# Giants fire Brian Daboll, Mavericks FIRE Nico Harrison, Brian Kelly-LSU drama | 11.11

An episode of [The Right Time with Bomani Jones](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/982639043), 11 Nov 2025, 57 min.

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Bomani Jones kicks off the show by reacting to the New York Giants firing Brian Daboll. He discusses why they had to make the move to save rookie Quarterback Jaxson Dart and asks if the Giants have become the New York Jets. Next, he discusses the recent gambling scandals in Major League Baseball and why both the league and Sportsbooks are responsible for this situation. Finally, he reacts to Brian Kelly filing suit against LSU, the Eagles beating the Packers on Monday Night Football, and the Mavericks moving on from Nico Harrison. Taping Note...shortly after we finished recording, we got word that Nico was getting fired, not MIGHT get fired. 00:30 - Brian Daboll gets fired 13:15 - MLB's ABSURD gambling scandal 30:00 - Brian Kelly SUES LSU 39:50 - Mavericks FIRE Nico Harrison Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:05] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
[0:09] Speaker 1: My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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[0:15] Speaker 1: rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only
[0:18] Speaker 1: give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are
[0:21] Speaker 1: a hater. We have got the Monday night football game
[0:23] Speaker 1: Packers Eagles to talk about. We also have these boys
[0:28] Speaker 1: in this gambling, but we got this thing right here.
[0:31] Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. I don't think anybody
[0:33] Speaker 1: is surprised that Brian Daybold got fired by the Giants,
[0:36] Speaker 1: though I admit I wasn't expecting him to get fired
[0:41] Speaker 1: after this game. Like, you lost to the Bears, the
[0:43] Speaker 1: Bears aren't bad, and your quarterback got hurt.
[0:46] Speaker 2: Oh, oh, oh.
[0:49] Speaker 1: That's why you got fired, because the quarterback got hurt. Now,
[0:52] Speaker 1: we did our show on Monday and made the point
[0:56] Speaker 1: that Brian Daybold firmly believes that he has found a
[1:00] Speaker 1: market inefficiency, right? Which is, it takes years before people
[1:04] Speaker 1: realize that you're going to run the ball with that
[1:06] Speaker 1: white boy. No matter who that white boy happens to be,
[1:08] Speaker 1: it takes them so long before they realize that's going
[1:10] Speaker 1: to happen, so you might as well do it forever
[1:12] Speaker 1: and ever and ever. But we got this from Mina Kimes,
[1:16] Speaker 1: Brian Daybold. Since Jackson Dart became a starter, he leads
[1:21] Speaker 1: the league in quarterback runs, is second in contact, and
[1:25] Speaker 1: has been tested for four concussions. Leads the league.
[1:30] Speaker 3: And he's played about six, I think six games.
[1:33] Speaker 1: Yes. Ryan, it's the new day and age. It's 2025
[1:37] Speaker 1: with quarterbacks. They don't got him running like a black,
[1:43] Speaker 1: like so... When Josh Allen, when Dave O had Josh Allen,
[1:47] Speaker 1: or before Dave O even got there, I think, I
[1:48] Speaker 1: made the point about Josh Allen that if Josh Allen's
[1:50] Speaker 1: name was Jaheim, they'd have been running a completely different
[1:53] Speaker 1: offense for him. And if he had been running some
[1:55] Speaker 1: Jaheim plays, everything would be okay. And then Brian Dave
[1:58] Speaker 1: O got there and started running Jaheim plays for Josh Allen.
[2:02] Speaker 3: The big galoot special. That's right.
[2:04] Speaker 1: Look what he's become. He's a big ass rolling, rolling
[2:07] Speaker 1: ball a bunch of knives, right? Like he became that guy. That's,
[2:11] Speaker 1: this is what he does. Brian Daybold got Jackson Dart
[2:16] Speaker 1: and was like, nah, that's Jay Money. And got him
[2:19] Speaker 1: running more than all the, he got him running more
[2:22] Speaker 1: than all the dudes. Now look, Lamar Jackson hasn't been playing.
[2:25] Speaker 1: Kyler Murray hasn't been playing.
[2:27] Speaker 3: Jay Daniels hasn't been playing.
[2:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't have the same competition. I understand it.
[2:31] Speaker 1: But at the same time, that is crazy. Four concussions. Four, four.
[2:36] Speaker 1: Now here's what Brian Daybold was doing, and this is
[2:38] Speaker 1: why they had to fire him. And I want to
[2:39] Speaker 1: see you, and you tell me if I'm tripping here, okay?
[2:43] Speaker 1: The reason you got to fire these coaches if you're
[2:45] Speaker 1: going to make the quarterback transition, which is what they
[2:48] Speaker 1: did here, is that you make the transition with the quarterback.
[2:52] Speaker 1: You keep the old coach nine times out of 10.
[2:55] Speaker 1: The old coach knows his job is on the line. Right.
[2:58] Speaker 1: Like there is an understanding there, especially if the guy's
[3:01] Speaker 1: been there for a while. OK, you get this going
[3:05] Speaker 1: or you got to go. All right, that's what Brian
[3:08] Speaker 1: Daybold knows. But Brian Daybold knows that getting going means
[3:11] Speaker 1: winning games.
[3:13] Speaker 3: Right.
[3:13] Speaker 1: That's how you keep your job. But it's not really
[3:17] Speaker 1: your job because you're trying to save it. Right. You
[3:20] Speaker 1: already lost. When you have to do something to save
[3:22] Speaker 1: your job, you have lost your job. And now you
[3:25] Speaker 1: are trying to get your job back. So you have
[3:28] Speaker 1: a job that is not actually your job. What I
[3:31] Speaker 1: am saying is Brian Daybold has been treating the New
[3:34] Speaker 1: York Giants and Jackson Dart like a rental car. Right. Right.
[3:38] Speaker 3: I guess.
[3:39] Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to hurry up and get there. Take
[3:41] Speaker 1: that bitch over the curb. You know what I'm saying? Like,
[3:44] Speaker 1: like he's bumped into so many different things. Why? Because
[3:46] Speaker 1: we run in late. That's why. And it ain't my car.
[3:50] Speaker 2: Right.
[3:51] Speaker 1: I mean, if they say I can keep it. I will,
[3:55] Speaker 1: but this isn't actually my car. And the Giants were like, hey,
[3:58] Speaker 1: wait a minute. Why are we letting this motherfucker drive
[4:00] Speaker 1: our car?
[4:01] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[4:02] Speaker 1: That's my car. And look what he's doing to my car.
[4:06] Speaker 1: They have come, they have found their car, and it
[4:08] Speaker 1: is dented all over the place. And they're like, hey, hey, hey,
[4:12] Speaker 1: you got to bring that car back. They called the
[4:14] Speaker 1: repo man on that car. Bring that shit back. It's
[4:17] Speaker 1: a lease, right? Right. He has no actual sense of
[4:21] Speaker 1: ownership whatsoever. in that car. If he had bought the car,
[4:24] Speaker 1: that'd be one thing. Nope. He leased it and he
[4:26] Speaker 1: treated it like that. And they say, Hey man, go get,
[4:29] Speaker 1: go bring our shit back. Go, go, go, go get
[4:31] Speaker 1: it and go bring it back. And now Brian Dayball
[4:35] Speaker 1: doesn't have a job.
[4:37] Speaker 3: Right now.
[4:38] Speaker 1: Could you please make the point that you made to
[4:40] Speaker 1: be coming in here about how Brian Dayball got here
[4:43] Speaker 1: and what he turned into?
[4:44] Speaker 3: So I'm going to read the couple paragraphs from the
[4:46] Speaker 3: ESPN story, you know, kind of down towards the bottom. Uh,
[4:51] Speaker 3: The hot-headed coach had a rocky four years with the
[4:54] Speaker 3: Giants filled with incidents that included an ugly split with
[4:56] Speaker 3: defensive coordinator Week Markendale after the 2023 season and a
[4:59] Speaker 3: $ 100, 000 fine earlier in the year for approaching the blue
[5:02] Speaker 3: medical tent while Dart was being examined for concussion. Joe Shane,
[5:06] Speaker 3: at one point along the way, had to monitor the
[5:08] Speaker 3: coaching headsets to evaluate the coach's communication. Dable also flipped
[5:13] Speaker 3: a tablet at former quarterback Daniel Jones and replaced a
[5:15] Speaker 3: good chunk of his staff over the past years. Translation...
[5:20] Speaker 3: he was too much of an asshole for a tackle
[5:22] Speaker 3: football coach.
[5:23] Speaker 1: This is correct. Now, I just Googled something, and it
[5:27] Speaker 1: said that Brian Daybold is six feet tall, and I
[5:31] Speaker 1: don't believe it.
[5:33] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's 5'10 1⁄2.
[5:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to see him lined up against some people,
[5:39] Speaker 1: because this is all, and you've seen some of those
[5:41] Speaker 1: clips of like watching during a game where he points
[5:43] Speaker 1: on something at the table, and he just talks to
[5:45] Speaker 1: people like they're morons.
[5:47] Speaker 3: Right.
[5:47] Speaker 1: Just flat out, and it's kind of like, Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Yeah,
[5:52] Speaker 1: but you're right. The GM of a tackle football team
[5:55] Speaker 1: was like, hey, I got to keep an eye on
[5:57] Speaker 1: what this guy.
[5:57] Speaker 3: Is up to. You need to watch your language.
[6:00] Speaker 1: He is burning people out and hold on. His record
[6:04] Speaker 1: as a head coach is 20, 40, and one. And
[6:10] Speaker 1: this is the way that he's out here talking to people.
[6:13] Speaker 1: He got the big loot on track and he parlayed
[6:17] Speaker 1: that into, hold on, let me make sure I get
[6:19] Speaker 1: this number right. Oh, wow. It felt like he'd been
[6:21] Speaker 1: there longer than this. This is only year four. Right.
[6:24] Speaker 1: This is only year four, but they were just like,
[6:27] Speaker 1: he's going to kill.
[6:28] Speaker 3: In the last three seasons, I think he was 11
[6:30] Speaker 3: and 33.
[6:31] Speaker 1: Yes. They said he's going to kill Jackson Darby.
[6:34] Speaker 4: Right.
[6:35] Speaker 1: And by the way, it helps nothing that Daniel Jones
[6:38] Speaker 1: has been on fire or at the very least is
[6:42] Speaker 1: quarterbacking a team that's going to make the playoffs.
[6:44] Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, they might be the one seed.
[6:47] Speaker 1: It's really on the board. And now the Giants, who...
[6:51] Speaker 1: Second-generation ownership, man. People don't think about this. Wellington Mara died,
[6:56] Speaker 1: and then this John Mara guy has got the team,
[6:58] Speaker 1: and he doesn't seem to be good at this at all.
[7:01] Speaker 3: No.
[7:02] Speaker 1: He doesn't. And this is across the board, man. The
[7:04] Speaker 1: only team I can think of that gets better when
[7:06] Speaker 1: the second generation gets the team was actually the Steelers,
[7:09] Speaker 1: but that's because Generation 1 Rooney was just a little
[7:13] Speaker 1: bit too busy breaking the law. You can look it up.
[7:16] Speaker 1: I'm not making this up. He was, I think, the
[7:18] Speaker 1: word racketeer. is what was going on there. The second-generation
[7:22] Speaker 1: guy was like, hey, I think I'll pay attention to football,
[7:25] Speaker 1: and then there were some steroids. But anyway, this is
[7:29] Speaker 1: where the Giants, like, you and I were just talking
[7:32] Speaker 1: about this, Ryan. They're the Jets.
[7:34] Speaker 3: Right, and they've been the Jets for 10 years.
[7:36] Speaker 1: All right, so let's think about this. The last time
[7:38] Speaker 1: the Jets went to the playoffs is 2010. The Giants
[7:41] Speaker 1: have been to the playoffs a couple times since then,
[7:43] Speaker 1: but they won that Super Bowl in 2011, and then
[7:45] Speaker 1: it's really, I think, been to the playoffs forever. Two
[7:47] Speaker 1: years since then.
[7:49] Speaker 3: I think they had one playoff. Daniel Jones had one
[7:52] Speaker 3: playoff win.
[7:53] Speaker 1: Yes, the game in Minnesota, and then they had the boat.
[7:56] Speaker 1: Remember when O'Dell and the boys was on the boat?
[7:58] Speaker 3: I remember the boat.
[7:59] Speaker 1: Right, with Trey Songz, and they was wearing no shirts
[8:02] Speaker 1: and wearing jeans on a goddamn boat.
[8:04] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[8:05] Speaker 1: Like, that's it. That's what it's been. I've been here
[8:07] Speaker 1: eight years, man. Eight years. There's been, I think, one
[8:12] Speaker 1: good football team in the eight years that I have
[8:16] Speaker 1: lived in this city.
[8:18] Speaker 3: And that team was quarterbacked by Daniel Jones.
[8:20] Speaker 1: It was quarterbacked by Daniel Jones. So how good was
[8:23] Speaker 1: the team, actually? Because they beat a team that was
[8:25] Speaker 1: quarterbacked by Kirk Cousins. By the way, are we... They
[8:28] Speaker 1: are really... There's no way he's six feet tall, is there?
[8:31] Speaker 3: There's no way.
[8:33] Speaker 1: No, and I bet, like, when he really gets mad
[8:35] Speaker 1: and nobody's around, I bet that shit is hilarious. Like,
[8:39] Speaker 1: you know, his face get all red.
[8:40] Speaker 3: He's one of those white people that can turn all
[8:42] Speaker 3: those different colors.
[8:42] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, and it goes all the way
[8:44] Speaker 1: to the top. Right. You know? And, I mean....
[8:49] Speaker 3: Yeah, dog.
[8:50] Speaker 1: I just did. I just love that the Giants woke
[8:54] Speaker 1: up and was like, yo, we got to get him
[8:55] Speaker 1: out of here before he messes something up.
[8:57] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and there's nothing like, you know, messing
[9:01] Speaker 3: up the quarterback, not winning games and being mean to
[9:04] Speaker 3: everybody at work to really be the trifecta of trying
[9:07] Speaker 3: to keep your job.
[9:08] Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. No, but I think everybody needs to learn
[9:11] Speaker 1: that lesson. Like this Iberflues with the Bears last year
[9:16] Speaker 1: is another sort of situation. This is going to happen
[9:19] Speaker 1: if you turn it over. And then once you turn
[9:21] Speaker 1: it over, what's going to wind up happening? Now you
[9:23] Speaker 1: wound up stacking up on that list of this quarterback
[9:25] Speaker 1: has had this many offensive coordinators in this many years, right?
[9:29] Speaker 1: Like all those things are going to start stacking up. No, no, no.
[9:33] Speaker 1: Chances are I guess what you're making, you know what
[9:35] Speaker 1: it comes down to? This is where people get themselves
[9:38] Speaker 1: in trouble, okay? This is what it comes down to.
[9:41] Speaker 1: They're getting caught in this idea about whether or not
[9:43] Speaker 1: somebody deserves to have their job or not. Now, you
[9:46] Speaker 1: can make the argument that the Giants left Brian Daybo
[9:50] Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones, right? Okay? Daniel Jones got hurt or whatever,
[9:55] Speaker 1: and it would be unfair to fire Brian Daybol under
[9:59] Speaker 1: those circumstances because he didn't have his quarterback. But you
[10:03] Speaker 1: decided to go get another quarterback, a quarterback, by the way,
[10:06] Speaker 1: that other teams actually wanted and believed that there was
[10:10] Speaker 1: still something left with. But Brian Daybol, even if Daniel
[10:13] Speaker 1: Jones hadn't got hurt, you know, or he got cut,
[10:16] Speaker 1: that's right. He got hurt, then he got cut. my
[10:19] Speaker 1: fault because they stopped playing him because they did not
[10:22] Speaker 1: want to have to pay like the injury guarantees so
[10:24] Speaker 1: you're taking a guy who couldn't get it done with
[10:26] Speaker 1: one guy and then you give him the chance to
[10:29] Speaker 1: do it with another guy and then you realize you
[10:32] Speaker 1: can't do that because he's treating him like a rental
[10:34] Speaker 1: car nah man unless there's something incredibly unique going on
[10:38] Speaker 1: with the circumstances in the situation chances are if you
[10:42] Speaker 1: got to go get the new quarterback you're going to
[10:45] Speaker 1: need to get the new coach. Now, hey, maybe it's
[10:46] Speaker 1: Don Shula drafting Dan Marino, right? Right, right. You could
[10:50] Speaker 1: wind up in that situation or the reasonable transfer of
[10:52] Speaker 1: power that often happens with quarterbacks. But on this, you
[10:56] Speaker 1: knew there was a very good chance you were going
[10:58] Speaker 1: to fire him. Fuck deserve, fire him.
[11:01] Speaker 3: Can I go through the Giants head coaches since Tom Coughlin?
[11:04] Speaker 1: Hold on. Can I? I'm going to try.
[11:06] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[11:06] Speaker 1: Let me roll with you. Ben McAdoo.
[11:09] Speaker 3: 28 games, 13 and 15.
[11:10] Speaker 1: Pat Shermer.
[11:10] Speaker 3: 32 games, nine and 23.
[11:15] Speaker 1: Do we now go straight to Brian Dayball or is
[11:18] Speaker 1: there one in between?
[11:19] Speaker 3: Joe Judge.
[11:21] Speaker 1: Oh, wow. I forgot that happened.
[11:23] Speaker 2: 10 and 23.
[11:24] Speaker 1: And then we get to Brian Dayball.
[11:26] Speaker 3: Then we get to Dayball.
[11:29] Speaker 1: Remember that time that Brian Dayball got the interview with,
[11:37] Speaker 1: I think it was the Giants and Bill Belichick sent
[11:40] Speaker 1: a text to Brian saying, About Brian Dayball getting that
[11:43] Speaker 1: job with the New York Giants.
[11:44] Speaker 3: It was the wrong Brian.
[11:45] Speaker 1: Except he said it to Brian Flores. And Brian Flores said, Coach,
[11:48] Speaker 1: did you mean to say that to Brian Dayball or
[11:50] Speaker 1: Brian Flores? And Belichick was like, my bad.
[11:53] Speaker 3: Do you want to do Jets coaches since you've lived here?
[11:57] Speaker 1: Since I've lived here. Okay. Todd Bowles was gone. No,
[12:01] Speaker 1: 2017 Todd Bowles was here.
[12:02] Speaker 3: You had one year of Todd Bowles.
[12:04] Speaker 1: I got a year of Todd Bowles. I've got Adam Gase.
[12:07] Speaker 4: 9-23. 9-23.
[12:11] Speaker 1: Who did they just fire to give this job to
[12:13] Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn? I've forgotten who that, whoever that was.
[12:17] Speaker 3: Bob Sala, 2013.
[12:17] Speaker 1: That sure did happen. And then they fired him in
[12:21] Speaker 1: the middle of the year.
[12:22] Speaker 3: Yeah. He had the best record out of all of them.
[12:25] Speaker 5: He did.
[12:26] Speaker 1: I mean, the thing is with the Jets, we always
[12:29] Speaker 1: just say, hey, they're the Jets. We have to start
[12:32] Speaker 1: saying that about the Giants. Correct.
[12:33] Speaker 5: Correct.
[12:34] Speaker 1: Right? Like, it's amazing who we do and do not
[12:37] Speaker 1: cut slack for that, by the way. For example, before
[12:40] Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford turned into apparently the best quarterback in the
[12:42] Speaker 1: league and he had those stretches of being mid, the
[12:46] Speaker 1: way mid was intended with the Lions and everybody just
[12:49] Speaker 1: blames the Lions. Like, yeah, those terrible Lions giving them
[12:51] Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson to throw to.
[12:53] Speaker 5: Yuck.
[12:54] Speaker 3: Yuck.
[12:54] Speaker 1: Right? Like, we all, like, it's here and there where
[12:57] Speaker 1: we pick it up. But the Giants, I mean, I
[13:00] Speaker 1: tell you this, go ask a Giants fan if they'd
[13:02] Speaker 1: rather root for the Lions right now. That's what I thought.
[13:12] Speaker 1: All right, we got another gambling situation. Now, here's the
[13:15] Speaker 1: thing about this current gambling situation, and I think this
[13:17] Speaker 1: is important for me to point out because most of
[13:20] Speaker 1: us don't really pay that close attention to baseball, all right?
[13:23] Speaker 1: We had the Terry Rozier situation over there in the NBA.
[13:26] Speaker 1: We had John Tate Porter. We got Malik Beasley. All
[13:30] Speaker 1: players that you've probably heard of, though, to be perfectly honest,
[13:34] Speaker 1: You only really know about Jonte Porter because he got
[13:36] Speaker 1: caught gap. All right. Or maybe you're just a really
[13:38] Speaker 1: big Michael Porter fan. Either way it goes. That's how
[13:42] Speaker 1: you would know about who those people are. Baseball's got
[13:45] Speaker 1: a little bit of a situation because they got an
[13:48] Speaker 1: actual factual good player that is ensnared in something. And
[13:51] Speaker 1: that is Emmanuel Classe. He is a relief pitcher for
[13:54] Speaker 1: the Cleveland Guardians. And you're like, yeah, he's a relief pitcher.
[13:58] Speaker 1: He led the league in saves three straight years, and
[14:00] Speaker 1: he was third in the Cy Young voting in 2024,
[14:03] Speaker 1: and he was having a pretty good 2025 until people
[14:06] Speaker 1: found out, hey, be an investigator for some gambling shenanigans.
[14:10] Speaker 1: This is another player on the Guardians named Luis Ortiz.
[14:13] Speaker 1: Both of these cats were indicted for pitch rigging. Yes,
[14:19] Speaker 1: and you may be asking yourself, what is pitch rigging?
[14:23] Speaker 1: Which is I mean, at once, it's exactly what it
[14:26] Speaker 1: sounds like. But, Ryan, you would also have to admit,
[14:29] Speaker 1: on the other hand, it sounds like it could just
[14:31] Speaker 1: be slang for something nasty.
[14:32] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to say those words together.
[14:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, pitch rigging. I need to talk a little faster.
[14:39] Speaker 1: These things happen. Like, Marcus Spears, I forget what it is. Oh,
[14:42] Speaker 1: Dominique does get up. They got a segment called, What
[14:45] Speaker 1: Did Dee Fox Say? For those of you who don't
[14:47] Speaker 1: speak antiquated internet. But anyway, it's what does D. Fox say?
[14:51] Speaker 1: And they got to cut into my man Marcus Spears
[14:53] Speaker 1: being like, I don't want to say that because I'm
[14:56] Speaker 1: country and I don't want to say the wrong thing.
[14:59] Speaker 3: That's being your own self-defensive coordinator.
[15:01] Speaker 1: That is correct. Pitch rigging had me being like, ooh,
[15:03] Speaker 1: I'm glad this is my own show. Otherwise, this could
[15:06] Speaker 1: be really dangerous. But anyway, pitch rigging is this. At
[15:11] Speaker 1: these gambling houses... you can do a prop bet on
[15:17] Speaker 1: not just whether or not a pitch is going to
[15:20] Speaker 1: be a ball or a strike, but also what the
[15:24] Speaker 1: velocity of that pitch is going to be. And I'm
[15:27] Speaker 1: assuming that you can only do this on the first
[15:30] Speaker 1: pitch because otherwise I know they work very hard to
[15:34] Speaker 1: make sure that the technology works so that everybody's on
[15:36] Speaker 1: the same time. You know what I mean? But it's
[15:39] Speaker 1: only truly sustainable. I feel like you can make this
[15:41] Speaker 1: work on the first pitch. that a pitcher throws. So yes,
[15:44] Speaker 1: just so you understand what it is, you bet on
[15:47] Speaker 1: Emmanuel Klasse whether or not his first pitch is going
[15:49] Speaker 1: to be a ball or a strike, or, and this
[15:52] Speaker 1: is what I never considered, they appear to also do
[15:56] Speaker 1: an over-under on the velocity of the pitch, okay? So
[16:02] Speaker 1: you can bet on whether or not the pitch is
[16:04] Speaker 1: going to be a ball or a strike or over under,
[16:07] Speaker 1: we'll call it 93 miles an hour on the pitch.
[16:10] Speaker 1: These are things that you can bet on. All right.
[16:14] Speaker 1: And so what the accusation is, is that Klase was
[16:18] Speaker 1: intentionally throwing balls. and then throwing, call it a slider
[16:25] Speaker 1: off the top rather than a cutter, a cutter off
[16:27] Speaker 1: the top rather than a slider, and then there were
[16:30] Speaker 1: people who were betting on this, and very important detail,
[16:35] Speaker 1: Klasse was also giving people money to bet on this
[16:40] Speaker 1: for himself, right? Then they are accusing him taking $ 5, 000
[16:47] Speaker 1: to get another one of his partners, Luis Ortiz, also
[16:53] Speaker 1: a pitcher, in on the same game. Now, I have
[16:57] Speaker 1: to be honest with you. When I first heard about
[16:59] Speaker 1: the story, all I heard about was the $ 5, 000. And
[17:02] Speaker 1: I was like, brother, you risked it all for $ 5, 000.
[17:08] Speaker 1: But he didn't risk it all for $ 5, 000. It actually
[17:10] Speaker 1: turns out he really just risked it all for like.
[17:12] Speaker 6: $ 60, 000.
[17:15] Speaker 1: There was a contract certainly coming down the pike for
[17:18] Speaker 1: this dude, probably a hundred million dollars, right? This was
[17:23] Speaker 1: where it was going for him. But then this happened. Okay.
[17:30] Speaker 1: I want to try to avoid the, wow, that's really
[17:35] Speaker 1: stupid angle on this, right? Because I think that the
[17:39] Speaker 1: stupidity is somewhat obvious. Number one, number two, um, I'll
[17:46] Speaker 1: never forget when my brother told me this when I
[17:48] Speaker 1: was younger. So like 25 years ago, he told me this,
[17:49] Speaker 1: but it was a very important point, which is some
[17:52] Speaker 1: people just really don't have good judgment. And those people
[17:55] Speaker 1: who do have good judgment or at the very least
[17:58] Speaker 1: decent judgment, we will never be able to understand people
[18:02] Speaker 1: who don't know a bad idea when it's staring them
[18:04] Speaker 1: in the face. You know what I mean? Like. Never.
[18:09] Speaker 1: We're never going to be the same people as those
[18:11] Speaker 1: people where we can look at it and be like, oh, wow,
[18:13] Speaker 1: that guy obviously could not tell not to touch that
[18:16] Speaker 1: blazing hot stove. Some people just have terrible judgment. This
[18:20] Speaker 1: is an example of terrible judgment. Or I don't know
[18:24] Speaker 1: why this cat might have needed the money. Like when
[18:26] Speaker 1: we were talking about dudes like Chauncey Billups and Terry Rozier,
[18:29] Speaker 1: these cats had hundreds of millions of dollars and earned
[18:33] Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars at this point. Right. It's like,
[18:35] Speaker 1: how did you get here? Terry Rozier, clearly under a
[18:38] Speaker 1: significant amount of debt. Chauncey Billups, presumably a similar thing.
[18:42] Speaker 1: But we don't really know the answer. This cat right
[18:44] Speaker 1: here been making a couple $ 3 million a year in
[18:47] Speaker 1: baseball so far. And that isn't as much money as
[18:53] Speaker 1: it sounds like. And this is what I mean when
[18:56] Speaker 1: I say it isn't as much money as it sounds like.
[18:59] Speaker 1: Most people who get to a place of making like
[19:01] Speaker 1: $ 3 million have been making money along the way. And
[19:04] Speaker 1: so you've built up and you've bought all the stuff
[19:06] Speaker 1: that you need. And then these millions of dollars kind
[19:09] Speaker 1: of become gravy. Maybe you buy a bigger house or
[19:11] Speaker 1: whatever it is. If you're starting from zero, and I
[19:14] Speaker 1: don't know anything about Emmanuel Classe, right? Like he might
[19:18] Speaker 1: be the fresh prince of Santo Domingo or wherever he
[19:22] Speaker 1: is from the Dominican, right? His people may have all
[19:24] Speaker 1: the paper. I have no idea. OK, if I had
[19:27] Speaker 1: to guess, I would not assume that he comes from bread.
[19:31] Speaker 1: That's just typically not the story that we get on
[19:33] Speaker 1: the Dominican baseball players, although it would be really funny
[19:35] Speaker 1: if some of them are like really bougie and we
[19:38] Speaker 1: just have no idea. Like I got a partner in
[19:41] Speaker 1: New York and he married to a woman from a
[19:43] Speaker 1: South American country and he would like try to impress
[19:47] Speaker 1: her and take her to the neighborhood.
[19:49] Speaker 7: Right.
[19:50] Speaker 1: Where the people from her country be. And she had
[19:53] Speaker 1: to explain to him that, hey, man, while it is
[19:55] Speaker 1: cool to be around my people, I'm a little fancier
[19:58] Speaker 1: than this. You know what I mean? In the old country,
[20:05] Speaker 1: she don't be hanging out in the type of neighborhood
[20:07] Speaker 1: that is the neighborhood in the Bronx or in Wood
[20:10] Speaker 1: or wherever they be. You understand what I'm saying? That's
[20:13] Speaker 1: how it goes. Either way, let's start from the presumption
[20:16] Speaker 1: that Class A don't have a lot of money. Let's
[20:18] Speaker 1: then say that he's been making a million dollars a year,
[20:20] Speaker 1: a couple million dollars a year. I looked it up.
[20:21] Speaker 1: He ain't really hit for the big score yet, right?
[20:25] Speaker 1: How much of that money is going back to the crib? right? Like,
[20:29] Speaker 1: I don't know how many people are depending on him.
[20:32] Speaker 1: So what I'm saying there, there is a difference between
[20:36] Speaker 1: making a lot of money and having a lot of money.
[20:41] Speaker 1: And it is entirely possible to class as a person
[20:43] Speaker 1: who has a lot of money and therefore an extra
[20:47] Speaker 1: 60 G's, you know, might be a thing. On the
[20:52] Speaker 1: other hand, Ryan, I believe they said that the other
[20:55] Speaker 1: people in this plot were making upwards of six figures
[20:59] Speaker 1: in this, like the people that were behind him. I
[21:02] Speaker 1: feel like Klase should have got his agent involved.
[21:05] Speaker 5: Right.
[21:05] Speaker 1: I don't think he's getting a big enough split off
[21:08] Speaker 1: of this.
[21:09] Speaker 3: For sure. Yeah.
[21:11] Speaker 1: Also, are these people who are running this game, are
[21:14] Speaker 1: they placing their bets domestically rather than offshore where it's
[21:16] Speaker 1: a little harder to track, number one? Number two, they
[21:18] Speaker 1: ain't got no crypto? Okay, now I'm out here criticizing
[21:20] Speaker 1: them for being stupid. Go ahead.
[21:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it sounds like they're running these games
[21:26] Speaker 3: from all sorts of books, but it does– while the
[21:30] Speaker 3: offshore books are harder– To catch.
[21:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still.
[21:33] Speaker 3: They're still sportsbooks. Got you.
[21:35] Speaker 5: Got you.
[21:36] Speaker 1: That's a good point. They're still doing.
[21:38] Speaker 3: They're still trying to make money the same way.
[21:40] Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, they're still trying not to get caught up.
[21:42] Speaker 3: Correct.
[21:43] Speaker 1: Yes.
[21:43] Speaker 4: Right?
[21:43] Speaker 1: They're still... Okay. Totally makes sense. You are correct.
[21:46] Speaker 5: But.
[21:49] Speaker 1: What struck me about this story was the idea that
[21:53] Speaker 1: you could bet on how fast the pitch was. Or
[21:56] Speaker 1: the idea that you could bet on something as simple
[21:58] Speaker 1: as balls and strikes. The ability to do this, the
[22:06] Speaker 1: sports books and the leagues set themselves up for this. Now,
[22:13] Speaker 1: one could argue that what I am engaging in is
[22:15] Speaker 1: a measure of victim blaming because by nature of this,
[22:18] Speaker 1: the crime is against the casino. Therefore, the casino is
[22:22] Speaker 1: the victim in this case. And I think that point
[22:26] Speaker 1: is important to bring up that the victim is the
[22:28] Speaker 1: casino because the In baseball, man, they be burning pitches
[22:32] Speaker 1: all the time, right? I probably need to throw a
[22:35] Speaker 1: strike right now, but it's my turn to hit somebody
[22:38] Speaker 1: in the ear hole. You know what I mean? Like
[22:42] Speaker 1: one pitch, they'll burn a pitch all the time. These
[22:45] Speaker 1: are not crimes against the integrity of the game as
[22:48] Speaker 1: far as the accusation goes. It's just not. These are
[22:52] Speaker 1: crimes against the fiduciary sanctity of the sports books. That
[22:58] Speaker 1: is against whom the crime has been committed. And I
[23:02] Speaker 1: don't care that much about that, right? And I needed
[23:05] Speaker 1: to be a little more careful in my brain as
[23:07] Speaker 1: I think about this when it relates to the basketball stuff. Also,
[23:10] Speaker 1: nobody over there has been accused of fixing a game.
[23:13] Speaker 1: I still think that that story was fairly catastrophic because,
[23:16] Speaker 1: number one, it truly exposed the vulnerability of that league
[23:19] Speaker 1: of guys who have made hundreds of millions of dollars
[23:21] Speaker 1: could get caught up like this. If a Hall of
[23:23] Speaker 1: Famer could get caught up like this. But because an
[23:26] Speaker 1: NBA head coach may be in the pocket of organized crime.
[23:31] Speaker 1: I think that that story was catastrophic. For baseball, these guys,
[23:35] Speaker 1: this isn't the Black Sox, right? This ain't eight men out.
[23:39] Speaker 1: This is a dude trying to get over on the casino.
[23:42] Speaker 1: I don't care that much about that. I also look
[23:45] Speaker 1: at that from the standpoints of the casino when I
[23:47] Speaker 1: say that's what you get. Now, to be fair to
[23:51] Speaker 1: the casino, they're like, what do you mean that's what
[23:53] Speaker 1: we get? What we do is we provide things for
[23:57] Speaker 1: people to bet on. That's the business. Fair point. But
[24:03] Speaker 1: y'all got a little greedy. Now, one could argue that
[24:05] Speaker 1: they actually haven't gotten greedy because none of them are
[24:08] Speaker 1: actually making any money. Also, fair point, right? However, this
[24:17] Speaker 1: was so easily fixable and manipulable.
[24:23] Speaker 2: Easily.
[24:24] Speaker 1: And the reason is because it's nothing to burn a pitch, right?
[24:30] Speaker 1: And number two, I decided to throw a slider instead
[24:35] Speaker 1: of a cutter. My prerogative, baby.
[24:38] Speaker 3: Right, it's not fixing a game or even, you know,
[24:42] Speaker 3: what Terry Rozier was accused of doing, right, was essentially
[24:46] Speaker 3: faking an injury.
[24:47] Speaker 1: Yes.
[24:48] Speaker 3: It was like betting an injury and saying, oh my,
[24:50] Speaker 3: I twisted my ankle and I only got two points
[24:52] Speaker 3: instead of eight or whatever. Right. That has a cost
[24:55] Speaker 3: to your team.
[24:56] Speaker 1: Right. But I also still say on that front, it
[24:58] Speaker 1: has a cost to your team. Terry Rozier could get
[25:00] Speaker 1: away with that, but Bam Adebayo could not.
[25:02] Speaker 3: Correct.
[25:03] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And so how much Terry
[25:06] Speaker 1: Rozier actually swings the game? Shit, sometimes his coach might
[25:09] Speaker 1: be glad he ain't playing.
[25:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
[25:11] Speaker 1: That's the best thing to ever happen to us, right?
[25:14] Speaker 3: Addition by subtraction.
[25:15] Speaker 1: Right, but he had no financial incentive to directly affect
[25:19] Speaker 1: the outcome of the game.
[25:21] Speaker 3: Right.
[25:21] Speaker 1: Right, and so that makes it a little bit easier
[25:25] Speaker 1: to encourage such behavior. In this case, there's nothing really
[25:29] Speaker 1: to stop anybody. from doing this, right? The only thing
[25:34] Speaker 1: that's really going to stop somebody from doing this is
[25:37] Speaker 1: the fact that you might get caught. And what we
[25:39] Speaker 1: are learning is that doesn't truly dissuade as many people
[25:45] Speaker 1: as we would like to think. I'm going to get caught,
[25:48] Speaker 1: or maybe you won't. Like, do you remember in the
[25:51] Speaker 1: last dance where they told Michael Jordan if he came
[25:53] Speaker 1: back in 1985 that there was a 10% chance that
[25:56] Speaker 1: his career could end? And he says with a 90%
[25:59] Speaker 1: chance that it won't, so I'm going to play. That
[26:00] Speaker 1: is the dumbest shit I have ever heard in my life.
[26:03] Speaker 3: But to some people, 90 is greater than 10.
[26:06] Speaker 1: Right. But like, that's Michael Jordan, who, by the way,
[26:10] Speaker 1: doesn't appear to be dumb. Right. Terrible logic that he
[26:14] Speaker 1: was using. Terrible. Think about it. I don't eat raw
[26:18] Speaker 1: oysters because of the odds. And those odds are way
[26:22] Speaker 1: lower than 10%.
[26:22] Speaker 2: Right.
[26:24] Speaker 1: Right. Come on, man. But it's these thirst that everybody
[26:28] Speaker 1: has to make as much money off this gambling as
[26:30] Speaker 1: possible that they look at this and don't say to themselves, hey, man,
[26:34] Speaker 1: this is really easy for somebody to try to fix.
[26:37] Speaker 1: But oh, well, let's go out here and get this money. Now,
[26:40] Speaker 1: since that story has come out on Monday, it was
[26:42] Speaker 1: announcement that baseball and the books have gotten together and
[26:46] Speaker 1: decided to limit the prop bets to a maximum of
[26:50] Speaker 1: two hundred dollars on this pitch thing. My question being,
[26:53] Speaker 1: why could anybody ever bet more than $ 200 on this? Also,
[26:57] Speaker 1: they have said that you can no longer attach these
[26:59] Speaker 1: to parlays because that's a big part of what these
[27:01] Speaker 1: cats was doing was, um, class A is going to
[27:04] Speaker 1: throw a ball and class A is going to be
[27:06] Speaker 1: under 94 miles an hour. Put that together in a parlay. Voila. Magic, right? Okay. Again,
[27:15] Speaker 1: As good as Klase is, still seems really easy to
[27:19] Speaker 1: track when somebody's decided to put some money on this
[27:21] Speaker 1: and they're gonna figure out what time it is, all right?
[27:24] Speaker 1: This seems very, very simple for somebody to figure out,
[27:27] Speaker 1: but it's simple to figure out, also meaning it's simple
[27:31] Speaker 1: to induce somebody to engage in this. The fact that
[27:35] Speaker 1: you know that you need to put a money limit
[27:38] Speaker 1: on it in order to make it happen, y'all know
[27:42] Speaker 1: y'all got greedy, okay? So to me, this one is not,
[27:47] Speaker 1: I mean, you could argue that what we have is
[27:49] Speaker 1: kind of an institutional failure of what sports is becoming. Okay, cool, right?
[27:54] Speaker 1: Not just sports, but society. But what this really is,
[27:58] Speaker 1: y'all trying to get every dollar that people have and
[28:01] Speaker 1: then somebody caught y'all up in the process. This was
[28:05] Speaker 1: a stupid thing for the books to ever to allow
[28:07] Speaker 1: to happen. And if you want to have prop bets generally,
[28:10] Speaker 1: I get it. I think we're going to eventually trend
[28:13] Speaker 1: to a place where it goes away. Except again, these
[28:15] Speaker 1: people need to figure out how to make money. And
[28:17] Speaker 1: this is a way that they've got to make money.
[28:19] Speaker 1: But you can't make it this easy for people. You
[28:22] Speaker 1: just can't. And they did. I will not weep for you,
[28:26] Speaker 1: especially not when in the face of it, you were like, OK, well,
[28:30] Speaker 1: let's just take the limit down. Y'all ain't learned nothing.
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[29:50] Speaker 3: All right bo let's get to some stories from the
[29:52] Speaker 3: weekend LSU and Brian Kelly drama continues. Dan Wetzel's reporting
[29:58] Speaker 3: an illegal filing obtained by ESPN. Brian Kelly's lawyer stated
[30:02] Speaker 3: LSU saying it, quote, never formally terminated Kelly or seeking
[30:06] Speaker 3: to fire him, quote, for a cause which impacts his
[30:09] Speaker 3: near $ 54 million buyout. Kelly could be taking this to
[30:12] Speaker 3: court as he wants every dollar of said buyout. Bo,
[30:17] Speaker 3: are you surprised by this development?
[30:21] Speaker 1: Why didn't they do it? You got to do this
[30:22] Speaker 1: from the beginning. Like, also, what does formally terminate mean?
[30:28] Speaker 3: I'm assuming that means for cause.
[30:30] Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So this
[30:33] Speaker 1: is the thing. They want to fire him for cause now. Right.
[30:36] Speaker 1: What this says to me or the argument is we
[30:41] Speaker 1: did not formally terminate him, yet he stopped coming to work.
[30:47] Speaker 1: They're basically accusing him of no call, no show.
[30:51] Speaker 3: That is, if only they had someone who had been
[30:55] Speaker 3: in charge of collegiate athletic programs for a long time,
[30:59] Speaker 3: an experienced person at multiple stops, who had worked with
[31:02] Speaker 3: very popular and well-respected people in the league, and who
[31:09] Speaker 3: made this initial decision and was going to figure out
[31:11] Speaker 3: the ramifications of it. Oh, wait, they fired the athletic
[31:13] Speaker 3: director three days after they fired the coach.
[31:15] Speaker 1: Yes. But the argument they're trying to make is that
[31:18] Speaker 1: they were sitting around every day Wondering when Brian Kelly
[31:22] Speaker 1: was going to show up. And then he never came.
[31:25] Speaker 1: And so they had to fire him.
[31:27] Speaker 3: Right?
[31:27] Speaker 1: Like, I had a buddy of mine. I'll never forget this.
[31:29] Speaker 1: He worked at, maybe that's what they try to say.
[31:32] Speaker 1: He worked at Marshalls when he was in high school.
[31:35] Speaker 1: And I was like, yo, man, you still working at Marshalls? Nah.
[31:39] Speaker 1: You get fired? Nah. Did you quit? Nah. What happened?
[31:46] Speaker 1: They stopped giving me hours on the schedule. I stopped
[31:50] Speaker 1: coming to look. Is that what they say? Is that
[31:54] Speaker 1: what they say? It happened with Brian Kelly.
[31:56] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[31:56] Speaker 1: Cause you can't don't call no show as a coach.
[32:01] Speaker 3: It is just the whole, I understand not wanting to
[32:03] Speaker 3: pay Brian Kelly $ 54 million. I wouldn't want to play
[32:06] Speaker 3: Brian Kelly $ 5. Right. But like, yeah, but once you're
[32:10] Speaker 3: making decision to get to like, we're moving on, like,
[32:14] Speaker 3: That's a sunk cost fallacy. You're paying that money.
[32:17] Speaker 1: Yes. We all know that you fired him. And in
[32:20] Speaker 1: all likelihood, like there's an argument that it's cheaper for
[32:23] Speaker 1: you to pay out the 54 over the term of
[32:26] Speaker 1: the contract. Right. Then it is for you to pay
[32:29] Speaker 1: 25 in a lump sum. Right. You know, like it's
[32:34] Speaker 1: the Bobby Bonilla thing. Now, of course, these numbers are
[32:36] Speaker 1: a little different, but people laugh at the Mets for
[32:38] Speaker 1: Bobby Bonilla. Man, they gave that money to Bernie Madoff.
[32:41] Speaker 1: They made so much more money than this $ 1 million.
[32:46] Speaker 1: They were like, whatever, man. We have a Xerox machine
[32:51] Speaker 1: over here that turns $ 1 into $ 2. And you think
[32:54] Speaker 1: we're worried about a fucking annuity? Are you serious? But
[32:59] Speaker 1: this is going to continue. You just got to get
[33:02] Speaker 1: out of this. But now, if you're going to fire
[33:04] Speaker 1: for cause, you got to do that up front. But
[33:06] Speaker 1: they're not as gangster as Tennessee. You remember when Tennessee,
[33:09] Speaker 1: it sounded like they turned in Jeremy Pruitt to the
[33:11] Speaker 1: NCAA so that they could fire for cause. They were
[33:14] Speaker 1: willing to eat probation. in order to move on lsu
[33:18] Speaker 1: was not willing to do that just give them the
[33:21] Speaker 1: money man but i think they offered him i think what.
[33:23] Speaker 3: What what were it was 25 and then they offered
[33:26] Speaker 3: him 30 and they were like uh no i will
[33:28] Speaker 3: take every cent of that bio because of course they
[33:30] Speaker 3: will like it sounds like like you can make the
[33:33] Speaker 3: argument that's part of the reason brian kelly took this
[33:35] Speaker 3: job is they offered him a guaranteed 100 million dollars.
[33:39] Speaker 1: Do you remember When the Knicks were trying to buy
[33:43] Speaker 1: Stephon Marbury out.
[33:44] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[33:45] Speaker 1: And it kept coming up. And one of my favorite
[33:47] Speaker 1: NBA quotes of all time, they're going to give me
[33:51] Speaker 1: all of my money. And then he was turning up
[33:55] Speaker 1: courtside at Knicks games all across the country. Like he
[33:58] Speaker 1: was traveling with the team, but not with the team,
[34:00] Speaker 1: but just not playing. Oh my God, I want Brian
[34:03] Speaker 1: Kelly to start going to LSU games. Except he's going
[34:05] Speaker 1: to need to sit on the other team's side.
[34:07] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm interested to see how he gets into that stadium.
[34:11] Speaker 1: Also, by the way, we forgot about this. So they
[34:15] Speaker 1: had announced, or the word had got out at least,
[34:17] Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a full announcement, that
[34:19] Speaker 1: Virg Osbury, the interim athletic director, was going to be
[34:22] Speaker 1: named the athletic director. And then they came back and said, no, no, no.
[34:27] Speaker 3: They seem to have sorted that out now.
[34:30] Speaker 1: They have. Okay, but let me tell people, they did
[34:31] Speaker 1: come back and say, no, we have named him the
[34:34] Speaker 1: acting athletic director, not the interim athletic director, to which
[34:38] Speaker 1: my man Mark Ennis said on Twitter, no, not the
[34:41] Speaker 1: assistant manager, the assistant director. To the manager. Right. So
[34:46] Speaker 1: what now?
[34:47] Speaker 3: Things are going great in Baton Rouge. We'll see how
[34:49] Speaker 3: the next.
[34:50] Speaker 1: You said they straightened that out now. So is he
[34:52] Speaker 1: the athletic director?
[34:53] Speaker 3: He is the athletic director. Because they just had to. Remember,
[34:55] Speaker 3: they just hired. They had to hire a new president, too.
[34:57] Speaker 1: They do have to hire a new president.
[34:58] Speaker 3: So they brought in a new president.
[35:00] Speaker 1: Oh, they got the president.
[35:01] Speaker 3: They brought the president. That's where the interim acting thing
[35:03] Speaker 3: got confusing. It was like, so the new president apparently
[35:08] Speaker 3: messed that up.
[35:09] Speaker 1: But we'll see. So you're telling me, though, that they
[35:11] Speaker 1: hired a president and the president didn't really get to
[35:13] Speaker 1: hire his own athletic director.
[35:16] Speaker 3: Correct.
[35:16] Speaker 1: And they're now going to try to hire a football coach. Right.
[35:20] Speaker 1: I will also point this out.
[35:22] Speaker 3: The question is, who is they? And that also has
[35:25] Speaker 3: not really been sorted out either.
[35:26] Speaker 1: Hey, let me explain something else to people about Berg Osbury,
[35:30] Speaker 1: if you don't know. V-E-R-G-E space A-U-S-B-E-R-R-Y. Go ahead and
[35:35] Speaker 1: look up a picture of him. If you have never
[35:37] Speaker 1: seen a picture of him before, press pause. Then look
[35:39] Speaker 1: up a picture of him, and then I will say
[35:41] Speaker 1: my next sentence, and I will count it down.
[35:42] Speaker 5: Three, two, one.
[35:44] Speaker 1: Three, two, one. If you think they letting his black
[35:48] Speaker 1: ass pick the athletic director, you are.
[35:50] Speaker 5: You are.
[35:52] Speaker 1: You believe in a future that I don't think has
[35:54] Speaker 1: gotten here yet. They wouldn't have done that when Obama
[35:57] Speaker 1: was president.
[35:59] Speaker 3: All right, moving on to Monday Night Football. Not exactly
[36:01] Speaker 3: a barn burner of a game. Eagles win. 10-7 over
[36:05] Speaker 3: the Packers. Bo, who's been a more confusing quarterback this season,
[36:09] Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts or Jordan Love?
[36:11] Speaker 1: Oh, Jordan Love. Jalen Hurts doesn't really confuse me. I
[36:15] Speaker 1: got a pretty good handle on what's going on there.
[36:17] Speaker 1: I don't think he confuses anybody. It's just a matter
[36:19] Speaker 1: of what you decide to say about him. Right. Jordan Love, man, just,
[36:25] Speaker 1: he looks so cold at points. And by the way,
[36:27] Speaker 1: I don't care what Joe Buckenden was trying to say.
[36:29] Speaker 1: This was not a good football game. They kept trying.
[36:32] Speaker 1: It was a really entertaining score on this game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look,
[36:36] Speaker 1: you're a soccer man. You know what I'm saying? Like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
[36:40] Speaker 1: I did not think this was it. Love, or is
[36:43] Speaker 1: he a case of not actually confusing, just really talented
[36:47] Speaker 1: and highly erratic? Is that what we've got? Right.
[36:51] Speaker 3: And now people are starting to call for Matt Fleur's job.
[36:56] Speaker 1: Yes. That is interesting. Right. Because one thing about this franchise...
[37:01] Speaker 1: They are a stable bunch. Correct. Since Mike Holmgren got
[37:06] Speaker 1: that job, which is like in, what, 92 or something
[37:08] Speaker 1: like that. Holmgren had his stretch. They did that quick
[37:12] Speaker 1: Ray Rhodes run. But Mike Sherman was there. That was
[37:14] Speaker 1: a pretty steady run that they had there. Mike McCarthy
[37:17] Speaker 1: got to stay there for a really long time. They
[37:21] Speaker 1: have had three quarterbacks since I was in the seventh grade.
[37:26] Speaker 1: Eighth grade, my bad. but still three quarterbacks since I
[37:29] Speaker 1: was in eighth grade. Yeah, they just, they keep this
[37:31] Speaker 1: thing moving really smooth. With LeFleur, this team has underachieved.
[37:38] Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that. They also
[37:40] Speaker 1: gave up a couple of first round picks in order
[37:43] Speaker 1: to get Micah Parsons. Like this was a team that
[37:45] Speaker 1: we looked at the beginning of the year as the
[37:47] Speaker 1: win now. Do we think that the Packers are going
[37:51] Speaker 1: to fire LeFleur? I'm inclined to say no. And the
[37:53] Speaker 1: biggest reason I'm inclined to say no is A team
[37:56] Speaker 1: that doesn't actually have an owner is likely to be
[37:59] Speaker 1: a little bit more patient. I know they have a
[38:02] Speaker 1: CEO set up, but I think there's a couple more
[38:04] Speaker 1: voices that probably slow this down a little bit.
[38:08] Speaker 3: And Fleur is in the Mike Tomlin zone of if
[38:11] Speaker 3: he got fired, he would have... immediately coaches would coat
[38:15] Speaker 3: people would fire their coach to hire Matt for.
[38:18] Speaker 1: Immediately and I don't I don't know about you but
[38:21] Speaker 1: I don't feel like the problems that they have and
[38:23] Speaker 1: you know we'll need to trust the people they eat
[38:25] Speaker 1: the film a little bit more but the problems that
[38:26] Speaker 1: they have seem to me to be much more about
[38:29] Speaker 1: the play of the quarterback than the way that the
[38:31] Speaker 1: quarterback um has been coached um they're also down they
[38:35] Speaker 1: down a few guys like I'm like I'm looking at
[38:37] Speaker 1: their receivers, and I've heard of, like, guys that are receivers.
[38:40] Speaker 1: I've only heard of two of them and only one
[38:42] Speaker 1: of them because he's wearing a big hat.
[38:43] Speaker 3: Do you think Matt LeFleur might be a Kyle Shanahan
[38:49] Speaker 3: guy who loves sixes?
[38:51] Speaker 1: That's another good question, but he's never had a six.
[38:54] Speaker 3: I mean, he had a six who used to be
[38:56] Speaker 3: in 10 in Aaron Rodgers those last couple years.
[38:59] Speaker 1: Now, that's an interesting point, right? Because he's had Aaron
[39:01] Speaker 1: Rodgers here, but I think he had what? He was
[39:03] Speaker 1: running the offense in Tennessee. right so i think he
[39:06] Speaker 1: had but i think he had tannahill right what oh
[39:09] Speaker 1: that that all those guys seem to like sixes now
[39:13] Speaker 1: it's sam darnell is he a six because he actually
[39:17] Speaker 1: like he looks like a good solid eight and a
[39:19] Speaker 1: half well i.
[39:21] Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you sometimes when you're six and
[39:22] Speaker 3: you're six two you become an eight you know if
[39:24] Speaker 3: you're if you're if you're if you're if you're a.
[39:27] Speaker 1: Six and you're tall it's a fair point it's a
[39:30] Speaker 1: fair point. But the thing is this. Everybody in their
[39:32] Speaker 1: division is good. Right. I think that they have a
[39:34] Speaker 1: chance to turn this around, right? Like they're 5-3-1. I
[39:39] Speaker 1: think they probably finish second in that division to America's team,
[39:42] Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. And then win a playoff game and
[39:45] Speaker 1: everything's all right.
[39:46] Speaker 3: Right. And– And finally, speaking of people who might lose
[39:49] Speaker 3: their job, Tim McMahon from ESPN is reporting that Nico
[39:54] Speaker 3: Harrison is now a firing of when, not if, they
[39:58] Speaker 3: might make that decision in the midseason. Bo, are you surprised?
[40:02] Speaker 1: All right. I was kinder to Nico. When this trade
[40:06] Speaker 1: was made by most people, and by the way, let
[40:09] Speaker 1: us never forget how amazing it was for all of
[40:12] Speaker 1: us to wake up and be like, what?
[40:14] Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a great content day.
[40:17] Speaker 1: That is like the most shocking sports news. Because it
[40:20] Speaker 1: happened in the middle of the night. It happened in
[40:22] Speaker 1: the middle. I told you, man. Our boss, TD, sent
[40:24] Speaker 1: me that text. It was like, because I woke up
[40:27] Speaker 1: at 4 o'clock in the morning. I was flying, catching
[40:28] Speaker 1: an early flight. And he sent a text talking about, yeah,
[40:31] Speaker 1: the Luka for AD trade. I was like, who the
[40:33] Speaker 1: hell is AD? Because there's no way in the world
[40:34] Speaker 1: you're telling me that Luka Doncic and Anthony Davis were
[40:36] Speaker 1: in a trade.
[40:37] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[40:38] Speaker 1: Like, what are you talking about? But anyway, I was
[40:41] Speaker 1: kinder to Nico when that trade was made than most people.
[40:43] Speaker 1: But I said on that day that trade was going
[40:45] Speaker 1: to get him fired. So, no, I am not surprised.
[40:48] Speaker 1: I am surprised how bad they are this year.
[40:51] Speaker 3: They're bad. They put together a very bad roster. And
[40:56] Speaker 3: it's just one of the things, like, can you imagine
[40:58] Speaker 3: going to work? And everyone's chanting fire, Nico, the whole game.
[41:02] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[41:04] Speaker 1: See, so here's what I say. I don't think that
[41:05] Speaker 1: this is a very bad roster. But without Kyrie Irving,
[41:10] Speaker 1: it is obviously an ill-fitting roster. The big thing that
[41:13] Speaker 1: happened to them was the version of Anthony Davis that
[41:17] Speaker 1: showed up. Look, this is what Nico needed. Nico needed
[41:23] Speaker 1: people from the Lakers to say that they traded Anthony
[41:25] Speaker 1: Davis because he was lazy. Right. Because that's what they
[41:29] Speaker 1: did to Luka. And he's over there looking like Arnold Schwarzenegger,
[41:33] Speaker 1: just some other Eastern Central European type of swole man. Right.
[41:37] Speaker 1: You don't look really swole, but you know what I mean?
[41:39] Speaker 5: He's in.
[41:39] Speaker 1: I told you that was going to happen to best
[41:41] Speaker 1: shape of his career was guaranteed from Luka. All right.
[41:45] Speaker 1: And now him and his merry band of Europeans of
[41:48] Speaker 1: all stripes. They got him. They got Austin Reeves. They
[41:51] Speaker 1: got another white dude to La Ravia.
[41:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, and they've won six of their last seven.
[41:57] Speaker 1: Right, right. They over there doing it. Anthony Davis came
[42:01] Speaker 1: in looking like Stanley Roberts. Well, not exactly Stanley Roberts.
[42:04] Speaker 1: That's going a little bit far, but it was a
[42:06] Speaker 1: lot more. And remember when he tried to tell us,
[42:08] Speaker 1: he was like, oh, yeah, you know, I just like
[42:10] Speaker 1: to come in a little heavy because then otherwise I
[42:12] Speaker 1: start getting into shape and then I lose too much weight.
[42:14] Speaker 1: Did he ever lose the weight?
[42:16] Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks puffy.
[42:18] Speaker 1: He looks puffy. Keep those words in mind, because that
[42:23] Speaker 1: is exactly how he looks. He looks puffy. So, no,
[42:27] Speaker 1: I am not surprised that Nico's going to get fired.
[42:29] Speaker 1: They hate him. Like, there's just no way around it.
[42:32] Speaker 1: There's literally nothing that he could ever do to make
[42:36] Speaker 1: them get over the fact that he traded Luka down.
[42:39] Speaker 1: Just look, man. Rest in peace to Lenny Wilkins. Lenny
[42:45] Speaker 1: Wilkins died a couple of days ago, former NBA coach,
[42:48] Speaker 1: former coach of the Atlanta Hawks. And I saw my
[42:51] Speaker 1: buddy David Dennis had gone on TV and he had
[42:53] Speaker 1: done something about Lenny Wilkins and he was talking about
[42:55] Speaker 1: his legacy in Atlanta. David lives in Atlanta, but David
[42:58] Speaker 1: is not from Atlanta. And you'll understand why I make
[43:01] Speaker 1: that distinction in a second. So he says about Lenny
[43:04] Speaker 1: being a good guy and they write a very flattering
[43:06] Speaker 1: quote from Dominique Wilkins about Lenny Wilkins and everything else.
[43:09] Speaker 1: And he was like, that is Lenny Wilkins' legacy in Atlanta.
[43:14] Speaker 1: That is not true. Lenny Wilkins is the dude who
[43:18] Speaker 1: traded Dominique. And I realized that after the news came
[43:23] Speaker 1: out that he had passed and I watched David Dennis'
[43:25] Speaker 1: segment and my brain is just screaming, he traded Dominique.
[43:29] Speaker 1: It's been 31 years and the man just died and
[43:36] Speaker 1: he doesn't seem to be a bad dude. And all
[43:39] Speaker 1: I could think about was he traded Dominique.
[43:42] Speaker 5: Nico. Nico.
[43:44] Speaker 1: You traded Luke.
[43:49] Speaker 3: And look. They might fire him in the middle of
[43:51] Speaker 3: a game WWE style.
[43:53] Speaker 1: In front of everybody. They go trick him. Like, you
[43:55] Speaker 1: know how it is when they be having people come
[43:57] Speaker 1: out to the midcourt and then they bring back their
[43:59] Speaker 1: families from Kuwait or Afghanistan or one of them places
[44:02] Speaker 1: we be bombing.
[44:03] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? They might have Dirk come
[44:05] Speaker 3: out and hit him with a steel chair.
[44:06] Speaker 1: This is... This is, you traded Luka. And look, as
[44:13] Speaker 1: much as cats like me who grew up rooting for
[44:15] Speaker 1: Atlanta sports for all that time, like how we love Dominique,
[44:20] Speaker 1: we are not white and neither is he. Like the
[44:23] Speaker 1: black people from Dallas, they're a little salty about this.
[44:25] Speaker 1: They think it's stupid. White people from Dallas, and not
[44:29] Speaker 1: even just from Dallas, some of them from Oklahoma because
[44:31] Speaker 1: they used to root for Dallas before they had their
[44:33] Speaker 1: own team. Bruh, no, no. I just, I don't know
[44:37] Speaker 1: how he thought This was going to end, right? He's like, hey,
[44:40] Speaker 1: you know, we're going to see. No, you're going to
[44:42] Speaker 1: get fired. So I don't really understand why it is
[44:46] Speaker 1: that they are waiting. Go ahead and get that done
[44:49] Speaker 1: right now. What will be done eventually should be done immediately.
[44:56] Speaker 1: So as soon as he made that trade, he should
[44:58] Speaker 1: have been like, hey, okay, we press send on the trade.
[45:03] Speaker 1: And let me get that. Let me get your ID, buddy.
[45:05] Speaker 1: Go ahead. Yeah, like as soon as he made that trade,
[45:09] Speaker 1: they should have been like, yeah, go ahead and make
[45:10] Speaker 1: the trade. Don't forget to bring your laptop and your key. Now,
[45:15] Speaker 1: of course, I guess that means they could have stopped
[45:17] Speaker 1: him from making the trade also. But damn, like damn, damn.
[45:27] Speaker 3: All right, Bo, let's get to some voicemail. A lot
[45:31] Speaker 3: of good submissions. Here's our first.
[45:33] Speaker 7: Yeah, what's going on, Bermondi? This is Stefan calling from Chicago.
[45:36] Speaker 7: I appreciate all the good content you provide to me.
[45:40] Speaker 7: Get me through my workday on an almost daily basis.
[45:43] Speaker 7: The question I have, previously you've mentioned your all-time favorite
[45:47] Speaker 7: television show being The Simpsons. Like you, this is also
[45:50] Speaker 7: my favorite. However, I, too, have not really followed it
[45:53] Speaker 7: in the last 20 years, even though it's pretty much
[45:55] Speaker 7: been around my whole life. I've been looking towards the past.
[45:59] Speaker 7: What would you consider your favorite character, and why isn't
[46:01] Speaker 7: it Sideshow Bob? Thanks for taking my question.
[46:04] Speaker 4: Appreciate you.
[46:04] Speaker 3: All right.
[46:06] Speaker 1: Sideshow Bob is an amazing construction, right? Like the idea
[46:11] Speaker 1: that you are this classically trained actor and you are
[46:14] Speaker 1: stuck riding shotgun to Krusty the Cloud, right? Like everything
[46:20] Speaker 1: about him. My favorite Simpsons character is... tough tough tough
[46:24] Speaker 1: I'm a big Barty Gumbel fan though you remember the
[46:26] Speaker 1: time that Maggie got lost and over over Bart had
[46:29] Speaker 1: to try to find Maggie and um somehow but but
[46:33] Speaker 1: Barty wanted to cook breakfast and over is like Barty
[46:36] Speaker 1: we gotta find Maggie are you sure I bought a
[46:38] Speaker 1: big omelets no we gotta find Maggie are you sure
[46:41] Speaker 1: I make them with three kinds of cheese then I
[46:44] Speaker 1: run around the house and Barty's looking under the porch
[46:49] Speaker 1: and he's reaching under because he thinks he's seen Maggie's
[46:51] Speaker 1: arm and he's yanking it. And Homer's like, yo, you're
[46:53] Speaker 1: going to yank her arm out. And Barty's like, the
[46:55] Speaker 1: sooner we get her out of here, the sooner we
[46:58] Speaker 1: get omelets. What? And that is just minor league level, like,
[47:04] Speaker 1: Simpsons humor. I'm a big Moses-like Oh, really? Oh, God, yeah.
[47:09] Speaker 1: I'd say, if you call this place one more time,
[47:10] Speaker 1: I'm going to cut your head off. I'm going to
[47:12] Speaker 1: rip your head off. I'm going to use your head
[47:15] Speaker 1: as a bucket and paint the wall with your brains. Oh, okay. Wow. Also, Mr.
[47:23] Speaker 2: Burns.
[47:23] Speaker 1: There's just a handful of characters that it's just like, yeah,
[47:25] Speaker 1: every time they talk.
[47:26] Speaker 2: It's funny.
[47:27] Speaker 5: Mr.
[47:27] Speaker 1: Burns?
[47:27] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's how I am with Mr.
[47:29] Speaker 5: Burns.
[47:29] Speaker 1: My man Willie? Groundskeeper Willie? So, let me tell you this.
[47:33] Speaker 1: This is my new favorite Simpsons thing. You'll love this.
[47:36] Speaker 1: My Spanish teacher, mi profesora. Ella estoy en Colombia. See?
[47:42] Speaker 1: She lives in Colombia. And she apparently loves The Simpsons.
[47:47] Speaker 1: It was explaining to me that they got The Simpsons
[47:51] Speaker 1: in all of this, but I don't remember why she
[47:53] Speaker 1: just brought it up and mentioned Groundskeeper Willie. Imagine the accent.
[47:58] Speaker 1: Imagine Groundskeeper Willie in the Groundskeeper Willie accent, but he's
[48:03] Speaker 1: speaking Spanish.
[48:04] Speaker 3: That's incredible.
[48:05] Speaker 1: Like, is that really a thing? It appears to be
[48:08] Speaker 1: a thing.
[48:09] Speaker 3: All right. Here's our next one.
[48:12] Speaker 5: Oh, what's going on, man? This is Charles from D.C. Hey, man.
[48:16] Speaker 5: So I got a crazy story. Well, a funny story, rather.
[48:19] Speaker 5: My dad always likes to tell. He's in college at
[48:23] Speaker 5: Bowie State. And he's the tallest dude on his team.
[48:30] Speaker 5: And his center gets injured. So he's like, all right.
[48:35] Speaker 5: I'll play center. It just so happened to be that
[48:39] Speaker 5: they go against Old Dominion. And I don't know if
[48:44] Speaker 5: you know who played there, but it happens to be
[48:48] Speaker 5: an NBA player by the name of, you guessed it,
[48:52] Speaker 5: Charles Oakley.
[48:54] Speaker 4: So they go to play the game.
[48:58] Speaker 5: And Charles Oakley is bodying my pops, you know, and
[49:03] Speaker 5: he said.
[49:03] Speaker 6: Man, He got about 40 on me, and he got
[49:08] Speaker 6: 10 rebounds, too. I tried to do everything I could,
[49:14] Speaker 6: and there was nothing I could do against him, but
[49:18] Speaker 6: you know I got my.
[49:20] Speaker 2: 20 though I'm like Pops no no you let Charles
[49:25] Speaker 2: Oakley put up 40 points on you yeah yeah so
[49:29] Speaker 2: what I got my 20.
[49:31] Speaker 5: Though and he loved telling that story alright thanks again
[49:39] Speaker 5: You have a good day, bro.
[49:40] Speaker 1: All right. Appreciate you, brother. First of all, no shade
[49:43] Speaker 1: to you on this, just to help you out the
[49:44] Speaker 1: next time. Oakley actually went to Virginia Union. But if
[49:49] Speaker 1: I were telling that story and I was his father,
[49:54] Speaker 1: I would just leave out the he gave me 40 part. Like,
[49:57] Speaker 1: either this is a story about Charles Oakley giving you
[49:59] Speaker 1: 40 or about you giving Charles Oakley 20.
[50:02] Speaker 3: Right. Just switch the order.
[50:05] Speaker 5: Yes.
[50:05] Speaker 1: And also... not to cast any aspersions on your father,
[50:13] Speaker 1: but I'm going to need to see a box score
[50:16] Speaker 1: about this 20 that your father supposedly got on six
[50:20] Speaker 1: foot eight Charles Oakley. Like, I don't know how tall
[50:22] Speaker 1: your dad is, right? Like I'm just saying, but I
[50:24] Speaker 1: would like to, my brother's got a friend that held
[50:27] Speaker 1: Michael Jordan to 14 in college once. And my brother
[50:31] Speaker 1: cast the aspersions, but we looked it up. He held
[50:34] Speaker 1: him to 14. Now, granted, it was before the shot clock,
[50:37] Speaker 1: but he did hold him to 14.
[50:39] Speaker 3: I would love to see that like shot chart of
[50:42] Speaker 3: Charles Oakley. It's just dots right around that. Yes.
[50:45] Speaker 1: Yes. I also don't imagine, by the way, that Charles
[50:48] Speaker 1: Oakley just let you get 20. Right. Like I especially
[50:52] Speaker 1: with the what the rules were 40 years ago. That
[50:55] Speaker 1: seems like clothesline time. I'd also like to take a
[50:58] Speaker 1: moment as I went to the Charles Oakley wiki page
[51:01] Speaker 1: while we were here. to read a section that I
[51:05] Speaker 1: didn't know existed called Coaching and Businesses. On December 26, 2010,
[51:11] Speaker 1: Oakley was hired as an assistant coach for the Bobcats
[51:15] Speaker 1: under then head coach Paul Silas. And holy shit, I
[51:18] Speaker 1: wish I had known that that was going on at
[51:20] Speaker 1: the time. Oh, okay. He only stayed on that job
[51:22] Speaker 1: for about a year, but I can't think of anything
[51:25] Speaker 1: more terrifying than Charles Oakley and Paul Silas As the
[51:30] Speaker 1: same coaching staff, I bet they was on time every day.
[51:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, talk about a tag team.
[51:36] Speaker 1: Oh my God. Each of them could win a handicap match.
[51:39] Speaker 1: And both of them love to fight people. Love to.
[51:43] Speaker 1: Good gracious. But this is why I stopped on it.
[51:46] Speaker 1: Oakley owns several commercial enterprises, including Hair Solutions and Nails Etc.
[51:52] Speaker 1: in East Cleveland, Ohio. He's from Cleveland. Salon started with
[51:55] Speaker 1: seed money from Oakley and run by his sisters. It's
[51:59] Speaker 1: a good dude. Now, let's get to a couple of
[52:02] Speaker 1: things that seem a little bit more Oakley. Actually, before
[52:05] Speaker 1: we get there, read the steakhouse restaurants in Cleveland and
[52:08] Speaker 1: South Beach. And I got to say, I do not
[52:10] Speaker 1: think of Charles Oakley and the steakhouse in the same sentence, right? Like,
[52:16] Speaker 1: you want me to go there? I bet there's a
[52:17] Speaker 1: big old picture of Michael Jordan in the front. But
[52:20] Speaker 1: these are the businesses that seem more in line. All right.
[52:23] Speaker 1: Oakley's Car Wash, Oil Change, and Detail Centers in Brighton Beach, Brooklyn,
[52:27] Speaker 1: and Yonkers, New York. Yep. That sounds like Charles Oakley.
[52:31] Speaker 1: And Oakley's Wash House, a combination car wash and laundromat
[52:36] Speaker 1: founded in East Cleveland, Ohio, overseen by his sister Carolyn
[52:41] Speaker 1: and his mother, Corrine. And let me tell you something.
[52:44] Speaker 1: That's how you know that all them Oakleys is gangster.
[52:46] Speaker 1: Because you don't want to mess with whoever run the
[52:49] Speaker 1: car wash. And his sister's. Run the car wash. You
[52:54] Speaker 1: know who else runs a car wash, Ryan? I give
[52:57] Speaker 1: you a hint. We did not talk about him on
[53:01] Speaker 1: our last show.
[53:02] Speaker 5: Copy.
[53:02] Speaker 3: Got it. Got it.
[53:05] Speaker 1: You know who I'm talking about? Yes. That boy Harv.
[53:10] Speaker 3: Yes.
[53:11] Speaker 1: All right.
[53:12] Speaker 3: Here's our last voicemail.
[53:14] Speaker 4: Hey, Bo, this is TJ from Illinois. I was just
[53:17] Speaker 4: calling because I had a story not about me stealing,
[53:21] Speaker 4: but about a coworker of mine. When I was 18, 19,
[53:23] Speaker 4: I worked at a Taco Bell. And so basically the
[53:28] Speaker 4: scam that employees that would run, not me, but other
[53:32] Speaker 4: employees would run is, They would know the prices.
[53:34] Speaker 3: Of things on the menu.
[53:35] Speaker 4: And so when you pulled around, they would know the price.
[53:39] Speaker 4: So you'd go up there, tell them your food order.
[53:42] Speaker 4: They'd know what the price was. And then they would
[53:43] Speaker 4: say that the credit card machine was down. And then
[53:46] Speaker 4: they would just tell you what the amount was. You
[53:48] Speaker 4: had to pay cash. But what they were doing was
[53:50] Speaker 4: because they knew the cash, they'd never put it in
[53:51] Speaker 4: the computer and they would just keep the cash or whatever.
[53:54] Speaker 4: So this has been going on for a while. Everybody
[53:55] Speaker 4: kind of knew what was going on. That was an employee,
[53:57] Speaker 4: but not management. So it ended up being found out because,
[54:01] Speaker 4: of course, someone got mad at somebody else, and so
[54:04] Speaker 4: they told. And so when the big manager came to
[54:06] Speaker 4: town or whatever and was asking questions, of course, people
[54:09] Speaker 4: started snitching or whatever. So one of the people that
[54:12] Speaker 4: I worked with wanted to say their job, so they
[54:14] Speaker 4: told on the main person with this. And so when
[54:17] Speaker 4: it came time for her to ask about the thing,
[54:19] Speaker 4: of course, he denied it, denied it, denied it. So,
[54:22] Speaker 4: lo and behold, when she went to go and walk
[54:26] Speaker 4: around the thing, he reached in his pocket, a lot
[54:28] Speaker 4: of cash fell out. So, of course, that started all
[54:30] Speaker 4: the questions or whatever. And so she informed him, this gentleman, like,
[54:34] Speaker 4: you are no longer an employee of this Taco Bell.
[54:37] Speaker 4: So whenever he went through this, started hemming and hawing
[54:40] Speaker 4: and crying. And then so his final solution to keep
[54:44] Speaker 4: his job was to ask her, like, do you have
[54:46] Speaker 4: any way in your heart for forgiveness or whatever? And
[54:49] Speaker 4: so her answer to this story was, Well, you know,
[54:53] Speaker 4: I can't forgive you. Maybe when you get to the
[54:55] Speaker 4: pearly gates, the Lord will forgive you, but I have
[54:58] Speaker 4: no forgiveness for you. I just wanted to share that
[55:00] Speaker 4: with you or whatever. Been a long time listener. Appreciate
[55:02] Speaker 4: everything you do. Have a great day.
[55:06] Speaker 3: Amen.
[55:06] Speaker 1: I appreciate you, brother. And I have worked at a
[55:11] Speaker 1: place where a similar thing has happened. Ever heard the
[55:16] Speaker 1: phrase quit while you're ahead? I suggest another one in
[55:22] Speaker 1: that case, which is quit before you go to jail.
[55:25] Speaker 1: Can I keep my, nah, brother, that was a felony.
[55:29] Speaker 1: You needed to get up out of that Taco Bell pronto, right?
[55:34] Speaker 1: Anybody else that was engaged in those shenanigans needed to, like,
[55:38] Speaker 1: you could decide how bad you wanted that last check,
[55:40] Speaker 1: but you needed to not come back to work. Like,
[55:42] Speaker 1: I was, you was really chancing the fates on that one. Ooh,
[55:46] Speaker 1: especially in the credit card era, because you got to
[55:47] Speaker 1: have a whole different level of premeditation, you know what
[55:50] Speaker 1: I mean? Also, by the way, the best character on
[55:53] Speaker 1: The Simpsons might actually be all the stuff in the background. Right.
[55:57] Speaker 1: Have you seen the one? And this is actually New Simpsons.
[56:00] Speaker 1: And I saw somebody send a clip of it. It's
[56:01] Speaker 1: a sign in front of a store. It says, read, seed,
[56:04] Speaker 1: and feed. Formerly Chucks. Take your time and think about it,
[56:10] Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Write it down if you must. But
[56:12] Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here
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