# Vernon Maxwell GOES OFF on Celtics trading Jaylen Brown, Spurs Collapse vs. Knicks | 07.09

An episode of [The Right Time with Bomani Jones](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/982639043), 9 Jul 2026, 50 min.

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Bomani Jones is joined by Vernon “Mad Max” Maxwell for a long, funny, and extremely candid NBA conversation on this episode of The Right Time. Maxwell returns to the show to talk about his second act in sports media, how he still trains like a player, and why he believes some of the biggest storylines in the league are being misunderstood. Bomani and Max dive deep into the Jalen Brown conversation, including why Maxwell remains so high on Brown as a player, why he thinks the criticism has gone too far, and what Brown could look like in Philadelphia alongside Tyrese Maxey and Joel Embiid. They also get into what Boston may have gotten wrong, whether Jayson Tatum should have done more to keep Brown around, and why the Celtics’ decision still doesn’t sit right with Max. The conversation also covers Hakeem Olajuwon’s one-of-one greatness, Giannis Antetokounmpo trade speculation involving the Miami Heat, LeBron James’ future after the Lakers, the appeal of a Jokic-LeBron fit in Denver, LaMelo Ball’s evolution, Jalen Brunson’s footwork and mentality, and why Victor Wembanyama could be on the verge of becoming the face of the NBA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Wave.
[0:09] Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
[0:13] Speaker 2: My name is Bobani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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[0:19] Speaker 2: rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only
[0:21] Speaker 2: give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are
[0:24] Speaker 2: a hater. It is that time of week where we
[0:26] Speaker 2: have a guest join us. I don't know how it
[0:29] Speaker 2: is that this is only the second time that we've
[0:31] Speaker 2: had my man on. First time back since 2021 NBA champion.
[0:33] Speaker 2: Check him out. On All the Smoke, Vernon Maxwell. What's
[0:39] Speaker 2: going on?
[0:39] Speaker 3: Hey, my brother. What's going on, Vimani, man? Thanks for
[0:42] Speaker 3: having me on again.
[0:43] Speaker 4: You know, every damn time you call for me and
[0:46] Speaker 4: you ask for Vernon Maxwell, you know I'm coming, man. But, like,
[0:49] Speaker 4: we was talking about, unless you want to wait, but
[0:52] Speaker 4: we were talking about this before the show.
[0:55] Speaker 3: Me and you just, you brought it up. Now, you
[0:58] Speaker 3: really one of the reasons how I blew up.
[1:01] Speaker 4: Just to give you all the, I got to give
[1:04] Speaker 4: it up where it came from. And Your show, when
[1:08] Speaker 4: you had me on the first time, this is the
[1:11] Speaker 4: second time.
[1:12] Speaker 3: But the first.
[1:13] Speaker 4: Time is really how everybody got to know how Mad
[1:16] Speaker 4: Max really was and the Lajuan story and all that shit.
[1:21] Speaker 4: So appreciate you, my brother.
[1:24] Speaker 3: I had to say that to you, though. We wanted
[1:26] Speaker 3: to say that to you.
[1:27] Speaker 2: I appreciate you. And the funny part that I don't
[1:29] Speaker 2: think we had talked about that part of how this
[1:31] Speaker 2: happened was I had you do a cameo for my
[1:34] Speaker 2: brother for his birthday. And I was like, oh, wait,
[1:38] Speaker 2: Max out here?
[1:39] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:39] Speaker 2: And so it was like during COVID and all this,
[1:41] Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, let's get Max on. Let's just see
[1:43] Speaker 2: how this goes. Because we normally don't do a lot
[1:45] Speaker 2: of interviews on here with people that I don't really,
[1:48] Speaker 2: really know. You know what I mean? And so that
[1:51] Speaker 2: went so well. I was like, oh, man, now I
[1:53] Speaker 2: look up, you all with Matt and Steven. And I
[1:55] Speaker 2: got to say, that's trouble. That's three times the trouble
[1:58] Speaker 2: right there with y'all on the same squad.
[1:59] Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, they're my brothers right there. I love going
[2:02] Speaker 4: out and being live with them, man. I mean, it's
[2:06] Speaker 4: just a great time.
[2:07] Speaker 3: Every time we get on there together. Hey, boys, they
[2:10] Speaker 3: let us be how we want to be. It's a
[2:13] Speaker 3: wonderful time, man, with all the smoke.
[2:15] Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you this one thing before we
[2:16] Speaker 2: get into the NBA stuff, right? Is somebody going to
[2:19] Speaker 2: do that pause thing? Because that's what the kids do
[2:20] Speaker 2: these days. But, dog, you be on the internet looking
[2:23] Speaker 2: like you still play basketball. Like, you now what? How
[2:29] Speaker 2: old are you now?
[2:29] Speaker 3: Shit, I'm 69, Ramon.
[2:31] Speaker 2: Dog, that's what I'm saying. How is this possible? What
[2:33] Speaker 2: is the workout regimen that you are engaging in?
[2:36] Speaker 3: Man, I'm working out. I work out all the time, man.
[2:40] Speaker 4: I get up before everybody get up, get it done,
[2:43] Speaker 4: do my sit-ups and my push-ups and weight room and
[2:46] Speaker 4: then come back and get on the Peloton and ride
[2:49] Speaker 4: the Peloton about five days out the week and do
[2:53] Speaker 4: all my abs and everything. I just keep myself, but
[2:55] Speaker 4: I eat like shit though now. I eat every motherfucking thing.
[3:00] Speaker 4: Fried foods, all kinds of shit. I just had fried
[3:02] Speaker 4: pork chops last night. I know people like pork chops.
[3:05] Speaker 3: This nigga eating pork.
[3:06] Speaker 2: Yeah, pork.
[3:08] Speaker 4: Fried fucking pork chops last night between a piece of
[3:11] Speaker 4: goddamn bread and hot sauce.
[3:13] Speaker 3: That's right. I eat bad.
[3:16] Speaker 2: You the dude that women hate, right? You're out here
[3:18] Speaker 2: doing all of this and there appears to be no
[3:21] Speaker 2: evidence of any of it.
[3:22] Speaker 3: Yes, man. No, I'm getting it in.
[3:25] Speaker 4: I love eating where I can eat anything and it
[3:29] Speaker 4: don't show.
[3:30] Speaker 1: So, yeah.
[3:32] Speaker 2: Well, yo, tell me this. How were you enjoying doing
[3:33] Speaker 2: the media stuff? Because I didn't get the feeling that
[3:36] Speaker 2: you were a dude who saw himself as somebody who
[3:37] Speaker 2: would wind up in media when it came down to it.
[3:41] Speaker 3: I know, but mine ain't got down, man.
[3:42] Speaker 4: It was, I mean, it was just, like, my guy Cam, man.
[3:47] Speaker 4: You know, Cam, he just kept pushing it. He kept saying, Max, man,
[3:51] Speaker 4: you'll be good, man. You'll be good in that space.
[3:54] Speaker 4: You need to, like, you know, just give it a chance.
[3:57] Speaker 3: Give it a chance. And I was asking him shit.
[4:00] Speaker 3: At first, I was like, Shit, well, how much is
[4:02] Speaker 3: that shit going to cost me?
[4:04] Speaker 4: That's what the fuck I'm asking.
[4:06] Speaker 3: You know, I was asking, how much is that shit
[4:08] Speaker 3: going to cost me?
[4:09] Speaker 4: And he was like, Max, it ain't going to cost
[4:11] Speaker 4: you nothing, man. Just let me, give me a chance.
[4:13] Speaker 4: Let me reach out and try to get you a
[4:15] Speaker 4: couple sponsors.
[4:17] Speaker 3: And he did.
[4:18] Speaker 4: And when I did the first guy, it was Iverson.
[4:23] Speaker 4: I was like, shit, I kind of like that shit.
[4:25] Speaker 4: It was kind of like a rush for me. And
[4:28] Speaker 4: then now it doesn't like calm down for me though.
[4:30] Speaker 4: But now it was like a rush when I first
[4:32] Speaker 4: started and I was a little nervous and shit. I
[4:35] Speaker 4: had a little nervousness and all this shit going on.
[4:38] Speaker 4: But now I just, I love it, man, where I
[4:40] Speaker 4: can interview and get interviewed. And you know what I mean?
[4:44] Speaker 4: And cause I mean, I got a space now where
[4:47] Speaker 4: I can, I can, I can say something, you know,
[4:49] Speaker 4: and I, and I enjoy motherfuckers being able to say
[4:53] Speaker 4: what I want to say. And then I got a
[4:55] Speaker 4: lot of people that want to hear what the.
[4:57] Speaker 3: Fuck I got to say. And, you know, I mean,
[5:02] Speaker 3: I'm happy about that, too.
[5:04] Speaker 4: So that's the real reason, though, for mine. It's because
[5:10] Speaker 4: I got a space now I can say what the
[5:12] Speaker 4: fuck I want to say. And I got people want
[5:15] Speaker 4: to hear what the fuck I.
[5:16] Speaker 2: Got to say. Well, I want to ask you this.
[5:18] Speaker 2: Start with the NBA stuff. We've been talking a lot
[5:20] Speaker 2: about the Jalen Brown trade and everything that went on
[5:24] Speaker 2: around what was going on there. My first question is,
[5:27] Speaker 2: what do you think about him as a player? Because
[5:30] Speaker 2: he's the guy that there's the gap between what a
[5:32] Speaker 2: lot of the numbers tell you and what a lot
[5:34] Speaker 2: of the eyeballs tell you, which means the answer is
[5:36] Speaker 2: probably somewhere in the middle.
[5:37] Speaker 4: But see, I'm not an analytics guy. See, I ain't
[5:40] Speaker 4: in that shit.
[5:41] Speaker 3: I know what I see. I done that motherfucking flow
[5:44] Speaker 3: of the money.
[5:45] Speaker 4: That motherfucker is a killer.
[5:47] Speaker 3: You hear me?
[5:48] Speaker 4: This motherfucker is a killer. I love this kid, man.
[5:52] Speaker 4: I love everything about him. I mean, everything he represents.
[5:56] Speaker 4: I mean, on and off the floor. I mean, man,
[5:59] Speaker 4: got freedom of speech, man. Say what the fuck you want.
[6:02] Speaker 4: And he ain't saying nothing crazy. I mean, he's just
[6:05] Speaker 4: really like a shit. Just like, I mean, I wish
[6:08] Speaker 4: I would have did it more when I was playing shit.
[6:12] Speaker 4: For you to hear me say that, shit said what
[6:14] Speaker 4: the fuck I really wanted to say. And shit sold.
[6:18] Speaker 3: I just, I shit. Basketball player, man, I just think
[6:22] Speaker 3: he's one of the, he in my top five, you know,
[6:25] Speaker 3: basketball player.
[6:26] Speaker 2: Oh, you got him top five.
[6:27] Speaker 3: Yeah, I got him top five. I love him, man.
[6:30] Speaker 4: I mean, seeing what he did last year, the way
[6:33] Speaker 4: he carried that team, man.
[6:35] Speaker 3: I mean, he did, they did.
[6:38] Speaker 4: A lot of people disrespect him because of all, I mean,
[6:42] Speaker 4: I guess the outside noise is outside the basketball court.
[6:45] Speaker 4: you know, when he get to talk in that talk,
[6:47] Speaker 4: cause it's very intelligent guy, you know what I mean? And,
[6:50] Speaker 4: and I, that's what I love to see, you know,
[6:54] Speaker 4: a very intelligent black man. I mean, really knows what
[6:57] Speaker 4: the fuck he's talking about. And he just not up
[7:00] Speaker 4: here just talking, you know what I mean? And then he,
[7:03] Speaker 4: and then he can back it up too. Cause I'm
[7:06] Speaker 4: just saying, he's just not up here talking. So that
[7:09] Speaker 4: part right there, but, um, I love everything about that kid, man.
[7:13] Speaker 4: I mean, um, he's going to be well, man. He's
[7:16] Speaker 4: going to do well over there in Philly, man.
[7:17] Speaker 3: God damn. They just gave that motherfucker away, man. Good God.
[7:22] Speaker 2: Well, so the thing that gets me about him, I'm
[7:23] Speaker 2: curious what you think about this because I feel like
[7:25] Speaker 2: in public perception, we went through waves. Like three years ago,
[7:28] Speaker 2: all we talked about how he couldn't dribble because that
[7:31] Speaker 2: is not what he is best at, right? We agree
[7:33] Speaker 2: with that. He'll dribble his ass into trouble and he
[7:35] Speaker 2: kept dribbling his ass into trouble. And then the next year,
[7:37] Speaker 2: he wins conference finals MVP. He wins finals MVP. 2025,
[7:42] Speaker 2: I feel like we don't even really Tatum tearing his
[7:45] Speaker 2: Achilles was such a big deal that it just kind of,
[7:48] Speaker 2: it didn't even matter what the discussion was from there.
[7:50] Speaker 2: And then this last year at once, he carried them
[7:53] Speaker 2: to those 60 wins. And then they blew that series
[7:55] Speaker 2: lead at three one against Philadelphia. So for me, I
[7:59] Speaker 2: can never exactly know how I feel about him, except
[8:02] Speaker 2: the thing I feel like is what he can do
[8:04] Speaker 2: is get you 35 when you need it. And that's
[8:06] Speaker 2: an important thing to be able to do.
[8:08] Speaker 3: And that's what the NBA is about right now. I mean,
[8:11] Speaker 3: when you need a bucket, You.
[8:13] Speaker 4: Need a mother and father just like that to give
[8:15] Speaker 4: him the rock and go get him one. And that's
[8:18] Speaker 4: what the NBA is right now.
[8:20] Speaker 3: I mean, shit.
[8:21] Speaker 4: I mean, a lot of inconsistency going on in the
[8:24] Speaker 4: damn NBA too. I mean, I think we're talking about
[8:28] Speaker 4: analytics and shit.
[8:29] Speaker 3: But, I mean, the NBA is different right now for me.
[8:36] Speaker 3: You know what I mean? It's very different.
[8:39] Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this, because I think there's
[8:41] Speaker 2: one thing that I think is interesting in the numbers
[8:43] Speaker 2: that people point out that it sounds like analytics, but
[8:45] Speaker 2: it's pretty simple. It's just the idea that just by
[8:48] Speaker 2: point scored the last few years, the Celtics have been
[8:51] Speaker 2: better when he wasn't on the floor than when he
[8:54] Speaker 2: was on the floor. And I do think that's interesting.
[8:56] Speaker 2: I don't know how to tease all that out necessarily, but.
[9:00] Speaker 3: See, that's what I'm saying.
[9:01] Speaker 2: You know what I mean? But I also feel like
[9:02] Speaker 2: part of that is Mizzou will be having them other
[9:04] Speaker 2: dudes play extra hard. So when it's a bunch of
[9:06] Speaker 2: bench dudes in there and he's not in there, it's
[9:09] Speaker 2: them go-hard cats. And that matters a lot in the
[9:11] Speaker 2: regular season. It don't matter as much in the playoffs.
[9:13] Speaker 3: Right, right, right. And I agree with that. But the coach, Mizzou,
[9:17] Speaker 3: I love him.
[9:18] Speaker 4: He's a great coach. I mean, that is a weird stat, right?
[9:23] Speaker 4: When they came on, I would have never thought that shit.
[9:26] Speaker 4: If you'd have told me just saying that, that's what
[9:30] Speaker 4: analytics say.
[9:32] Speaker 3: But damn, that's wild for me.
[9:34] Speaker 4: I don't understand it, but it didn't seem that way
[9:38] Speaker 4: when I was watching the game. But shit, I thought
[9:40] Speaker 4: they needed him out there on the mother-of-a-bother floor to
[9:43] Speaker 4: be able to win. So they said, I guess they didn't.
[9:45] Speaker 4: So that's why it was an easy damn thing. decision
[9:49] Speaker 4: for him to get rid of his ass. But I
[9:51] Speaker 4: don't think that was a great decision. I mean, no
[9:54] Speaker 4: disrespect to Paul George. Everybody been disrespecting Paul George.
[9:58] Speaker 3: But I mean, PG, shit.
[10:01] Speaker 4: Keep doing what you're doing. Keep getting them goddamn checks. And,
[10:04] Speaker 4: I mean, shit, I mean, keep hooping, man.
[10:08] Speaker 3: I mean, but more power to you, brother.
[10:11] Speaker 4: I mean, I'd like to see the brothers get this
[10:13] Speaker 4: money and keep getting it, man. Shit, just like, I mean, so,
[10:17] Speaker 4: but nah, but Jalen Brown, man, I love the guy, man.
[10:21] Speaker 4: Great ball player and great person on the floor. He
[10:24] Speaker 4: had my top five.
[10:27] Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to throw something else at you that
[10:28] Speaker 2: may surprise you, because I talked about this the last
[10:31] Speaker 2: show we did, where there are certain guys where the
[10:34] Speaker 2: advanced numbers do not match up to what is obvious
[10:36] Speaker 2: to us. Isaiah Thomas is an example of that in
[10:39] Speaker 2: the past. Anthony Edwards is another guy where those numbers
[10:42] Speaker 2: don't quite match up. Jason Tatum, for what it's worth,
[10:44] Speaker 2: is another guy that's like that. But a guy near
[10:48] Speaker 2: and dear to your heart that may surprise you that
[10:50] Speaker 2: is actually like this also is Akeem Olajuwon. You go
[10:54] Speaker 2: look at a lot of the advanced numbers on Akeem Olajuwon,
[10:56] Speaker 2: like you put Akeem Olajuwon next to David Robinson with
[10:59] Speaker 2: those numbers, and David Robinson destroys him every time, except
[11:03] Speaker 2: we were there in 1995. And so none of us
[11:05] Speaker 2: would agree with that assessment.
[11:09] Speaker 3: Hell no.
[11:10] Speaker 4: I don't know how that happened. I mean, I guess
[11:14] Speaker 4: Dream was just bored and shit until he saw these motherfuckers.
[11:18] Speaker 2: Well, Dream used to say that he was bored, right?
[11:19] Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just telling you, man.
[11:21] Speaker 3: He was just bored, man, until he saw these motherfuckers.
[11:24] Speaker 3: And then they just bring out the best in this motherfucker. Jack,
[11:28] Speaker 3: all of them. I can keep going down the line.
[11:30] Speaker 3: He gave it all to every last one of them.
[11:32] Speaker 3: I seen it.
[11:33] Speaker 4: It was like, goddamn, man. Now I think about it, man.
[11:36] Speaker 4: I'd be like, I was taking that shit for granted.
[11:39] Speaker 1: That motherfucker was killing some motherfuckers man I mean all
[11:43] Speaker 1: the top motherfuckers I mean they know who they are
[11:47] Speaker 1: shit I'm.
[11:49] Speaker 2: Trying to think about this with Dream. Can you think
[11:51] Speaker 2: of anybody else where there's literally nobody else like that?
[11:55] Speaker 2: Like we saw Kobe do a reasonable Michael Jordan impression, right?
[11:58] Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that it's an insult to either
[12:01] Speaker 2: of those guys.
[12:01] Speaker 3: No doubt.
[12:02] Speaker 2: All these cats go down there and work out with
[12:04] Speaker 2: Dream and none of them come back looking like they
[12:06] Speaker 2: even met Dream because the only person that could do.
[12:09] Speaker 3: That, and by the way, he wasn't even that tall.
[12:11] Speaker 2: The only person who could do that shit was him.
[12:14] Speaker 4: Yeah, because Dream should have told them motherfuckers first. Hey,
[12:18] Speaker 4: get a soccer ball first. And then learn how to
[12:20] Speaker 4: fuck with that soccer ball first. Then come down here
[12:22] Speaker 4: and see. Because that's what the fuck he was doing
[12:25] Speaker 4: before he was playing.
[12:26] Speaker 3: He was fucking with that soccer ball. It's all feet work.
[12:29] Speaker 3: And that's all.
[12:30] Speaker 4: So Dream should have told him that because, I mean,
[12:33] Speaker 4: he was fucking with that soccer ball. And that soccer ball,
[12:35] Speaker 4: I guess it evolves into basketball feet work with Dream.
[12:39] Speaker 4: And that's why he was being ready to turn like
[12:41] Speaker 4: a goddamn ballerina and let that motherfucker fly falling out
[12:44] Speaker 4: of bounds. I mean, so, I mean, that part right there,
[12:49] Speaker 4: I just don't understand that part either because nobody, like
[12:53] Speaker 4: you said, comes out of that motherfucker and do none
[12:55] Speaker 4: of that shit.
[12:57] Speaker 3: He was doing.
[12:59] Speaker 4: I mean, it makes a motherfucker a bunch of money
[13:01] Speaker 4: being white because, I mean, I wouldn't even, I mean,
[13:04] Speaker 4: not no knock on dream, but shit, I wouldn't even
[13:06] Speaker 4: go out there and fuck a dream cause I know
[13:09] Speaker 4: I ain't gonna be able to perfect that shit, man,
[13:11] Speaker 4: in no motherfucking, no month and a half. You know,
[13:16] Speaker 4: I ain't gonna, you know, a month and shit, I
[13:18] Speaker 4: ain't gonna be able to perfect that. So I might
[13:19] Speaker 4: as well even not waste a month.
[13:22] Speaker 2: Yeah, with the shake. Like, because, see, growing up, all
[13:26] Speaker 2: those cats in Houston that had any size, it was
[13:29] Speaker 2: a bunch of dudes in high school trying to do
[13:31] Speaker 2: an Olajuwon impression. And if you can't do it as
[13:34] Speaker 2: an actual professional, can you imagine, like, being a high
[13:36] Speaker 2: school basketball coach and trying to explain, hey, man, I
[13:39] Speaker 2: need you to just cut that shit out right fast
[13:41] Speaker 2: and let's put it on this drop step.
[13:42] Speaker 3: Ha, ha, ha. Yeah. That's right. Hey, man, stop with
[13:51] Speaker 3: all this shaking shit, man. Just take it. Do the basic, man.
[13:54] Speaker 3: Learn how to do that shit first because.
[13:57] Speaker 4: All that spinning and faking and shimmy shaking and all
[14:00] Speaker 4: that shit, man, and then putting them between your face
[14:02] Speaker 4: and them and then snatching them. You know, he was
[14:05] Speaker 4: good at that. He used to tell me, Maxie, I
[14:09] Speaker 4: snatch him at night.
[14:11] Speaker 3: Face him. Snatch his ass. Snatch him, snatch him. I mean,
[14:16] Speaker 3: straight up snatch him, motherfucker. Face him up. Bam.
[14:21] Speaker 2: Well, that joint where he would do it, where he
[14:23] Speaker 2: would put the ball on the baseline and there's no
[14:24] Speaker 2: way that he could ever go on the baseline, but
[14:26] Speaker 2: he would still run over there with the cameraman and
[14:28] Speaker 2: then he'd come back and hit you with the hook.
[14:30] Speaker 4: I ain't know what he was doing. I thought he
[14:32] Speaker 4: was going at it. That motherfucker, he had to tiptoes.
[14:34] Speaker 4: That motherfucker used to get all over the base. You
[14:36] Speaker 4: think the motherfucker out of bounds, won't you? He'd come
[14:39] Speaker 4: right back the other way with that hook on your ass.
[14:41] Speaker 3: I said, good God almighty, brother.
[14:43] Speaker 4: Dream was amazing, man. That's why I tell everybody, man.
[14:46] Speaker 4: I ain't played with nobody better than him, man.
[14:49] Speaker 3: I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm just saying.
[14:52] Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this, because we didn't get
[14:53] Speaker 2: into it too much when I talked about it before
[14:55] Speaker 2: with Jalen Brown, but him going to Philadelphia is interesting.
[14:58] Speaker 2: But my question is, well, one, we don't know how
[15:00] Speaker 2: much Embiid is going to play, but how does the
[15:03] Speaker 2: ball sharing work out with all three of those guys
[15:06] Speaker 2: in there?
[15:07] Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure they're going to figure that part out.
[15:09] Speaker 3: It's got to be figured out.
[15:10] Speaker 4: I mean, the motherfuckers, all the motherfuckers been playing for
[15:13] Speaker 4: a little while.
[15:15] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
[15:16] Speaker 4: Once they get out there on the floor, they're going
[15:17] Speaker 4: to feel it and see. You know, Maxie got to
[15:20] Speaker 4: stay being Maxie because if he change, his shit going
[15:23] Speaker 4: to look strange. So he got to continue being himself.
[15:28] Speaker 4: And Jalen Brown is going to automatically know how to
[15:30] Speaker 4: fit the fuck in. You know, because this motherfucker just
[15:33] Speaker 4: know how to play. Like I just said, he in
[15:36] Speaker 4: my top five. He just know how to play. So
[15:39] Speaker 4: he gonna fit the fuck in. And so Eshka, the
[15:44] Speaker 4: young boy, he gonna have to figure it out.
[15:47] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
[15:48] Speaker 4: But he gonna have his little runs and shit where
[15:51] Speaker 4: he get a little, where he have good games and stuff. But,
[15:55] Speaker 4: you know, he gotta take a couple of seats back.
[15:57] Speaker 4: You know, it's a big dog in him, this motherfucker.
[16:02] Speaker 3: You know, big J.B. I mean, so, you know, we got, well,
[16:06] Speaker 3: we respect what the young boy have done as a rookie.
[16:09] Speaker 3: I mean, a lot of growth, you know, played well
[16:12] Speaker 3: in the playoffs, so shit.
[16:13] Speaker 4: We respect all that, but JB coming in there, so
[16:16] Speaker 4: we got to take a backseat to that.
[16:18] Speaker 3: And then I'm just saying, MB, so we don't know
[16:24] Speaker 3: how many motherfucking games this motherfucker play. So, I mean,
[16:28] Speaker 3: we don't know what this motherfucker doing right now. See
[16:31] Speaker 3: what I'm saying?
[16:32] Speaker 4: We don't know what this motherfucker doing, my man. I
[16:34] Speaker 4: don't know what this motherfucker doing. I mean, is he
[16:37] Speaker 4: in the gym?
[16:38] Speaker 3: Is he rehabbing?
[16:39] Speaker 4: Is he trying to get all that weight off him?
[16:41] Speaker 4: I mean, so we know the basketball player, when he healthy.
[16:45] Speaker 3: He's good.
[16:46] Speaker 4: Mind you, this motherfucker is good. He's one of the
[16:48] Speaker 4: top bigs in the motherfucking league.
[16:51] Speaker 3: Damn. What?
[16:53] Speaker 4: Is he going to be healthy? That's the damn thing
[16:55] Speaker 4: with him now. You know, that motherfucker was one of
[16:57] Speaker 4: the top players. He was going to be the face
[16:59] Speaker 4: of the fucking NBA at one point. This motherfucker just
[17:02] Speaker 4: stayed hurt.
[17:03] Speaker 3: I mean, come on.
[17:04] Speaker 2: Dude, I forget that he plays for them because you
[17:07] Speaker 2: just can't count on it. You know what I mean?
[17:08] Speaker 2: Not like I don't actually forget, but it's not something
[17:11] Speaker 2: that you can just bet on when you make your
[17:12] Speaker 2: decisions about what the Sixers are going to do or
[17:14] Speaker 2: try to come up with some assessment of what it's
[17:16] Speaker 2: going to be at the end. It was a shock
[17:18] Speaker 2: that he played as much as he did in the
[17:19] Speaker 2: postseason when it happened. It was like, oh, that's right.
[17:21] Speaker 3: He does still play. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that was.
[17:24] Speaker 3: That is. That's right.
[17:26] Speaker 4: I felt like he kind of like takes away from Maxie.
[17:33] Speaker 4: when he plays because he has to have the ball
[17:35] Speaker 4: and you know, so much. And Max is, you know,
[17:40] Speaker 4: a ball dominant guy too, you know. I mean, but
[17:43] Speaker 4: he knows how to play off the ball too.
[17:44] Speaker 1: Max, he know how to play.
[17:46] Speaker 3: You know, he know how to play. You can tell
[17:47] Speaker 3: he's a well coached, that motherfucker, he know how to
[17:49] Speaker 3: play off the ball too.
[17:50] Speaker 4: But yeah, and Big, man, he just, we just don't
[17:54] Speaker 4: know how many motherfucking games this motherfucker gonna play. If
[17:56] Speaker 4: he can get healthy and he can play with these guys, man,
[17:59] Speaker 4: at least, Them 85% of them goddamn games.
[18:02] Speaker 3: Man, I think they're going to be tough. That's going
[18:04] Speaker 3: to be a tough team.
[18:06] Speaker 2: What do you think about the Celtics? Because I don't
[18:08] Speaker 2: think you can argue. Even with the on-off stuff, it's
[18:11] Speaker 2: hard to argue that you got better trading Jalen Brown
[18:14] Speaker 2: for year 17 Paul George.
[18:17] Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't understand that one.
[18:22] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[18:23] Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's something that J.B., he was
[18:28] Speaker 4: some feathers or something. when he started doing on this
[18:32] Speaker 4: little podcast thing he was doing. And I think he
[18:37] Speaker 4: said some shit about some people that they didn't like.
[18:41] Speaker 4: And they just, and then, I mean, they was, I mean,
[18:45] Speaker 4: the guy came on, Brad came on, Stevenson said, you know, man,
[18:51] Speaker 4: we got an open door policy and all this bullshit. Nigga,
[18:54] Speaker 4: you know, at the same time, Bruff, you're out there
[18:55] Speaker 4: trying to get rid of this motherfucker.
[18:57] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
[18:58] Speaker 4: The same guy, the time you said that shit on ESPN,
[19:00] Speaker 4: you're getting rid of it. You're trying to get rid
[19:02] Speaker 4: of this motherfucker. But, I mean, for JB, I mean,
[19:07] Speaker 4: it's a great trade for him. I mean, now he
[19:09] Speaker 4: can go and, like he said, he's free now. Shit,
[19:12] Speaker 4: that's what the man said.
[19:13] Speaker 3: I said, damn, how this motherfucker say he's free now?
[19:17] Speaker 3: I felt you. You're free over there.
[19:19] Speaker 4: He said he's free now. I said, God damn it.
[19:22] Speaker 4: I got to see what the fuck he talking about now, Coach.
[19:25] Speaker 4: That motherfucker's a killer, man. But the man said he's free.
[19:29] Speaker 4: But I just felt like that was crazy as.
[19:31] Speaker 3: Hell, man.
[19:31] Speaker 4: I just didn't understand it. I just felt like it's
[19:33] Speaker 4: something that he said. I mean, it couldn't be about
[19:36] Speaker 4: the plate. I mean, the thing I don't.
[19:40] Speaker 3: Like, though, my mind is just bullshit about him.
[19:44] Speaker 4: You know, if you fuck with me, Jason Tatum, nigga,
[19:49] Speaker 4: where you was through all this shit?
[19:51] Speaker 3: When all this shit was going, you should have went
[19:53] Speaker 3: in that motherfucking front office and sat down with those motherfuckers.
[19:55] Speaker 4: Hey, let me tell you something now.
[19:57] Speaker 3: Hey, that's my goddamn guy.
[20:00] Speaker 4: Now, I don't know if I'm Batman or Robin or
[20:02] Speaker 4: he Ralph Robin and I'm Batman, but goddamn it.
[20:05] Speaker 3: Hey, keep that motherfucker here. You hear what I'm saying?
[20:09] Speaker 4: Man, all that shit, man, let me go talk to JB.
[20:12] Speaker 4: But y'all got to keep this motherfucker here. I tell
[20:14] Speaker 4: him to bring that shit down a little bit, JB.
[20:18] Speaker 4: But y'all got to tell him, keep this motherfucker here.
[20:20] Speaker 2: Well, that's the part I'm actually surprised hasn't come up
[20:23] Speaker 2: a little bit more, is that if Jason Tatum... The
[20:27] Speaker 2: Celtics had clearly decided that Jason Tatum is the one,
[20:30] Speaker 2: even if he's coming off the Achilles' chair.
[20:32] Speaker 3: But.
[20:34] Speaker 2: he clearly did not jump in front of the bus
[20:37] Speaker 2: on this one, right? There's no evidence to indicate, even
[20:39] Speaker 2: if you don't think that Tatum got him out of there,
[20:42] Speaker 2: Tatum did not keep him there. And I think that
[20:44] Speaker 2: there's a story in that part.
[20:45] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[20:46] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all I'm saying right there, that part right there. Goddamn, Tatum,
[20:50] Speaker 4: I mean, Tatum, I mean, like you said, the damn
[20:54] Speaker 4: Achilles and all this coming back off of that, we.
[20:57] Speaker 3: Don't know what kind of, what player we getting. You
[21:00] Speaker 3: know what I mean?
[21:01] Speaker 4: So, I mean, that's a tough motherfucking injury, but I mean,
[21:04] Speaker 4: I mean, I just didn't understand this motherfucker. I just,
[21:07] Speaker 4: I thought he should have did more to keep the
[21:09] Speaker 4: kid around there with him. I mean, I felt like,
[21:12] Speaker 4: I mean, either however you want to put it, Batman
[21:14] Speaker 4: or Robin, whoever, whoever's who, but shit, Jaden Brown, he
[21:19] Speaker 4: shouldn't have. And then, and then, I mean, I just,
[21:22] Speaker 4: the way they did it and shit, all this shit,
[21:24] Speaker 4: you know what I mean? But I mean, like the kid, like,
[21:27] Speaker 4: I mean, he said he's free, so I'm happy for
[21:29] Speaker 4: the motherfucker.
[21:30] Speaker 3: He's free.
[21:32] Speaker 2: What'd you think about Giannis going to Miami?
[21:34] Speaker 4: I don't know what the fuck was going on with
[21:36] Speaker 4: all that shit right there. Giannis going to Miami. Giannis
[21:38] Speaker 4: going to go out there on the beach. Giannis going
[21:42] Speaker 4: to the motherfucker beach. Giannis going to go over that motherfucker,
[21:46] Speaker 4: what they call that Star Island motherfucker place over there.
[21:48] Speaker 3: One of the motherfuckers got that big old house over there.
[21:50] Speaker 3: Giannis been going to the beach all these niggas have quit.
[21:54] Speaker 2: I tell you this, though. People think they're going to
[21:55] Speaker 2: the beach. No, you're going to go play for the Heat.
[21:57] Speaker 2: One of my favorite details about the Heat is that
[21:59] Speaker 2: when they built that arena, and you can tell this
[22:01] Speaker 2: is a great idea that the architect had, is that
[22:04] Speaker 2: with the practice courts, that there are windows with views
[22:08] Speaker 2: of Biscayne Bay because that arena is right there on
[22:10] Speaker 2: the wall for people who don't know.
[22:11] Speaker 3: Right there.
[22:12] Speaker 2: And Pat Riley covered the windows all the way up
[22:15] Speaker 2: because it ain't no day at the beach, baby. You
[22:17] Speaker 2: coming to this motherfucker to grind. And Giannis seemed like
[22:21] Speaker 2: the perfect personality fit. And I feel like him and
[22:23] Speaker 2: Bam together is going to be a lot of defense
[22:26] Speaker 2: to be played. But I still don't have the greatest
[22:28] Speaker 2: idea about what it is after that.
[22:30] Speaker 4: Where the guards at? They got rid of Hero? I mean,
[22:34] Speaker 4: who the point guard and shit?
[22:37] Speaker 3: Mitchell? Yeah. I mean, okay, I like Mitchell, you know.
[22:41] Speaker 3: A guy coming off the bench.
[22:44] Speaker 4: You know, I mean, a dog, you know. No offense,
[22:47] Speaker 4: I love Mitchell, but I mean, he, I mean, damn, man.
[22:50] Speaker 4: I mean, who the shooting guard?
[22:53] Speaker 3: I mean, what we got? Who we got? They ain't
[22:57] Speaker 3: got to fill these holes. This motherfucker got to fill
[23:00] Speaker 3: these goddamn holes.
[23:01] Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know what they got. Who they
[23:04] Speaker 4: got coming off the bench? I don't know what the
[23:06] Speaker 4: fuck they got. Who they got on their team anymore?
[23:10] Speaker 2: I feel bad for Hero. You know why I feel
[23:13] Speaker 2: bad for Hero? We talk about this a lot normally
[23:18] Speaker 2: with black players, where I call them they can't go back, right?
[23:21] Speaker 2: Where they done worked hard, they done everything they could
[23:24] Speaker 2: because they couldn't go back to the crib, right? They
[23:26] Speaker 2: did too much to go back to the crib. Tyler
[23:29] Speaker 2: Hero did too much to become the version of Tyler
[23:32] Speaker 2: Hero that he is. to go back to know Wisconsin, man.
[23:35] Speaker 2: He has no desire to go back to Wisconsin. He
[23:37] Speaker 2: got to go to dinner and act like he used
[23:39] Speaker 2: to act when he get around his parents. You know
[23:41] Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, he got to do all of that.
[23:44] Speaker 2: Everything that he has become, now he did not do
[23:47] Speaker 2: all this to go back. I said, when they were
[23:48] Speaker 2: talking about trading him to Utah, I was like, shit,
[23:50] Speaker 2: he'd have retired before he went back to Utah. He
[23:53] Speaker 2: ain't trying to be there. He would hate being in Utah, boy.
[23:55] Speaker 2: You would hate being in Utah.
[23:56] Speaker 3: Hell no, he ain't going to Utah.
[23:58] Speaker 2: Hell no.
[23:59] Speaker 3: Fuck no. Fuck no. Hell no.
[24:03] Speaker 4: Nobody want to go out to that national motherfucker.
[24:05] Speaker 3: Fuck Utah. Talk about them motherfuckers. Hell no, Monty. Did
[24:11] Speaker 3: you hear what he say? Utah.
[24:14] Speaker 2: Goddamn.
[24:15] Speaker 3: Why Utah come in all this shit? Fuck Utah, man.
[24:18] Speaker 3: Come on. You feel bad.
[24:22] Speaker 2: For Darren Peterson, man?
[24:25] Speaker 3: Yeah, shit. I mean, Darren, just stay in the gym, boy. Shit.
[24:31] Speaker 3: That's it. Stay in the gym.
[24:34] Speaker 2: You know what I appreciate, though, about Danny A? All
[24:37] Speaker 2: these cats trying to scare him off from drafting him,
[24:40] Speaker 2: and he's like, dude, nobody wants to come here. That's
[24:43] Speaker 2: why it's a drag.
[24:45] Speaker 3: Right, yeah. That motherfucker, Darren, ain't nothing to do out there, boy.
[24:49] Speaker 3: Just stay in the gym. You're going to be the
[24:52] Speaker 3: rookie of the year. A lot of rest. Showing the
[24:58] Speaker 3: video game.
[24:59] Speaker 4: And shit, I got you marked in.
[25:02] Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year already, my guy.
[25:06] Speaker 2: Shit.
[25:07] Speaker 3: Not bullshit.
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[29:01] Speaker 2: with Vernon Maxwell. And we had just mentioned Utah, and
[29:04] Speaker 2: I actually hadn't thought about this, but I wonder if
[29:07] Speaker 2: young people understand this, that Danny Ainge is a basketball player.
[29:10] Speaker 2: I mean, Danny Ainge played Major League Baseball. Danny Ainge
[29:12] Speaker 2: was an all-state football player in high school. But Danny
[29:14] Speaker 2: Ainge was a for real basketball player, but I hated
[29:17] Speaker 2: him so much. Like, he was the guy, like, there
[29:20] Speaker 2: was hating the Celtics, there was a bunch of white dudes,
[29:22] Speaker 2: and then it was hating Danny Ainge just because he
[29:24] Speaker 2: was Danny Ainge.
[29:26] Speaker 3: Dan Angelo's a dirty motherfucker, man. I'm trying to tell
[29:28] Speaker 3: you now.
[29:28] Speaker 4: Y'all be out here in that front office with all
[29:30] Speaker 4: this bullshit. Dan Angelo's a dog now. They better Google
[29:34] Speaker 4: that motherfucker.
[29:35] Speaker 3: He hit my man in the face with that damn basketball,
[29:38] Speaker 3: Mario Elliott. We were going to tear his ass up.
[29:40] Speaker 2: Oh, that's right.
[29:41] Speaker 3: We were going to fuck him up. We were going
[29:44] Speaker 3: to kick his ass up. We were going to fuck
[29:46] Speaker 3: him up.
[29:47] Speaker 4: But they lost the goddamn series. We were going to
[29:49] Speaker 4: get his motherfucking ass. We were going to ambush this motherfucker.
[29:53] Speaker 4: I don't think we were going to have enough players
[29:55] Speaker 4: to play in the motherfucking finals in the first couple
[29:57] Speaker 4: of games. We were going to tear his ass up Man,
[30:01] Speaker 4: we didn't like that. But yeah, but Odena is a
[30:03] Speaker 4: dirty motherfucker.
[30:05] Speaker 2: Tell us the thing about the Rockets, looking back on it.
[30:08] Speaker 2: Y'all have four dudes that I look at, like you, Ellie,
[30:12] Speaker 2: Akeem Olajuwon, and Otis Thorpe, that I'm like, I don't
[30:15] Speaker 2: think you really want problems with any of these four gentlemen.
[30:17] Speaker 3: Yes.
[30:18] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[30:19] Speaker 3: But everybody say, everybody been looking at old Big Shot Rob,
[30:22] Speaker 3: like Big Shot Rob ain't going to do nothing. Rob,
[30:24] Speaker 3: tell your asser, Rob was a motherfucking fool too.
[30:27] Speaker 2: Rob threw that towel at Daddy H face that one time.
[30:30] Speaker 4: Come on, man.
[30:31] Speaker 3: Okay.
[30:32] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Stop acting like Big Shot Rob.
[30:35] Speaker 4: Ain't no motherfucker fighting either now. Rob motherfucker shit.
[30:39] Speaker 3: And Sam I am. You know, this motherfucker, you know,
[30:41] Speaker 3: he from Baltimore.
[30:43] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[30:43] Speaker 3: You know, this motherfucker, he stay ready.
[30:46] Speaker 2: Robert Ory completely changed the course of his career for
[30:50] Speaker 2: the better by throwing that towel in Danny Ainge's face.
[30:52] Speaker 2: For people who don't know, Ory got traded to the
[30:56] Speaker 2: Suns in the Charles Barkley trade. And Danny Ainge was
[30:59] Speaker 2: the coach. Robert Ory got mad at him one day
[31:02] Speaker 2: and threw a towel in his face. And they traded
[31:04] Speaker 2: him two days later to the Lakers. And everything changed.
[31:08] Speaker 3: That was the best thing he said. That's what he said.
[31:10] Speaker 3: He was ready to do that.
[31:14] Speaker 4: He planned to do that shit. He said he He
[31:16] Speaker 4: said this motherfucker was playing with him like he was
[31:19] Speaker 4: a toy. This motherfucker said he got there. I said, Max,
[31:22] Speaker 4: I got tired of that motherfucker. I'm going to throw
[31:24] Speaker 4: that motherfucker straight in his face. And that motherfucker got
[31:28] Speaker 4: me straight up out to the lake. I said, God damn,
[31:30] Speaker 4: they gave you away too, baby boy. Yeah, that was
[31:35] Speaker 4: a hell of a move right there by Big Shot.
[31:39] Speaker 4: I tell you, man, some of these motherfucking places, you
[31:41] Speaker 4: got to get the fuck away from these motherfuckers because
[31:43] Speaker 4: they'll hold you down.
[31:46] Speaker 2: What you think about LeBron and where this is going
[31:48] Speaker 2: with him? Because this is my read. You tell me
[31:50] Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. I'm not the only person to say this.
[31:53] Speaker 2: But it's nice of the Lakers to let LeBron make
[31:55] Speaker 2: it seem like he made this decision. It does not
[31:57] Speaker 2: seem like he made this decision. It seemed like the
[31:59] Speaker 2: Lakers made this decision. And now, it's where does he
[32:01] Speaker 2: wind up going?
[32:02] Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, the Lakers made this motherfucker make this decision.
[32:07] Speaker 4: They gave Austin Reeves all that goddamn money. And so
[32:11] Speaker 4: it wasn't nothing. You know, but Brian, I guess he
[32:14] Speaker 4: was going to play for the minimum anyway.
[32:15] Speaker 3: I mean, like he said.
[32:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, but not for them.
[32:18] Speaker 3: Not for them.
[32:19] Speaker 4: You might have said not for them.
[32:23] Speaker 3: Not for them. Well, that's when they did that move
[32:25] Speaker 3: right there.
[32:25] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. That's when his ass knew he
[32:28] Speaker 4: wasn't going to be in L.A. That's when he done
[32:31] Speaker 4: changed his residency back over there in Ohio. But I
[32:35] Speaker 4: think the place where he should go is, man, And
[32:39] Speaker 4: somebody had said this. I think you dump the nuggets.
[32:48] Speaker 4: I like to dump the nuggets over there with Jokic.
[32:50] Speaker 4: You ain't got to do all that motherfucking.
[32:51] Speaker 3: Hell on the ball.
[32:52] Speaker 4: You got Jokic over there looking for you, boy.
[32:56] Speaker 2: Now, you're a Jokic guy, right?
[32:58] Speaker 3: Yes, you're fucking right I am. Yes. All day long. Yes.
[33:04] Speaker 3: Fucking killer.
[33:05] Speaker 4: Can't jump over the fucking stack of bottles. But this
[33:08] Speaker 4: motherfucker is a killer.
[33:10] Speaker 3: I love it.
[33:12] Speaker 4: Amen.
[33:12] Speaker 2: Let me tell you, Jokic and LeBron, everybody's open all
[33:15] Speaker 2: the time.
[33:16] Speaker 3: Make them better.
[33:16] Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to say. Everybody's going to be better.
[33:20] Speaker 4: That's my case in point.
[33:22] Speaker 2: Everybody's going to be better.
[33:24] Speaker 3: And both of these motherfuckers are willing to pass. I mean,
[33:27] Speaker 3: they're willing to both of them. I mean, shit. I mean,
[33:30] Speaker 3: they just want somebody to move and get the cut
[33:32] Speaker 3: and get the fuck open. You know what I mean?
[33:35] Speaker 3: And both of them.
[33:37] Speaker 4: I mean, our cues are out the roof. So, I mean,
[33:40] Speaker 4: what are we talking about? Man, you playing with both
[33:42] Speaker 4: of these motherfuckers?
[33:44] Speaker 2: Well, I see people entertain the idea of him in Minnesota,
[33:48] Speaker 2: and I am intrigued by the Ant-Man-Lamello ball backcourt. I'm
[33:51] Speaker 2: not the biggest Lamello fan, but I also think that
[33:54] Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards is by far the best player that he
[33:56] Speaker 2: would have ever played with, right? And that's a couple
[34:00] Speaker 2: of big dudes in your backcourt.
[34:02] Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
[34:03] Speaker 4: I wanted to see how that shit gonna end up
[34:05] Speaker 4: like that, them two. But I know it's going to be,
[34:08] Speaker 4: I know it's going to end up well because, you know,
[34:10] Speaker 4: Ant's such a real motherfucker. You know what I mean? And,
[34:13] Speaker 4: you know, I mean, so, and Mello, you know what
[34:17] Speaker 4: I mean? He's kind of the guy, he's a real
[34:19] Speaker 4: motherfucker too.
[34:20] Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Mello going to be Mello. Mello,
[34:22] Speaker 3: you know what I mean? He going to, I mean, I.
[34:26] Speaker 4: Think he had an exceptional year last year, man. Motherfucker,
[34:29] Speaker 4: he showed, I didn't think he was that good until.
[34:33] Speaker 3: Shit, I seen him. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. I thought
[34:36] Speaker 3: he was okay. I hadn't seen that shit when I
[34:40] Speaker 3: saw last year.
[34:41] Speaker 2: Now, you live in Charlotte, right?
[34:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, I live in Charlotte. Yeah. I saw this motherfucker.
[34:45] Speaker 3: This motherfucker. I like his, that motherfucker play.
[34:49] Speaker 4: I don't know where he get that damn jump shot from,
[34:51] Speaker 4: that one leg up in there with the kickstand shit, with.
[34:54] Speaker 3: The leg up in the air. I don't know where
[34:56] Speaker 3: he got that. He done perfected that shit. That shit big.
[34:59] Speaker 3: That shit, he shoots that shit deep. I mean, this motherfucker,
[35:02] Speaker 3: he got handles, he got vision. Man, that shit. Hey,
[35:06] Speaker 3: go ahead, Melo. Do your thing.
[35:09] Speaker 4: You got a lot of motherfuckers mad at these motherfuckers
[35:11] Speaker 4: around here in the shout-out horns front office. These motherfuckers mad, boy.
[35:16] Speaker 4: They ain't want you to be out of here, man.
[35:18] Speaker 4: But yeah, man, good luck, Melo, man. That motherfucker, he different.
[35:22] Speaker 4: I like this guy, too.
[35:23] Speaker 3: Shit.
[35:24] Speaker 2: Well, tell me this. If LeBron were to wind up
[35:27] Speaker 2: in Cleveland, how much better do you think that that
[35:29] Speaker 2: makes them? Because my feeling has always been Cleveland's issue
[35:32] Speaker 2: is Evan Mobley and Jared Allen are both really good,
[35:35] Speaker 2: but I don't feel like you can play them together
[35:37] Speaker 2: because they're both tall, but they're not big, right? Like,
[35:40] Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like LeBron answers the questions they have,
[35:43] Speaker 2: on top of the fact that if you got James Harden,
[35:46] Speaker 2: you're going to lose the last game of the year,
[35:47] Speaker 2: and he's going to play terrible.
[35:49] Speaker 4: Man, you got two big motherfuckers down there, Evan Mobley
[35:52] Speaker 4: and Jared, man.
[35:53] Speaker 3: Them motherfuckers down there. They don't even talk. I mean,
[35:56] Speaker 3: them motherfuckers are dying now.
[35:57] Speaker 4: They don't even got us being able to say something.
[36:01] Speaker 4: Them motherfuckers don't even want to open their goddamn mouth.
[36:03] Speaker 4: I mean, so, I mean, why them motherfuckers got to go?
[36:07] Speaker 4: But I just, I mean, Donovan Mitchell, man, I mean, shit.
[36:11] Speaker 3: I mean, I like him, man.
[36:14] Speaker 4: Harden, I don't, I mean, I just, I don't think
[36:19] Speaker 4: if Bron go there, they ain't gonna, they're gonna do
[36:21] Speaker 4: the same shit, probably what they did this year. You know,
[36:24] Speaker 4: dang on, hang on. I don't think, Brian need to
[36:27] Speaker 4: go somewhere where he know he gonna be in the
[36:29] Speaker 4: thick of things next year. When the mother fucking rubber
[36:33] Speaker 4: get ready to hit the road, when the Western Conference
[36:38] Speaker 4: finals are, I think, or the Eastern Conference finals, he
[36:41] Speaker 4: need to be on a team like that.
[36:44] Speaker 3: So, you know what I mean?
[36:45] Speaker 4: I mean, he said shit, it ain't about the money now,
[36:48] Speaker 4: since he ain't in LA now, so it ain't about
[36:50] Speaker 4: the money no more. So you're going to tell you,
[36:52] Speaker 4: I want to see if this motherfucker going to take
[36:53] Speaker 4: the minimum. I don't think he is. Ron ain't going
[36:55] Speaker 4: to take it right now. Got to give Ron $ 15 million.
[36:58] Speaker 4: I really should. You better get your motherfuckers. Some of
[37:02] Speaker 4: them motherfuckers better take some pay cuts. You ain't going
[37:07] Speaker 4: to give Ron $ 15 million.
[37:09] Speaker 3: Fuck that.
[37:10] Speaker 2: You ever think you would live long enough where we
[37:12] Speaker 2: would talk about $ 15 million as an insult to anybody?
[37:15] Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to tell you. I don't want
[37:17] Speaker 4: to talk about that this weekend.
[37:19] Speaker 3: This is crazy.
[37:20] Speaker 4: The goddamn, oh, Lord. I mean, I'm talking about these
[37:23] Speaker 4: boys make so much money, 50 million.
[37:26] Speaker 3: Shit. And then off the court with the sneakers and shit. Goddamn. Like, goddamn,
[37:30] Speaker 3: that's what they doing now?
[37:32] Speaker 2: Hey, do you remember that time that for a brief moment,
[37:34] Speaker 2: John Hot Rod Williams was the highest paid player in
[37:37] Speaker 2: the NBA? Yes, for people who don't know, John Hot
[37:40] Speaker 2: Rod Williams, just like Steve Harvey, he got a deal
[37:42] Speaker 2: at the right time for $ 3 million a year.
[37:44] Speaker 3: Yeah, $ 3 million.
[37:46] Speaker 2: But that was the way. These cats are making $ 3
[37:48] Speaker 2: million a year.
[37:48] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We thought that motherfucker was the richest
[37:51] Speaker 3: motherfucker in America. That motherfucker making $ 3 million a year. Goddamn.
[37:57] Speaker 3: I said, goddamn that motherfucker.
[37:58] Speaker 4: They don't pay you this motherfucker. But, boy, now, ain't
[38:01] Speaker 4: this crazy, man? This shit is– I love it, though, man.
[38:04] Speaker 4: These kids, man, I mean– I mean, shit, more power
[38:07] Speaker 4: to them, man. We paid the way for these motherfuckers.
[38:09] Speaker 4: I mean, I'm happy for them, man. Goddamn, get that bread, man.
[38:12] Speaker 4: Take care of your mom and dad.
[38:14] Speaker 3: Shit, damn, get that money. No doubt. I love it.
[38:18] Speaker 2: Well, I tell you, we haven't talked to you in
[38:19] Speaker 2: a while, so we can bring this back here. What
[38:22] Speaker 2: did you think about the Spurs and the Knicks in
[38:24] Speaker 2: the finals?
[38:25] Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
[38:26] Speaker 4: The Spurs, dumbass, man. Them motherfuckers so goddamn dumb, man.
[38:30] Speaker 4: Them motherfuckers gave away that goddamn series, man. Lost me
[38:34] Speaker 4: a goddamn bunch of money, too. But the motherfuckers, they
[38:37] Speaker 4: got them. Man, them motherfuckers gave them boys a goddamn series, man.
[38:41] Speaker 3: Them motherfuckers, every game they lost, man, they supposed to win.
[38:44] Speaker 3: What the fuck, man?
[38:45] Speaker 4: This shit is crazy, man. I've never seen no dumb
[38:47] Speaker 4: shit like that in my life, man. I mean, but man,
[38:51] Speaker 4: I mean, I really ain't going to say nothing.
[38:54] Speaker 3: Damn, man, come on.
[38:56] Speaker 4: Fox, man, you got to do better, man. I know
[38:59] Speaker 4: your daddy, man. I mean, I'm going to leave it
[39:03] Speaker 4: like that.
[39:04] Speaker 3: I know your daddy.
[39:04] Speaker 4: And I ain't going to say nothing. I'm not going
[39:09] Speaker 4: to say nothing.
[39:11] Speaker 2: But I figure you got to love Brunson, huh?
[39:13] Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Yeah.
[39:15] Speaker 4: Like my man say, my man Big Perk call him,
[39:18] Speaker 4: Big Body Brunson. Yeah, I love that motherfucker. Yeah, his
[39:22] Speaker 4: daddy taught him how to play off the two feet.
[39:25] Speaker 4: All that feet work shit.
[39:26] Speaker 3: Now that's the data. my nigga. He taught him that.
[39:31] Speaker 3: That's his daddy.
[39:33] Speaker 4: Well, I ain't going to put the nigga in the
[39:37] Speaker 4: category of big body.
[39:38] Speaker 3: But his daddy used to play like that. You know,
[39:43] Speaker 3: off of two feet like that.
[39:44] Speaker 4: Back in the day, I was wondering, why this nigga
[39:46] Speaker 4: stopping in the lane like that with two feet? And
[39:48] Speaker 4: I ain't just exploding up with one leg, off one
[39:50] Speaker 4: leg and shit. This nigga playing off two feet. And
[39:53] Speaker 4: I said, God damn it. But I mean, he was
[39:55] Speaker 4: crafty with it though. And that's the way he taught
[39:58] Speaker 4: his son.
[39:58] Speaker 3: But I mean, shit. Brunson, man. Woo.
[40:03] Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think he's the fastest guy in
[40:05] Speaker 4: the league and he don't jump the highs.
[40:08] Speaker 3: I mean, but motherfucker mentally, man, he's a motherfucker killer.
[40:14] Speaker 4: That's where I be saying, that's the time where I
[40:17] Speaker 4: be saying, This shit be, it be your mental over athletics.
[40:22] Speaker 4: You know, it be your mental stage now, motherfucker, because
[40:25] Speaker 4: that's what this motherfucker, he mentally driven strong, boy. This
[40:29] Speaker 4: motherfucker just don't want to lose. You can see that
[40:32] Speaker 4: shit in the goddamn finals.
[40:34] Speaker 3: That motherfucker wheeled away. He all the way to that shit.
[40:39] Speaker 3: That shit. Jalen, boy, you did a great job, boy.
[40:43] Speaker 4: Goddamn, boy, that motherfucker, that motherfucker. I mean, that motherfucker's
[40:46] Speaker 4: a killer, man. I just can't say enough about it, man.
[40:49] Speaker 4: I mean, I just didn't see all that shit. I
[40:52] Speaker 4: didn't see that when he was coming from Dallas. I
[40:56] Speaker 4: just didn't see it. Goddamn, I understand it now. I
[41:02] Speaker 4: understand this shit now.
[41:04] Speaker 3: Shit, it's crazy.
[41:06] Speaker 2: You mentioned Fox with the Spurs. Are they going to
[41:09] Speaker 2: have to do the uncomfortable thing and just wind up
[41:11] Speaker 2: putting him on the bench at some point because Harper's
[41:13] Speaker 2: just going to take it from him?
[41:14] Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, I don't know if I would
[41:17] Speaker 4: just try to like, I mean, pops, I'm sorry, man, shit.
[41:22] Speaker 3: I just have to get rid of it. You know,
[41:26] Speaker 3: I would get rid of it.
[41:27] Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if it's able or are
[41:29] Speaker 4: they able to because I think he make a lot
[41:31] Speaker 4: of money, man. I think he make a lot of
[41:34] Speaker 4: goddamn money. I might be mistaken. Somebody said this motherfucker
[41:39] Speaker 4: made over half a billion dollars. Since he's been in
[41:42] Speaker 4: the NBA, I'm like, God damn, he don't made all
[41:43] Speaker 4: that motherfucking money like that. So, but I think Spurs
[41:50] Speaker 4: got to cut ties with him, man, because, I mean,
[41:52] Speaker 4: what happened, man? And then after that, man, then, I mean,
[41:55] Speaker 4: just trying to go and make the shot. That was,
[41:57] Speaker 4: first of all, that was, I mean, you was a
[42:00] Speaker 4: point guard all your life. And you're supposed to be
[42:04] Speaker 4: the extension of the fucking coach. I mean, you got
[42:07] Speaker 4: to know you can't go in there and run this
[42:09] Speaker 4: motherfucking clock on that. even if he dribbled it all
[42:12] Speaker 4: around through. But that was just, it was just crazy. But,
[42:16] Speaker 4: I mean, then after that, he just was no more good.
[42:18] Speaker 3: I mean, but, I mean, I mean, for him, for
[42:22] Speaker 3: his sake, I want to get the fuck out of there, too.
[42:26] Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Because I be feeling like
[42:28] Speaker 3: I'm looking old mother. So, these motherfuckers, man.
[42:32] Speaker 4: These motherfuckers looking at, I mean, I just want to
[42:35] Speaker 4: feel comfortable over that motherfucker.
[42:36] Speaker 3: I know you got to understand.
[42:37] Speaker 4: Everybody talking about that kid, you know. All outside the
[42:42] Speaker 4: damn gym, all inside, in the front office. I mean, shit,
[42:46] Speaker 4: they got to goddamn get out, just get rid of,
[42:49] Speaker 4: get that motherfucker out of there. And it's hard for,
[42:52] Speaker 4: it's dealing hard for time now. That motherfucker is a killer.
[42:57] Speaker 4: I mean, Ron Harper, I see Ron over there smiling
[43:00] Speaker 4: like a motherfucker.
[43:01] Speaker 3: That motherfucker came up, my motherfucker boy. Kill him.
[43:05] Speaker 4: Kill him, nigga.
[43:07] Speaker 3: I know half of it. I know my guy. That's
[43:09] Speaker 3: my guy, man. I know he's always happy. Yeah, man.
[43:13] Speaker 3: Done well with his sons, too.
[43:16] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[43:16] Speaker 2: Both of them.
[43:17] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[43:18] Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. Last thing before we get out
[43:20] Speaker 2: of here. Is this about to be Victor Wynn-Bagnama's league
[43:24] Speaker 2: starting next year?
[43:26] Speaker 3: Yeah. He mad as fuck right now this summer, see?
[43:28] Speaker 4: Now, that's a motherfucker right there, man. You talking about
[43:32] Speaker 4: getting better from the next year to the next year?
[43:35] Speaker 4: You see what he did from his rookie to this
[43:37] Speaker 4: second year. Now, watch this jump this motherfucker's going to
[43:40] Speaker 4: do now. He's so angry because, you know, this motherfucker, now,
[43:44] Speaker 4: he hate to lose. Now, this motherfucker here, he really
[43:49] Speaker 4: hate to lose. Man, he going to come back. He
[43:52] Speaker 4: finna go to that damn, what is that, that damn
[43:54] Speaker 4: voodoo shit, that Buddhist, the monks and all that shit.
[43:57] Speaker 4: He finna go over there with them damn people. And
[44:00] Speaker 4: he finna go over there and he will come at
[44:01] Speaker 4: that motherfucker and he finna be so strong. And watch
[44:04] Speaker 4: how this motherfucker be, man. Because he know he got
[44:06] Speaker 4: to get stronger. He know what he got to do.
[44:09] Speaker 4: Because he done been all the way where he need
[44:11] Speaker 4: to go now. He done seen it all to the
[44:13] Speaker 4: top where you got it. This is what you need
[44:15] Speaker 4: to do.
[44:16] Speaker 3: And he understand.
[44:17] Speaker 4: Because that's a smart motherfucker. He understand what he need
[44:20] Speaker 4: to do for himself to be the best. And he
[44:24] Speaker 4: finna be the face of the motherfucking NBA. These motherfuckers
[44:27] Speaker 4: better get ready. The Frenchman. Is that why I can
[44:31] Speaker 4: call him a Frenchman?
[44:32] Speaker 2: You can do that. You can do that.
[44:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, the Frenchman is going to take over this one.
[44:37] Speaker 2: Now, do you think they need to go get him
[44:39] Speaker 2: some muscle, though?
[44:41] Speaker 3: Yeah, he got to get stronger. Just like Giannis got stronger.
[44:47] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
[44:47] Speaker 4: Giannis was skinny and shit like that. But he got
[44:50] Speaker 4: to put on something. He got to get stronger.
[44:52] Speaker 3: His shoulders got to get stronger. So.
[44:56] Speaker 2: No, but I mean somebody else to do the muscling. Like,
[44:59] Speaker 2: he shouldn't have to.
[44:59] Speaker 3: Be able to do it himself.
[45:02] Speaker 4: But still, his ass still got to get strong, though,
[45:04] Speaker 4: because he got to be able to get down to
[45:06] Speaker 4: the spot where, like, when we need a bucket.
[45:08] Speaker 3: Your ass is 7'4.
[45:10] Speaker 4: I don't want you out here, out here at the
[45:12] Speaker 4: three-point line, motherfucker, where you got a 6'4 motherfucker out here,
[45:16] Speaker 4: 6'6 motherfucker out here. That's what they used to do,
[45:20] Speaker 4: slide their motherfucking feet. Yeah, the motherfucker's going to stand
[45:23] Speaker 4: in front of you and make.
[45:23] Speaker 3: It tough for you.
[45:25] Speaker 4: That's why we got to do all this dumb shit.
[45:27] Speaker 4: Let's go back to like A, B, C, D, E, F, G.
[45:31] Speaker 4: This shit can be easy. Walk this motherfucker down to
[45:33] Speaker 4: the block, man. Turn your big ass around now. Post
[45:37] Speaker 4: this motherfucker up and don't hit this motherfucker with one
[45:39] Speaker 4: of them moves. You ain't got to do nothing. Just
[45:41] Speaker 4: dunk on this motherfucker. Now they got to, I mean,
[45:44] Speaker 4: he got to be strong, man. Well, he can't just be,
[45:47] Speaker 4: he's playing to these motherfucking little guards to what they
[45:51] Speaker 4: good at doing. I mean, I mean, this motherfucker used
[45:54] Speaker 4: to slide on his feet out there.
[45:55] Speaker 3: That's what he got. Six, six, six, five motherfuckers guarding
[45:58] Speaker 3: him out there. But I mean, who? Like, this motherfucker
[46:01] Speaker 3: is seven. What? And why the fuck he way out there?
[46:05] Speaker 4: Instead of getting out on that block and just throwing
[46:07] Speaker 4: that bitch up there to him and let him just
[46:08] Speaker 4: go ahead and drop that.
[46:09] Speaker 3: Bitch in there?
[46:11] Speaker 4: I just don't understand what's going on, man. I mean,
[46:13] Speaker 4: and that goddamn coach from San Antonio, too.
[46:16] Speaker 3: He got to go.
[46:17] Speaker 4: I love black men coaching. Goddamn, that boy done did
[46:20] Speaker 4: some dumb shit in that goddamn finals.
[46:21] Speaker 3: You hear me? Now, that is not being talked about. Now, shit.
[46:28] Speaker 4: Now, that's the real, that's what I want to say.
[46:30] Speaker 4: They ain't talking about nobody talking about him. But that nigga,
[46:34] Speaker 4: he got to be held accountable for that shit he
[46:36] Speaker 4: done too, man. Because you got to make a, you
[46:39] Speaker 4: got to change up that motherfucking lineup, man. Get that
[46:43] Speaker 4: goddamn boy Hop in there, man. You know that man,
[46:45] Speaker 4: that goddamn, that man froze up, man. That man, I
[46:49] Speaker 4: think the motherfucker went in there and tried to make
[46:51] Speaker 4: that goddamn shot and the man blocked the shit, man.
[46:54] Speaker 4: And then he was done after that, man. Put that
[46:56] Speaker 4: man in the goddamn line up. You gonna come back
[46:59] Speaker 4: and start this man back again. And this man running
[47:02] Speaker 4: shit for him. Right out the gate, running shit for him.
[47:05] Speaker 4: Think he gonna come out and just want the crowd
[47:07] Speaker 4: to get behind.
[47:08] Speaker 3: Man, that man was done, man. Show ass, man. Show
[47:10] Speaker 3: ass out of there too. I don't even know what
[47:13] Speaker 3: was his damn name. I don't even know.
[47:15] Speaker 2: Mitch Johnson. I ain't tell you this though, they would've
[47:17] Speaker 2: got Billy Donovan. They went and got Billy Donovan to
[47:19] Speaker 2: be the lead assistant, which to me, he's the lead
[47:22] Speaker 2: assistant and the prospective interim coach. That's it.
[47:25] Speaker 3: That's it. That's it.
[47:26] Speaker 4: Because that shit he did, boy, that was crazy, too. Man,
[47:30] Speaker 4: you got to make that decision, man. I mean, it's
[47:33] Speaker 4: not even a tough motherfucking decision. If all those motherfuckers
[47:37] Speaker 4: out here without goddamn doing what I'm doing, sitting on
[47:40] Speaker 4: the couch and looking at this shit and saying, well, damn,
[47:44] Speaker 4: is he going to start this boy here, this game,
[47:46] Speaker 4: or he going to start the Fox. This motherfucker came
[47:50] Speaker 4: back with Fox. I said, well, this motherfucker can't coach.
[47:53] Speaker 3: Fox was done.
[47:55] Speaker 4: He was motherfucking done, my money, after he motherfucking got
[47:57] Speaker 4: that shit blocked and fucked up that game. And then
[48:00] Speaker 4: the shit he said after the game, that shit was
[48:02] Speaker 4: fucked up. I was like, oh, man, well, you know,
[48:06] Speaker 4: we're going to come back. We're going to learn from it.
[48:12] Speaker 3: I said, what the fuck is this boy just saying?
[48:17] Speaker 4: I say, man, these boys, man. See, a motherfucker, somebody
[48:21] Speaker 4: back would have got dirt in that motherfucker. You can't
[48:25] Speaker 4: be in there taking that shit for granted like that, man.
[48:27] Speaker 4: You know how hard it is.
[48:28] Speaker 3: To get back to that motherfucker, man. You got to be.
[48:31] Speaker 3: You got to say something, man. Say something, man.
[48:36] Speaker 2: Goddamn.
[48:38] Speaker 3: I mean, come on, man.
[48:40] Speaker 4: These kids these days, man, they don't understand, man.
[48:43] Speaker 3: You might not never get back to that motherfucker. I'm
[48:47] Speaker 3: just telling you, it's going to be hard, man, to
[48:48] Speaker 3: get to that finals. NBA finals? Shit. All right. Keep
[48:53] Speaker 3: taking that shit for granted. It's going to be hard,
[48:54] Speaker 3: but I'm just saying, man, it's hard.
[48:58] Speaker 2: Hey, man. Vernon Maxwell, I see you got all the
[49:00] Speaker 2: Florida gear back. I'm glad you and the university got
[49:03] Speaker 2: everything back right.
[49:04] Speaker 3: Yeah, them motherfuckers, they did the right thing. Hey, shout
[49:07] Speaker 3: out to the Gator. Hey, baby Gator. Hey, baby Gator.
[49:10] Speaker 4: They put me back in there, but hey, like I said,
[49:12] Speaker 4: it all started with you.
[49:14] Speaker 3: Hey, you was a part of this, brother.
[49:17] Speaker 2: Hey man, I'm glad I could help. And like my brother,
[49:20] Speaker 2: favorite moment, you and Floyd, they always talk about that
[49:21] Speaker 2: time you buzzed Alec Kessler in the face and then
[49:23] Speaker 2: ran off the court like somebody was going to take
[49:26] Speaker 2: you out.
[49:27] Speaker 1: Yes.
[49:28] Speaker 4: Tell him to stop talking about that. Like Dwayne told me,
[49:31] Speaker 4: you might as well stop talking about the slap.
[49:33] Speaker 3: No, tell him to stop talking about that.
[49:37] Speaker 2: Just saying, man.
[49:38] Speaker 3: You stole off all of your rent. I did, but
[49:40] Speaker 3: sex helped, though. That's right. That's right. You got to
[49:44] Speaker 3: tell him. Tell him, bro. I'll say what's up, too. Say, man.
[49:47] Speaker 3: Tell him, bro. I'll say what's up, man.
[49:48] Speaker 2: Check him out on All the Smoke, my brother. I
[49:50] Speaker 2: appreciate you.
[49:51] Speaker 3: I appreciate you, man. Much love, Manu. You know that
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