# Bam Adebayo Punches Tyler Herro, Wemby's "Max" contract, Conor McGregor's next move | 07.13

An episode of [The Right Time with Bomani Jones](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/982639043), 13 Jul 2026, 49 min.

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Bomani Jones is back from NBA Summer League in Las Vegas with a loaded episode of The Right Time, starting with the wildest story of the weekend: the Bam Adebayo-Tyler Herro fight. From there, Bo gets into Victor Wembanyama’s five-year, $252 million extension with the San Antonio Spurs and explains why taking less than the full max could be great for the team but dangerous as a precedent for NBA stars. He also talks Summer League standouts, the AJ Dybantsa vs. Darryn Peterson matchup, the ongoing Kawhi Leonard and LA Clippers investigation & whether anyone actually cares how that case ends. He also reacts to Conor McGregor’s latest injury in Las Vegas, and Jalen Brown’s recent comments. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Wave.
[0:09] Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
[0:14] Speaker 3: My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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[0:20] Speaker 3: rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only
[0:22] Speaker 3: give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are
[0:25] Speaker 3: a hater. I was in Las Vegas this weekend, you know.
[0:30] Speaker 3: checking out Summer League situation, and I didn't realize that
[0:35] Speaker 3: it was a fight weekend. And apparently, Tyler Hero did
[0:41] Speaker 3: not realize it was a fight weekend.
[0:43] Speaker 2: Or maybe Tyler Hero did know that it.
[0:45] Speaker 3: Was a fight weekend, but he misunderstood who the white
[0:48] Speaker 3: boy was that was going to be getting his ass whooped.
[0:50] Speaker 2: He thought that that might have been Conor McGregor. Incorrect.
[0:54] Speaker 2: It was you, son. It was you. Those of you
[0:59] Speaker 2: who don't know what happened. I gotta say.
[1:03] Speaker 3: This in a bit of a more broad sense, right?
[1:06] Speaker 3: This is the first weekend of NBA Summer League. And
[1:10] Speaker 3: I think, and I've never really talked to anybody about this.
[1:13] Speaker 3: I'm just making a certain level of assumption. But it's
[1:16] Speaker 3: kind of become just like a basketball epicenter sort of
[1:20] Speaker 3: situation because you've got NBA Summer League and then also
[1:25] Speaker 3: this big AAU tournament that goes on that same weekend.
[1:28] Speaker 3: And I've assumed, and I could be wrong, and a
[1:30] Speaker 3: big part of why they do that is All the.
[1:33] Speaker 2: NBA guys got AAU teams anyway. So then they're going
[1:37] Speaker 2: to be there, right?
[1:38] Speaker 3: So then you get like all the college coaches who
[1:40] Speaker 3: are going to be there because there's the AAU tournament
[1:43] Speaker 3: that is going on there.
[1:44] Speaker 2: And you got the NBA and they even had an
[1:46] Speaker 2: Aces game over the weekend. You understand what I'm saying?
[1:48] Speaker 2: So it's a lot going on there.
[1:51] Speaker 3: But I hadn't really given a lot of thought to
[1:53] Speaker 3: the AAU tournament, except for the fact that It's a
[2:00] Speaker 3: lot of teenagers walking around the casino. Now, they're not
[2:03] Speaker 3: stopping and sitting and playing no games or nothing, right?
[2:07] Speaker 2: I'm just saying all that to say, and.
[2:09] Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but I just don't feel like
[2:12] Speaker 3: Las Vegas is the place for high school activities. I
[2:15] Speaker 3: wouldn't care if it's the Nevada State Championship. I guess
[2:17] Speaker 3: Nevada shit is all the same. But you get where
[2:19] Speaker 3: I'm coming from, right? Like, I just don't think that's
[2:21] Speaker 3: the wisest idea.
[2:22] Speaker 4: Where else are they going to go? Reno?
[2:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Nevada's all Nevada, right?
[2:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
[2:29] Speaker 3: But even still, let's bring the teenagers to Vegas, man.
[2:32] Speaker 2: You're going to.
[2:33] Speaker 3: You go, I see a lot, a whole lot going
[2:35] Speaker 3: on there. Don't know if I would necessarily recommend it.
[2:38] Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. But anyway, so apparently at Resort World,
[2:42] Speaker 3: they got like basketball courts, Ryan. And that's where there
[2:44] Speaker 3: was some form of practice.
[2:46] Speaker 2: It's out of Hero and out of Bayou over there.
[2:48] Speaker 3: And I know some people have asked the question about like,
[2:51] Speaker 3: how is it that this made the news? People get
[2:52] Speaker 3: in fights all the time because this happened in front.
[2:54] Speaker 2: Of a gang of people.
[2:56] Speaker 4: Yes.
[2:57] Speaker 5: Right.
[2:57] Speaker 2: This wasn't like a practice fight.
[2:59] Speaker 3: Tyler Hero sees Bam Adebayo, says something, and the greatest
[3:05] Speaker 3: detail from the report from the Athletic is.
[3:08] Speaker 2: The two words, without hesitation.
[3:11] Speaker 1: Yes.
[3:11] Speaker 3: Where they said that Bam Adebayo, without hesitation, stole off
[3:15] Speaker 3: on Tyler Hero in the head area, I think was
[3:18] Speaker 3: the way that it was put.
[3:19] Speaker 2: You got to be careful about the specifics on that.
[3:22] Speaker 3: And for those of you who don't know, Tyler Hero
[3:25] Speaker 3: had got caught DMing with somebody on Instagram, complaining about
[3:28] Speaker 3: Bam and basically saying, I don't really understand. Like, I'm
[3:31] Speaker 3: the dude that they were trying to stop on offense.
[3:34] Speaker 3: He ain't even got to show up and y'all just
[3:36] Speaker 3: love him, which... Interestingly enough, it's not an unfair point.
[3:40] Speaker 4: Bit of a diet get-off-my-Dickerson situation.
[3:43] Speaker 1: It is.
[3:43] Speaker 2: It is, except it was on his name.
[3:45] Speaker 4: Yes.
[3:46] Speaker 2: It was on his name.
[3:46] Speaker 3: But no, I forget which writer it was that reported
[3:49] Speaker 3: that that was the thing that Jimmy Butler had also felt, because.
[3:51] Speaker 2: That's the thing.
[3:52] Speaker 3: When they don't want to give Jimmy to Max, there's
[3:53] Speaker 3: always somebody that Jimmy's looking at like, you don't give
[3:55] Speaker 3: it to him?
[3:55] Speaker 6: Right.
[3:57] Speaker 3: Normally, Jimmy's right about this, but it is a pattern.
[4:00] Speaker 2: We cannot deny it. But Tyler Hero seemed to have
[4:02] Speaker 2: that same feeling.
[4:03] Speaker 3: I forget who it was, which one of the reporters
[4:05] Speaker 3: from Miami was like, yeah, man, guys on the team
[4:07] Speaker 3: wonder why it is all of us are in the
[4:09] Speaker 3: trade talks.
[4:09] Speaker 2: It ain't never him. So there's a certain level of
[4:12] Speaker 2: resentment that does exist.
[4:16] Speaker 3: However, I give Bam some credit because people often talk
[4:22] Speaker 3: about on-site, right? Like it's going to be an on-site situation.
[4:29] Speaker 2: I'm swinging on you.
[4:31] Speaker 3: On site very few people actually mean that even if
[4:36] Speaker 3: it is on site they got a temperate on the
[4:39] Speaker 3: front end with a little jibber jabber which means it's
[4:41] Speaker 3: not actually an on site it's on site i will
[4:44] Speaker 3: go over there and eventually perhaps i will swing no
[4:47] Speaker 3: based on the reports this was on site.
[4:52] Speaker 4: Bit of a heat seeking missile situation just straight.
[4:54] Speaker 2: On site Right there, right there. He'd been telling people,
[4:58] Speaker 2: if I see him, this is what I'm going to do.
[5:01] Speaker 2: And then he did it.
[5:02] Speaker 3: It was so on site in that way, Ryan, that
[5:06] Speaker 3: I asked people if Asia Wilson was there. Because don't
[5:11] Speaker 3: nobody make nobody get that battery in their back to
[5:14] Speaker 3: fight quite like that girl being there. Like if he
[5:16] Speaker 3: had been at the crib telling his girl, he'd go
[5:18] Speaker 3: whoop his ass the next time he saw him.
[5:20] Speaker 2: And his girl was there and he saw him. He
[5:23] Speaker 2: really got to do it. Like, in front of your partners,
[5:25] Speaker 2: we might have understood that you was just being a little,
[5:28] Speaker 2: you was a little aggy.
[5:29] Speaker 4: Right.
[5:29] Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no.
[5:30] Speaker 4: He gets like that sometimes, yeah.
[5:31] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[5:32] Speaker 3: Apparently, Bam, Bam could not be a Houston Rock. You
[5:39] Speaker 3: raise a good point there about to get off by Diggerson.
[5:42] Speaker 3: Bam would have run, apparently, Bam would have or might
[5:46] Speaker 3: have at least run up on Kevin Durant instantly.
[5:50] Speaker 2: Nah, he brought it to Tyler Hero.
[5:53] Speaker 3: And I want to know what voice Tyler Hero was
[5:55] Speaker 3: using in all of this. Because what they tell me
[5:57] Speaker 3: about Tyler Hero was it wasn't like that before.
[6:01] Speaker 2: He got to Kentucky. Then I'll never forget when he
[6:05] Speaker 2: got drafted.
[6:06] Speaker 3: I hadn't really paid that much attention to what his
[6:08] Speaker 3: get down was, but I saw him at the draft
[6:10] Speaker 3: and his whole thing and how he was acting.
[6:12] Speaker 2: And you can look it up on Twitter.
[6:14] Speaker 3: I said that the appropriate draft comp for him was
[6:17] Speaker 3: Scott Storch. He had all the way leaned in onto
[6:21] Speaker 3: this version of Tyler Hero that we now see. This
[6:25] Speaker 3: whole B-Rad situation. He was all the way there at
[6:30] Speaker 3: that point. And I want to know, when he get
[6:32] Speaker 3: hit in the face, does he get more B-Rad or
[6:34] Speaker 3: does he go back to being Brad? Does he take
[6:40] Speaker 3: it back to whatever it is? I personally am very
[6:43] Speaker 3: curious about that fact. That became the single biggest story
[6:47] Speaker 3: of the weekend, boys. Everybody has something to say and
[6:50] Speaker 3: ask about that.
[6:51] Speaker 4: Right. Nothing brings people together like a, not only a fight,
[6:55] Speaker 4: but a surprise, a fight they were not expecting.
[6:58] Speaker 2: A fight they weren't expecting.
[7:00] Speaker 3: And as we know, nothing makes a fight sell like
[7:03] Speaker 3: a little bit of chromatic contrast.
[7:07] Speaker 2: The thing is, this is where it gets weird. The
[7:11] Speaker 2: white dudes that are under the Tyler Hero archetype, they
[7:16] Speaker 2: don't get the support of their own people. unless they
[7:20] Speaker 2: come back home, right?
[7:24] Speaker 3: And I wonder, and remember.
[7:27] Speaker 2: Tyler's back in Wisconsin now. Think about this.
[7:29] Speaker 3: Dave was mad at Tyler Hero coming out of high
[7:31] Speaker 3: school because he didn't go to Wisconsin. Not only did
[7:34] Speaker 3: he not go to Wisconsin, he went off and got
[7:36] Speaker 3: less Wisconsin than he ever could have been.
[7:39] Speaker 2: And now he coming back to play for the Bucs.
[7:41] Speaker 2: And I don't know, man.
[7:42] Speaker 3: Maybe he can hang out with Cuckoo Cal and some
[7:45] Speaker 3: of the other Milwaukee hip hoppers.
[7:47] Speaker 2: I have no idea who it is that he's going
[7:49] Speaker 2: to hang out with. But I do feel like, and
[7:51] Speaker 2: I could be wrong, somebody will have to go ask
[7:54] Speaker 2: the whites. But if Tyler Herro.
[7:57] Speaker 3: wants to get the sympathy that you normally get because
[7:59] Speaker 3: some mean black guy, when it's stolen off on you
[8:02] Speaker 3: out of nowhere, he's going to have to repent. You know?
[8:07] Speaker 2: He's going to have to acknowledge some of his sins.
[8:09] Speaker 4: Not apologize, repent.
[8:11] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got to come back.
[8:15] Speaker 2: He's got to pay this off.
[8:17] Speaker 3: He's got some debt to pay off as he returns.
[8:22] Speaker 4: You know he's repenting if he shows up in a
[8:23] Speaker 4: Packers jersey?
[8:25] Speaker 3: I think that's a part of it, because he might
[8:27] Speaker 3: have turned into a Raiders fan, right? This is how
[8:31] Speaker 3: you know that he's made the decision to come back.
[8:35] Speaker 3: You'll know he's made this decision to come back when
[8:38] Speaker 3: he takes the path that many others in his situation
[8:44] Speaker 3: have taken. I remember the first time I really noticed it,
[8:50] Speaker 3: I want to say it was in the year 1999,
[8:54] Speaker 3: around 2000. I saw it again, maybe about five years ago,
[9:04] Speaker 3: give or take. And most recently, I think I saw
[9:10] Speaker 3: it one or two years ago. And when I saw
[9:15] Speaker 3: it happen one or two years ago, it was Post Malone.
[9:20] Speaker 3: And when I saw it about five years ago, It
[9:24] Speaker 3: was Justin Timberlake. And when I saw it in 1999,
[9:30] Speaker 3: it was Everlast.
[9:31] Speaker 2: Excuse me, Whitey Ford. That's right. That's right.
[9:38] Speaker 3: You know what time it is for Tyler Hero. If
[9:40] Speaker 3: you want to get him back, you want to get
[9:42] Speaker 3: the crowd back on your side, time for you to
[9:46] Speaker 3: go to the pawn shop.
[9:49] Speaker 2: And go get you an acoustic guitar.
[9:55] Speaker 4: That's right.
[9:56] Speaker 2: You go ahead and do that. You go there. You
[9:59] Speaker 2: get that acoustic guitar.
[10:00] Speaker 1: Guitar.
[10:01] Speaker 2: You learn you three chords. All you need is three, baby.
[10:05] Speaker 2: You go get you three chords. You go learn some
[10:09] Speaker 2: old standards of sorts. You know what I mean?
[10:11] Speaker 3: In fact, you should have started practicing in Las Vegas
[10:16] Speaker 3: getting the crew back. You had a test audience for
[10:19] Speaker 3: you to work this out with while you was there.
[10:21] Speaker 3: It's all them people that came to see Kenny Chesney.
[10:25] Speaker 4: Interesting crowd, I'm sure. A little different from the summer
[10:27] Speaker 4: league crowd.
[10:28] Speaker 2: Well, keep in mind, there's a Conor McGregor crowd also.
[10:31] Speaker 4: Oh, I forgot about, I forgot about that.
[10:33] Speaker 2: However, the Kenny Chesney crowd was easy to specify.
[10:37] Speaker 4: I'm sure they were.
[10:38] Speaker 2: Out of the other ones, but.
[10:39] Speaker 3: I think maybe Tyler Herro needed to go there. Or
[10:42] Speaker 3: maybe he needed to, because it'd be too much for
[10:44] Speaker 3: him to go all the way there. Maybe he stops
[10:46] Speaker 3: at the Conor McGregor crowd on the way back. Like,
[10:48] Speaker 3: this is how you.
[10:51] Speaker 2: Kind of work it out.
[10:52] Speaker 3: Or, or, or, or, he got to double down on
[10:57] Speaker 3: what it was. Here's why that worries me. I feel
[11:03] Speaker 3: like I've seen very similar movies before with people like
[11:07] Speaker 3: this in these circumstances. where they get stole on and
[11:10] Speaker 3: they need to make sure that everybody know they ain't
[11:12] Speaker 3: no punk. Please don't start carrying a gun.
[11:24] Speaker 2: And who knows, maybe he carries one already. I have
[11:26] Speaker 2: no idea.
[11:27] Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, please don't. Yeah, yeah, I'm just
[11:30] Speaker 3: sitting here right here. Like, please, please don't. Like, again,
[11:34] Speaker 3: I know you're going back to Wisconsin. If you want
[11:35] Speaker 3: to get a gun so you can shoot some animals...
[11:37] Speaker 3: It's a little bit of a different situation, you know? But,
[11:40] Speaker 3: you know, very often, again, in these times, people feel
[11:44] Speaker 3: they got to do what it take to get back
[11:46] Speaker 3: their respect. And maybe sometime they go a little bit farther.
[11:50] Speaker 3: And I'm going to be honest, if I was him,
[11:52] Speaker 3: I'd be a little bit worried that all these cats...
[11:55] Speaker 3: The rest of them go start stealing off on me
[11:56] Speaker 3: for no reason. Also, just because I didn't really hear
[11:59] Speaker 3: nothing in the story about him hitting nobody back.
[12:01] Speaker 4: No, no, no. It was not. They got an altercation.
[12:05] Speaker 4: It was great. Bam out of body. Yeah. Hit him
[12:10] Speaker 4: in the face here. Facial area.
[12:12] Speaker 2: That is a great point.
[12:13] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[12:13] Speaker 2: So you see why I'm worried, right?
[12:14] Speaker 4: Right.
[12:15] Speaker 3: Like, like.
[12:16] Speaker 2: Ain't nothing worse than.
[12:17] Speaker 3: Somebody in that situation that then feel like they got.
[12:19] Speaker 2: Something to prove. And hey, who knows?
[12:21] Speaker 3: Maybe Tyler Herro gonna hear this and he gonna feel
[12:24] Speaker 3: like he can prove it, run.
[12:25] Speaker 2: It up on me. I'll take that for the squad.
[12:28] Speaker 2: Ain't nobody gonna die. You know what I'm saying? It
[12:31] Speaker 2: ain't gonna happen, right? Like I'd appreciate it if you
[12:33] Speaker 2: didn't like pull no, you ain't gotta pull no tool
[12:35] Speaker 2: on me. You ain't got a pistol with me. All
[12:36] Speaker 2: you gotta do is come and talk real mean in
[12:38] Speaker 2: my face, right?
[12:39] Speaker 3: You tall enough than me, I'll give you the satisfaction.
[12:42] Speaker 3: I'll let you get your money's worth, right? I'll take
[12:45] Speaker 3: that all for everybody if that's the route that you
[12:47] Speaker 3: wanna take just to keep everything safe. But in the
[12:51] Speaker 3: long run, brother, I'm telling you, let's think about some
[12:55] Speaker 3: of these songs that you might wanna learn the words to.
[12:58] Speaker 3: Fire and Rain, Country Roads. You know, I'm just saying,
[13:05] Speaker 3: these are the kind of songs that, you know, Sweet Caroline.
[13:08] Speaker 2: Just saying. Like, when you go back, man, you might
[13:10] Speaker 2: want to play them, play them some jams that they do, right?
[13:16] Speaker 2: But you got to think about how you move past this.
[13:18] Speaker 4: Friends in Wild Places.
[13:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's... Call it Bat Rouge. Isn't that what y'all
[13:22] Speaker 2: like over there?
[13:23] Speaker 4: We sure do.
[13:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, like this is how you make your path back. Or, or, or,
[13:30] Speaker 3: somebody start playing Eye of the Tiger or whatever the
[13:33] Speaker 3: name of the song is, the Biggie sample for victory,
[13:37] Speaker 3: and prepare yourself for.
[13:38] Speaker 2: That first game against the Heat. Because you got to
[13:41] Speaker 2: come out there and spill off on that motherfucker as
[13:42] Speaker 2: soon as you see him out there. I don't know.
[13:45] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[13:46] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[13:47] Speaker 2: But the plan that's going to make you the most money...
[13:50] Speaker 2: Three chords. Three chords and a dream.
[13:59] Speaker 3: All right, the other basketball story that actually isn't from
[14:02] Speaker 3: Summer League is kind of wild that Victor Wimbayama signed
[14:05] Speaker 3: his extension. Five years, $ 252 million. It's a lot of money,
[14:12] Speaker 3: but it's $ 50 million less than he could have signed for. Now,
[14:20] Speaker 3: It's safe to assume that this is about the NBA
[14:23] Speaker 3: in their apron situation and creating a situation where these
[14:27] Speaker 3: other cats can get their money or can get some
[14:31] Speaker 3: money and they can hold the team together.
[14:35] Speaker 2: He can do whatever he wants with his money, right?
[14:39] Speaker 3: And maybe this makes him the nicest guy in the
[14:42] Speaker 3: world because I feel like what he did was, and
[14:48] Speaker 3: someone could correct me if I'm wrong here, I feel
[14:52] Speaker 3: like he made the sacrifice so that nobody else would
[14:58] Speaker 3: have to sacrifice.
[15:00] Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying?
[15:01] Speaker 3: So since Victor do that to get his money, nobody
[15:05] Speaker 3: else has to do that in order to save their money.
[15:12] Speaker 3: I would not recommend setting that precedent, right? Now, to
[15:15] Speaker 3: be fair to him, and Ryan, I think this is
[15:17] Speaker 3: a big part of it. It's a little different when
[15:21] Speaker 3: you do this, and it's about hypothetical personnel moves that
[15:26] Speaker 3: you'll be making. We know the guys that they need
[15:29] Speaker 3: to give the money to.
[15:30] Speaker 4: Yes.
[15:30] Speaker 2: We saw them out there, right? It's Dillon Harper. It's Castle.
[15:36] Speaker 4: Who are all going to be coming up with a
[15:38] Speaker 4: very similar extension in the next year or two.
[15:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, or somewhere in there, right?
[15:42] Speaker 3: So I don't think he winds up in the situation
[15:45] Speaker 3: like Dirk Nowitzki. Where Dirk was just out here putting
[15:48] Speaker 3: all these kids through private school just so they could go, like,
[15:51] Speaker 3: win 40 games.
[15:53] Speaker 5: Right?
[15:53] Speaker 3: Like, they ain't never made no good decisions with Dirk's
[15:56] Speaker 3: money that he kept.
[15:57] Speaker 2: Giving back to them year after year.
[15:59] Speaker 4: Well, it turns out that Mark Cuban might not have
[16:01] Speaker 4: been the best basketball mind.
[16:03] Speaker 1: Fair.
[16:03] Speaker 4: If we've learned anything from the way he's given interviews.
[16:06] Speaker 3: Over the last year and a half. But the bottom
[16:07] Speaker 3: line is, if he's going to get his money back,
[16:09] Speaker 3: I need to know where it's going.
[16:10] Speaker 1: Right. Right?
[16:11] Speaker 3: Like, there's some friends that they call you and be like, yo, man,
[16:13] Speaker 3: I need to borrow some money. You don't ask no questions.
[16:15] Speaker 2: You give it to them. Some others would be like, yeah,
[16:16] Speaker 2: what's this going to? What's this for?
[16:19] Speaker 4: What happened?
[16:21] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[16:21] Speaker 3: And so it's interesting because I think the new head
[16:23] Speaker 3: of the Players Association.
[16:27] Speaker 2: This week did a press conference.
[16:29] Speaker 3: His big thing was about how we got to do
[16:31] Speaker 3: something about the second apron. Which does not seem to
[16:34] Speaker 3: be good for the players, right?
[16:36] Speaker 4: No.
[16:37] Speaker 2: Not for the players that want to stay places.
[16:39] Speaker 3: I think if you just look at it through a
[16:41] Speaker 3: very binary lens of more money, get it wherever you want,
[16:45] Speaker 3: but I think that guys, especially if you've got a
[16:47] Speaker 3: good little situation with a.
[16:48] Speaker 2: Team, they kind of want to keep that thing together.
[16:50] Speaker 3: I was talking to somebody from the league who says
[16:51] Speaker 3: it feels like what's happened with these things has been
[16:54] Speaker 3: an unmitigated success, and the comparison that he made was
[16:56] Speaker 3: that Nobody cares about guys changing teams to the NFL
[16:59] Speaker 3: every year. And that's a yes and no sort of situation.
[17:02] Speaker 3: You're correct, but that's just a different game. I prefer
[17:06] Speaker 3: the dynasty soccer with the NBA. And I do think
[17:09] Speaker 3: that fans don't like the idea that they have to
[17:12] Speaker 3: lose their players just because they got too good.
[17:15] Speaker 2: In the NFL, you don't get nearly as much of
[17:17] Speaker 2: that feeling.
[17:18] Speaker 3: Like in the NFL, when a guy leaves the team,
[17:20] Speaker 3: normally it's because the team wants the guy to leave.
[17:22] Speaker 4: And also, in the NFL, like, lots of players leave,
[17:24] Speaker 4: but the top five or six players in a dynasty
[17:27] Speaker 4: don't normally leave.
[17:28] Speaker 2: That is correct.
[17:29] Speaker 4: Right, like, you know, like, the back end of the
[17:32] Speaker 4: roster changes, but the face of the franchise is, if
[17:34] Speaker 4: you were on a sustained run, those guys are often there.
[17:37] Speaker 3: Yeah, we're looking at things happening with the number two
[17:39] Speaker 3: and the number three guys on the team.
[17:41] Speaker 4: Right.
[17:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, and that doesn't quite feel as good. And so.
[17:48] Speaker 3: The Jalen Brunson thing, I think, has led to the
[17:50] Speaker 3: idea of the charm of, hey, I'll give back a
[17:52] Speaker 3: little bit of money so that we can make these
[17:55] Speaker 3: big moves. But remember, Jalen Brunson was negotiating in a
[17:58] Speaker 3: situation with a team.
[17:59] Speaker 2: That gave his daddy a job.
[18:02] Speaker 3: The general manager, who was his daddy's agent, and his agent,
[18:06] Speaker 3: who is the general manager's son. That's very my seeds,
[18:11] Speaker 3: marry his seeds, marry his seeds. That's how we keep
[18:13] Speaker 3: Wu-Tang money all up in the family.
[18:16] Speaker 2: That's what they were doing.
[18:17] Speaker 3: By the way, that is exactly how Leon Rose described
[18:20] Speaker 3: it when they got together to talk about that. That's
[18:22] Speaker 3: how we keep Wu-Tang money all up in the family.
[18:24] Speaker 3: That's what he said.
[18:26] Speaker 2: I promise you. Look it up. It's law.
[18:31] Speaker 3: But anyway, I will never like, I do not like
[18:33] Speaker 3: ever that it's this guy's job or they feel the
[18:37] Speaker 3: obligation to do the job of the general manager. That
[18:40] Speaker 3: they feel the obligation to figure out how to get
[18:43] Speaker 3: this done. But to be fair, I don't know necessarily
[18:47] Speaker 3: how the general managers, unless you're Sam Presti and you
[18:49] Speaker 3: just got a zillion draft picks that allow you to
[18:52] Speaker 3: figure it out.
[18:53] Speaker 2: I don't know what else there.
[18:55] Speaker 3: Is, but If somehow... So, okay. So this is actually
[18:58] Speaker 3: an interesting progression with the agent.
[19:00] Speaker 2: With the union, that is. That the union has typically
[19:03] Speaker 2: been a middle-class players union, right? It's always been a.
[19:09] Speaker 3: Like mid-tier level guy who's in charge. And the CBAs
[19:13] Speaker 3: have always been.
[19:14] Speaker 4: CJ McCollum. No, no, no, no.
[19:16] Speaker 2: Not even him. That's a little too high up. That's
[19:18] Speaker 2: a little too high up. Derek Fisher's a better example.
[19:21] Speaker 4: Okay, got it. That makes sense.
[19:21] Speaker 3: But yeah, but it's just a run of guys. Like
[19:24] Speaker 3: the CBAs have been good to the middle class of
[19:26] Speaker 3: the NBA. And then we saw, I think it was
[19:29] Speaker 3: the 2011 lockout. That's when we saw the stars come back.
[19:32] Speaker 3: That's Chris Paul being in charge. And the stars started
[19:36] Speaker 3: to get some things to take care of them better.
[19:38] Speaker 3: on the top end of this because that's the thing
[19:40] Speaker 3: about sports union stuff is and there could be a
[19:43] Speaker 3: wide range of what everybody's looking for in coming out
[19:48] Speaker 3: of this right so then yeah cj mccollum is a
[19:50] Speaker 3: little bit more toward that obviously than the chris paul
[19:53] Speaker 3: example but this has been a very good union to
[19:58] Speaker 3: pretty good players because that's the max contract is great
[20:01] Speaker 3: for pretty good players because since you can't give all
[20:04] Speaker 3: the money to the excellent players the pretty good players
[20:08] Speaker 3: Get to get a chunk.
[20:09] Speaker 4: Right. The like 15th to 30th best player in the
[20:12] Speaker 4: NBA have it.
[20:13] Speaker 1: Yes.
[20:13] Speaker 4: Probably have the best deal in the NBA.
[20:16] Speaker 2: Exactly.
[20:17] Speaker 3: Because there's money left over and that money comes down
[20:21] Speaker 3: to them. And what we did see for a while
[20:25] Speaker 3: and why they had to change these things up was
[20:27] Speaker 3: starting with the decision. We did see some guys start
[20:30] Speaker 3: being willing to give up a little money to make
[20:32] Speaker 3: something happen because the NBA's whole thing was, we'll just
[20:34] Speaker 3: money with you. Like, that's how we'll get the guys
[20:37] Speaker 3: to stay on teams. We're just going to money whip you.
[20:40] Speaker 3: Now they're like, we don't really care if you stay
[20:43] Speaker 3: on teams. How about that?
[20:44] Speaker 2: When you think about it, it's a really weird play.
[20:47] Speaker 3: In the end, there used to be all these things
[20:48] Speaker 3: with the CBA to let you go over to keep
[20:51] Speaker 3: your own players, right? All the things that you can
[20:53] Speaker 3: do to keep your own players, to give you the
[20:54] Speaker 3: advantage and your ability to keep your own players so
[20:57] Speaker 3: they wouldn't go anywhere else. Now the game has changed
[20:59] Speaker 3: because these guys don't even wait till free agency anymore.
[21:02] Speaker 3: They sign the deals early and then they force a trade, right?
[21:06] Speaker 3: Which has now led to this evolution of the game
[21:09] Speaker 3: where they're like, okay, well, we're just going to have
[21:11] Speaker 3: to just keep moving guys around.
[21:12] Speaker 2: How about that?
[21:13] Speaker 3: It's just going to be like this game of musical chairs, basically,
[21:16] Speaker 3: to get the guys out. But what it should never
[21:19] Speaker 3: be is cats got to feel like they should give
[21:21] Speaker 3: up bread.
[21:23] Speaker 4: Especially in their first big contract, right? Like this is
[21:25] Speaker 4: not like, I mean, right.
[21:28] Speaker 2: And to be clear, he took what would have been
[21:31] Speaker 2: the max. This is Victor. He took what would have
[21:34] Speaker 2: been the max.
[21:35] Speaker 3: Had he not been defensive player of the year, because
[21:38] Speaker 3: that entitled him to the 30% max, the Derrick Rose max,
[21:42] Speaker 3: as opposed to the 25% max. He just took the 25%.
[21:47] Speaker 4: But the 30% max is created for players like Victor Wimminyama.
[21:51] Speaker 2: You have to earn it.
[21:52] Speaker 4: Right, exactly.
[21:53] Speaker 2: They put a whole provision in on purpose.
[21:56] Speaker 1: Yes.
[21:57] Speaker 3: It's why it's called the Derrick Rose rule, right?
[22:00] Speaker 2: It's put in specifically. I think Derrick Rose was the
[22:03] Speaker 2: first guy to get it. That's why it became him.
[22:04] Speaker 3: But it's like, it's put there specifically for guys like
[22:08] Speaker 3: you to be able to cash in. And I'm sorry,
[22:12] Speaker 3: a world where guys do that is the greatest thing
[22:15] Speaker 3: to ever happen to the bosses. The outright greatest thing
[22:21] Speaker 3: to ever happen to the bosses. And that kind of stinks, right?
[22:25] Speaker 3: So anybody else that's out there, I'm just telling you
[22:27] Speaker 3: right now, you don't have to.
[22:29] Speaker 4: Do this shit.
[22:30] Speaker 3: If you want to, It's your world. But, like, you
[22:35] Speaker 3: don't have to do that. I don't know if you've
[22:39] Speaker 3: ever seen Chappelle's got a bit he does where he
[22:40] Speaker 3: talks about when he walked away from the Comedy Central money.
[22:45] Speaker 5: Yes.
[22:46] Speaker 3: And he said, you know, I didn't get paid the
[22:48] Speaker 3: $ 50 million. But I did get paid, I think we'll
[22:52] Speaker 3: call it, let's just say the number was, like, closer
[22:54] Speaker 3: to $ 10 million.
[22:55] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[22:55] Speaker 2: And he's like, look, the difference between $ 50 million and
[22:58] Speaker 2: $ 10 million isn't that big in applications.
[23:02] Speaker 3: You still go to the same places with $ 10 million
[23:04] Speaker 3: that you will with $ 50 million. You still hang out
[23:06] Speaker 3: with the same people. You can still do all these same.
[23:09] Speaker 2: Things, da, da, da.
[23:11] Speaker 3: And he says, in the end, the difference between $ 50
[23:15] Speaker 3: million and $ 10 million is a mere $ 40 million. And
[23:24] Speaker 3: however you hear that, that is real.
[23:27] Speaker 4: Right.
[23:27] Speaker 3: Like I remember we were talking about Buddy Joel, about
[23:30] Speaker 3: the idea of the boy of these guys boycotting Southern schools.
[23:33] Speaker 2: He's like, we're not asking for a big sacrifice.
[23:35] Speaker 3: Just take five million dollars instead of six.
[23:38] Speaker 2: What the fuck are you talking about? We're not having
[23:40] Speaker 2: a 20 percent raise. You know, not cussing at you, Joel,
[23:43] Speaker 2: but that's a million dollars. Yeah, that's a bet. That's
[23:46] Speaker 2: a big trade. Yeah, that's a big trade.
[23:48] Speaker 3: And now what's the difference between having two hundred fifty
[23:50] Speaker 3: million dollars and three hundred million dollars? Oh, meditating Buddhist-ass Victor. Honestly,
[23:58] Speaker 3: I see him as being the guy that doesn't see
[24:00] Speaker 3: the difference. I see the difference. You know why I
[24:03] Speaker 3: see the difference? It's not even the difference about what
[24:06] Speaker 3: goes in my pocket. It's about what comes out of
[24:08] Speaker 3: your pocket. Show me that respect. Now, maybe he feels
[24:13] Speaker 3: he's already received all that respect. Maybe he's willing to,
[24:15] Speaker 3: he gets so much respect, he can give some of
[24:17] Speaker 3: his respect to.
[24:18] Speaker 2: These other guys on the team. I'm not sure.
[24:22] Speaker 3: I'm just telling Victor, when dudes start running up on
[24:24] Speaker 3: you in the locker room and asking to borrow money
[24:26] Speaker 3: because it just seemed like you were that kind of guy,
[24:30] Speaker 3: just remember why that happened, right? You showed them your benevolence.
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[26:24] Speaker 4: Thursday night for FanDuel. AJ Devonsa taking on Darren Peterson.
[26:28] Speaker 4: You were at that game. What were your thoughts?
[26:31] Speaker 2: I think we need to figure out how to use
[26:33] Speaker 2: this boy.
[26:33] Speaker 3: They was in there dueling off. You know what I'm saying?
[26:36] Speaker 3: The boys dueling off in front of everybody. So I
[26:39] Speaker 3: was there for that game. It was very interesting. And
[26:42] Speaker 3: the arena was heavily invested because, you know, especially those
[26:45] Speaker 3: of us on the East, we don't think too much about.
[26:47] Speaker 2: The geography of it. But Utah, very close.
[26:52] Speaker 1: Okay?
[26:52] Speaker 3: Like, I went to the Grand Canyon while I was
[26:55] Speaker 3: out there.
[26:55] Speaker 2: You can go there from Utah also. I didn't realize that.
[26:57] Speaker 2: You can go from Vegas, you can go from Phoenix,
[26:58] Speaker 2: you can go from Utah. I didn't realize that.
[26:59] Speaker 4: I mean, there's multiple sides of the Grand Canyon. It's
[27:01] Speaker 4: a big thing.
[27:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[27:02] Speaker 2: But either way, the proximity is that it's close enough.
[27:05] Speaker 4: Oh, not yet.
[27:06] Speaker 3: So what you had was on one side, the BYU guy.
[27:10] Speaker 3: On the other side, the Utah Jazz. So, like, Utah
[27:14] Speaker 3: was in the house.
[27:16] Speaker 2: For that game. Those boys are going to be all-stars. Very,
[27:20] Speaker 2: very close. very soon.
[27:22] Speaker 3: And they were both, by the way, very heavily invested
[27:25] Speaker 3: in that game.
[27:26] Speaker 4: They don't like each other.
[27:27] Speaker 2: It does. They do not want it.
[27:29] Speaker 3: The thing you got to remember is from talking to
[27:32] Speaker 3: guys like around the circuit, Peterson was seen by a
[27:34] Speaker 3: lot of people as absolutely that guy. Like I said,
[27:36] Speaker 3: I mean, there, there are more people, the people who
[27:39] Speaker 3: think the Bansa is better than Peterson are not nearly
[27:43] Speaker 3: as dismissive as the people who think Peterson is better than.
[27:47] Speaker 2: The Bansa, you know, like it's really there. Um, Peterson
[27:52] Speaker 2: is that guy.
[27:52] Speaker 3: The only thing I wondered about Peterson from watching how
[27:55] Speaker 3: he's being guarded, again, it's summer league basketball, which is weird,
[27:58] Speaker 3: but those guys are getting really physical with him and
[28:00] Speaker 3: he didn't seem quite as equipped to handle it, which
[28:02] Speaker 3: seems a little strange because he's got an NBA body,
[28:04] Speaker 3: so to speak. DeBansa, 6'9, coming downhill, dog. There's something
[28:10] Speaker 3: to that. He's coming to yam on people, everything else.
[28:13] Speaker 3: I will say one last thing, and I think it's
[28:15] Speaker 3: important just for people to know. I talked to somebody
[28:18] Speaker 3: who's affiliated with the Kansas program. And I asked the
[28:25] Speaker 3: read on Peterson and the guy couldn't have been more unequivocal.
[28:29] Speaker 3: He said, Kansas did him a disservice with the narratives
[28:35] Speaker 3: that surrounded him. Like disservice was the word that was used.
[28:40] Speaker 3: I'm just saying whatever the apprehensions may be that you
[28:43] Speaker 3: have about Peterson from what happened at Kansas, the people
[28:46] Speaker 3: at Kansas don't have those apprehensions.
[28:49] Speaker 2: Throwing it out there.
[28:50] Speaker 4: That's interesting, especially that, you know, they spent so much
[28:52] Speaker 4: time with him over the last few months. All right.
[28:55] Speaker 4: Some more basketball news. The Clippers rafters trades centered around
[28:59] Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard is on hold and will not be completed
[29:03] Speaker 4: until the NBA investigation into whether the Clippers circumvented the
[29:07] Speaker 4: salary cap is completed. That got announced on Thursday. They
[29:12] Speaker 4: silver said they hope to finish this investigation and process
[29:16] Speaker 4: in a few weeks. Bo, what are your thoughts?
[29:18] Speaker 3: Um, If it takes weeks, they're being ridiculous. Like, I don't... Wow,
[29:25] Speaker 3: that seems crazy to me, if it would take weeks.
[29:28] Speaker 2: I will tell you this, though.
[29:29] Speaker 3: If I'm talking to people, you know, in the league
[29:32] Speaker 3: office there, nobody knows.
[29:37] Speaker 2: This one is wrapped up tight. It seems to be.
[29:40] Speaker 3: A very need-to-know situation on what's going on with this investigation.
[29:48] Speaker 3: From the conversations I was having while I was around there,
[29:52] Speaker 3: the Clippers are unequivocal. They didn't do anything wrong. They firmly, firmly,
[29:59] Speaker 3: firmly are riding out the idea they didn't do anything wrong.
[30:01] Speaker 3: If you saw the union statement about it, they are unequivocal.
[30:06] Speaker 3: Kawhi didn't do anything wrong. I have no idea if
[30:09] Speaker 3: that is true, but ordinarily there's a level of equivocation
[30:13] Speaker 3: that you see from guilty parties that hasn't come from anybody.
[30:17] Speaker 3: We've seen what bombers had to say about this. That's
[30:21] Speaker 3: just for whatever it's worth. Nobody seems to think that
[30:24] Speaker 3: trade is actually going to be on hold.
[30:27] Speaker 2: For whatever it's worth. But I can't believe this is
[30:31] Speaker 2: still going on, right?
[30:33] Speaker 3: It's gone on so long that people are now more
[30:36] Speaker 3: loudly saying, in public at least, do we care? You know,
[30:42] Speaker 3: I think that's the big question, that in the end,
[30:45] Speaker 3: I don't think there's going to be a satisfying ending
[30:47] Speaker 3: to this for anybody. I think that if the league
[30:50] Speaker 3: says nothing happened, there will be many people who find
[30:53] Speaker 3: it to be conspiratorial.
[30:55] Speaker 1: Um.
[30:56] Speaker 3: I think if they say something happened and the punishment
[31:00] Speaker 3: is not heavy, then people are going to say or
[31:04] Speaker 3: a certain segment of people will say you're just defending
[31:07] Speaker 3: Steve Ballmer. If they do say something happened and the
[31:11] Speaker 3: penalty is harsh, those of us with good sense are
[31:13] Speaker 3: going to say, who cares?
[31:16] Speaker 2: Right. Like in the end, deep down.
[31:19] Speaker 3: They paid their max guy a little extra money. That
[31:23] Speaker 3: is what leads me to believe, by the way, that
[31:25] Speaker 3: nothing happened because I've never understood what the incentives.
[31:29] Speaker 2: Were for the Clippers to do all this.
[31:32] Speaker 3: To pay extra money to somebody that nobody else could
[31:35] Speaker 3: pay as much money as they did.
[31:37] Speaker 1: Right.
[31:38] Speaker 4: It's not a bidding war.
[31:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
[31:40] Speaker 3: That's the part that nobody can explain to me. Like
[31:43] Speaker 3: when Joe Smith, the legendary cap circumvention situation, and also
[31:47] Speaker 3: the Clippers tried it with DeAndre Jordan, but that period,
[31:50] Speaker 3: Joe Smith and DeAndre Jordan, those are the guys that
[31:53] Speaker 3: you circumvent the cap for.
[31:54] Speaker 2: And I know that sounds crazy. You're like, those guys
[31:56] Speaker 2: aren't even that good. Yes, exactly.
[31:59] Speaker 3: You get those guys to take a little bit, you
[32:01] Speaker 3: get those guys to take less money for the cap
[32:04] Speaker 3: and then you figure out Because.
[32:06] Speaker 4: Your max guys get a max slot and they get
[32:08] Speaker 4: a max slot.
[32:09] Speaker 3: This is, yes, this is exactly what we're saying, right?
[32:12] Speaker 3: You tell that guy, come here for a little bit extra,
[32:13] Speaker 3: a little bit, don't worry, we got you, right? Because
[32:16] Speaker 3: somebody else is offering them more. Nobody else is offering
[32:20] Speaker 3: more for a guy that badly wanted to play in
[32:22] Speaker 3: Southern California.
[32:23] Speaker 2: Like that's my only thing, right?
[32:26] Speaker 3: When it really comes down to the end, I think
[32:28] Speaker 3: it was a very interesting story when it came out
[32:31] Speaker 3: and Pablo's presentation of it caught a lot of attention.
[32:34] Speaker 3: but I do think as more time passed that more
[32:37] Speaker 3: people were kind of like, yeah, I mean, I.
[32:42] Speaker 4: Guess, right?
[32:43] Speaker 3: Like this, I don't think this is the corruption that's
[32:45] Speaker 3: really driving anybody crazy, but I am intrigued by the
[32:51] Speaker 3: fact that the accused parties are so unequivocal in saying
[32:56] Speaker 3: we have nothing to hide.
[32:58] Speaker 2: There's no, they're there.
[33:00] Speaker 3: Um, But I don't know what Adam can or can't
[33:03] Speaker 3: tell the law firm that's in it. But there's no
[33:06] Speaker 3: reason for this to continue. And especially if it's like
[33:08] Speaker 3: holding up this trade. I think it was Shams that
[33:10] Speaker 3: reported that when the Clippers were playing in the summer
[33:14] Speaker 3: league games, the guys they got in the trade were sitting.
[33:17] Speaker 2: On the Clippers bench. Right.
[33:18] Speaker 4: And they still are.
[33:19] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[33:19] Speaker 2: Nobody thinks this trade is getting held up.
[33:21] Speaker 4: I mean, Kawhi was in Toronto for.
[33:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, they did for the Kyle Lowry thing.
[33:26] Speaker 1: Right.
[33:26] Speaker 2: But that was before the word had gotten out. Right.
[33:28] Speaker 2: That the trade was on hold.
[33:29] Speaker 1: Right.
[33:30] Speaker 4: Right.
[33:31] Speaker 3: But the long and the short is nobody thinks this
[33:33] Speaker 3: trade is going to get held up. which is an
[33:35] Speaker 3: indicator to me that nobody thinks anything.
[33:38] Speaker 2: Big is going to happen as a result of this.
[33:42] Speaker 2: We're going to see, right?
[33:44] Speaker 3: But the NBA, it's time to call it.
[33:48] Speaker 2: It's time to street lights on time to come home.
[33:51] Speaker 4: All right. You talked about this a couple of times,
[33:53] Speaker 4: but the McGregor fight was in Vegas the week and
[33:55] Speaker 4: you were there and it didn't last very long. Conor
[33:57] Speaker 4: McGregor made it about one minute until having to leave
[34:00] Speaker 4: with an apparent knee injury. His first fight in over
[34:04] Speaker 4: five years. Doesn't make it over two minutes against Max Holloway. Bo,
[34:10] Speaker 4: is this the last we see of Conor McGregor?
[34:12] Speaker 2: I mean, one would hope.
[34:14] Speaker 3: But if he comes back and say he gonna fight,
[34:17] Speaker 3: you think people will watch? Because I think they would.
[34:22] Speaker 3: Question number two, what his money looking like? Like, I
[34:25] Speaker 3: don't know how this goes for the MMA guys versus the.
[34:27] Speaker 2: Boxers, but when you need a little money.
[34:31] Speaker 3: Come on, ding, and throw hands one more time. By
[34:33] Speaker 3: the way, I don't... Ryan, you ever been in Vegas
[34:35] Speaker 3: for a fight weekend?
[34:36] Speaker 4: I have not.
[34:37] Speaker 3: Okay, so I have been in Vegas for a couple
[34:40] Speaker 3: of fight weekends, but never for the fight.
[34:42] Speaker 2: I was just there. And so you just get the vibes.
[34:45] Speaker 3: On the floor in all the casinos of what happened
[34:48] Speaker 3: because you're not even really paying attention. And the fight
[34:51] Speaker 3: goes on early in the evening West Coast time because
[34:54] Speaker 3: of East Coast television. So it'll be like 9 o'clock,
[34:57] Speaker 3: 10 o'clock, whatever.
[34:58] Speaker 4: And they all get out of there.
[34:59] Speaker 3: Yeah, you get out of concert and they all get
[35:00] Speaker 3: out of there. So like, for example, I was there
[35:03] Speaker 3: once when Canelo lost a fight. and buddy it was
[35:05] Speaker 3: some unpleasant mexicans walking around there some sad some mad
[35:09] Speaker 3: i didn't want to i didn't want to get in
[35:11] Speaker 3: the way of any of them but i'm just walking
[35:13] Speaker 3: around and the mcgregorites i just they just look i
[35:17] Speaker 3: don't know not plus like it was very difficult to
[35:20] Speaker 3: get what the energy was only to find out that
[35:22] Speaker 3: they do they kicked his knee off that's an old
[35:25] Speaker 3: man injury if it has ever ever been an old
[35:28] Speaker 3: man injury but i bet he still got his check.
[35:30] Speaker 4: Um Speaking of MMA and boxers, I think we're going
[35:33] Speaker 4: to see him box again against someone else who might
[35:36] Speaker 4: need some money pretty soon.
[35:38] Speaker 2: I mean, here's my question. Why is it not against
[35:40] Speaker 2: Jake Paul?
[35:42] Speaker 3: I don't know if Jake Paul fights white people, but
[35:45] Speaker 3: that seems to be the most obvious fight.
[35:47] Speaker 4: The one time he fought a white person, he lost.
[35:49] Speaker 3: Right, right.
[35:50] Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. That's right. Tyson Fury's brother.
[35:52] Speaker 1: Yes.
[35:53] Speaker 2: But I mean, I think this makes sense, right? Like
[35:55] Speaker 2: they're both amateur boxers.
[35:58] Speaker 4: McGregor will be a, will be a, I mean, if Tyson,
[36:01] Speaker 4: obviously Conor McGregor was never Mike Tyson, but Mike Tyson
[36:04] Speaker 4: is still a draw at over six.
[36:07] Speaker 2: I completely forgot that happened.
[36:10] Speaker 4: It happened multiple times.
[36:12] Speaker 2: I completely forgot that Jake Paul fought Mai Tais. Wow.
[36:17] Speaker 2: What is this world?
[36:20] Speaker 4: Where are we?
[36:20] Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
[36:22] Speaker 4: All right, Bo. A couple of voicemails. We had a
[36:31] Speaker 4: lot of people with Jalen Brown thoughts. Let's start there.
[36:36] Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Jalen Brown. I mean, we have
[36:40] Speaker 1: to quiet the nonsense around this tree.
[36:43] Speaker 6: When you're Scottie Pippen, but you think you're MJ, you
[36:48] Speaker 6: got to go.
[36:49] Speaker 2: And that's that.
[36:55] Speaker 3: I have to say, when you put it in those terms,
[36:57] Speaker 3: I was going to throw something out there about Jalen
[37:01] Speaker 3: Brown from when I was there. I saw some of
[37:03] Speaker 3: these quotes from these interviews that Jalen Brown has been doing,
[37:05] Speaker 3: and I don't want to do that right now.
[37:09] Speaker 1: I don't.
[37:12] Speaker 2: I will just say this very briefly. He is sounding
[37:18] Speaker 2: very familiar to me in a lot of these interviews.
[37:22] Speaker 2: And he sounds very familiar because I have taught college
[37:25] Speaker 2: freshmen before. And I don't mean that as an insult,
[37:29] Speaker 2: but like there's that energy, there's that kind of curiosity.
[37:32] Speaker 2: He's got these opinions, but they clearly haven't been tested yet.
[37:35] Speaker 4: Right like he has more books than people who went
[37:37] Speaker 4: to his high school but not more books than people
[37:39] Speaker 4: he's around.
[37:39] Speaker 3: Now oh yeah yeah you know i was thinking about
[37:41] Speaker 3: the book reading part right is that these he has
[37:44] Speaker 3: a lot of thoughts that have not been approached with
[37:47] Speaker 3: rigor so like his whole thing about um the agent
[37:50] Speaker 3: model is broken because guys go broke i was like
[37:53] Speaker 3: that's not how that works like that's not those guys
[37:56] Speaker 3: job you don't okay so now you don't have an
[37:59] Speaker 3: agent is that going to stop you from going broke
[38:01] Speaker 3: right like that doesn't like Again, these are things that
[38:04] Speaker 3: make sense on their face, and then they just don't
[38:07] Speaker 3: hold up to but so many questions. And that's what
[38:11] Speaker 3: I've been seeing in him is like, oh, okay, I
[38:13] Speaker 3: get it. It's not like there's nothing there, but that's
[38:17] Speaker 3: how it is when you teach college freshmen, right? You
[38:19] Speaker 3: come in and you got all these ideas, and then
[38:21] Speaker 3: the professor sons you, and then you get better and
[38:24] Speaker 3: it builds you back.
[38:25] Speaker 2: Up, right?
[38:26] Speaker 3: And I just don't think he's been in that circumstance,
[38:28] Speaker 3: but that's the discussion. The thing I wanted to bring
[38:31] Speaker 3: up about him that I did think was interesting and
[38:33] Speaker 3: important to point out is that and for me on
[38:35] Speaker 3: my end, because I think some people misunderstand me. I
[38:38] Speaker 3: think his heart is in the right place on all
[38:40] Speaker 3: of these things. I think what he wants and I
[38:42] Speaker 3: think I think he has identified the way I see things.
[38:45] Speaker 2: He is properly identified for the most part. Who are
[38:48] Speaker 2: the good guys and who are the bad guys, right?
[38:50] Speaker 3: I think he has identified the causes that matter the most.
[38:54] Speaker 3: I don't think he's always as equipped in conversation, but
[38:57] Speaker 3: I do think it's important to note that I would
[39:00] Speaker 3: say that he and I are on the same side,
[39:02] Speaker 3: and I don't want to be but so mean towards
[39:04] Speaker 3: somebody that's on a different side. And so I was
[39:07] Speaker 3: talking to somebody who's around the Celtics, a couple of Celtics,
[39:12] Speaker 3: and he made a very good point that I hadn't
[39:15] Speaker 3: thought about.
[39:15] Speaker 2: And he was like, let me tell you this.
[39:16] Speaker 3: He's like black Boston is going to really miss Jalen Brown,
[39:20] Speaker 3: like that he went out of his way to develop
[39:23] Speaker 3: a relationship with the black population of Boston in a
[39:29] Speaker 3: way that. I don't want to say is unprecedented because
[39:32] Speaker 3: that's too far, but it's not a guarantee.
[39:34] Speaker 2: From members of the Celtics, right? And so he's their guy.
[39:37] Speaker 3: So when it comes around next year and he's going
[39:40] Speaker 3: to Boston Garden and he's getting booed and people are
[39:43] Speaker 3: talking about, oh, but you know how Boston feels, da-da-da, that's.
[39:46] Speaker 2: Some of Boston, right?
[39:47] Speaker 3: Like, I got into an argument on the internet many
[39:49] Speaker 3: years ago with a guy, and if you know anything,
[39:51] Speaker 3: you'll know who I'm talking about, but don't be messy.
[39:55] Speaker 3: And I felt like we had a great misunderstanding. It
[39:58] Speaker 3: just got to be like, oh, man, this is one
[39:59] Speaker 3: of these cats that really rides for Boston and really
[40:01] Speaker 3: loves Boston, right?
[40:02] Speaker 2: And I get it.
[40:03] Speaker 3: And I realized what the issue was. And it's, he's
[40:05] Speaker 3: a black dude from Boston and they feel very erased.
[40:09] Speaker 3: They're like, when people talk about Boston and who lives there,
[40:12] Speaker 3: you know, who, I mean, I don't have to tell
[40:13] Speaker 3: you the image that you get in your head. There
[40:15] Speaker 3: are a lot of black people in Boston. It's one
[40:18] Speaker 3: of those cities though, where you don't meet black Bostonians
[40:21] Speaker 3: outside of Boston.
[40:23] Speaker 2: There's a lot of cities like that Cleveland. Like how
[40:25] Speaker 2: often do you meet people from Cleveland outside of Cleveland?
[40:27] Speaker 4: That's fair.
[40:28] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[40:29] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[40:29] Speaker 2: You know what it means?
[40:29] Speaker 3: And so, That dude, I think that his anger was misdirected,
[40:36] Speaker 3: but I understood the source of his anger was the
[40:38] Speaker 3: idea that we are here and you just keep acting
[40:40] Speaker 3: like everybody in Boston sounds like that. Even though y'all
[40:45] Speaker 3: talk like them too. But still, I got where he
[40:48] Speaker 3: was coming from on that. But anyway, this would be
[40:50] Speaker 3: an example of why somebody like that would wind up
[40:53] Speaker 3: being frustrated because there is a whole section of Boston
[40:56] Speaker 3: that I guarantee is going to be very sad to
[40:59] Speaker 3: see Jalen Brown go. but they're not going to be
[41:01] Speaker 3: the ones booing his black ass to smithereens when the
[41:04] Speaker 3: Sixers come back to the garden.
[41:06] Speaker 1: All right.
[41:06] Speaker 4: We had some more Jalen Brown thoughts.
[41:10] Speaker 5: What's up, Bobani?
[41:11] Speaker 4: What's up, Brian? This is Jordan and Charlotte.
[41:13] Speaker 6: I just listened to the pod with Burnham and Maxwell,
[41:16] Speaker 6: and I got to say, I really enjoyed it. You
[41:18] Speaker 6: definitely got to bring him back on as a guest,
[41:21] Speaker 6: but I do have to say Jalen Brown and his
[41:24] Speaker 6: top five ridiculous, what I call Vern ridiculous to his face.
[41:29] Speaker 4: Absolutely not.
[41:30] Speaker 2: But, That's ridiculous.
[41:32] Speaker 6: Anyway, that's not why I called. I counted 57 fucks, motherfuckers,
[41:38] Speaker 6: motherfuckers from Vern, and I just wanted to ask, after
[41:41] Speaker 6: a call like that, after a recording like that, do
[41:44] Speaker 6: you got to call mom and warn her before she listens? Anyway,
[41:47] Speaker 6: I appreciate what you do. I've been a long-time listener
[41:50] Speaker 6: and look forward to your continued success. Appreciate it.
[41:52] Speaker 1: Thanks.
[41:55] Speaker 2: Number one, that number is lower than I expected.
[41:58] Speaker 4: You have to remember that's more than one a minute.
[42:01] Speaker 3: And yet and still, it is lower than I expected.
[42:06] Speaker 3: I actually probably should have warned her. I forgot to.
[42:09] Speaker 2: I talked to her when I was in Vegas, so
[42:10] Speaker 2: we were talking about some other stuff. I did not
[42:12] Speaker 2: warn her.
[42:12] Speaker 3: First of all, Vernon sent an apology on Twitter. And
[42:17] Speaker 3: my mother sent me a text that said, Vernon Maxwell
[42:20] Speaker 3: needs to expand his vocabulary.
[42:22] Speaker 2: I showed her Vernon's apology, and she said, I accept.
[42:26] Speaker 2: I love how immediately everyone was like, oh, man, Bo's
[42:29] Speaker 2: mom's not going to like this.
[42:31] Speaker 3: She has absolutely become like the silent partner of this operation.
[42:36] Speaker 2: Everybody knows she's there. Everybody understands.
[42:38] Speaker 4: As she should be. All right. Here's another one. Hey, Bomani.
[42:42] Speaker 1: This is Edmund in Phoenix listening to the Danny Parkins
[42:46] Speaker 1: podcast and him reading from his suburban newspaper. I thought
[42:50] Speaker 1: of like, you know, some stories. What was the dumbest
[42:53] Speaker 1: thing ever? you've got the cops called on you for.
[42:56] Speaker 1: So this is what happened to me and my brother.
[42:59] Speaker 1: My grandmother lived in a retirement community called Saddle Bronc
[43:03] Speaker 1: in Tucson, Arizona. It was the worst, most boring place
[43:08] Speaker 1: in the world, but that's a separate story. Anyway, my
[43:11] Speaker 1: brother and I get hired to do some yard work
[43:14] Speaker 1: for one of her neighbors, you know, make a couple
[43:16] Speaker 1: bucks when we're in high school. Anyway, we're in her
[43:19] Speaker 1: front yard and we're trimming down grapefruit and and collecting
[43:23] Speaker 1: the grapefruit so that we could either, you know, donate
[43:25] Speaker 1: it or get rid of it or something. We finished
[43:27] Speaker 1: the job. My brother and I are walking back to
[43:31] Speaker 1: my grandmother's house from her neighbor's house, and this woman cop,
[43:37] Speaker 1: you know, for this retirement community, rolls up on us
[43:39] Speaker 1: in a golf cart, and, like, she's in the movie Heat.
[43:43] Speaker 1: She thinks that we are pretty much, you know, like,
[43:46] Speaker 1: we need to get on the ground, you know, put
[43:48] Speaker 1: our hands behind our back, And she rolls up on
[43:50] Speaker 1: us and she says, we got a report from a
[43:52] Speaker 1: neighbor that there were two high schoolers stealing grapefruit from
[43:57] Speaker 1: another person's yard. Anyway, we told them what happened. We
[44:00] Speaker 1: had to walk the security guard back to the neighbor
[44:05] Speaker 1: and knock on the door, tell them that we.
[44:07] Speaker 2: Were working for them.
[44:08] Speaker 1: And, like, you know, she had to, like, check it out.
[44:10] Speaker 1: But anyway, we got the retirement community cops called on
[44:15] Speaker 1: us for trimming grapefruit in someone's yard. Anyway, love the show,
[44:20] Speaker 1: love Danny Parkins reading out his newsletter or his newspaper.
[44:27] Speaker 2: Hey, and Ryan, that's what they did to Edmund.
[44:33] Speaker 4: Yes. Do you think the cops from Danny's neighborhood retire
[44:38] Speaker 4: and go become retirement cops in this place in Scottsdale?
[44:41] Speaker 3: That's a very good question, but I'd say it is,
[44:43] Speaker 3: but that was a reminder of, and it's very important, man,
[44:46] Speaker 3: old people ain't got no time to be thinking about this.
[44:51] Speaker 3: Old people ain't giving you no chance.
[44:54] Speaker 2: None. I'll just call the cops. I paid a lot
[44:58] Speaker 2: of taxes for those.
[44:59] Speaker 4: All right, here's our last one.
[45:01] Speaker 5: What's up, Bo? What's up, man?
[45:03] Speaker 1: Love the show.
[45:04] Speaker 5: Long time listener, first time caller. I wanted to call
[45:07] Speaker 5: about the favorite topic of the voicemail line. So back
[45:10] Speaker 5: in 2014, I changed jobs and I started doing some
[45:13] Speaker 5: district operations work. Originally, I was supposed to be supporting
[45:17] Speaker 5: one district manager in one district a couple days before
[45:20] Speaker 5: I started. My direct manager calls me. He's like, hey,
[45:22] Speaker 5: you're actually going to be supporting two districts and two
[45:25] Speaker 5: district managers. And so I asked him, did my predecessor leave?
[45:28] Speaker 1: And he says, no.
[45:29] Speaker 5: And then he says her name and just says she's
[45:31] Speaker 5: going to be moving to a different district, but she's
[45:34] Speaker 5: still going to train. So I'm like, OK, cool. First day,
[45:38] Speaker 5: I'm supposed to go meet with the second district manager
[45:40] Speaker 5: because I hadn't met her yet. It's in a black
[45:42] Speaker 5: part of Birmingham. Everyone in the office that I see
[45:46] Speaker 5: is a black person. And so based on the name
[45:49] Speaker 5: I got, this is living up to my expectations. And
[45:52] Speaker 5: so after we're finishing doing the paperwork, me and the
[45:56] Speaker 5: district manager are kind of just doing a small little
[45:58] Speaker 5: get-to-know-you chat, and she apologizes for springing it on me
[46:01] Speaker 5: last minute and says that after she heard about my interview,
[46:06] Speaker 5: she felt that I would be a better fit for
[46:07] Speaker 5: her team personality-wise. Now, that probably should have been a
[46:11] Speaker 5: clue as to what I was about to walk into,
[46:13] Speaker 5: but I didn't think anything of it. So we go
[46:15] Speaker 5: around the corner. to where my office is going to
[46:17] Speaker 5: be that I'm going to be splitting with my predecessor
[46:19] Speaker 5: for the time being. And when I walk in, I
[46:21] Speaker 5: see this older white lady in her late 40s. And
[46:25] Speaker 5: she looks like she could have stepped right out of
[46:27] Speaker 5: that old soap opera Dallas. And she stands up and
[46:31] Speaker 5: extends her hand and says, hi, I'm Jaquetta in the
[46:34] Speaker 5: thickest Alabama accent I've ever heard. And it took everything
[46:40] Speaker 5: in me not to look over at the district manager
[46:41] Speaker 5: and be like, are you serious? But after five minutes
[46:45] Speaker 5: with her, I understood why I was a better personality fit.
[46:48] Speaker 5: If you know, you know. But as a bonus, I've
[46:51] Speaker 5: known two white Andres in my life. The first I
[46:53] Speaker 5: used to work with, he was late 40s. This is
[46:56] Speaker 5: like 2011. He went by Andy, one of my current
[46:59] Speaker 5: friends who's in his 30s. He goes by Andre. He's
[47:02] Speaker 5: a white Andre. And I told him that I was
[47:05] Speaker 5: going to make this call. And if you guys picked it,
[47:07] Speaker 5: I was going to play it for him. So if
[47:09] Speaker 5: y'all do, he's probably going to laugh. Love the show.
[47:14] Speaker 2: He tried to go with Andy, huh?
[47:16] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[47:17] Speaker 2: He tried to go with Andy.
[47:19] Speaker 3: So the thing about white Andre also is white Andre
[47:22] Speaker 3: can be French, right?
[47:24] Speaker 4: I have a cousin who's white Andre, and that's where
[47:27] Speaker 4: I'm from.
[47:28] Speaker 2: That's right.
[47:29] Speaker 3: He's not a direct homie, but shout out to homie
[47:32] Speaker 3: Cedric at the hat shop in New Orleans.
[47:34] Speaker 2: He is Cedric.
[47:35] Speaker 3: And honestly, I didn't realize it's Meyers Hat Shop down
[47:38] Speaker 3: there in the French Quarter.
[47:38] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[47:39] Speaker 2: Or not in the French Quarter. It's right on St.
[47:41] Speaker 1: Charles.
[47:42] Speaker 3: But I didn't realize that Cedric was like a member
[47:47] Speaker 3: of the family. I thought he just worked there because
[47:49] Speaker 3: his name was Cedric.
[47:52] Speaker 2: But, you know, we got that.
[47:53] Speaker 3: We throw that French out there. And then it's like, oh, OK,
[47:57] Speaker 3: anything is possible. I wonder if the people in France
[48:00] Speaker 3: like realize that me and my folks decided to take
[48:06] Speaker 3: on their names like that.
[48:09] Speaker 4: Probably wasn't what they had in mind, but, you know.
[48:11] Speaker 2: No, I just want, well, you know, they like us.
[48:14] Speaker 3: You know, like they think we're super hip. They love
[48:17] Speaker 3: Josephine Baker.
[48:18] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, so there's that.
[48:22] Speaker 3: But yeah, Jaquetta, hey man, I'm just saying we a
[48:27] Speaker 3: lot more alike than we are different.
[48:30] Speaker 2: Is that fair to say?
[48:31] Speaker 4: I would agree with you.
[48:33] Speaker 3: I think we a lot more alike than we give
[48:35] Speaker 3: ourselves credit for being.
[48:36] Speaker 2: Things that we keep in mind.
[48:38] Speaker 3: But ladies and gentlemen, Thanks so much for joining us
[48:40] Speaker 3: here on The Right Time. We do this a few
[48:42] Speaker 3: days a week during the summer. Ryan Brumley handles everything
[48:45] Speaker 3: behind the scenes.
[48:45] Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.
[48:46] Speaker 3: Hit the voicemail line, 323-596-7767. Remember, follow The Right Time. Subscribe, like,
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[48:58] Speaker 3: couple of days.
[48:59] Speaker 2: Take it easy.

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