# NBA Summer League Pitfalls, Knicks: Finals or Bust?, Drake's London Lies

An episode of [The Right Time with Bomani Jones](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/982639043), 18 Jul 2025, 28 min.

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Live from Summer League in Las Vegas, Bomani Jones is joined by Kid Mero. They discuss some of the unseen activities of NBA players at Summer League (2:49), react to Clipse's newest Album Let God Sort Em Out (16:33), Drake's latest shenanigans overseas (19:56) and break down the New York Knicks' chances of winning the NBA Finals. (23:31) . . . Subscribe to Supercast for Ad-Free Episodes: https://righttime.supercast.com/ Buy 'The Right Time' merch: http://therighttimebomani.com/ Subscribe to The Right Time with Bomani Jones on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Tik Tok for all the best moments from the show. Download Full Podcast Here: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6N7fDvgNz2EPDIOm49aj7M?si=FCb5EzTyTYuIy9-fWs4rQA&nd=1&utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-right-time-with-bomani-jones/id982639043?utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social Follow The Right Time with Bomani Jones on Social Media: http://lnk.to/therighttime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:05] Speaker 1: Please make so much noise for the one and only
[0:09] Speaker 1: host of the Right Time podcast, Bomani Jones. And of course,
[0:18] Speaker 1: we can't have anything wave sports and entertainment related without
[0:23] Speaker 1: one of the great content.
[0:25] Speaker 2: Creators of our time.
[0:26] Speaker 1: And when I say he's a legend, he's a legend
[0:27] Speaker 1: in every sense of the word. The Bronx's own, the
[0:31] Speaker 1: living legend. You know him, you love him. Make some noise,
[0:35] Speaker 1: Las Vegas, for the one and only, the Kid Mero!
[0:44] Speaker 2: What's going on, big dog?
[0:45] Speaker 3: What's up, baby? Vegas, what's good?
[0:48] Speaker 2: Wow. You handled that tight-ass turn better than I did.
[0:51] Speaker 3: Yo, fam.
[0:52] Speaker 4: My only thing for this whole show, don't fall down
[0:55] Speaker 4: on the way onto the stage.
[0:57] Speaker 2: Don't bust your ass. That shit is treacherous, bro.
[1:00] Speaker 4: Dude, I did a show for a couple years that
[1:02] Speaker 4: had a walk-in in front of a crowd, and my
[1:04] Speaker 4: whole thing the whole way was, just don't fall down.
[1:07] Speaker 3: Just don't bust your ass.
[1:08] Speaker 4: Because there's always wires and shit on the floor. There's
[1:11] Speaker 4: always something.
[1:12] Speaker 2: Tape.
[1:12] Speaker 4: And falling is always funny.
[1:14] Speaker 2: It's going to make motherfuckers laugh. Y'all know that Kelsey
[1:17] Speaker 2: Grammer viral video, you know what I'm saying, where he
[1:19] Speaker 2: just fell off the stage.
[1:19] Speaker 3: He's like, fuck, oh my God.
[1:21] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
[1:23] Speaker 3: That lives with you forever.
[1:24] Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm not that good at laughing at myself,
[1:27] Speaker 4: you know. Like, That's going to be, you fall down
[1:30] Speaker 4: and they catch it. That's you forever.
[1:32] Speaker 3: But you see what it is? You do it. It's like,
[1:34] Speaker 3: oh shit, Bo fell down. I do it.
[1:36] Speaker 2: They're like, yo, did he do that to get a laugh?
[1:37] Speaker 2: He's trying to be funny. This motherfucker just falling all
[1:43] Speaker 2: over the place.
[1:43] Speaker 1: No.
[1:43] Speaker 2: I'm 40 years old, bro.
[1:44] Speaker 3: I can't bust my ass for y'all to laugh, bro.
[1:46] Speaker 3: I'm not down bad like that.
[1:48] Speaker 2: Because it hurts too bad. It hurts way too much.
[1:50] Speaker 4: There was a time when you would have done that, though.
[1:53] Speaker 2: 100%.
[1:54] Speaker 4: Put the check in front of me, bro. I'm doing
[1:55] Speaker 4: a barrel roll in this motherfucker. So how many times
[1:58] Speaker 4: have you done Summer League?
[2:00] Speaker 2: This is the third one?
[2:03] Speaker 3: Second one? I smoke a lot, y'all. You know what
[2:05] Speaker 3: I'm saying?
[2:05] Speaker 2: So there's going to be a lot of questions that
[2:06] Speaker 2: are like, can you help me answer this? You're like,
[2:10] Speaker 2: I don't know you, fam. Why you phoning a friend?
[2:13] Speaker 2: We're not friends yet.
[2:15] Speaker 3: We got, okay, good.
[2:17] Speaker 2: So second and third, you know what I'm saying? But
[2:18] Speaker 2: what I will say about Vegas, I love Vegas. Because
[2:21] Speaker 2: I'm a degenerate gambler. But Yeah, shout out to Monday.
[2:26] Speaker 2: Who did that? The gentleman gambling, yeah. Who did that?
[2:29] Speaker 3: Yeah, listen.
[2:30] Speaker 2: That's how I feel inside when I hit on 15.
[2:35] Speaker 3: And it's like, Blackjack. I'm like, whoo, yeah.
[2:38] Speaker 2: You ever seen a dude that's getting a double sake
[2:40] Speaker 2: in his mouth and his girl's looking at him questioningly?
[2:42] Speaker 3: You know what I mean? That's me at the back.
[2:44] Speaker 5: Yay!
[2:45] Speaker 2: Blackjack.
[2:46] Speaker 4: I was playing Blackjack today with a current NBA point
[2:51] Speaker 4: guard and that was a poor decision maker. There's no
[2:56] Speaker 4: way in the world that I would have trusted my
[2:57] Speaker 4: offense to do with the moves that he was making.
[2:59] Speaker 2: There's none whatsoever.
[3:01] Speaker 4: Like the risk calculus was so bad at every turn.
[3:05] Speaker 4: And then the best part was he was trying to
[3:08] Speaker 4: act like he was not an NBA player.
[3:11] Speaker 3: All right.
[3:11] Speaker 2: So you're about 6'5. It's summer league.
[3:15] Speaker 4: And look, There's a lot of dudes that are 6'5
[3:17] Speaker 4: walking around here this week that are not NBA players.
[3:21] Speaker 4: They play in the NBA Summer League, which is not
[3:23] Speaker 4: the same thing. Those dudes, however, do not have all.
[3:27] Speaker 2: $ 100, 000 chains.
[3:27] Speaker 4: No. And so he's sitting there and he's playing. And
[3:31] Speaker 4: I feel like he's trying to lay low, but I
[3:33] Speaker 4: had something to say to him. So I try to
[3:35] Speaker 4: say it in some sort of code. And somehow this
[3:37] Speaker 4: is working. And the white people did not realize that
[3:39] Speaker 4: he was an NBA basketball player. But the whole way,
[3:42] Speaker 4: I'm like, you can't possibly think you're fooling anybody right now.
[3:46] Speaker 2: Listen, bro, being that height, that's the thing about the NBA. Like,
[3:50] Speaker 2: if you're a basketball player, good luck blending in, bro.
[3:53] Speaker 4: Right.
[3:54] Speaker 3: Unless you're in the backcourt.
[3:55] Speaker 4: Right.
[3:55] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
[3:56] Speaker 3: Like, if you're 6'8, you can't blend in no fucking where.
[3:58] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[3:59] Speaker 4: Your hope is what happened with us when we were
[4:01] Speaker 4: walking in earlier and Rudy Gay was walking out as
[4:04] Speaker 4: we were walking in. And I did not realize it
[4:06] Speaker 4: was Rudy Gay because I wasn't looking up. It was
[4:09] Speaker 4: like somebody had cut the camera off. And it was
[4:11] Speaker 4: just like, oh, what's up? Oh, damn, was that Rudy Gay?
[4:12] Speaker 2: Yo, what's up, nipples?
[4:13] Speaker 4: And I had to apologize for it because it felt
[4:15] Speaker 4: like I was rude. But it's like when you walk
[4:16] Speaker 4: down 34th Street and you don't know you walked past
[4:18] Speaker 4: the Empire State Building because the motherfucker's right there.
[4:21] Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
[4:21] Speaker 4: Right, like unless you're doing that.
[4:23] Speaker 3: Oh, shit, the Mets won.
[4:24] Speaker 4: Right, but this whole two-week period is like basketball road
[4:29] Speaker 4: trip bingo. you just see all these faces and all
[4:33] Speaker 4: these names that you have forgotten about. I saw Sleepy
[4:36] Speaker 4: Floyd walking through a casino today. And every time I
[4:42] Speaker 4: see Sleepy Floyd, my brother has a friend who was
[4:45] Speaker 4: a basketball player of his era. and he has some
[4:48] Speaker 4: dispute with Sleepy Floyd that has led to him calling
[4:51] Speaker 4: him Creepy Floyd for the last 40 years.
[4:54] Speaker 2: So I'm like, Creepy.
[4:55] Speaker 3: Yo, Creepy.
[4:55] Speaker 2: He can't stand Creepy.
[4:57] Speaker 4: And it has nothing to do with how Sleepy Floyd looks.
[4:59] Speaker 4: He just had some beef with Sleepy Floyd. And it
[5:02] Speaker 4: took everything in me not to scream out Creepy.
[5:04] Speaker 3: Creepy. Yo, Creepy.
[5:06] Speaker 2: Creepy would have whooped my ass. What up?
[5:07] Speaker 4: Can you imagine some dude that doesn't know you, that's
[5:10] Speaker 4: not actually your friend, just calling you Creepy in public,
[5:12] Speaker 4: thinking it's cute?
[5:15] Speaker 2: Fam, listen, what's going to happen after that is going
[5:18] Speaker 2: to end up on a lot of different blogs.
[5:20] Speaker 3: Jason Lee's going to be talking about this shit. Yes.
[5:22] Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Yes.
[5:23] Speaker 4: But, like, I saw Joel Anthony at the Park MGM yesterday.
[5:26] Speaker 3: God damn.
[5:27] Speaker 2: Right.
[5:28] Speaker 4: Who has thought of that? Who has, like, thought of
[5:29] Speaker 4: Joel Anthony?
[5:30] Speaker 2: Name a random. But that's who you see at Summer League.
[5:33] Speaker 4: You just have a whole bunch of, like, you try
[5:34] Speaker 4: not to stare, but you try to figure out who
[5:36] Speaker 4: this person is.
[5:36] Speaker 3: Yo, nigga, look. This is Ronnie Turiaz. Yeah, yeah. Right, right.
[5:39] Speaker 4: They're all, like, this is basketball family reunion. It is
[5:43] Speaker 4: like the best part of this weekend.
[5:45] Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's because you see people, like you said,
[5:48] Speaker 2: that are on the cusp of being an NBA player. Like, yo,
[5:51] Speaker 2: I'm on the summer league. I'm on the practice squad.
[5:53] Speaker 2: And then you see motherfuckers that have commercials.
[5:55] Speaker 3: Yes.
[5:56] Speaker 2: Trying to blend in with the common folk.
[5:59] Speaker 4: And number three, which is, and I've heard people talk
[6:02] Speaker 4: about this many times, that when the guys come in
[6:05] Speaker 4: for summer league, they give you, in many cases, their
[6:08] Speaker 4: per diem up front. And the lecture is given to
[6:12] Speaker 4: these very young men This is your whole entire per diem.
[6:15] Speaker 4: If you spend it all now, you're not going to
[6:17] Speaker 4: have any money to eat, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.
[6:19] Speaker 4: And of course, invariably, there's somebody who messes up and
[6:22] Speaker 4: blows the whole thing. But I was sitting at a table, man,
[6:26] Speaker 4: this was a couple of years ago. And I watched
[6:28] Speaker 4: this dude. He had to be no more than 22
[6:30] Speaker 4: years old. And he definitely put his literal last $ 25
[6:37] Speaker 4: on the table to play one single solitary hand of blackjack.
[6:42] Speaker 4: and it was not a crispy 20 that he pulled out.
[6:45] Speaker 4: That thing had been through the laundry, it had made
[6:47] Speaker 4: some moves, and I'm watching him as he puts this
[6:50] Speaker 4: money down and he asks for this chip, and I'm
[6:52] Speaker 4: looking at the dealer like, come on, man, you can't
[6:53] Speaker 4: do this.
[6:54] Speaker 2: There's no way in the world. He was at the
[6:57] Speaker 2: table for 15 seconds, tops.
[7:00] Speaker 4: But he just felt like, hey man, I'm in Las Vegas,
[7:02] Speaker 4: I'm an NBA player for a couple of days, and
[7:05] Speaker 4: he had $ 25 worth of fun. And $ 25 worth of
[7:06] Speaker 4: fun in Las Vegas is no fun. It's not fun
[7:08] Speaker 4: at all.
[7:08] Speaker 2: Also, I'm over here ready to judge, but I'm like, yo,
[7:15] Speaker 2: you give a 20-year-old Mero talking about, yo, here's a
[7:17] Speaker 2: couple Gs, here's your per diem, don't blow it all
[7:20] Speaker 2: at once.
[7:20] Speaker 3: Bro, you know how much atmosphere models there is out here?
[7:24] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? And y'all are like, what
[7:27] Speaker 2: the fuck? Atmosphere models, what is that? That's prostitution, y'all.
[7:32] Speaker 2: They out here selling pussy. You know what I'm saying?
[7:35] Speaker 2: At an alarming rate. You know what I'm saying? It's crazy,
[7:38] Speaker 2: god damn, bro. I'm just walking through the casino like, shit,
[7:42] Speaker 2: I just wanna play three card poker, bro. I don't
[7:44] Speaker 2: want you to feed me a cigarette. Yeah, that's a
[7:47] Speaker 2: whole nother Vegas game.
[7:50] Speaker 4: The dudes who come to Vegas and think they just
[7:53] Speaker 4: had the luckiest night of their lives only to be
[7:56] Speaker 4: hit with an invoice.
[8:00] Speaker 2: Oh, you thought Shady was hanging around with you? No,
[8:02] Speaker 2: because you was on a roll at the blackjack table.
[8:03] Speaker 2: That's why, stupid. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you thought you was cute.
[8:07] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. This is just a fantasy. Don't worry about it, Papi. Like, yo.
[8:14] Speaker 2: Listen, man. Let me not get myself in trouble. Yeah,
[8:17] Speaker 2: but no, but this is.
[8:20] Speaker 4: It is also the hottest place I've ever been in
[8:21] Speaker 4: my life.
[8:22] Speaker 2: I grew up in Houston. Dog, it's disgusting.
[8:24] Speaker 3: Bo, it's disgusting. You're from Texas. You have experience with heat. Yes.
[8:29] Speaker 3: I'm Dominican.
[8:30] Speaker 2: I got experience with heat, humidity, and shit like that.
[8:32] Speaker 2: But I'm like, fam, this is different. This is like
[8:34] Speaker 2: open the oven and just put your head in that shit.
[8:36] Speaker 4: Right.
[8:37] Speaker 3: You know what I mean? There's no air movement.
[8:39] Speaker 4: But see, I also think that that's part of why
[8:41] Speaker 4: it becomes such a basketball fan reunion, because you can
[8:44] Speaker 4: get a good deal on a hotel.
[8:46] Speaker 2: This week, right?
[8:47] Speaker 4: Like, if you are a basketball type and you need
[8:50] Speaker 4: an excuse to come to Las Vegas and you would
[8:52] Speaker 4: like to do it at a more affordable price, Summer
[8:55] Speaker 4: League is here for you.
[8:57] Speaker 2: Let's make it happen. Yo, I'm 6'5. I can go left.
[9:00] Speaker 5: Yes.
[9:00] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Let's go, baby.
[9:02] Speaker 4: Well, I will tell you, I don't know if you
[9:04] Speaker 4: would peep this, but another fascinating Summer League demographic is,
[9:09] Speaker 4: and this is becoming more and more of a thing
[9:11] Speaker 4: in the last 10 or 15 years, which.
[9:13] Speaker 2: Is the NBA dad.
[9:15] Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
[9:16] Speaker 2: The NBA dad is all over.
[9:17] Speaker 4: I pulled up one year, me and Mike Smith, we
[9:19] Speaker 4: were over there at Thomas & Mac, and I'm going
[9:22] Speaker 4: to use, like, just throw a name out here so
[9:25] Speaker 4: as not to expose the dude.
[9:26] Speaker 2: And this dude comes up to me, he's probably.
[9:28] Speaker 4: I want to say that he's, like, fairly, like, older,
[9:32] Speaker 4: except all these guys' dads are my age now.
[9:35] Speaker 2: So I can't really say that anymore. It's like, man,
[9:37] Speaker 2: he must have been, like, 47. Ooh.
[9:38] Speaker 4: Feel as old as he used to. But he stopped
[9:42] Speaker 4: and he says to me, he just looks at me
[9:43] Speaker 4: and he goes.
[9:45] Speaker 4: I'm Jamal's daddy.
[9:46] Speaker 3: All right.
[9:51] Speaker 4: What is this supposed to mean to me? Who is Jamal,
[9:55] Speaker 4: first of all? Well, no, this is a fictional. Jamal
[9:58] Speaker 4: is not the actual, like we're not, it's not. the
[10:00] Speaker 4: actual Jamal. But if he said this, I don't give
[10:02] Speaker 4: a fuck what your name is, dog.
[10:03] Speaker 2: Right, right. Unless your name is whatever Prince used to
[10:05] Speaker 2: go by. There's a lot of those guys in this world.
[10:09] Speaker 4: But he said it to me, and I think he
[10:11] Speaker 4: said it to me like I was going to be like, oh,
[10:12] Speaker 4: hell yeah, that's what's up.
[10:13] Speaker 2: Like, no, we're not talking about an all-star.
[10:16] Speaker 5: Right?
[10:16] Speaker 4: Like, this wasn't like when I met Zion's daddy.
[10:18] Speaker 2: He said, I'm Zion's daddy. Oh, okay.
[10:21] Speaker 4: And it was 2019, so that was a lot cooler
[10:23] Speaker 4: back then than it was right now, right?
[10:25] Speaker 2: But that checked out. Like, oh shit, Zion's daddy. Oh,
[10:29] Speaker 2: he's about to pull up? Sure, I would love to
[10:31] Speaker 2: meet him.
[10:31] Speaker 3: Tell him to watch out for the atmosphere models.
[10:33] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[10:35] Speaker 3: Tell him to be careful. Keep your head on a swivel.
[10:37] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[10:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[10:39] Speaker 4: Actually, the more I think about this, the idea of
[10:40] Speaker 4: having Summer League here is really not a great idea.
[10:42] Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, why here? It's not a great idea.
[10:45] Speaker 3: It's in Wyoming. You want to keep niggas out of trouble, bro.
[10:48] Speaker 4: Is there anybody following the big Chinese gentleman for the
[10:52] Speaker 4: trailblazers around?
[10:53] Speaker 2: Have you seen him? The Chinese yoga? Oh, man.
[10:56] Speaker 3: I feel like you don't got to follow him around
[10:58] Speaker 3: because he follows himself around. You know what I'm saying?
[11:00] Speaker 4: I'm just saying I would watch the documentary of my
[11:03] Speaker 4: first trip to Vegas.
[11:03] Speaker 3: I thought you meant like a handler. Like, you're going
[11:05] Speaker 3: to while out at the pool.
[11:06] Speaker 4: Yeah, no, but I just want to see him walking
[11:09] Speaker 4: around here and how he takes all of this in.
[11:12] Speaker 4: I was here when Victor had his first one, and
[11:14] Speaker 4: in fact, I did not see it, but when he
[11:16] Speaker 4: had the thing with Britney Spears, when she rolled up
[11:18] Speaker 4: on him and it got ugly, I was in the
[11:20] Speaker 4: hotel like right around the same time that that happened,
[11:22] Speaker 4: and I am so mad I did not see that
[11:24] Speaker 4: with my own eyes.
[11:25] Speaker 3: He probably turned around, and that's the thing, when you
[11:27] Speaker 3: that tall.
[11:29] Speaker 2: Your eye line is very different from everybody else's.
[11:33] Speaker 3: Him and Britney Spears are different. She was looking at
[11:36] Speaker 3: his foreskin.
[11:37] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? She was like, yo, what's up?
[11:40] Speaker 3: Victor and the Wimbayama. You know what I'm saying?
[11:44] Speaker 2: That's different.
[11:44] Speaker 3: And also, she might have been awesome. You know what
[11:46] Speaker 3: I mean?
[11:47] Speaker 2: Because everybody in Vegas is awesome. Not except me. I'm
[11:50] Speaker 2: sober right now. I'm waiting until after the show. It's
[11:53] Speaker 2: very consummate professionals.
[11:55] Speaker 4: I just did not understand how anybody as famous as
[11:58] Speaker 4: she was thought to herself, I'm going to go run
[12:02] Speaker 4: that dude down from behind. This guy that is surrounded
[12:07] Speaker 4: by security, right? What's the worst thing that could possibly happen?
[12:11] Speaker 4: Especially if you haven't been that famous in a long time.
[12:14] Speaker 4: 1999 Britney Spears could probably get away with that, right?
[12:18] Speaker 4: 2023 Britney Spears, you call the cops.
[12:22] Speaker 2: That's a different Britney. It's a different animal. Also, Victor
[12:25] Speaker 2: was probably born when she was doing music videos.
[12:28] Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like to think about those sorts of things.
[12:31] Speaker 4: I've been looking at these birth years for these gentlemen
[12:34] Speaker 4: that are coming into the league.
[12:35] Speaker 1: Oh.
[12:36] Speaker 2: You was born, okay, dog, I was smoking a blunt
[12:39] Speaker 2: on my roof watching 9-11. You was being born.
[12:41] Speaker 4: Right, so it was one thing when it was like,
[12:43] Speaker 4: when you would say that, or like, oh, I was
[12:44] Speaker 4: in the eighth grade, or oh, da-da-da, and this is
[12:46] Speaker 4: when I look down and I'm like, I bought a
[12:49] Speaker 4: house that year. You know, like, the things become so
[12:53] Speaker 4: much more concrete. Like, and I don't really, every time
[12:57] Speaker 4: I see, like, a young dude make a mistake, I'm
[13:00] Speaker 4: much more, I want to start sentences with phrases like
[13:03] Speaker 4: young man.
[13:03] Speaker 2: Come on. Right?
[13:05] Speaker 4: Like, I'm not in a position to be as judgmental
[13:07] Speaker 4: as I used to be. I'm much more delicate.
[13:08] Speaker 3: Fam, having kids did that to me. Like, now I'm like,
[13:11] Speaker 3: all right, bro, I can't. All right, man. Listen, bro,
[13:14] Speaker 3: if you 14 now, like, I started smoking weed at 13, so.
[13:18] Speaker 3: Ipso facto, I'd be a hypocrite if I told you.
[13:21] Speaker 2: I just try to make the shit look as uncool
[13:23] Speaker 2: as possible because kids never think they dad is cool.
[13:25] Speaker 2: So I'd just be like, yo, I smoke mad weed.
[13:27] Speaker 1: Ah!
[13:28] Speaker 2: Ah! In his face.
[13:29] Speaker 3: He's just like, damn. Calm down, bro.
[13:31] Speaker 2: You hit him with the ipso facto. Yeah.
[13:32] Speaker 4: No, this is true NBA story. I went to Houston
[13:36] Speaker 4: this year because Bun B does.
[13:38] Speaker 2: His ninth rodeo, right?
[13:39] Speaker 4: And so I went and I got a room at
[13:42] Speaker 4: the Post Oak, the owner of the Rockets.
[13:43] Speaker 2: That's his hotel.
[13:44] Speaker 4: So I am assuming that through that contact is why
[13:47] Speaker 4: NBA teams, when they come to Houston, they stay at
[13:49] Speaker 4: the Four Seasons or they stay there. And so the
[13:51] Speaker 4: Pelicans were playing a game that night, and they were
[13:54] Speaker 4: staying there. I'm in the lobby. Trey Murphy walks in.
[13:56] Speaker 4: I had done some TV with him before, so I
[14:00] Speaker 4: stopped and I talked to him.
[14:01] Speaker 2: Okay, cool.
[14:02] Speaker 4: Fast forward a couple months. I see him somewhere else.
[14:05] Speaker 4: He sees me, and he does this shit.
[14:07] Speaker 3: What's going on, Unc?
[14:08] Speaker 2: And I'm like, hey, man. Hey, hey, hey.
[14:11] Speaker 4: Because my issue with Unc is very simple. Perhaps it
[14:14] Speaker 4: is affectionate, but it comes with no respect. I feel
[14:18] Speaker 4: like I've earned this respect at this point. Whatever happened
[14:21] Speaker 4: to sir?
[14:22] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Sir is Chris Elbow. Come on. No.
[14:25] Speaker 3: That's the southern gentleman in you.
[14:27] Speaker 4: I put in the work. I should get some sirs, right?
[14:30] Speaker 4: So he hits me with unk, and I try to
[14:32] Speaker 4: have a discussion about unk. He then tells me that
[14:36] Speaker 4: that day somebody saw him, talked to me, and stopped
[14:39] Speaker 4: and asked, and I quote, is that your dad? The
[14:44] Speaker 4: problem is I did the mathematics, and that was certainly
[14:49] Speaker 4: on the board.
[14:49] Speaker 2: You were like, uh, I was fucking. This was possible. Right.
[14:56] Speaker 2: In this era of my life, I was fucking.
[14:59] Speaker 4: But it would not have even required me to have
[15:01] Speaker 4: made a life-altering mistake.
[15:03] Speaker 2: It was on board. This was planned fucking. Right, right.
[15:07] Speaker 2: This was organized fucking.
[15:09] Speaker 4: It was perfectly reasonable that that could have been the case, right?
[15:13] Speaker 2: He's like, that was Bomani. And I'm like, damn, man.
[15:16] Speaker 2: This is where we are.
[15:17] Speaker 3: Bruh.
[15:18] Speaker 2: It's like Matthew McConaughey said in that fucking movie. They
[15:24] Speaker 2: stay 17, we get older. You know what I'm saying?
[15:26] Speaker 3: Everybody comes into the league.
[15:27] Speaker 4: Yeah, let's take that up a little higher to 17, buddy.
[15:34] Speaker 4: Let's get to something a little bit more comfortable.
[15:36] Speaker 3: 25?
[15:36] Speaker 2: Hey, that's way better. That's way, way, way, way. Depends
[15:41] Speaker 2: on how old you are. You know what I'm saying?
[15:43] Speaker 2: Because we've seen some football guys. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. No,
[15:49] Speaker 2: we're not. Yeah, okay.
[15:50] Speaker 4: I'm going to change the subject very quickly. Now, I
[15:53] Speaker 4: wanted to ask you about something because you and I,
[15:56] Speaker 4: we had a discussion on my podcast.
[15:58] Speaker 2: I guess this was about.
[16:00] Speaker 4: I guess it's a long time now, when GNX came out.
[16:02] Speaker 1: Yes.
[16:03] Speaker 4: And we were trying to explain to the youngsters what
[16:06] Speaker 4: mid actually is because they don't know what mid is
[16:09] Speaker 4: because they've never seen a seed in their lives. So
[16:12] Speaker 4: they have been told that mid means something is bad
[16:14] Speaker 4: when no, mid is perfectly serviceable and it'll get you high.
[16:19] Speaker 2: That's it. Right? Like that's the sentence.
[16:20] Speaker 4: That would explain mid that would justify that $ 30 eighth
[16:24] Speaker 4: that you purchased. It'll get you high. But there's nothing
[16:27] Speaker 4: wrong with it.
[16:28] Speaker 2: It's just fine.
[16:29] Speaker 4: So I don't know if you have been celebrating Clipsmas
[16:33] Speaker 4: with the rest of the internet over the last... See,
[16:36] Speaker 4: couldn't even finish my goddamn sentence.
[16:39] Speaker 2: Right? Couldn't even get to it, right?
[16:43] Speaker 3: Clipsmas is crazy.
[16:44] Speaker 2: Oh, no, it's been Clipsmas. It has been. They're loving it.
[16:48] Speaker 4: But there's certain groups and certain acts where the people
[16:53] Speaker 4: who love them will just go up in a very,
[16:55] Speaker 4: very particular way and they're the loudest and nothing else.
[16:58] Speaker 4: will be a substitute for them. And Clips is one
[17:01] Speaker 4: of them, right? Malice came back to get out there.
[17:04] Speaker 4: They're very happy about these things.
[17:06] Speaker 2: Okay, cool.
[17:07] Speaker 3: He don't curse a lot.
[17:09] Speaker 2: No. I thought it was good. Yeah. It's very good.
[17:13] Speaker 4: Can we normalize saying things.
[17:15] Speaker 2: Are good again? Because good has become an insult. Please, y'all.
[17:19] Speaker 3: Look, camera. Please, America. Good means good.
[17:23] Speaker 2: It was good.
[17:24] Speaker 3: Very good means very good. Y'all want everything to be
[17:27] Speaker 3: classic or garbage, bro. And that is an impossible fucking binary, gang.
[17:33] Speaker 2: It was good.
[17:34] Speaker 3: On the spectrum, it was very fucking good.
[17:36] Speaker 2: Okay?
[17:37] Speaker 3: Y'all calling it thriller. Relax.
[17:40] Speaker 4: This is what it was. Stacking with a basketball analogy.
[17:44] Speaker 4: If you've ever watched a very good basketball player who
[17:47] Speaker 4: can always get to their spots and make their shot,
[17:50] Speaker 4: every possession... They would wind up with the ball right
[17:54] Speaker 4: there at the elbow. They know exactly what to do
[17:56] Speaker 4: from the elbow, and they make that elbow jumper. And
[17:59] Speaker 4: the elbow jumper is effective. But I don't need to
[18:03] Speaker 4: watch you make 12 elbow jumpers.
[18:06] Speaker 2: This game's only 48 minutes.
[18:08] Speaker 4: But if you root for their team, you don't care
[18:11] Speaker 4: how they made the shots. You're like, yo, 12 elbow
[18:14] Speaker 4: jumpers in a row. Fuck it. But if you don't
[18:17] Speaker 4: have the jersey on, it's just kind of like, ah,
[18:19] Speaker 4: I might want a little more razzle dazzle.
[18:21] Speaker 2: Yo, take it to the rack. Right, right. Could you
[18:23] Speaker 2: dunk on a couple of people?
[18:24] Speaker 3: Please?
[18:25] Speaker 2: That was how I felt about it.
[18:26] Speaker 3: They got two white guys on the team. Pick one.
[18:28] Speaker 4: But the whole week, I have basically felt like, what
[18:31] Speaker 4: it has to be like if you don't celebrate Christmas.
[18:35] Speaker 2: Ugh.
[18:36] Speaker 4: Right, but everybody else does. They are excited. They are
[18:40] Speaker 4: loving it. You are going to get Chinese food.
[18:45] Speaker 2: I got the pan fried wontons ready, baby.
[18:48] Speaker 4: That was where I was the whole week.
[18:50] Speaker 2: Yo, I feel you, man, because it's like, if you
[18:53] Speaker 2: don't jump on a hype train of something immediately, it's.
[18:56] Speaker 3: Like, oh, you hating on this shit? Yo, you think
[18:59] Speaker 3: it's whack?
[18:59] Speaker 2: It's like the fucking pancakes waffle tweet. Like, yo, dog,
[19:03] Speaker 2: I enjoy this a lot. I love cocaine rap. You
[19:06] Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? I'm from New York. Like, come on.
[19:08] Speaker 2: I love cocaine rap. But like you said, bro, like,
[19:10] Speaker 2: all right, bro, after the cocaine rap, let me get
[19:13] Speaker 2: like some, let me get like a little, I don't know,
[19:16] Speaker 2: a little misogyny in my rap or something. You know
[19:18] Speaker 2: what I'm saying? A little something different. Maybe not misogyny, guys. Okay?
[19:23] Speaker 2: But that was the best part about Drake.
[19:24] Speaker 3: Introspection.
[19:25] Speaker 4: But the best part about Drake falling off is we
[19:27] Speaker 4: had one less person that we had to worry about
[19:29] Speaker 4: when it comes to these things.
[19:30] Speaker 3: Right?
[19:31] Speaker 1: Right.
[19:33] Speaker 2: You think? That motherfucker, he's in Mexico right now learning corridos.
[19:38] Speaker 2: He's about to come out with peso pluma. It's going
[19:42] Speaker 2: to be a real hot August.
[19:44] Speaker 4: I'm trying to think, and I consider myself to be
[19:47] Speaker 4: a fairly honest person, so I don't have that long
[19:49] Speaker 4: a list of things that I can say. But I'm
[19:51] Speaker 4: trying to think of any time in my life that
[19:53] Speaker 4: I would have felt compelled to stand in front of
[19:55] Speaker 4: thousands of people and tell a bigger lie than that.
[19:58] Speaker 2: Dude did when he tried to.
[19:59] Speaker 4: Talk about how the British rappers were the best rappers
[20:02] Speaker 4: in the world.
[20:03] Speaker 2: They don't even believe that shit. I can't do that, mate.
[20:08] Speaker 2: I'm not better, mate. I'm not better.
[20:10] Speaker 3: A rap song in the Bronx, mate. I can't even
[20:14] Speaker 3: spell Bronx.
[20:18] Speaker 5: I don't know why Mick Jagger is better at sounding
[20:21] Speaker 5: like a black person than they are. Like, there are
[20:24] Speaker 5: decades of British white people doing black cosplay far more convincingly.
[20:29] Speaker 2: Damn. And the shit that kills me is like, they'll
[20:31] Speaker 2: never do the interview, and it's like, you know, an alleyway,
[20:34] Speaker 2: like Skepta in an alleyway, like, you know what I mean? Like,
[20:37] Speaker 2: smack DVD style, like, Matt goes around, he's like, well, bruv,
[20:40] Speaker 2: the problem is that we have proper lyrics. Exactly. We
[20:44] Speaker 2: have proper lyrics and proper instrumentals, ain't it, mate? And
[20:46] Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, none of this is intimidating or scary
[20:49] Speaker 2: at all. Like, I listen to fucking Migos talk, bro,
[20:52] Speaker 2: and I'm like, you from Atlanta, I'm from the Bronx.
[20:54] Speaker 2: I'm like, I understand half of that. And since I
[20:57] Speaker 2: don't understand half of it, I'm frightened.
[21:00] Speaker 4: But my thing with the British dudes is, and we
[21:01] Speaker 4: were talking about this upstairs, and I listened to y'all,
[21:04] Speaker 4: and y'all were going back and forth with, I like
[21:06] Speaker 4: this one, I don't like this one. I'm not getting
[21:08] Speaker 4: far enough in this process to learn these motherfuckers' names.
[21:12] Speaker 2: They are all the same person to me.
[21:14] Speaker 4: I remember, what was the one from back, Dizzy Rascal.
[21:16] Speaker 2: I remember him.
[21:17] Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
[21:18] Speaker 2: Dizzy Rascal and Slick Rick. Dizzy Rascal and Slick Rick.
[21:21] Speaker 4: That's who I got. I don't know who any of
[21:23] Speaker 4: these new people are. Bro, you better. So, like, I
[21:28] Speaker 4: didn't go to church growing up, right? And one of
[21:31] Speaker 4: the great joys I used to always get is if
[21:32] Speaker 4: my dad had to speak at a funeral and he
[21:35] Speaker 4: would act like he was down, right? Like he would
[21:38] Speaker 4: dial it up and figure out how to do it.
[21:39] Speaker 4: And I was like, it wasn't quite lying, but he
[21:41] Speaker 4: definitely wasn't telling the truth. I felt like that was
[21:44] Speaker 4: the kind of lie they drank. That man would need
[21:45] Speaker 4: a friend so bad.
[21:47] Speaker 2: Fam, that's what happens when everybody's telling you you're the
[21:49] Speaker 2: man for a decade plus. Yes.
[21:51] Speaker 3: And you believe it. Yes. You know what I mean?
[21:53] Speaker 3: You're just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, hell yeah.
[21:55] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[21:55] Speaker 3: Tell me I'm the man again.
[21:56] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[21:57] Speaker 3: I should put berets on my hair. It's going to
[21:59] Speaker 3: look fly.
[21:59] Speaker 4: So is that your way of saying that perhaps LeBron
[22:03] Speaker 4: going to turn up saying that the greatest, a very
[22:06] Speaker 4: similar situation because I feel like he's going through the
[22:08] Speaker 4: same thing right now?
[22:09] Speaker 3: Central C is the best MC ever. It's the best
[22:11] Speaker 3: rapper of all time.
[22:12] Speaker 2: Dude, the Lakers told LeBron, no, we're good. Imagine that, bro.
[22:18] Speaker 2: Imagine being LeBron and somebody being like, we're good. Not
[22:25] Speaker 2: even using a lot of words, just being like. You
[22:27] Speaker 2: don't have to.
[22:28] Speaker 3: It's fine.
[22:29] Speaker 2: Just leave it. Just leave it.
[22:29] Speaker 3: Just leave it.
[22:30] Speaker 2: Just leave it. You know, he's like trying to help motherfuckers. Like, yo,
[22:32] Speaker 2: I'll clean. I'll help you clean. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[22:34] Speaker 4: It's okay.
[22:34] Speaker 3: You can just go.
[22:35] Speaker 2: Hold up. While he's still good. Right.
[22:37] Speaker 4: Right?
[22:38] Speaker 2: Like, it's not like he fell off and it's just like, okay,
[22:40] Speaker 2: we're going to do this tour. We're going to get
[22:41] Speaker 2: these gifts or whatever it was. They're just like, eh. Nah. Yo, listen.
[22:46] Speaker 2: We got Slovenian brawn. Yo. Like, we're good. Yo. Like,
[22:49] Speaker 2: we don't need, you don't gotta. He's going to show up.
[22:53] Speaker 2: And it's going to.
[22:54] Speaker 4: Be so passive-aggressive for.
[22:58] Speaker 2: Because he can't say, I want to leave. Nope. He
[23:01] Speaker 2: can't show up and act a fool. All he can
[23:04] Speaker 2: do is be snippy.
[23:07] Speaker 3: Listen, if anybody in the NBA could be snippy... Yes.
[23:11] Speaker 2: Uh-huh. Yes. Uh-huh. He's going to be like, talking to reporters. Well, anyway.
[23:16] Speaker 3: So.
[23:19] Speaker 2: Dave's talking about, like, they want me to go, but, like,
[23:21] Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, why are you talking about my cousin Yesenia, bro? Like,
[23:24] Speaker 2: what the fuck?
[23:25] Speaker 3: You're very sassy to these reporters, bro.
[23:28] Speaker 4: All right, so I have to ask you this before
[23:29] Speaker 4: we get out of here, because you and I have
[23:31] Speaker 4: not talked about the Knicks since the series ended.
[23:36] Speaker 2: So how certain are.
[23:38] Speaker 4: You that they're going to win the East next year?
[23:44] Speaker 2: Oh, 100%. 100%. 100%. 1,000%. And I'm not even saying
[23:46] Speaker 2: that because of the way the Knicks are constructed. I'm
[23:49] Speaker 2: saying that because of the way the human Achilles tendon
[23:52] Speaker 2: is constructed.
[23:53] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[23:55] Speaker 2: And there's a lot of Achilles that are going to
[23:57] Speaker 2: be out of the NBA Easter Conference next year. Jason Tatum,
[24:00] Speaker 2: Tyrese Halliburton, which are the dudes that was the thorns
[24:03] Speaker 2: of the Knicks side. Yes.
[24:04] Speaker 3: So, dames, shot the dame. You know what I'm saying? Like,
[24:08] Speaker 3: it's a lot of Achilles.
[24:09] Speaker 2: That's not going to be.
[24:11] Speaker 3: On next year.
[24:12] Speaker 4: I can't wait for this. I lived in New York
[24:14] Speaker 4: for eight years. The Knicks have only been good very recently.
[24:17] Speaker 4: It is a much happier place to live when the
[24:19] Speaker 4: Knicks are good. You feel better. My first few, I mean,
[24:22] Speaker 4: MCASters just pull up on me so sad, like, you
[24:24] Speaker 4: got any good news for me about the Knicks?
[24:26] Speaker 1: None.
[24:26] Speaker 3: None.
[24:27] Speaker 2: None, right?
[24:28] Speaker 3: Never.
[24:29] Speaker 4: And now you guys have skipped completely past appreciation, completely past.
[24:34] Speaker 2: Gratitude, and All ready to demanding. Demanding.
[24:38] Speaker 4: Just in time for the black man to show up
[24:40] Speaker 4: as the head coach.
[24:42] Speaker 2: We ready. Yo, listen. Knicks fans went from Mets fans
[24:45] Speaker 2: to Yankee fans overnight.
[24:47] Speaker 3: Overnight. You know what I'm saying? All it took was
[24:49] Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson's stud-built ass. You know what I'm saying? Skin
[24:52] Speaker 3: in the paint.
[24:53] Speaker 2: Counter, counter, counter, counter, counter. You know what I'm saying?
[24:55] Speaker 2: That's it. And then they were like, yo, you know
[24:57] Speaker 2: what we're going to do? We're going to get a
[24:58] Speaker 2: seven-foot-tall Dominican dude that can shoot. Like, what is the
[25:01] Speaker 2: best place to put that dude? New York City? Like,
[25:04] Speaker 2: come on, dog. He's got a fish fry on Dykeman
[25:07] Speaker 2: right now. He's flying in.
[25:08] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[25:10] Speaker 2: It's incredible, dog. So, like, yeah, I'm demanding of the
[25:13] Speaker 2: Knicks now. Like, before, it was like, yo, we happy
[25:15] Speaker 2: to be here. Now it's like, yo, y'all better win
[25:17] Speaker 2: this shit.
[25:18] Speaker 4: I have come, living in New York, I've come to
[25:19] Speaker 4: appreciate you guys a lot more. As I've told you before,
[25:22] Speaker 4: New York does not send its best representatives to the
[25:25] Speaker 4: rest of the world. Right, like the people that you
[25:27] Speaker 4: send us in other cities really be doing.
[25:29] Speaker 2: Y'all a disservice.
[25:31] Speaker 4: You have to understand this. Like you get to New York,
[25:34] Speaker 4: you're like, yo, it ain't really that bad, right?
[25:37] Speaker 2: But the one guy from New York in your town
[25:39] Speaker 2: is always like, yo, this shit is fucking wack.
[25:42] Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
[25:44] Speaker 2: Oh, y'all gamble? Yo, this shit is wack. Yo, y'all
[25:46] Speaker 2: never been to Yonkers? Vegas is all right. Yonkers, Yonkers. Yo, no, no, no,
[25:50] Speaker 2: y'all laughing. Yonkers got this shit, but it's digital. It's
[25:54] Speaker 2: way more futuristic, bro. I don't got to deal with
[25:55] Speaker 2: these fucking ladies, you know what I'm saying, talking about, yo,
[25:58] Speaker 2: I'm the pit boss. Fuck out of here.
[25:59] Speaker 4: But my favorite thing in college with it was, it
[26:02] Speaker 4: was just like, why y'all just be outside all the time?
[26:05] Speaker 2: Outside, bro.
[26:05] Speaker 4: Like, just inexplicably, it's 75 degrees outside.
[26:09] Speaker 2: You have on a coat, and you're outside for no reason.
[26:13] Speaker 2: We invented we outside.
[26:14] Speaker 3: Yes.
[26:14] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? You know what it is?
[26:17] Speaker 3: It get hot as fuck in those apartments, bro. I
[26:18] Speaker 3: understand it now.
[26:20] Speaker 2: It's 75 outside. In the apartment, it's 98,000-ass degrees.
[26:24] Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
[26:25] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
[26:25] Speaker 4: I understand it now.
[26:26] Speaker 3: So we all got to be outside.
[26:27] Speaker 4: But they was doing it when they wasn't in that
[26:29] Speaker 4: apartment no more. Like, all the weirdos you send out.
[26:32] Speaker 4: But I've come to understand you guys are cooler in
[26:34] Speaker 4: actual application. Comma, however, if the Knicks are not good,
[26:40] Speaker 4: it's going to be so funny. It's going to be
[26:45] Speaker 4: hilarious for me. I'm going to be calling Kaz up
[26:48] Speaker 4: all the time just to talk about the Knicks. And
[26:51] Speaker 4: when you call Kaz up and mess with him, he
[26:53] Speaker 4: starts off, first of all.
[26:55] Speaker 2: Fuck you.
[26:57] Speaker 4: That is the beginning of this. Like, calling Knicks fans
[27:00] Speaker 4: is going to be so great.
[27:01] Speaker 2: Oh, man. Bo, just text me. You know what I'm saying?
[27:04] Speaker 4: Y'all fired the coach after going to the conference finals.
[27:09] Speaker 3: Hey, hey, I can't answer for that.
[27:12] Speaker 4: I'm just, you don't have to answer for it. I'm
[27:14] Speaker 4: just telling you, I know what this means. It's going
[27:18] Speaker 4: to be hilarious. And then next year, we're going to
[27:20] Speaker 4: come right back to Summer League, have the same exact conversation,
[27:24] Speaker 4: me and you, right here, as we watch Popeye Jones
[27:28] Speaker 4: walk past us at some casino.
[27:30] Speaker 2: Popeye, shut the.
[27:31] Speaker 3: Popeye Jones, goddammit.
[27:32] Speaker 2: I saw Popeye Jones two years ago walking through here. Man, listen.
[27:38] Speaker 3: Popeye Jones' kids play lacrosse. That means something.
[27:41] Speaker 2: They play hockey. NHL. They are NHL players.
[27:44] Speaker 4: And I would love to be the person to get
[27:46] Speaker 4: in a time machine and go back and tell Popeye
[27:48] Speaker 4: Jones 30 years ago that your sons are going to
[27:50] Speaker 4: be hockey players.
[27:51] Speaker 3: You think they're going to play football? Basketball? No.
[27:55] Speaker 2: Get some skates, motherfucker. Yes. All right.
[28:00] Speaker 4: They're giving us the rap sign. Ken Merrow, Beaumont Jones.
[28:04] Speaker 4: Check out the Right Time podcast available for all five
[28:06] Speaker 4: podcasts and give it away for free.
[28:07] Speaker 3: Appreciate y'all.
[28:09] Speaker 2: Appreciate you both.
[28:09] Speaker 3: Thank you. You know what I'm saying?
[28:11] Speaker 2: Good is good, y'all.
[28:13] Speaker 3: Good is very good.

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