the opposite direction. And that makes it somewhat difficult
[5:50] Speaker 1: to evaluate how good you are or are not, right?
[5:55] Speaker 1: From where I'm standing. I do think, and you tell
[5:57] Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong here, Chris Jones is a thank
[6:01] Speaker 1: you for the memories. We're going to play a real
[6:02] Speaker 1: long video when you come back and play against us
[6:05] Speaker 1: for another team, one that you will try to seek
[6:07] Speaker 1: out in your own division because you're going to be mad.
[6:10] Speaker 2: Right.
[6:11] Speaker 1: Right. Like Chris Jones, Denver Bronco. I don't know anything
[6:14] Speaker 1: about the cap or anything else, but that's the kind
[6:16] Speaker 1: of stuff that happens. Right.
[6:18] Speaker 3: Right.
[6:19] Speaker 1: They're going to have decisions to make about him. Travis Kelsey.
[6:22] Speaker 1: This has to be over. Right. I mean, I don't
[6:25] Speaker 1: think he's been bad this year, but I don't know.
[6:28] Speaker 1: How much money you can keep pumping into this? I
[6:30] Speaker 1: don't know how much more he's going to want to do. Like,
[6:32] Speaker 1: you think he want to come back and play with
[6:33] Speaker 1: no guard to miss you?
[6:34] Speaker 2: And he's got, let's say, other things he can do.
[6:37] Speaker 1: He does. He does. Matter of time before he and
[6:42] Speaker 1: Klay Thompson get a podcast together. Clay Johnson, you see
[6:48] Speaker 1: that where Megan Stallion put that video up of her
[6:51] Speaker 1: picking out his clothes for him and then putting that
[6:54] Speaker 1: thang on him and then he showed up in those clothes.
[6:56] Speaker 1: I'm surprised that he even still comes to the games.
[7:01] Speaker 2: Right like again again someone with better options.
[7:05] Speaker 1: Yo he is in and i look good good for
[7:08] Speaker 1: all the people involved i want to be very clear.
[7:10] Speaker 2: About everyone involved seems very happy.
[7:12] Speaker 1: Yeah but clay thompson in particular look like that kind
[7:15] Speaker 1: of like i'm in college love right right like it
[7:18] Speaker 1: hits you for the first time and college love can
[7:21] Speaker 1: definitely have you skipping classes I don't know how much
[7:26] Speaker 1: longer she's going to keep on rapping.
[7:28] Speaker 3: All of this.
[7:29] Speaker 1: But I look at him in particular. I don't even know.
[7:32] Speaker 1: And y'all ain't even good. I'm sorry. You want to
[7:36] Speaker 1: talk about going through the motions in practice. Especially with
[7:41] Speaker 1: that dumpster fire that they've got over there.
[7:45] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Who wants to go to work and hang
[7:47] Speaker 2: out with Jason Kidd?
[7:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. When nothing's going the way that it was
[7:51] Speaker 1: supposed to. You see, what's his name?
[7:53] Speaker 5: Lively?
[7:53] Speaker 1: He got hurt.
[7:54] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[7:55] Speaker 1: So, like, all the reasons we thought they might be
[7:58] Speaker 1: able to make, you know, make something out of that situation.
[8:01] Speaker 2: They're going to trade Anthony Davis. Yeah, it's... Yeah. I
[8:04] Speaker 2: don't know. I think... The Mavericks and Klay Thompson have
[8:09] Speaker 2: agreed to a contract buyout for X amount of numbers.
[8:12] Speaker 2: Feels very March-ish.
[8:13] Speaker 1: Yes, although it's entirely possible that Klay... None of this
[8:17] Speaker 1: bothers him.
[8:18] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[8:19] Speaker 1: He could be... He might just be showing up to
[8:21] Speaker 1: work like, oh man, we lost again.
[8:22] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[8:23] Speaker 1: Shucks. Shucks.
[8:25] Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to my very famous, very attractive,
[8:29] Speaker 2: very talented wife who's also... A very good cook on
[8:32] Speaker 2: the side.
[8:33] Speaker 1: And my four championships rings that I've already acquired.
[8:36] Speaker 2: And my nearly $ 300 million I made playing basketball.
[8:39] Speaker 1: Why does he still come to work? I don't understand
[8:44] Speaker 1: why he still comes to work. Patrick Mahomes might be
[8:47] Speaker 1: itching to get his ass back, though, but that's neither
[8:48] Speaker 1: here nor there.
[8:49] Speaker 2: Talk about a spouse who might start a podcast.
[8:51] Speaker 1: I'm just saying might. I don't know nothing that's going
[8:55] Speaker 1: on in their life, right? I've seen enough of Klay
[8:57] Speaker 1: Thompson to know what's going on there. Patrick Mahomes, I
[9:00] Speaker 1: have no idea. I'm just throwing up the possibility that
[9:03] Speaker 1: you might be out here putting in work, right?
[9:07] Speaker 2: Aggressively attacking his rehab.
[9:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, here I was talking about he ain't going to
[9:11] Speaker 1: get back for week one. You never know. He might
[9:14] Speaker 1: be like, No, I'll be back for OTAs. Who's to say?
[9:19] Speaker 1: We got somebody we'll talk about a little bit later
[9:22] Speaker 1: that apparently, you know, didn't want to be home that
[9:25] Speaker 1: bad himself. But they got to figure some stuff out, man.
[9:29] Speaker 1: All right. Like the Chiefs are in a situation now.
[9:32] Speaker 1: And it's not just simply that they have to figure
[9:33] Speaker 1: some stuff out. They have the opportunity to do it.
[9:37] Speaker 1: This can happen where you get something a little bad happens.
[9:40] Speaker 1: And now, you know, sometimes it is that somebody will
[9:44] Speaker 1: go in and they'll have one surgery. But since they
[9:49] Speaker 1: in there for the first surgery, like go ahead and
[9:51] Speaker 1: be like, OK, well, since you're going to be laid up,
[9:53] Speaker 1: why don't we go ahead and do this scope on
[9:55] Speaker 1: your ankle, too? Right. That happens sometimes. feel like that
[10:01] Speaker 1: is the situation the Chiefs are in this is a
[10:03] Speaker 1: question that my good buddy Charlie Kravitz brought up while
[10:06] Speaker 1: we were talking both bouncing things I was preparing for
[10:09] Speaker 1: our various shows but Kravitz made a very interesting point
[10:11] Speaker 1: about this Kyle Shanahan over there making it happen with
[10:16] Speaker 1: Matt Corkle Jones. They got a receiver they spend like
[10:21] Speaker 1: $ 30 million a year on. They just got rid of him. Like,
[10:26] Speaker 1: he doesn't even play. Christian McCaffrey's gotten old. George Kittle
[10:30] Speaker 1: is whatever age he is, whatever. But you hand Kyle
[10:33] Speaker 1: Shanahan whatever, Kyle Shanahan will cook up an offense for you.
[10:40] Speaker 1: Andy Reid has... perhaps the best quarterback of all time. And,
[10:48] Speaker 1: I mean, we generally agreed that what they had going
[10:51] Speaker 1: on at receiver was pretty good coming into this year,
[10:53] Speaker 1: especially after they got Rasheed Rice back, right? Like, remember,
[10:56] Speaker 1: we thought that anything that we thought was short with
[10:59] Speaker 1: that offense, well, once he came back off of that suspension,
[11:02] Speaker 1: we're looking at it like, oh, okay, cool. Well, now
[11:04] Speaker 1: they're going to be straight, right? Like, I felt good
[11:06] Speaker 1: about seeing Thornton. Like, they had speed. They had guys
[11:08] Speaker 1: that could at least get down the field and get open.
[11:11] Speaker 1: They're not able to generate much offense. They're not able
[11:13] Speaker 1: to run the ball. This game against the Chargers, they
[11:15] Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball. How much of that is scheme, right?
[11:22] Speaker 1: How much of that is not a question of how
[11:24] Speaker 1: good the coach is. It's a question of how good
[11:28] Speaker 1: of a job the coach is doing, given what they had. Mike,
[11:33] Speaker 1: now's the chance and opportunity for them to do the
[11:36] Speaker 1: math on all of these things. because worst case scenario
[11:44] Speaker 1: just showed up man like like this is the thing
[11:47] Speaker 1: we're at that time of year in the nfl where
[11:50] Speaker 1: now the guys are dropping like flies um and we're
[11:53] Speaker 1: not at the point of the 17th game of the
[11:55] Speaker 1: season but i mean i think some of this does
[11:57] Speaker 1: wind up being cumulative year over year or whatever but
[11:59] Speaker 1: every additional game of football you play is another chance
[12:02] Speaker 1: for a catastrophe right that's just kind of how how
[12:05] Speaker 1: it goes uh michael parsons that sounds like an acl
[12:09] Speaker 1: tear um Ryan, they say in all the things they
[12:13] Speaker 1: say when they know it's an ACL tear, but they
[12:15] Speaker 1: just hope it gets hope with that MRI.
[12:18] Speaker 2: You look at Adam Schefter's Twitter and it's Micah Parsons,
[12:23] Speaker 2: coach commenting on Micah Parsons, does not look good. Sean
[12:26] Speaker 2: McVay on Devontae Adams, does not look good. Puka Nakua
[12:32] Speaker 2: walked out of that game. He ended up coming back. And,
[12:35] Speaker 2: of course, you know, what happened with Micah and– Patrick
[12:38] Speaker 2: Mahomes today.
[12:39] Speaker 1: Yeah. Devontae Adams. I was watching that play as it happened.
[12:41] Speaker 1: It looked like it's that old sniper.
[12:44] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[12:44] Speaker 1: Right. Like he just went straight down. Like this is,
[12:49] Speaker 1: can your team hold up? Right. That's just, that's just
[12:53] Speaker 1: really what this comes down to now from this point
[12:54] Speaker 1: for the rest. And if you're in a position where
[12:57] Speaker 1: you lose your best player, Now you really check some things, right?
[13:01] Speaker 1: I'm going to say this, though. I know the Cowboys,
[13:04] Speaker 1: they play the Vikings. We recorded before that game because
[13:07] Speaker 1: we don't really care that much. But I tell you,
[13:09] Speaker 1: it's a high possibility that Jerry Jones is going to
[13:11] Speaker 1: say the wrong thing. You know, so I like I
[13:16] Speaker 1: will tell you people right now, it's 823 Eastern Time
[13:20] Speaker 1: when we are recording this. So if Jerry happened to
[13:23] Speaker 1: say something like, well, you know. We were a little
[13:26] Speaker 1: bit fearful of something like that.
[13:27] Speaker 2: We will talk about it on Tuesday.
[13:29] Speaker 1: Yeah. That is why we decided to trade him. I
[13:33] Speaker 1: don't know that he's going to say that, but it's
[13:35] Speaker 1: totally in the cards that I can look like a psychic.
[13:38] Speaker 1: And he says the exact same thing that I'm talking
[13:41] Speaker 1: about right now. Jerry, don't be remembering that anybody is
[13:44] Speaker 1: out here listening to him, paying attention to the words
[13:48] Speaker 1: that he says, right? It could happen. Um, But also
[13:53] Speaker 1: there's this possibility, Ryan, let me get you back on
[13:55] Speaker 1: this because I'm curious what you think here. Chiefs been
[13:57] Speaker 1: doing this for 10 years, man. Right. Like even in
[14:00] Speaker 1: the presence of the greatest quarterback we've ever seen, maybe
[14:06] Speaker 1: this is how a run is supposed to end.
[14:09] Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, you look, obviously you make the AFC
[14:12] Speaker 2: championship game 17 years or seven years in a row,
[14:15] Speaker 2: excuse me. They've been making the playoffs every year from 2014.
[14:18] Speaker 2: Obviously some of that predates Patrick Mahomes, you know, in
[14:22] Speaker 2: the Alex Smith years, I think Kelsey was probably had
[14:26] Speaker 2: a piece in all of that. Yeah. So like you look,
[14:29] Speaker 2: I mean, the cumulative effect, they've essentially played an extra
[14:32] Speaker 2: season's worth of games over this last half decade. And
[14:35] Speaker 2: that has to have a wear and tear on everyone
[14:36] Speaker 2: on that building.
[14:37] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[14:38] Speaker 1: Like whatever it is, it's going to be the next
[14:41] Speaker 1: stretch of this run. So I think the Brady years
[14:43] Speaker 1: are the Patriots. I feel like we can break down
[14:45] Speaker 1: into three stretches. And the stretch is really, the inflection
[14:51] Speaker 1: point is Randy Moss.
[14:52] Speaker 2: Right.
[14:53] Speaker 1: Right? Like, there is, to me.
[14:54] Speaker 2: On both ends. Right, right.
[14:56] Speaker 1: It's before Moss, during Moss, after Moss. And during Moss,
[15:02] Speaker 1: to be fair, is only if, like, what is it,
[15:04] Speaker 1: a three-year stretch? Yeah. Like, 07, 08, 09, and then
[15:07] Speaker 1: 2010 is when they traded him to the Vikings.
[15:09] Speaker 5: But.
[15:10] Speaker 1: Those are the different runs. That middle one has the
[15:13] Speaker 1: 17-1 season or 16-1, however it turned out. Yeah, 18-1.
[15:18] Speaker 1: There we go. That run had the year where Brady
[15:21] Speaker 1: gets hurt, right? But then even in 09, he came back.
[15:24] Speaker 1: He was really good. That team was one thing. It
[15:28] Speaker 1: was built around another paradigm where they did not have
[15:31] Speaker 1: any great receiving threat. You had very good Troy Brown,
[15:34] Speaker 1: for example. You had Deion Branch. And then after, it
[15:36] Speaker 1: is the tight end era. It is Rob Gronkowski, the
[15:39] Speaker 1: stretch with Aaron Hernandez. It's basically when they just started
[15:41] Speaker 1: throwing the ball to the white boys.
[15:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're not even mentioning Wes Walker or
[15:45] Speaker 2: Julian Edelman. Yes, yes.
[15:46] Speaker 1: Chris Hogan, remember him? Chris Hogan, yes.
[15:49] Speaker 2: Danny Amendola.
[15:50] Speaker 1: Gunnar Olszewski.
[15:53] Speaker 3: Right?
[15:53] Speaker 1: That's just when Belichick had the Google alert, right? Just, hey, look,
[15:59] Speaker 1: there must have been a nonprofit, like a placement organization,
[16:02] Speaker 1: like the one that puts poor black kids into prep schools.
[16:05] Speaker 2: Right.
[16:05] Speaker 1: Like somebody had to be like, no, if you just
[16:07] Speaker 1: sit down and interview him, you'll see what we're talking
[16:09] Speaker 1: about and we'll make it work. But whatever the run was,
[16:13] Speaker 1: that run is done.
[16:15] Speaker 5: Right.
[16:15] Speaker 1: I guess we would call that the it's really kind
[16:17] Speaker 1: of the Travis Kelsey era, as you know, you're correct
[16:20] Speaker 1: in the Alex Smith part. Right. Like Kelsey's kind of
[16:22] Speaker 1: the bridge. But obviously we're talking about Patrick Mahomes. Right.
[16:25] Speaker 1: But if we say it's the end of Kelsey, it's
[16:27] Speaker 1: the end of Mahomes. This is going to be the split. Look,
[16:31] Speaker 1: you got tickets to sell and everything else, but you
[16:33] Speaker 1: don't put him back on the field until like you
[16:35] Speaker 1: put him back at the end of next season. So
[16:37] Speaker 1: he's not starting like when Paul George broke his leg
[16:41] Speaker 1: and they brought him back for eight games at the
[16:43] Speaker 1: end of one year because there was no reason to
[16:44] Speaker 1: come at the top of the next year with him.
[16:47] Speaker 1: Like with all that, whatever was apprehensive or whatever wasn't solid,
[16:50] Speaker 1: like go ahead and work that stuff out now. But
[16:52] Speaker 1: if this is the end of that run, that's what
[16:55] Speaker 1: five Super Bowls. three championships, a 5,000-yard passing season, three MVPs.
[17:02] Speaker 2: Yeah. With maybe the greatest tight end of all time.
[17:07] Speaker 1: With possibly the best tight end in the history of
[17:11] Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, maybe.
[17:14] Speaker 2: Oh, interesting.
[17:15] Speaker 1: Oh, no, no. Look, and this is no knock to
[17:18] Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. You could make the argument that Travis Kelsey
[17:23] Speaker 1: is the fifth best tight end in the history of
[17:26] Speaker 1: of the AFC West.
[17:29] Speaker 2: Gronk?
[17:30] Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, no. AFC West. Antonio Gates. In no
[17:35] Speaker 1: particular order.
[17:36] Speaker 2: Antonio Gates.
[17:36] Speaker 1: Antonio Gates.
[17:37] Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp.
[17:38] Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp. Kelly Winslow.
[17:40] Speaker 2: Tony Gonzalez.
[17:41] Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez. Dave Casper is also in the Hall of Fame,
[17:44] Speaker 1: for whatever it's worth. I don't have the same frame
[17:46] Speaker 1: of reference on him. That's just to say that is
[17:49] Speaker 1: the division of great tight ends.
[17:50] Speaker 2: Yes.
[17:51] Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
[17:51] Speaker 5: Is there.
[17:53] Speaker 1: Antonio Gates... had a hundred something touchdown catches.
[17:57] Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, his stats look unreal. And I mean,
[18:01] Speaker 2: and I mean, obviously like people like Shannon was unbelievable.
[18:04] Speaker 2: Winslow was unbelievable. Like those are, or you said it's
[18:07] Speaker 2: a conference of great tight ends.
[18:08] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[18:09] Speaker 1: But this is the thing I'd say about Gates. That's
[18:11] Speaker 1: a bit different relative to all of them is that
[18:13] Speaker 1: Gates was a number like Shannon sharp was a threat
[18:17] Speaker 1: as a tight end. Antonio Gates, I feel like for
[18:21] Speaker 1: the entirety of his run was basically the number one receiver.
[18:24] Speaker 3: Right.
[18:25] Speaker 1: I don't recall a Tyreek Hill on the Antonio Gates watch.
[18:32] Speaker 1: He was that guy, right? Let's say 100-something touchdown catch.
[18:37] Speaker 1: We talked about Phillip Rivers. The idea that Phillip Rivers
[18:40] Speaker 1: is going to the Hall of Fame, if he does,
[18:41] Speaker 1: Antonio Gates is a significant reason why that could happen.
[18:46] Speaker 1: But no, this would be an unreal run that they
[18:50] Speaker 1: have had, right? Like, just nuts. It is kind of
[18:55] Speaker 1: whack that it would end with a Patrick Mahomes ACL tear,
[18:58] Speaker 1: but I don't think he's done.
[19:00] Speaker 2: No. Quickly, there are always seven receivers with more touchdowns
[19:05] Speaker 2: than Antonio Gates.
[19:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I think people miss a.
[19:10] Speaker 2: And one of them we're not allowed to name on
[19:11] Speaker 2: the show. Oh, yeah, yeah.
[19:14] Speaker 1: No, no, no. It's not like... Like, look, just to
[19:16] Speaker 1: be clear on tight ends, to me, there's two lists.
[19:19] Speaker 1: There's the list that has Gronk on it.
[19:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't said the word Gronk yet.
[19:24] Speaker 1: And then the one for the rest of you.
[19:26] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[19:27] Speaker 1: Like, Travis Kelsey is a better tight end to Rob Gronkowski. No, man. Like,
[19:34] Speaker 1: don't let my buddy Nick get y'all out here lying
[19:36] Speaker 1: to y'all selves. And if it's not Nick that's got
[19:38] Speaker 1: you saying that, stop smoking crack. Ryan, I want you
[19:47] Speaker 1: to jump on here with me because you can... vouch
[19:50] Speaker 1: for the truth in this. I was telling you about this.
[19:52] Speaker 1: So we have recorded all of our episodes for the
[19:56] Speaker 1: week by Wednesday, right? We had some travel situations to
[19:59] Speaker 1: deal with and stuff like that, so we got everything
[20:01] Speaker 1: recorded early. Thank you guys also for checking out the
[20:04] Speaker 1: interview with Alex Stapleton, director of the Diddy Doc, right?
[20:07] Speaker 1: We appreciate y'all on that. So anyway... Gerard Moore. Was
[20:11] Speaker 1: it Wednesday night? Wednesday?
[20:14] Speaker 2: It was Wednesday. Yeah, Wednesday evening.
[20:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, Wednesday at the 4 o'clock hour. We have time stamps.
[20:19] Speaker 1: It was Wednesday at the 4 o'clock hour that word
[20:21] Speaker 1: got out that he had been fired. And I immediately
[20:26] Speaker 1: started hearing some wild stuff, right? People immediately. And when
[20:31] Speaker 1: I say I was hearing, I'm not saying it's like
[20:33] Speaker 1: I'm some kind of journalist, but it was enough. that
[20:36] Speaker 1: it was like, oh, wow, there's stuff going on here, right?
[20:40] Speaker 1: So I was getting a call from all the networks
[20:43] Speaker 1: all day long to CNN on Thursdays like, yo, can
[20:45] Speaker 1: you come on and talk about this Michigan coach? And
[20:47] Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, man, I don't really got that much
[20:50] Speaker 1: to talk about, but I'm going to be honest with you.
[20:52] Speaker 1: I'm hearing that a lot might come down the pipe,
[20:54] Speaker 1: so I'm going to pass on this. And they're like, well,
[20:57] Speaker 1: here's our reporting. I'm like, yeah, I don't think– I'm
[21:00] Speaker 1: going to just not talk about none of this.
[21:03] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[21:04] Speaker 1: It's five days since I said that. And I personally
[21:08] Speaker 1: feel like now it's finally appropriate to talk about this. Like,
[21:13] Speaker 1: I'm so glad that there was nothing that was offering
[21:16] Speaker 1: me any pressure to talk about this before because we
[21:19] Speaker 1: needed stuff to happen. And the thing that I didn't
[21:22] Speaker 1: expect to happen was that he was going to be
[21:25] Speaker 1: arraigned in the white jumpsuit in a rubber room.
[21:29] Speaker 3: Right.
[21:29] Speaker 2: I mean, he took his arraignments. On Zoom.
[21:32] Speaker 1: On Zoom.
[21:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, like it was 2020.
[21:37] Speaker 1: It's over, right? Like, after this is done, we will
[21:43] Speaker 1: never see his face again. Think about this. He doesn't
[21:50] Speaker 1: turn 40 until February, okay? He got a dream job,
[21:56] Speaker 1: and his entire career is over. before he turned 40
[22:03] Speaker 1: years old, right? Now, Ryan, I feel this is a
[22:08] Speaker 1: time where it's glad, you know, I got you here
[22:10] Speaker 1: with me and that we are of somewhat different cultural backgrounds, right?
[22:13] Speaker 2: Right.
[22:14] Speaker 1: Because we can just acknowledge that for all parties involved here,
[22:18] Speaker 1: the story is made more salacious by the fact that
[22:22] Speaker 1: he risked it all behind some young white woman that
[22:24] Speaker 1: worked in the office.
[22:26] Speaker 2: His assistant. Yeah. Yes.
[22:28] Speaker 1: This is still, uh, a hot button issue in America, right?
[22:36] Speaker 1: It don't get people killed necessarily, but it still hits people, right?
[22:43] Speaker 1: And that is squarely where we are in this. I
[22:48] Speaker 1: don't know how it's going for the white delegation, but
[22:51] Speaker 1: I can tell you for much of the black delegation,
[22:54] Speaker 1: the fact that this gentleman is lost it all behind
[22:57] Speaker 1: that particular white woman in that particular station in life
[23:00] Speaker 1: is not going over well with the people. I do
[23:05] Speaker 1: not know what he will have to do to get
[23:08] Speaker 1: sympathy from the folks. But as of right now, he's.
[23:11] Speaker 2: Got a long way to go.
[23:12] Speaker 1: He's got a, he's got a, he's got a long,
[23:13] Speaker 1: he's got a really, really, really long way to go
[23:16] Speaker 1: to get the sympathy. I, um, I'm not going to
[23:21] Speaker 1: tell that very good joke that I have in mind
[23:24] Speaker 1: because I just don't need the misinterpretation and the aggregation.
[23:27] Speaker 1: But yes, he has a long way to go to
[23:29] Speaker 1: get back because he lost it all behind this. And
[23:34] Speaker 1: that was before we started hearing that he's that guy.
[23:41] Speaker 1: What guy? That guy, right? The guy that get caught slipping,
[23:47] Speaker 1: living in a college town, sleeping with the woman that
[23:49] Speaker 1: works in the office. Like, that's not a really uncommon story.
[23:54] Speaker 1: It's a bad idea and it's wrong. But there are
[23:57] Speaker 1: also a lot of romances that start with similar sorts
[24:00] Speaker 1: of stories, right? Like, I don't think people are that
[24:05] Speaker 1: terribly offended by the idea that he had a relationship
[24:09] Speaker 1: with somebody in the office. But with the understanding that
[24:12] Speaker 1: if you get caught, You know, you got to deal
[24:15] Speaker 1: with whatever comes.
[24:17] Speaker 2: It's an industry that leads itself to that situation.
[24:19] Speaker 1: Yes, it is. Yes, it is. For a number of reasons,
[24:22] Speaker 1: for what it's worth, right? However, when the people find
[24:27] Speaker 1: out that apparently you be hitting them up on the
[24:29] Speaker 1: OnlyFans and you were exchanging messages with the woman off
[24:33] Speaker 1: the OnlyFans during the national championship game, per her telling,
[24:37] Speaker 1: per her telling, just throwing that out there, and.
[24:43] Speaker 1: Clearly this man has a problem. Right? He has a
[24:47] Speaker 1: problem and then he went and bust up in this
[24:50] Speaker 1: woman's house, allegedly, with a knife, allegedly, threatening to do
[24:55] Speaker 1: harm to himself, allegedly. Meaning that there's a great chance
[25:00] Speaker 1: that he's going to jail behind this. Like, not forever jail,
[25:05] Speaker 1: but I don't... It seems totally in the cards that
[25:09] Speaker 1: he could wind up going to jail for this. I've
[25:11] Speaker 1: never seen any I can't name anything like this. I
[25:16] Speaker 1: have nothing comparable that comes to my mind in terms
[25:21] Speaker 1: of what a... Every term seems corny, like fall from grace,
[25:26] Speaker 1: whatever it is. All of these things just seem absurd
[25:31] Speaker 1: to bring up. However, if it makes them feel any better,
[25:38] Speaker 1: you're not going to go down alone because... If any
[25:43] Speaker 1: of you have ever dreamed of being the athletic director
[25:45] Speaker 1: at the University of Michigan, I think you'll have a
[25:48] Speaker 1: chance to put in an application, right? And I believe
[25:52] Speaker 1: that you'll have this chance to put in an application
[25:54] Speaker 1: because apparently a man that they knew might not have
[25:57] Speaker 1: been all the way straight, they fired him for cause
[26:00] Speaker 1: and only the athletic director was there with him. Now,
[26:04] Speaker 1: I'm going to give Ward Manuel the benefit of the
[26:05] Speaker 1: doubt here. What if... He felt like he knew this
[26:10] Speaker 1: person and that he was afraid that things could get
[26:13] Speaker 1: worse if there was a lot of people around. And
[26:16] Speaker 1: he thought that that was the best way to manage
[26:17] Speaker 1: the situation. I'm going to just tell you like this.
[26:22] Speaker 1: I done seen people walked out of the office after
[26:26] Speaker 1: getting fired for under far less combustible circumstances than these. Okay.
[26:32] Speaker 1: I've seen people make the argument that they should have
[26:35] Speaker 1: had mental health professionals there when he got fired. I'm
[26:38] Speaker 1: going to be honest with you. My imagination is not
[26:40] Speaker 1: that good. I never would have thought about that. Right.
[26:43] Speaker 1: Like I just I mean, it makes sense. I'm not
[26:45] Speaker 1: saying I'm not saying I don't hear you. I'm saying
[26:47] Speaker 1: that I personally never would have thought about that. But
[26:50] Speaker 1: some big motherfucker to wrap him up. You know what
[26:52] Speaker 1: I'm saying? If things get a little wild, somebody like,
[26:54] Speaker 1: you know, because Sherrod Moore ain't small. He played offensive line.
[26:57] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? They got to be somebody
[26:59] Speaker 1: with a strength coach at ain't no way in the world.
[27:01] Speaker 1: I would have done that by myself. No, sir. Could
[27:05] Speaker 1: not have been. Anyway, Ward Manuel chose to do that.
[27:08] Speaker 1: And then that man ran out of there, ran up
[27:09] Speaker 1: in that little white girl's house with a knife. You're
[27:12] Speaker 1: not you're not keeping your job after this. I just
[27:18] Speaker 1: want to know this. Ryan, what was that? The Wall
[27:22] Speaker 1: Street Journal? Were you sending that link with the article?
[27:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, the 24 hours.
[27:26] Speaker 1: Yeah. And I just want you to hear with me,
[27:28] Speaker 1: because I don't think I'm going to get this wrong,
[27:30] Speaker 1: but just to make sure I say to get this right,
[27:32] Speaker 1: this is a very important detail. They had done in previous...
[27:35] Speaker 1: This is not the only investigation, by the way, that
[27:37] Speaker 1: they have done of Jerome Moore and his dealings with
[27:42] Speaker 1: women in the office, on campus, or whatever it is.
[27:45] Speaker 3: But....
[27:47] Speaker 1: They had done an investigation about his relationship with this
[27:49] Speaker 1: particular woman. And they had been in a relationship from
[27:52] Speaker 1: 2022 to 2024. And they didn't find any evidence. And
[27:59] Speaker 1: the biggest reason they didn't have evidence is because she
[28:01] Speaker 1: said no and he said no. And I don't know
[28:04] Speaker 1: exactly what powers they have. They can ask people to
[28:07] Speaker 1: turn over phones. I'm sure the company issued phones they
[28:10] Speaker 1: can or whatever. But I don't know exactly what they
[28:12] Speaker 1: could do. But they said their investigation said that there
[28:15] Speaker 1: was nothing to it. And then, out the blue this week,
[28:21] Speaker 1: this woman calls up and decides to confess her sins.
[28:25] Speaker 1: That's what the article in the Wall Street Journal said, right?
[28:29] Speaker 1: Am I expected to believe that she just decided to
[28:33] Speaker 1: do this out of nowhere? I'm not saying that it
[28:36] Speaker 1: changes anything about the outcome, right? Or what there is
[28:40] Speaker 1: to say about more. What I am saying is, I
[28:44] Speaker 1: would like to know why that decision was made. Because
[28:51] Speaker 1: what's that line, Ryan? Just because you paranoid don't mean
[28:54] Speaker 1: they ain't out to get you. Because they got, he
[29:00] Speaker 1: is got.
[29:01] Speaker 2: Right.
[29:03] Speaker 1: He is as got as got has ever been. That
[29:08] Speaker 1: just seems to be an incredible turn of events. Like
[29:10] Speaker 1: who knows what it is that happened. In the 911 call,
[29:14] Speaker 1: the woman said that Moore had been stalking her right
[29:18] Speaker 1: that is what what she said in the call um
[29:23] Speaker 1: maybe that if that's the case right maybe that led
[29:26] Speaker 1: to her calling and saying hey do this thing that'll
[29:30] Speaker 1: fire that dude I don't I don't know I don't
[29:32] Speaker 1: understand this but the fact that this just happened out
[29:34] Speaker 1: of nowhere something tells me we're going to find out
[29:38] Speaker 1: a lot did you see they're going to do an
[29:39] Speaker 1: investigation on of the whole... Yeah, everyone's getting.
[29:42] Speaker 2: It's going to be... I think it's going to be
[29:44] Speaker 2: more than just the AD.
[29:46] Speaker 1: I think it'll be more than just the AD, but
[29:49] Speaker 1: how thorough an investigation do you really think that this
[29:53] Speaker 1: is going to be?
[29:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean... Let's put it this way. They've been
[29:58] Speaker 2: doing a lot of investigations in that building recently. Yeah.
[30:00] Speaker 1: So this is one thing, though, I think about with Michigan, though.
[30:02] Speaker 1: And I'm curious your thoughts on this. So I've seen
[30:07] Speaker 1: the this is a, like, deeply corrupt program sort of arguments.
[30:14] Speaker 1: And I get that. But, right? I feel like these
[30:20] Speaker 1: things don't have that much to do with one another.
[30:23] Speaker 2: Right.
[30:24] Speaker 1: So one thing that was interesting with Connor Stallion, the
[30:27] Speaker 1: reason that Moore got suspended behind that is that he
[30:29] Speaker 1: deleted text messages before he turned his phone over, but
[30:32] Speaker 1: then he came off of those text messages and there
[30:35] Speaker 1: was nothing incriminating in them.
[30:38] Speaker 3: Right.
[30:38] Speaker 1: They had that weird thing with the dude that was
[30:40] Speaker 1: stealing signs, and I'm sorry, it was wrong, but it's
[30:43] Speaker 1: so funny that I can't find myself getting to that place.
[30:47] Speaker 1: This right here, I don't know how exactly this ties
[30:51] Speaker 1: in with the idea of a corrupt program right like
[30:54] Speaker 1: this is weird things happen in offices like i don't
[30:58] Speaker 1: yes so i guess this is what i don't know
[31:01] Speaker 1: how many offices have a circumstance like this and what
[31:05] Speaker 1: is the likelihood under those circumstances that somebody tells or
[31:08] Speaker 1: that something is actually done somebody in a boss-like capacity
[31:12] Speaker 1: is having a relationship with a subordinate i feel like
[31:16] Speaker 1: it's more likely that people let that slide than it
[31:20] Speaker 1: is that people enforce it. That's not to say that
[31:21] Speaker 1: they shouldn't.
[31:22] Speaker 2: But that's what, yes.
[31:25] Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't find that to be an example
[31:27] Speaker 1: of a uniquely corrupt culture. within your within the athletic department.
[31:33] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, I'm not sure that
[31:35] Speaker 1: that's the argument to make here, but that's what it's
[31:38] Speaker 1: going to be.
[31:39] Speaker 2: Right.
[31:40] Speaker 1: That's what they're going to have to overcome. And maybe
[31:43] Speaker 1: Michigan is trying to do a truth and reconciliation before
[31:46] Speaker 1: the public. And they're going to go through all this
[31:48] Speaker 1: shit and they're going to tell everybody everything that was wrong.
[31:53] Speaker 1: But I didn't think that they were stupid. Right. Call
[32:00] Speaker 1: me cynical, but that doesn't seem like the smartest thing
[32:02] Speaker 1: to like, these are not people of great honor. Okay.
[32:05] Speaker 1: So I don't know what investigation is going to be.
[32:07] Speaker 1: I don't know what they're actually going to do. You
[32:09] Speaker 1: remember when the dolphins had the bullying situation and they
[32:11] Speaker 1: put together the blue ribbon committee and that committee still
[32:14] Speaker 1: ain't never had no meeting.
[32:15] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[32:16] Speaker 1: Like not one. Like, but they can't just win the
[32:19] Speaker 1: press conference here. Like that's not going to work. I
[32:21] Speaker 1: do think that now that they've said it, they're going
[32:23] Speaker 1: to have to come up with something. But consultants generally
[32:28] Speaker 1: are people you pay to tell you to do what
[32:30] Speaker 1: you already wanted to do. This, no matter who the
[32:35] Speaker 1: investigation is, this is an example of the consulting business.
[32:38] Speaker 1: That's what they are going to have. They're going to
[32:41] Speaker 1: run through this and they're going to come back and
[32:44] Speaker 1: be like, you know what? It's actually not as bad
[32:45] Speaker 1: as we thought. It's crazy, right? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[32:48] Speaker 1: You know, but we wanted to go back here and
[32:50] Speaker 1: make sure everything was okay. Yeah, yeah. We're going to
[32:53] Speaker 1: be fine.
[32:54] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[32:55] Speaker 1: Like, It's actually funny, Ryan. As we talked about this more,
[32:59] Speaker 1: I had in my head envisioned, because I don't do
[33:03] Speaker 1: it like I did it when I was a youngster
[33:05] Speaker 1: in this business, but I like a little dark humor.
[33:09] Speaker 1: I feel like I have a fairly sophisticated understanding of
[33:12] Speaker 1: the edge and where you can stand and talk on
[33:15] Speaker 1: these things. I will say that this case has tested
[33:23] Speaker 1: at many points. My question of Is this funny? Not
[33:30] Speaker 1: so much the macro. The big, is this funny? Because
[33:33] Speaker 1: that actually is not. But there's little funnies along, little
[33:38] Speaker 1: potential funnies, I think, that I had seen along the way.
[33:41] Speaker 1: And in my edgy brain, I was like, yeah, I'm
[33:43] Speaker 1: going to get in here. Maybe we going. No, I
[33:45] Speaker 1: started feeling less and less funny. The more I thought
[33:48] Speaker 1: about him sitting there in that rubber room.
[33:51] Speaker 3: Yeah. Right?
[33:52] Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this isn't. This, no, no, no.
[33:54] Speaker 1: This isn't.
[33:55] Speaker 5: No.
[33:56] Speaker 1: No, it's not.
[33:57] Speaker 2: Like, this is.
[33:59] Speaker 1: Can you imagine if this were a story about a
[34:01] Speaker 1: coach that we were more familiar with?
[34:03] Speaker 2: No. This was A1A1 from Wednesday, like, really until that
[34:11] Speaker 2: home story is ACL.
[34:12] Speaker 1: Yeah, but imagine if this was, and I'm just throwing
[34:16] Speaker 1: a name out, right? Imagine if this was Jimbo Fisher.
[34:20] Speaker 3: Right?
[34:20] Speaker 1: Like, I'm not even talking about Nick Saban, right? I'm
[34:22] Speaker 1: not even talking about, like, Dabo or, like, a super
[34:25] Speaker 1: famous coach or Kirby Smart. Just somebody that, oh, I
[34:29] Speaker 1: remember him, right?
[34:30] Speaker 2: Right.
[34:31] Speaker 1: Imagine it's Jimbo Fisher that did this.
[34:36] Speaker 3: What?
[34:38] Speaker 1: Like, we don't even know who this guy is, and
[34:41] Speaker 1: he has America captivated.
[34:43] Speaker 2: Right.
[34:44] Speaker 5: Right?
[34:45] Speaker 1: Like, actually, who is the coach that you would be
[34:49] Speaker 1: the most shocked?
[34:52] Speaker 2: Kirby's up there. Kirby's up there. Did you see the
[34:58] Speaker 2: Nick Saban quote going around?
[35:00] Speaker 1: I did not. What was it?
[35:02] Speaker 2: Let me pull this up. I want to make sure
[35:03] Speaker 2: I get this right. It's about, you know, Nick Saban's.
[35:08] Speaker 1: Oh, from the book?
[35:09] Speaker 2: From the book.
[35:10] Speaker 1: Oh, I do know that quote. If you can send
[35:14] Speaker 1: the screen cap to me, I will read it word
[35:17] Speaker 1: for word because this story has been denied. And, um,
[35:22] Speaker 1: so what?
[35:24] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[35:24] Speaker 2: So what? It's funny.
[35:25] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[35:25] Speaker 1: We, we like it better. And he's basically, he's in
[35:28] Speaker 1: the locker room with the dudes at LSU. And honestly, man,
[35:31] Speaker 1: this is the kind of story that like this, this like,
[35:34] Speaker 1: maybe this is a man that you let raise your son,
[35:36] Speaker 1: you know, help your son become a man. Like he,
[35:38] Speaker 1: he hitting them with some true gang.
[35:40] Speaker 2: Right.
[35:40] Speaker 1: And he was talking about dealing with women and, you know,
[35:43] Speaker 1: these young boys in college. And I do remember that
[35:46] Speaker 1: before this excerpt, there's something where he's like, he's, He's
[35:49] Speaker 1: using like the P word in his discussion of like
[35:52] Speaker 1: talking about dealing with women. He's just, you know, he
[35:56] Speaker 1: hitting them with some true game. And he says here
[35:58] Speaker 1: that ultimately you never want to sleep with anybody who
[36:01] Speaker 1: has less to lose than you do. So ultimately, if
[36:05] Speaker 1: I'm ever going to sleep around on Miss Terry, it's
[36:08] Speaker 1: going to be with Hillary fucking Rodham Clinton.
[36:13] Speaker 2: Now that's funny.
[36:15] Speaker 1: That's hilarious. That's, that's, That's because somebody put together an
[36:19] Speaker 1: AI video of Nick Saban telling that to Sherrod... Sherone Moore. Sorry, sorry.
[36:26] Speaker 1: I was about to call him Senator Moore. It's the
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[37:34] Speaker 2: All right, Bo, let's get to some more stories from
[37:42] Speaker 2: the weekend. Phillip Rivers actually played. They almost beat the Seahawks.
[37:47] Speaker 2: He was 8 for 27, 120 yards, touchdown, and an interception.
[37:52] Speaker 2: But what was your biggest takeaway from seeing the 44-year-old
[37:56] Speaker 2: returning to the NFL?
[37:56] Speaker 1: All right, man. As long as he didn't die. All right?
[38:01] Speaker 1: But I watched a couple drives, and he is a
[38:04] Speaker 1: Larry Holmes all-star, man. Like, he's looking flabby as sick.
[38:09] Speaker 1: So the thing about, I feel like the guy that
[38:11] Speaker 1: comes back at this age is typically either going to be, like,
[38:16] Speaker 1: in your mind. Or like when you do the movie.
[38:19] Speaker 1: Like a Kenny Stabler type that you imagine who's just
[38:22] Speaker 1: been smoking cigarettes and drinking Miller High Life, right? And
[38:26] Speaker 1: then they call him and he's like, all right, you know,
[38:27] Speaker 1: I'll come out here and play a game like smoking
[38:29] Speaker 1: a cigarette on the sideline. Or something like Jack LaLanne type. Right.
[38:33] Speaker 1: That's just like, you know, an incredible shape. It always
[38:36] Speaker 1: ready for it. Dead ass in the middle is Phillip Rivers.
[38:39] Speaker 1: It looked like he ain't never done a push up
[38:41] Speaker 1: in his life. Right. Like I work out for playing
[38:43] Speaker 1: football by playing football. He always had that funny shot
[38:46] Speaker 1: put motion and everything else. But he was always a
[38:49] Speaker 1: highly entertaining watch. Right. He talked cash shit out there
[38:54] Speaker 1: to people, and he got it done, man. You know,
[38:57] Speaker 1: only invariably for the Chargers to blow a late lead,
[39:01] Speaker 1: and all his efforts were for naught. And what do
[39:04] Speaker 1: you know? All he did today was a far less
[39:07] Speaker 1: entertaining version of that right there, because it was not
[39:12] Speaker 1: a fun watch. It wasn't a sad watch. It was
[39:16] Speaker 1: really insulting to Riley Leonard. I think that's the best
[39:20] Speaker 1: way that I could put it. It was just kind
[39:22] Speaker 1: of confusing why he was even out there. That's probably
[39:26] Speaker 1: the best way that I could put it. It was
[39:28] Speaker 1: just confusing. But he had this... ahead at the end,
[39:31] Speaker 1: only for them to give up a field goal and
[39:34] Speaker 1: to lose the game.
[39:36] Speaker 3: It is.
[39:38] Speaker 1: Are we at the point where we ask some questions
[39:40] Speaker 1: about the Seahawks? Cause this game should not have been
[39:42] Speaker 1: this close.
[39:44] Speaker 3: It is.
[39:45] Speaker 2: I cannot i could not take my eyes off of
[39:48] Speaker 2: it i i with all due respect i just disagree
[39:52] Speaker 2: i thought really it was strangely compelling i understand like
[39:59] Speaker 2: if the idea of like secondhand embarrassment like not being
[40:02] Speaker 2: able to watch but it looked like a mix of
[40:05] Speaker 2: like like someone like, you know, like a backyard football game, right?
[40:10] Speaker 2: Telling stories about how they were all 20 years.
[40:14] Speaker 7: I just couldn't get anything out of it. Cause the
[40:16] Speaker 7: balls was taking so long to get there. He was
[40:18] Speaker 7: throwing the lollipops over there, Jack. Like it was just,
[40:21] Speaker 7: and they weren't like snatching them and running them back. Like,
[40:24] Speaker 7: I think that was the thing is like, if he
[40:26] Speaker 7: was going to be bad, I needed to be all
[40:27] Speaker 7: the way bad.
[40:28] Speaker 1: Like he needed to be on some Peter man. He
[40:31] Speaker 1: ain't give us none of that. It was just kind of,
[40:33] Speaker 1: it was nondescript. rip it was he might be back
[40:37] Speaker 1: out there he got that's what i'm saying riley letter
[40:41] Speaker 1: nope don't want to make that joke riley but riley
[40:43] Speaker 1: letter should be very upset if they were to to
[40:47] Speaker 1: to do that um i just i was surprised to
[40:52] Speaker 1: see people my age who were saying how they were
[40:56] Speaker 1: like root I guess I don't view myself the same
[40:59] Speaker 1: way that these other middle-aged people view themselves. Right.
[41:02] Speaker 4: Like, Oh, I did not find it inspirational. I found
[41:06] Speaker 4: it very, very funny. I did not find this inspiring
[41:08] Speaker 4: at all. I was not rooting for him. I thought
[41:11] Speaker 4: this is stupid.
[41:13] Speaker 2: And I'm just, I.
[41:14] Speaker 1: Was, I turned in to Adrian from the Rocky movies.
[41:18] Speaker 1: Like you can't win.
[41:19] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[41:20] Speaker 1: I'm just hoping he doesn't get turned to dust.
[41:23] Speaker 2: Oh man. That's great. All right. Uh, In not-so-great football news,
[41:27] Speaker 2: the Rams beat America's team 41-34 in a shootout we
[41:30] Speaker 2: mentioned earlier. Devontae Adams went down with a hamstring injury.
[41:33] Speaker 2: Puka Dekua left with an injury. Bo, your thoughts watching
[41:38] Speaker 2: this game?
[41:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, man. Dropping like flies. Like, I actually, it was
[41:41] Speaker 1: a game that reminded me why I chose this as
[41:44] Speaker 1: the team to rule for. Even with them not winning.
[41:46] Speaker 1: They go, man. Like, they're down so many dudes already
[41:50] Speaker 1: going into this game, right? Down both safeties. I think
[41:52] Speaker 1: this is the most recent development. And that was just
[41:55] Speaker 1: a at least for the first three quarters. It wasn't
[41:57] Speaker 1: as great at the end. This was an incredible game
[42:00] Speaker 1: to watch. It was highly entertaining. Jared Goff played really,
[42:04] Speaker 1: really well. But, you know, looks like the Lions are
[42:09] Speaker 1: not going to make playoffs this year. And you know what?
[42:14] Speaker 1: Like I said, it's cool. Me and Nick, I'm going
[42:16] Speaker 1: to go to his house during the playoffs and we're
[42:18] Speaker 1: just going to be over there hating. we're just gonna
[42:21] Speaker 1: be hating for a muff that's all we're gonna be
[42:24] Speaker 1: doing right but hey man it's dropping like fly season
[42:27] Speaker 1: like i mean you just look around everywhere you go
[42:30] Speaker 1: man everybody's dropping like flies there's gonna be a lot
[42:33] Speaker 1: of this is just who can hang who can persevere
[42:37] Speaker 1: but that's where we are.
[42:39] Speaker 2: All right uh going to college football now kalen the
[42:42] Speaker 2: boar says he is not leaving alabama he said in
[42:44] Speaker 2: the statement uh We have an incredible opportunity in front
[42:47] Speaker 2: of us, so my sole focus is on Alabama football
[42:49] Speaker 2: and our preparations to play Oklahoma. I have not spoken,
[42:53] Speaker 2: have no interest in speaking with anyone else about any
[42:57] Speaker 2: other job. I'm fully committed to this program and look
[42:59] Speaker 2: forward to continuing as the head coach of the University
[43:02] Speaker 2: of Alabama. Beau, were you surprised?
[43:04] Speaker 1: I thought that that was a very strong, strident, while
[43:10] Speaker 1: simultaneously challenging, Legally non-binding statement.
[43:14] Speaker 2: Sounds like he's negotiating for an extension.
[43:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Those reports are coming out about it. I
[43:21] Speaker 1: just want to see how he feels after this game
[43:24] Speaker 1: against Oklahoma.
[43:25] Speaker 2: Same.
[43:25] Speaker 5: Right?
[43:26] Speaker 1: Which could go either way. It's going to be blazing
[43:29] Speaker 1: hot for you if you don't. Now, I will say
[43:31] Speaker 1: this also. Something that I think is interesting about the
[43:34] Speaker 1: playoff that isn't quite discussed. Because I've seen people make
[43:36] Speaker 1: the argument. Because Alabama lost four games last year, I
[43:39] Speaker 1: want to say, and they have lost three games so
[43:41] Speaker 1: far this year. That means in all likelihood they're going
[43:43] Speaker 1: to lose four games this year.
[43:45] Speaker 2: Almost certainly, yes.
[43:48] Speaker 1: One thing this playoff does is add to the number
[43:51] Speaker 1: of good teams assured to end their season with a loss.
[43:58] Speaker 1: And nothing makes your season feel worse than ending it
[44:03] Speaker 1: with a loss.
[44:04] Speaker 5: Right?
[44:05] Speaker 1: That's a thing. And that's kind of what's happening here.
[44:08] Speaker 1: Like if they were just going to the Capital One
[44:10] Speaker 1: Bowl and got to score up against Wisconsin. Well, not
[44:13] Speaker 1: Wisconsin this year, but, you know, somebody like that and
[44:16] Speaker 1: come out of there with a dub. I think this
[44:18] Speaker 1: might have gone over a little different. He better win
[44:20] Speaker 1: this game against Oklahoma, basically, is the thing that I'm
[44:22] Speaker 1: saying right now.
[44:23] Speaker 3: Right.
[44:23] Speaker 1: Again, the monster has not been revved back up. But
[44:27] Speaker 1: we looked at that contract, right? It's like 70 something
[44:29] Speaker 1: million dollars to buy him out. It's like three if
[44:31] Speaker 1: he leaves.
[44:33] Speaker 2: So it's something impossible.
[44:34] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[44:35] Speaker 1: Like if he leaves on his own, it's something like
[44:37] Speaker 1: $ 4 million. Like I, and I respect Alabama on that front. Like,
[44:41] Speaker 1: like we ain't going to keep you here except here.
[44:43] Speaker 1: They are apparently negotiating this extension. Cause they know that job. They,
[44:48] Speaker 1: they know they got a crazy job. And if I'm DeBoer,
[44:52] Speaker 1: I guess the problem right now at Michigan is that
[44:54] Speaker 1: they in the midst of chaos, but I would definitely
[44:56] Speaker 1: listen to what they had to say.
[45:00] Speaker 2: Absolutely. All right. And moving to the NBA, uh, semifinals
[45:03] Speaker 2: of the NBA Cup. The Spurs upset the Oklahoma City Thunder.
[45:07] Speaker 2: Wimbyama made his return to action. He had some words
[45:11] Speaker 2: for SGA after the game. Let's take a listen. I'm
[45:14] Speaker 2: just glad to be part of something that's growing to
[45:18] Speaker 2: be so beautiful and so pure and ethical basketball, you know?
[45:28] Speaker 1: Okay. Did you watch this game?
[45:30] Speaker 2: I saw clips. I did not see the game.
[45:32] Speaker 1: Okay, me and my brother watched this game. Victor Wimbanyama
[45:36] Speaker 1: played seven minutes in the first half. His plus minus
[45:41] Speaker 1: was plus 20. It was unreal watching the one-man impact
[45:49] Speaker 1: that he had on this game.
[45:50] Speaker 2: Against the overwhelmingly best team in the NBA.
[45:53] Speaker 1: Overwhelmingly best team in the NBA. He hates them.
[45:58] Speaker 2: Okay. He hates them and he hates Chet.
[46:00] Speaker 1: He hates Chet, number one, right? Like Chet's missing free throws.
[46:03] Speaker 1: He's clapping at the, you know, he hates them. But
[46:07] Speaker 1: that clip right there about ethical basketball, that's him talking
[46:10] Speaker 1: about the Thunder and how the Thunder be cheating, right?
[46:13] Speaker 1: Now the Thunder have a very interesting approach when playing
[46:15] Speaker 1: against him, which is he's seven feet five and they
[46:17] Speaker 1: just try to take his rock every time he dribbles.
[46:20] Speaker 2: Right.
[46:20] Speaker 1: As soon as he dribbles, Caruso's going for it. I
[46:23] Speaker 1: would not be surprised to find out that the Thunder
[46:25] Speaker 1: practice the peanut punch in practice because they just they're
[46:28] Speaker 1: just going for the ball. They go for the ball
[46:30] Speaker 1: like you do when you're too young to be playing
[46:33] Speaker 1: basketball against the age level of people that's out there.
[46:35] Speaker 1: And that's the only hope you have is to try
[46:36] Speaker 1: to take the ball like that's what they're doing. But
[46:40] Speaker 1: he doesn't like them. And it's so great because with him,
[46:47] Speaker 1: maybe they could challenge the Thunder. The Thunder, I think,
[46:50] Speaker 1: are going to win 70 games this year. There's a
[46:52] Speaker 1: good chance they could break the wins record. There are
[46:55] Speaker 1: teams that could challenge them. Denver, I think, can give
[46:57] Speaker 1: them a challenge. We're going to see what Houston ultimately is.
[47:00] Speaker 1: But this one right here is the rivalry, right? And
[47:03] Speaker 1: what they did, and I'd say this also about Knicks magic,
[47:05] Speaker 1: but it's very important, that NBA Cup felt like something.
[47:09] Speaker 1: Like in watching that game, it felt like a big game.
[47:13] Speaker 1: I don't know if that's tied to the event or
[47:16] Speaker 1: is simply tied to the way that these teams feel
[47:18] Speaker 1: about each other. But these teams feel a way about
[47:21] Speaker 1: each other. And it starts with the fact, I was
[47:23] Speaker 1: talking to my man Jason about this. He made a
[47:25] Speaker 1: great point. He was like, can you imagine how unserious
[47:29] Speaker 1: Victor believes that Chet is?
[47:31] Speaker 2: I can only imagine.
[47:33] Speaker 1: Right? Like, Chet out here on his B-rad. Victor goes
[47:39] Speaker 1: to hang out with the Shaolin monks. And y'all tried
[47:43] Speaker 1: to say he was better than me? Oh, my goodness.
[47:47] Speaker 1: It's going to be like just for a long time
[47:49] Speaker 1: with these teams. I love it.
[47:57] Speaker 2: All right, Bo. Voicemails. A lot of good ones. Here's
[48:00] Speaker 2: our first.
[48:01] Speaker 3: Hey, Bo.
[48:02] Speaker 6: This is Tony from Las Vegas.
[48:04] Speaker 2: Long time listener.
[48:05] Speaker 6: First time caller.
[48:06] Speaker 3: I know what you do.
[48:06] Speaker 6: So I've been listening to you guys long enough to
[48:10] Speaker 6: know the original story of Lawrence Fishburne.
[48:12] Speaker 3: So.
[48:13] Speaker 6: leads me to a question because it kind of reminds
[48:15] Speaker 6: me of your disdain you have for Lane Kiffin. So
[48:18] Speaker 6: the question I have is, who do you like, who
[48:21] Speaker 6: do you dislike more? Lawrence Fishburne, Lane Kiffin, Stringer Bell,
[48:29] Speaker 6: or the New Orleans Saints? Thanks for your time, bro.
[48:32] Speaker 2: Keep doing what you're doing.
[48:37] Speaker 1: You know, the best part about Stringer Bell not being
[48:39] Speaker 1: a real person is I don't have to respect his humanity.
[48:42] Speaker 1: That allows me to lean all the way in. I'm like,
[48:46] Speaker 1: you know what, though? Once you put Lane Kiffin in this,
[48:48] Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a tougher call. My issue
[48:51] Speaker 1: with Lawrence Fishburne, I don't know if he a bad person, necessarily.
[48:55] Speaker 1: I just felt like, for those of you who don't know,
[48:57] Speaker 1: I was working at Press Junket once in the year
[49:00] Speaker 1: of our Lord, 2003, at the, I believe it was
[49:04] Speaker 1: the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. And the way Press Junket works is,
[49:09] Speaker 1: they do it two different ways. Oh, no, it's Anyway,
[49:13] Speaker 1: you put a bunch of reporters in one room or
[49:15] Speaker 1: at one table, like six or seven. It's like for
[49:18] Speaker 1: a movie cast, you rotate the cast around to the
[49:20] Speaker 1: table so it's like a bunch of mini press conferences
[49:23] Speaker 1: and this allows you to you know get more work
[49:25] Speaker 1: done going around the room and so i was there
[49:28] Speaker 1: to do an interview with somebody else And they sat
[49:31] Speaker 1: Lawrence Fishburne down at the table. And so I wasn't
[49:33] Speaker 1: really paying no attention to him. And he tried to
[49:35] Speaker 1: call me out and make me ask him a question.
[49:37] Speaker 1: And I did. And it was a good question, too.
[49:39] Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was. And that jerk was just.
[49:41] Speaker 2: Like, no.
[49:43] Speaker 1: And just tried to play me in front of all
[49:44] Speaker 1: these people. It was white people, too. Like, I just
[49:46] Speaker 1: didn't really believe that that was appropriate behavior coming from him. But,
[49:50] Speaker 1: you know, the world got him back.
[49:57] Speaker 3: Right?
[49:57] Speaker 1: But that was just one day. You know what I mean? Like, that's,
[50:00] Speaker 1: you know, I can't say that I don't approve of
[50:03] Speaker 1: what he stands for. Like, I don't approve of what
[50:05] Speaker 1: Stringer Bell stands for or what Lane... Stringer Bell is
[50:09] Speaker 1: the answer. Stringer... I feel like Lane Kiffin and Stringer
[50:17] Speaker 1: Bell got a lot in common, though.
[50:22] Speaker 2: It's going to be an interesting year. All right, here's
[50:23] Speaker 2: our next one. What's up, Omani?
[50:25] Speaker 3: This is Cordae from the Bay. Uh....
[50:29] Speaker 5: It's a follow-up to the voicemail you played.
[50:32] Speaker 3: No, I'm not adopted.
[50:34] Speaker 5: This was my grandpa's idea. I know you from Houston, Texas.
[50:38] Speaker 5: My grandpa's from Dallas, Texas. I don't know if that
[50:42] Speaker 5: got anything to do with it, but also my grandpa
[50:44] Speaker 5: looks like James Brown except he's 6'2 and a truck driver. Yeah.
[50:49] Speaker 1: You got a perm?
[50:52] Speaker 5: So after we– so it was his idea to all
[50:55] Speaker 5: of a sudden start going– to Yosemite, and we hadn't
[50:58] Speaker 5: went in years. So we decided, oh, let's go when
[51:02] Speaker 5: y'all all are 18. And that's when we missed the bear,
[51:07] Speaker 5: stuff like that. That was the last time my family went,
[51:10] Speaker 5: because my mom was like, I ain't dealing with this
[51:12] Speaker 5: stress again. But my dumb self, my dumb self, went
[51:18] Speaker 5: the next year with some non-black people and woke up
[51:24] Speaker 5: one morning to the sound of bear. Again, but I
[51:28] Speaker 5: was in my tent, and I was with some non-black people,
[51:33] Speaker 5: and they was like, Bear, let's get out. I was like, no, wait.
[51:37] Speaker 5: Waited like two minutes. I was like, no, let's wait again.
[51:40] Speaker 5: I was like, let's just wait. Precautionary. Then we eventually
[51:45] Speaker 5: got out of our tent, and when we got out
[51:47] Speaker 5: of our tent, someone yelled, hey, good thing y'all didn't
[51:52] Speaker 5: get out of y'all's tent, because the bear was right
[51:54] Speaker 5: in front of y'all's tent. And that was the last
[51:58] Speaker 5: time I went to Yosemite.
[51:59] Speaker 2: That's Cordae from the Bay.
[52:02] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[52:03] Speaker 1: So those of you Cordae from the Bay last week
[52:05] Speaker 1: told us a story about how he was fortunate. He
[52:07] Speaker 1: went to take a walk, shall we say, and while
[52:10] Speaker 1: he was gone, the bear had come and they was
[52:11] Speaker 1: at Yosemite. And I was trying to figure out what
[52:13] Speaker 1: was going on with these black people at Yosemite. And
[52:15] Speaker 1: he gave the answer. And then he just said that
[52:17] Speaker 1: he went with some non-black people to Yosemite. And he said,
[52:19] Speaker 1: what happened? And, um, I will just tell you, tying
[52:23] Speaker 1: back to the conversation we were having a little bit earlier, um,
[52:27] Speaker 1: if my spotty senses are correct, and he's talking about
[52:29] Speaker 1: he was out there in the woods with these non-white people,
[52:32] Speaker 1: if the bear had ate him, they'd have put him
[52:34] Speaker 1: in one of them memes that I've been seeing going
[52:37] Speaker 1: around with Sherrod Moore. Who else? They put Mel Tucker
[52:42] Speaker 1: in the picture.
[52:43] Speaker 3: Who else?
[52:44] Speaker 1: Who else they have in there? But if you had
[52:46] Speaker 1: got ate by a bear because you was in the
[52:49] Speaker 1: woods with some non-white people, I get the feeling you'd
[52:53] Speaker 1: have been on the same list.
[52:56] Speaker 2: All right, here's our last one.
[53:00] Speaker 3: Hey, Bo, first time, long time from the wild to
[53:03] Speaker 3: northern Michigan. I met my wife in the wilderness of
[53:09] Speaker 3: northern New Mexico at the World's Largest View Camp in Cimarron,
[53:12] Speaker 3: New Mexico. And so I was not walking with my cousins,
[53:16] Speaker 3: but I was walking with my future wife into the woods.
[53:20] Speaker 3: And we were doing things that young people do when
[53:23] Speaker 3: they get away from, you know, Nature taking its course. And,
[53:29] Speaker 3: you know, bears are known for two things. One is,
[53:34] Speaker 3: you know, terrible eyesight and an excellent sense of smell.
[53:40] Speaker 3: So I can just imagine what this bear saw on
[53:45] Speaker 3: the ground, writhing and also smelling, probably something like it.
[53:51] Speaker 3: And I looked up and I saw this big old bull,
[53:54] Speaker 3: the bear. come walking up towards us. And I got
[53:58] Speaker 3: right up, had to protect my lady, threw my overalls on,
[54:02] Speaker 3: and I started yelling and screaming, and, hey, bear, get
[54:05] Speaker 3: out of here, as is the custom when you see
[54:07] Speaker 3: a bear such as that in your area. And I'm
[54:10] Speaker 3: waving my hands, and that old boy just kind of
[54:13] Speaker 3: stopped and made a different direction. He did not change pace.
[54:18] Speaker 3: He was not scared. He didn't care about me at all,
[54:22] Speaker 3: but he knew that that he needed to just keep walking.
[54:28] Speaker 3: And I was a lucky man that day, that's for sure.
[54:31] Speaker 3: Thank you.
[54:33] Speaker 1: Ryan, the last thing I expected was that voice, and
[54:37] Speaker 1: everything kept getting even more and more unexpected. It built
[54:41] Speaker 1: to such an amazing crescendo of defying expectations.
[54:46] Speaker 2: He just threw in, went to the world's largest youth
[54:49] Speaker 2: camp as an aside.
[54:51] Speaker 8: Yes, yes, yes, he did, he did. And also, I
[54:56] Speaker 8: don't think he knows what kind of walk. Hey, shout out.
[55:02] Speaker 1: To you, Big Dog.
[55:04] Speaker 2: He was having a great time.
[55:06] Speaker 1: You was making it happen. But shout out to you
[55:09] Speaker 1: also for throwing all your overalls. That wouldn't have been.
[55:13] Speaker 2: He's at extremely northern Michigan. I'm assuming that means the
[55:16] Speaker 2: upper peninsula. And I don't know if you know about
[55:18] Speaker 2: that place.
[55:19] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, I look. That is one of those
[55:22] Speaker 1: I need to look up, like how that works.
[55:26] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[55:27] Speaker 1: But wow, that was an amazing story. I appreciate that, man. Hey,
[55:32] Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here
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