# Chiefs' season over, College Football Playoff disaster, Diddy documentary reaction | 12.08

An episode of [The Right Time with Bomani Jones](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/982639043), 8 Dec 2025, 58 min.

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Bomani Jones starts the show by reacting to the Kansas City Chiefs losing to the Houston Texans in a topsy-turvy AFC. Later, he reacts to Notre Dame being left out of the College Football Playoff and explains why the whole system was broken from the start. Finally, he breaks down Shedeur Sanders' best performance of the season and discusses the incredible Sean Combs documentary on Netflix. 01:00 - Chiefs lose to Texans 21:12 - College Football Playoff disaster 39:00 - Shedeur Sanders Sabotage? 45:00 - Diddy documentary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:05] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original.
[0:09] Speaker 1: My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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[0:21] Speaker 1: a hater. We will get to the madness of college
[0:24] Speaker 1: football playoff, which is not like March madness, because when
[0:27] Speaker 1: we say that, it's charming. When we talk about college
[0:30] Speaker 1: football madness, because them motherfuckers is crazy. But anyway, Chiefs
[0:36] Speaker 1: played the Texans Sunday night. The Chiefs lost to the
[0:39] Speaker 1: Texans Sunday night. The Chiefs are now 20 and, excuse me,
[0:44] Speaker 1: the game was 20 to 10. The Chiefs are now
[0:46] Speaker 1: six and seven right there with the Baltimore Ravens. Put
[0:50] Speaker 1: a pin in that thought. The Chiefs are somehow in
[0:54] Speaker 1: 10th place in the conference. And the reason that they
[0:57] Speaker 1: are in 10th place in the conference, which I didn't
[0:59] Speaker 1: understand because they were there with the Ravens, who what
[1:02] Speaker 1: I'm looking at said ninth place, but I'm like, but wait,
[1:06] Speaker 1: The Chiefs beat the Ravens in week one. And no,
[1:09] Speaker 1: that's because the Ravens and the Chiefs also have the
[1:12] Speaker 1: same record as the Miami Dolphins. That's right. That's where
[1:19] Speaker 1: they down there at right now, right? They down there
[1:22] Speaker 1: with the Dolphins, who I will be perfectly honest with
[1:25] Speaker 1: you guys. I completely forgot about. Like, I didn't think
[1:31] Speaker 1: that they got contracted.
[1:33] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:34] Speaker 1: Like, I didn't think that they weren't in the league anymore.
[1:38] Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes you just don't think about somebody
[1:40] Speaker 1: for a long time. People are like, oh damn, I
[1:41] Speaker 1: forgot that person even existed.
[1:43] Speaker 2: Especially when Tyreek Hill got hurt.
[1:45] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:46] Speaker 2: Then they disappeared from the Zeitgeist.
[1:48] Speaker 1: We didn't stop talking about them. Like, once we realized
[1:51] Speaker 1: they weren't going to fire... Might be Daniel. Might be Daniel.
[1:54] Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I don't know if two
[1:56] Speaker 1: are hurt or not. Like, I mean, at any given day,
[1:58] Speaker 1: it could be different. I'm assuming that he's out there playing. And,
[2:01] Speaker 1: of course, part of why I don't know anything about
[2:04] Speaker 1: them is I haven't noticed that they won four games
[2:06] Speaker 1: in a row. You know why I haven't noticed that
[2:09] Speaker 1: they won four games in a row? Yeah. One of
[2:11] Speaker 1: them was against the Bills. The rest... was against Cheeks, Ass,
[2:18] Speaker 1: and Boo Boo. Yes, there we go. The Commandos, the Saints,
[2:23] Speaker 1: and the Jets. That is who they were out there against.
[2:26] Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the company that the Chiefs keep right now.
[2:31] Speaker 1: They're just not good. And they are not good in
[2:36] Speaker 1: a way that happens from time to time. In football,
[2:41] Speaker 1: I don't... I don't think it so much happens as
[2:43] Speaker 1: much in baseball, though I guess it happens in stretches
[2:46] Speaker 1: in baseball, and it's just not the way that basketball works.
[2:51] Speaker 1: But the Chiefs are bad, but the players aren't. You
[2:57] Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying? Like, if you were to point
[3:00] Speaker 1: at the roster or point at, like, stats and stuff
[3:02] Speaker 1: like that, generally speaking, we don't really have an answer.
[3:06] Speaker 1: So why is it that they're bad? Like, what is
[3:09] Speaker 1: your explanation for why it is that they're bad? And
[3:12] Speaker 1: the answer is, they are. Coming into this week, Ryan,
[3:15] Speaker 1: you know where the Chiefs were at DVOA?
[3:18] Speaker 2: I'm going to guess 12th.
[3:19] Speaker 1: Sixth. Sixth. But you know who's fourth? America's team to
[3:26] Speaker 1: Detroit Lions.
[3:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's football.
[3:28] Speaker 1: Right, right. DVOA normally doesn't work like that. You normally
[3:32] Speaker 1: don't really get bogeys going in there in the way
[3:35] Speaker 1: that you got this year. But that's the thing with
[3:37] Speaker 1: the Chiefs right now is that the Chiefs are... They
[3:39] Speaker 1: are bogey-ish. Patrick Mahomes had three interceptions yesterday that felt
[3:44] Speaker 1: like the worst Patrick Mahomes game that we've ever seen.
[3:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the nerds were saying if you go
[3:50] Speaker 2: by the EPA stats or whatever, it was probably his
[3:53] Speaker 2: worst game as a starter.
[3:54] Speaker 1: Look, and we saw this team. We looked at the
[3:57] Speaker 1: guys they had at receiver, like the things they had
[3:58] Speaker 1: built up. Now, of course, they are in five-dot territory. Ryan,
[4:02] Speaker 1: you haven't been doing this with me for a very
[4:03] Speaker 1: long time. They do not have an offensive line. They
[4:05] Speaker 1: have five dots. And I got to be honest with you.
[4:08] Speaker 1: Some of those dots ain't even like symmetrical dots. They
[4:11] Speaker 1: just blots.
[4:12] Speaker 2: They're replacement dots.
[4:14] Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
[4:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not even the original dots. They just wiggle
[4:17] Speaker 2: over them.
[4:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if they are X's or O's,
[4:21] Speaker 1: but if they O's, they got holes in them. Like,
[4:25] Speaker 1: they are not, I mean, and it's not, these guys
[4:28] Speaker 1: are as good as they're supposed to be. They're not
[4:31] Speaker 1: all intended to be out there together at the same time. Like,
[4:34] Speaker 1: it's supposed to just be one of y'all. They just,
[4:36] Speaker 1: I mean, they're just, they out there with the second,
[4:39] Speaker 1: third unit type of dudes. And then you see another
[4:41] Speaker 1: one get hurt in the course of the game. And look,
[4:43] Speaker 1: maybe that's the depth of the explanation, right? Like maybe
[4:46] Speaker 1: we're being a little too hard on the Chiefs in
[4:49] Speaker 1: some total when it comes to this. But Ryan made
[4:51] Speaker 1: a great point right before the show about this. Man,
[4:53] Speaker 1: this really makes you look at the Patriots run of
[4:56] Speaker 1: the early 21st century and just be like, damn, y'all
[4:59] Speaker 1: really did it because this never happened, right? Like the
[5:04] Speaker 1: 80s and 90s 49ers had a very similar situation where
[5:10] Speaker 1: this never happened. But again, that is before the cap
[5:14] Speaker 1: and then after the advent and there was going to
[5:16] Speaker 1: be some trickle down in this, right? Patriots were just
[5:20] Speaker 1: coming out there, and as you put it, Ryan, retooling
[5:23] Speaker 1: around Tom Brady. There were different kinds of teams, and
[5:27] Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I think, had a certain element of how
[5:30] Speaker 1: it is that they retooled around Mahomes, and the league
[5:32] Speaker 1: kind of caught up paradigmatically, right? It's too high safety
[5:35] Speaker 1: time all around, so you're never going to get like
[5:37] Speaker 1: the 5,000-yard Chiefs passing again, and then they figured out
[5:40] Speaker 1: the nickel and dime game. They did all this, but this...
[5:44] Speaker 1: It never looked like this with the Patriots at this point.
[5:46] Speaker 1: There was that one year where me and everybody else
[5:50] Speaker 1: did a lot of work, said they were finished in
[5:53] Speaker 1: week four or five, and then they won the Super Bowl.
[5:57] Speaker 1: That did happen.
[5:58] Speaker 2: They had bad months. They would have bad Septembers, and
[6:02] Speaker 2: we would do the what's wrong with the Patriots thing.
[6:04] Speaker 2: But they were never– six and seven going into, you know,
[6:08] Speaker 2: week 15. Right.
[6:09] Speaker 1: But the, but the other part is they would always
[6:11] Speaker 1: be doing it with a bunch of low spades.
[6:14] Speaker 3: Right.
[6:14] Speaker 1: Right. Like Tom Brady, obviously a joker. I'd say Gronk,
[6:19] Speaker 1: qualified as joker you'd have like a chandler jones throwing
[6:22] Speaker 1: in there but then when he started asking for money
[6:25] Speaker 1: they would get him out of here right patriots love
[6:27] Speaker 1: to trade a 10 for five deuces right like they
[6:30] Speaker 1: are they are all about that one um but they
[6:33] Speaker 1: were out there by and large with low spades or
[6:36] Speaker 1: even i would say that like gronk well gronk was
[6:39] Speaker 1: a bit of a spade but that one dude that
[6:42] Speaker 1: was killing people was a very good player but like
[6:47] Speaker 1: not quite a joker he's almost kind of like like
[6:49] Speaker 1: a king of another suit. Like, you could trump it maybe,
[6:53] Speaker 1: but like, you know, the whole lot was going to
[6:55] Speaker 1: have to break right in order for you to do that.
[6:58] Speaker 1: It never was this, right? They are sitting, like I said,
[7:03] Speaker 1: they sitting down there with the Dolphins, bro. Anybody think
[7:06] Speaker 1: they could show up and get a game against the
[7:08] Speaker 1: Chiefs at this point? Now, look, the Texans are one
[7:10] Speaker 1: of those teams that all year long has been better
[7:13] Speaker 1: than their record, okay?
[7:15] Speaker 2: And a terrible matchup for the Chiefs in this specific
[7:17] Speaker 2: spot with how good their defensive line is and how
[7:20] Speaker 2: bad the Chiefs' offensive line is.
[7:21] Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got dots. They've got Will Anderson and Daniil Hunter. Like,
[7:27] Speaker 1: that's what they got. And them boys was coming, dog.
[7:31] Speaker 1: They were on the way. They were there. So now what?
[7:36] Speaker 1: Let me tell you something about the AFC. This is
[7:38] Speaker 1: very interesting to look at, okay? Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson,
[7:44] Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. We would all agree, I think, that those
[7:48] Speaker 1: are three of the four best quarterbacks in the league.
[7:55] Speaker 1: Although Matthew Stafford is really messing up the math. Anyway,
[7:58] Speaker 1: those three guys will not be in the postseason. It
[8:02] Speaker 1: seems pretty clear that At this point, I guess it's
[8:05] Speaker 1: not too late for Baltimore to catch the Steelers. But Ryan,
[8:09] Speaker 1: we're talking about teams that look like cheeks. Specifically, Lamar
[8:12] Speaker 1: Jackson does not look like a good quarterback right now.
[8:15] Speaker 2: No, I mean, he has struggled with the Steelers historically. Like,
[8:19] Speaker 2: that's been kind of like the Lamar Jackson big game
[8:22] Speaker 2: narrative has always been around that. But he looked bad yesterday.
[8:26] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[8:26] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[8:26] Speaker 1: He looked bad yesterday. He's looked bad this year. They
[8:29] Speaker 1: look bad. When are you going to fire the coach?
[8:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a loser leaves town match between Tomlin
[8:35] Speaker 2: and Harbaugh yesterday.
[8:36] Speaker 1: That's exactly what it was. You got to get it done.
[8:42] Speaker 1: That's what that one was looking like, except we're not
[8:44] Speaker 1: having the same conversation about Harbaugh. And I find it. again,
[8:48] Speaker 1: a little bit interesting.
[8:49] Speaker 2: It's what happens when you play at 1 o'clock instead
[8:51] Speaker 2: of 425.
[8:52] Speaker 1: You know what? Great point. But I tell you who
[8:54] Speaker 1: else is playing in that game at 1 o'clock? Mike Tomlin.
[8:57] Speaker 1: And it would not have been treated like a 1
[8:59] Speaker 1: o'clock game if they had lost this. But yeah, AFC playoffs.
[9:02] Speaker 1: Get ready for Bo Nix, Drake May... Trevor Lawrence, who
[9:07] Speaker 1: looked great. I was looking up during that game, and
[9:11] Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that guy looks like he will
[9:14] Speaker 1: be the number one recruit in America.
[9:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy looks like the number one recruit, the
[9:18] Speaker 2: number one pick in the draft.
[9:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks like the reputed Trevor Lawrence that I
[9:22] Speaker 1: honestly had not seen. The ghost of Aaron Rodgers.
[9:26] Speaker 2: Justin Herbert with a broken hand.
[9:28] Speaker 1: Yes, Josh Allen, who, by the way, looked like Josh
[9:32] Speaker 1: Allen in the snow. but has not played well this year.
[9:35] Speaker 1: I think that we would all admit. So that's the
[9:37] Speaker 1: fourth of those four and his team is going to
[9:40] Speaker 1: be there. It looks like, but it isn't, but it
[9:43] Speaker 1: ain't in spite of him. I want to be clear,
[9:44] Speaker 1: but it's not so much because of him. And yes,
[9:46] Speaker 1: you say broken hand, Justin Herbert and CJ Stroud, who
[9:49] Speaker 1: got his egg scrambled, something vicious, right? This is a,
[9:54] Speaker 1: this is weird. I skipped over the Indianapolis Colts who,
[10:00] Speaker 1: man you want to talk about terrible luck terrible luck
[10:05] Speaker 1: so they traded two first round picks to get Sauce
[10:07] Speaker 1: Gardner a big part of that is because they had
[10:09] Speaker 1: found their quarterback or at least they believe they found
[10:11] Speaker 1: their quarterback I thought they got a little bit hasty
[10:14] Speaker 1: on leaning in on the idea that they had found
[10:15] Speaker 1: their quarterback. Anyway, Suss Gardner's out there, and we thought
[10:20] Speaker 1: he tore his Achilles last week. He did not.
[10:23] Speaker 2: And now he has a calf strain. Now you can't
[10:24] Speaker 2: play him because you have to treat him like he
[10:25] Speaker 2: tore his Achilles.
[10:27] Speaker 1: That is exactly it. You know what that is? It's
[10:29] Speaker 1: a pre-torn Achilles.
[10:30] Speaker 2: Basically, yeah.
[10:31] Speaker 1: That is what a calf strain is. But he did
[10:32] Speaker 1: not tear his Achilles, which had to be very relieving
[10:35] Speaker 1: to all parties involved since you traded two first-round picks
[10:38] Speaker 1: for him. But it's cool. You could do that because
[10:40] Speaker 1: you already had a quarterback, except the quarterback is Daniel Jones,
[10:43] Speaker 1: who had a bad left leg and then tore the
[10:46] Speaker 1: Achilles on his right leg on Sunday. And I would
[10:53] Speaker 1: presume that means that he can't play next week. I mean, yes,
[10:57] Speaker 1: I would presume that he cannot play next week. I
[11:00] Speaker 1: meant to say that he cannot play next season. My fault.
[11:04] Speaker 1: Though I got to tell you, Ryan, if Daniel Jones
[11:06] Speaker 1: came out there with a tour of the Achilles next
[11:08] Speaker 1: week and threw for 400 yards, oh my God, make
[11:11] Speaker 1: the movie now. Yeah.
[11:13] Speaker 2: Right.
[11:13] Speaker 1: And that movie would be not like an inspirational sports movie.
[11:18] Speaker 1: It would be science fiction.
[11:20] Speaker 2: Yeah. Bionic man.
[11:21] Speaker 5: Yes, yes.
[11:22] Speaker 1: That's what it would have to be. But how do
[11:25] Speaker 1: you feel if you're them, top to bottom? Like, mortgaging
[11:29] Speaker 1: your future, two fresh-out pictures of Sauce Gardner was kind
[11:32] Speaker 1: of wild.
[11:32] Speaker 2: Right. That was like the AFC is wide open. We're
[11:37] Speaker 2: going for it. And then, you know, you get this
[11:39] Speaker 2: great corner. He's hurt within three weeks. And then now
[11:42] Speaker 2: you're starting Riley Leonard because you're a backup quarterback. You
[11:45] Speaker 2: spent a top five pick on has a broken face. Yes.
[11:48] Speaker 3: Yes.
[11:49] Speaker 1: Now, also, I want to make this point about Sauce
[11:53] Speaker 1: Gardner and he is good.
[11:56] Speaker 3: Right.
[11:57] Speaker 1: I don't think any of us have any question about
[11:59] Speaker 1: the fact. That he is good. Do you know how
[12:01] Speaker 1: many interceptions he has in his career?
[12:03] Speaker 2: I'm going to say nine.
[12:05] Speaker 1: Three. Three.
[12:10] Speaker 2: That feels impossible.
[12:12] Speaker 3: Three.
[12:12] Speaker 1: He made first team all pro in two seasons where
[12:15] Speaker 1: he had two interceptions between them and one interception with none.
[12:21] Speaker 1: That's not to say he isn't good.
[12:23] Speaker 2: Of course.
[12:24] Speaker 1: But I am asking the question, if you're trading two
[12:26] Speaker 1: first round picks for a corner, Don't you kind of
[12:28] Speaker 1: want them to turn things or turn it around the
[12:30] Speaker 1: other way?
[12:31] Speaker 2: Right.
[12:31] Speaker 1: Like that was the thing about Deion Sanders. Deion Sanders,
[12:34] Speaker 1: nobody was throwing over there. And when they did, it
[12:36] Speaker 1: was coming back. Richard Sherman always made the point that
[12:40] Speaker 1: a great DB doesn't just make they shut it down.
[12:43] Speaker 1: You also sometimes got to lull them into giving you
[12:45] Speaker 1: some picks.
[12:46] Speaker 2: Right.
[12:46] Speaker 1: Like forcing turnovers is part of the job.
[12:48] Speaker 2: But anyway, you have to be so smart. You tricked
[12:50] Speaker 2: them into throwing a pick.
[12:51] Speaker 1: Correct. So they made that move and now they're stuck
[12:54] Speaker 1: like Chuck. And yes, their first round quarterback from two
[12:58] Speaker 1: seasons ago, Anthony Richardson has a broken face, right? He
[13:03] Speaker 1: has a broken orbital bone. It is really bad. Like
[13:06] Speaker 1: people have thought that it's like, oh man, they're, they're
[13:08] Speaker 1: not telling the truth about Angie Richardson. They're hiding him. No,
[13:10] Speaker 1: they're like, yo, you can't really put this cat on camera, man.
[13:13] Speaker 1: His face is all broke up. And guess what? If
[13:18] Speaker 1: you're the Colts, you have no other option but hope
[13:24] Speaker 1: that 2026 is the year that Anthony Richardson puts it
[13:30] Speaker 1: all together. That's what you got. I don't know what
[13:36] Speaker 1: else to tell you, man. Daniel Jones coming off of
[13:39] Speaker 1: a torn Achilles, I think, is cooked. You have to
[13:43] Speaker 1: treat Daniel Jones in a lot of ways like he...
[13:48] Speaker 1: treat him like you would if he was DeAndre Jones,
[13:50] Speaker 1: which is to say, um, you know, without his athleticism,
[13:54] Speaker 1: I don't really know if he's going to be able
[13:55] Speaker 1: to get it done out here. You know what I mean?
[13:57] Speaker 1: If he's just got to stand back there in the
[13:59] Speaker 1: pocket and, uh, use his noodle. I'm not sure that's
[14:02] Speaker 1: going to be enough. You got to treat him like
[14:04] Speaker 1: DeAndre Jones. Like, Hey man, you know, he really makes
[14:06] Speaker 1: it happen because he can move once he can't move.
[14:09] Speaker 1: Oh boy.
[14:09] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[14:10] Speaker 1: I think the league's going to figure them out. Yep.
[14:11] Speaker 1: You got to use all those terms when you talk
[14:14] Speaker 1: about that cat, that's what it's going to be. Um,
[14:17] Speaker 1: And Ryan, all those things happen in the week, and
[14:19] Speaker 1: we still have tonight where the Eagles have the opportunity
[14:22] Speaker 1: to be more hilarious. We haven't even gotten to them.
[14:25] Speaker 1: By the way, the Rams, I know they were playing
[14:27] Speaker 1: against the Arizona Cardinals, but the Rams looked like a machine.
[14:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, when they look good and Puka Deku is making
[14:34] Speaker 2: those catches, they look unstoppable.
[14:36] Speaker 1: They do. Also, for the NFC yesterday, or Sunday, I
[14:40] Speaker 1: thought it was interesting. I don't know how much of
[14:44] Speaker 1: Packers Bears you saw.
[14:45] Speaker 2: Decent amount.
[14:46] Speaker 1: Number one, that Jordan Love is an entertaining watch.
[14:50] Speaker 3: Yes.
[14:50] Speaker 2: He's so fun.
[14:52] Speaker 1: I'm glad he's not my quarterback. That would give me
[14:55] Speaker 1: a heart attack.
[14:56] Speaker 2: Correct.
[14:56] Speaker 1: However, I kind of wish he was my quarterback. Because
[14:59] Speaker 1: here's the thing. They're going to win a Super Bowl
[15:01] Speaker 1: with him. That was what really dawned on me in
[15:03] Speaker 1: watching that game. I don't know how many of them
[15:05] Speaker 1: they're going to win. They may only really be able
[15:07] Speaker 1: to pull it off once, but they're going to win
[15:09] Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with him because he is going to
[15:11] Speaker 1: have a month in the postseason once of absolute high-level
[15:14] Speaker 1: daredevil play where all the variance breaks on his side,
[15:18] Speaker 1: and it's fourth and three, and he's throwing it 30
[15:20] Speaker 1: yards down the field, and it never misses. All of
[15:23] Speaker 1: those things are going to happen. one time. I don't
[15:26] Speaker 1: know how you predict when that one time is going
[15:29] Speaker 1: to be, but it's going to happen one time. I
[15:32] Speaker 1: also thought that they had the bears. Caleb Williams had
[15:35] Speaker 1: a game where I think he was better than the numbers.
[15:39] Speaker 1: And that was, you know, I'm not there yet with him.
[15:42] Speaker 1: You guys know this, right? And I was watching the
[15:43] Speaker 1: game with Parkins and you know, Parkins has to believe
[15:46] Speaker 1: in Caleb Williams. Cause why wouldn't you do so? Otherwise
[15:48] Speaker 1: you just inflict your own misery upon yourself. It was
[15:50] Speaker 1: a little tough.
[15:51] Speaker 2: We'll chat about that tomorrow.
[15:53] Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. That's right. I left before it was
[15:57] Speaker 1: time to watch Nick's team lose. Markins handles things a
[16:01] Speaker 1: little bit more smoothly. So I was there watching his
[16:06] Speaker 1: team lose. But Caleb Williams, I didn't feel like he
[16:09] Speaker 1: was getting the requisite help that he needed in the
[16:12] Speaker 1: course of that game.
[16:14] Speaker 2: Going back to the Packers, it would be very hilarious
[16:16] Speaker 2: for them to win one sooner rather than later. and
[16:20] Speaker 2: then get into the playoffs and choke repeatedly, like each
[16:24] Speaker 2: quarterback they've had the last two years.
[16:26] Speaker 1: And by the last few, you mean the last 30.
[16:29] Speaker 1: I was about to say, this is exactly what happened
[16:32] Speaker 1: with Brett Favre.
[16:33] Speaker 2: And exactly what happened with Rodgers.
[16:35] Speaker 1: So what is so interesting to me is that of
[16:38] Speaker 1: their three quarterbacks, Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers are completely
[16:42] Speaker 1: different archetypes, right? Brett Favre is out here on some YOLO.
[16:46] Speaker 1: Though I contend, those four years of Brett Favre, I
[16:49] Speaker 1: want to call it like 94 to 97.
[16:51] Speaker 2: Where he won three MVPs? Yes.
[16:54] Speaker 1: They're quite possibly the best four years of football that
[16:57] Speaker 1: any quarterback has had. Because you go back and look
[16:59] Speaker 1: at it, and this is in that era of football
[17:01] Speaker 1: where Brett Favre was throwing for like 39 touchdowns and
[17:04] Speaker 1: 11 interceptions.
[17:05] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[17:06] Speaker 1: Brett Favre, right? Like, that's what he was on. And
[17:10] Speaker 1: then you get to Aaron Rodgers, whose problem is he's
[17:12] Speaker 1: just a little bit too cautious. And then they got
[17:16] Speaker 1: Jordan Love.
[17:17] Speaker 2: And they ended up having the exact same career.
[17:19] Speaker 1: They did. That is crazy. And now they got Jordan Love,
[17:22] Speaker 1: who was like, y'all got that old thing back.
[17:24] Speaker 3: Yeah. Right?
[17:25] Speaker 1: Right? It's a rollercoaster ride, but he is their guy. Also,
[17:29] Speaker 1: shout out to you, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. How embarrassing is
[17:32] Speaker 1: that that you lost to the Saints?
[17:34] Speaker 2: Yeah. They've fallen apart.
[17:36] Speaker 1: At your own house.
[17:37] Speaker 2: Yeah. They've fallen apart.
[17:40] Speaker 1: And I guess, to be fair... let us not forget
[17:42] Speaker 1: that their quarterback kind of has one arm right now.
[17:45] Speaker 1: Now granted the arm he has is the one he
[17:48] Speaker 1: throws with.
[17:49] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[17:49] Speaker 1: But like, I feel like as a quarterback, your other
[17:52] Speaker 1: arm is kind of like walking. You don't think about
[17:54] Speaker 1: how much you use your big toe, but it is
[17:57] Speaker 1: like part of what every part of it.
[17:58] Speaker 2: It's like, it's like when you're a quarterback and you
[18:00] Speaker 2: tear the ACL on the plant leg and it's worse
[18:02] Speaker 2: than your lead leg.
[18:03] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[18:03] Speaker 2: Like you, you, you don't think of it that, you know,
[18:06] Speaker 2: that other leg is more important, but it turns out.
[18:08] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[18:08] Speaker 1: But this means that in all likelihood, the Carolina Panthers
[18:11] Speaker 1: are going to be in the playoffs. You want to
[18:13] Speaker 1: play that quarterback game in the NFC that has played
[18:16] Speaker 1: in the AFC? Like if this were the NBA, they
[18:19] Speaker 1: would be terrified of what the ratings are going to be.
[18:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd be putting a lot of games exclusively on
[18:23] Speaker 2: the NFL network.
[18:24] Speaker 1: But I will say, though, that's really funny. The NFC
[18:29] Speaker 1: quarterbacks are all interesting. There's Stafford, who's the MVP. After
[18:34] Speaker 1: he threw those two picks last week, I was like, oh,
[18:36] Speaker 1: time for that Matthew Stafford regression.
[18:38] Speaker 2: Not this year.
[18:38] Speaker 1: Not this year. Matthew Stafford is set up if he
[18:41] Speaker 1: wants to, where they can win that Super Bowl. He
[18:43] Speaker 1: can ride out like John Elway.
[18:46] Speaker 2: First ballot Hall of Famer.
[18:47] Speaker 1: And trick these people into putting him into the Hall
[18:49] Speaker 1: of Fame.
[18:50] Speaker 2: Hey, man, you win an MVP in two Super Bowls,
[18:52] Speaker 2: you're in.
[18:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, and then if you go, yeah, you're right. Like
[18:55] Speaker 1: I said, Carson Palmer is like if I'd only stuck
[18:57] Speaker 1: around a little bit longer, right? Could have been me.
[19:00] Speaker 1: Jordan Love, who's up and down. Jalen Hurts.
[19:05] Speaker 2: We'll see you tonight.
[19:06] Speaker 1: I would love, by the way, I would love to
[19:08] Speaker 1: get Chris Ibsault here. Did you see when he was
[19:10] Speaker 1: on with Kevin Clark and just went with, it is
[19:12] Speaker 1: not the coach's fault at all in Philadelphia. It is
[19:15] Speaker 1: entirely on the quarterback.
[19:17] Speaker 2: He, he is very good. He really likes getting on
[19:20] Speaker 2: one of those islands.
[19:22] Speaker 1: He's willing.
[19:23] Speaker 2: Cause like everyone, every other person we talked about this
[19:26] Speaker 2: a while ago, I think it was last week about
[19:27] Speaker 2: how every other film person is like, it's the scheme.
[19:31] Speaker 2: It's the scheme.
[19:31] Speaker 1: It's the scheme.
[19:31] Speaker 3: Yes.
[19:32] Speaker 2: But now he's like, no, it's the quarterback.
[19:35] Speaker 1: He's willing. He's willing. And I have to tell you,
[19:38] Speaker 1: and you guys who ever rooted for the University of
[19:40] Speaker 1: Texas will understand, you'll never be able to ever would
[19:43] Speaker 1: have convinced the 2001 version of me that i would
[19:46] Speaker 1: like the chris sims this much in 2025 right i'm
[19:49] Speaker 1: not saying he's right about all these things but i
[19:52] Speaker 1: could write a book on like my voyage in sports
[19:55] Speaker 1: fandom and logic everything i.
[19:57] Speaker 2: Learned about football i learned through experiencing chris sims yeah.
[20:00] Speaker 1: Well realizing like hey man you've got a really passionate
[20:04] Speaker 1: opinion about this person you'd ever met before. You might
[20:09] Speaker 1: want to dial that back a little.
[20:10] Speaker 2: Are you guys the same age?
[20:13] Speaker 1: Effectively.
[20:14] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[20:14] Speaker 1: Effectively. Chris Sims, I'm probably like a couple of months
[20:18] Speaker 1: older than him.
[20:19] Speaker 2: Got it. Okay.
[20:20] Speaker 1: He's a high school class in 99.
[20:22] Speaker 2: Got it.
[20:23] Speaker 1: Okay. Ask me how closely I followed recruiting back in
[20:27] Speaker 1: those days.
[20:27] Speaker 2: Exactly.
[20:28] Speaker 1: Where I could do that. But anyway, what are Baker Mayfield?
[20:33] Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, if you believe that shit. Brock Purdy, Mac Jones,
[20:39] Speaker 1: does it really matter which? Caleb Williams. We might get
[20:44] Speaker 1: some more of that Jerry Goff. The little homie Bryce Young.
[20:48] Speaker 1: And then, outside of Dak Prescott, quite possibly the best
[20:52] Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFC this season, Dakota Prescott. And somehow
[20:57] Speaker 1: still eligible for the playoffs, J.J.
[20:59] Speaker 4: McCarthy.
[21:01] Speaker 1: This is unbelievable. Weird quarterbackness, ladies and gentlemen. Weird. I
[21:12] Speaker 1: don't know if it's too early to say that I
[21:14] Speaker 1: was right. I don't even know how many of you
[21:16] Speaker 1: fully agree with me that I was right, because I
[21:17] Speaker 1: don't think you agree with me, because you keep trying
[21:19] Speaker 1: to take a problem and make it better by doing
[21:23] Speaker 1: more of the problem. But I stood alone for decades, Ryan.
[21:31] Speaker 1: Decades explaining to people that the college football playoff was
[21:37] Speaker 1: never going to be a good idea. My argument for
[21:43] Speaker 1: why it was never going to be a good idea
[21:45] Speaker 1: largely hinged on the fact that there was never going
[21:50] Speaker 1: to be a good way to come up with a
[21:52] Speaker 1: national champion in college football because the point of this
[21:56] Speaker 1: was never to name a a national championship, okay? The
[22:03] Speaker 1: reason that college sports generally, but really college football more
[22:07] Speaker 1: than anything else exists is one reason and one reason only. Vibes.
[22:15] Speaker 1: That's it. It's fun. It's a good time. Makes people
[22:19] Speaker 1: feel good. But most importantly, this game began when everything
[22:28] Speaker 1: was regionals.
[22:30] Speaker 3: Right?
[22:31] Speaker 1: Everything was really about what was going on in your
[22:35] Speaker 1: own backyard. And I have always contended that this game
[22:40] Speaker 1: is at its best and at its most enjoyable when
[22:43] Speaker 1: it is its most regional. Now, is it logical to
[22:48] Speaker 1: have a system where you determine a champion by having
[22:53] Speaker 1: a bunch of people around the corner around the country vote?
[23:01] Speaker 1: It's not illogical, actually. And the reason I say it's
[23:05] Speaker 1: not illogical is that it is no less logical than
[23:10] Speaker 1: having a room full of people sit around and vote
[23:14] Speaker 1: about who gets into your little tournament that you put
[23:18] Speaker 1: together at the end of the year. It's a different
[23:21] Speaker 1: way to do it, but it doesn't make a lot
[23:24] Speaker 1: more sense. What it is, however, is perhaps just a
[23:28] Speaker 1: little easier for people to wrap their minds around because
[23:31] Speaker 1: the logic of a tournament and head to head, it
[23:36] Speaker 1: does not tell you who a quote unquote true champion is,
[23:39] Speaker 1: nor is it especially scientific, but it is easy to understand, right? Hey,
[23:45] Speaker 1: we beat them. Now we go play another round. Now
[23:47] Speaker 1: we beat them. We go to another round.
[23:49] Speaker 6: Okay.
[23:49] Speaker 1: Like everybody gets that, but this isn't like when you
[23:53] Speaker 1: have one of these tournaments in professional sports. And a
[23:56] Speaker 1: big part of the reason why it's different when it
[23:58] Speaker 1: runs a professional sports is The leagues are small enough
[24:02] Speaker 1: and partition into divisions and conferences in such a way
[24:07] Speaker 1: that all the teams play a reasonably similar set of games.
[24:14] Speaker 1: And since they play a reasonably similar set of games,
[24:17] Speaker 1: their records are close enough to being comparable that I
[24:22] Speaker 1: can say you are 11 and two, you are 10
[24:24] Speaker 1: and one. You should be ahead of that other person
[24:26] Speaker 1: because you are 11 and two in that team is
[24:29] Speaker 1: 10 and one. Right. And then if you wind up
[24:32] Speaker 1: in a situation where they have the same record and
[24:34] Speaker 1: they played head to head, you can determine the winner
[24:36] Speaker 1: and you can use that as a tiebreaker because tiebreakers
[24:39] Speaker 1: are always going to be to a degree, some bit
[24:40] Speaker 1: arbitrary anyway. But you can just go ahead and do that.
[24:43] Speaker 1: But the key to all of that was we were
[24:46] Speaker 1: working with manageable sets of information that make it very
[24:54] Speaker 1: easy to make decisions. There was always a bit of
[24:58] Speaker 1: an understanding in college sports that. that you were not
[25:01] Speaker 1: going to be working, at least in a national context,
[25:05] Speaker 1: with manageable sets of information. You weren't, okay? So as
[25:11] Speaker 1: a result, we had things like voters and polls because
[25:17] Speaker 1: that was what you needed to make sense of what
[25:20] Speaker 1: was going on. You trusted a group of people that
[25:22] Speaker 1: you perceived to have a certain measure of expertise and
[25:25] Speaker 1: then let them vote and come up with stuff. Now again,
[25:28] Speaker 1: They wasn't always going to be out here getting it
[25:30] Speaker 1: right and everything else. But all it took was somebody
[25:36] Speaker 1: didn't like a little something that somebody did, right? And
[25:41] Speaker 1: once somebody didn't like that little something that somebody did,
[25:45] Speaker 1: now we argue about it. And now it's, why don't
[25:48] Speaker 1: we have a playoff? Everybody else has a playoff. Why
[25:50] Speaker 1: don't we have a playoff? They got a playoff in
[25:53] Speaker 1: Division I AA and it works. Why don't we have
[25:56] Speaker 1: a playoff? And I would always ask the question, man,
[25:59] Speaker 1: how the fuck you know what they do in 1AA
[26:01] Speaker 1: work or not? You ain't watching. You understand what I'm saying? Like,
[26:08] Speaker 1: everybody got so caught up on this idea that it
[26:10] Speaker 1: was necessary that this was the only legitimate way to
[26:14] Speaker 1: come up with something, right? And now you got it.
[26:20] Speaker 1: You got the playoff that you always asked for. And
[26:24] Speaker 1: I know that it apparently TV ratings have been good, right?
[26:28] Speaker 1: People watch all the games, so forth and so on.
[26:31] Speaker 1: I hear you there. I'm just asking you. What has
[26:37] Speaker 1: this made better? I want you to think about something
[26:42] Speaker 1: right fast, because I don't know how many people I've
[26:44] Speaker 1: seen talk about this. I've talked about this in this context.
[26:48] Speaker 1: And Ryan, you read these things a little bit more
[26:50] Speaker 1: than I do, right? So you feel free to let
[26:52] Speaker 1: me know if I'm wrong about this. And I think
[26:54] Speaker 1: I told you, man, just by you a little bit,
[26:56] Speaker 1: but even still, I contend that in a different era,
[27:01] Speaker 1: even though that game was number one versus number two,
[27:05] Speaker 1: I contend Indiana, who, by the way, looks like Indiana
[27:13] Speaker 1: when they are playing against Ohio State. They beat Ohio
[27:18] Speaker 1: State for the Big Ten championship. As recently as, I'll
[27:24] Speaker 1: call it 15 years ago, maybe even 10 years ago,
[27:27] Speaker 1: but let's call it 15. I think that may have
[27:30] Speaker 1: gone down as one of the biggest upsets in the
[27:31] Speaker 1: history of college football.
[27:33] Speaker 2: It's up there.
[27:34] Speaker 1: Like, I don't care about what the betting line was.
[27:37] Speaker 1: I'm talking about, in effect, how many of you really
[27:40] Speaker 1: thought that Indiana had an actual factual chance against Ohio State?
[27:46] Speaker 3: Right.
[27:47] Speaker 1: In the end, like I remember what a big deal
[27:48] Speaker 1: it was when Northwestern went to the Rose Bowl in 1995. OK,
[27:52] Speaker 1: it was giant. All right.
[27:54] Speaker 2: Similar. Like the thing when I think of big upsets
[27:56] Speaker 2: in college football, the first thing that jumps to mind
[27:58] Speaker 2: is is Boise State and Oklahoma in that Fiesta Bowl.
[28:01] Speaker 1: Yes.
[28:01] Speaker 2: Like that, like those types of like. calibers of programs
[28:05] Speaker 2: going against each other and like looking the same on
[28:07] Speaker 2: the field and ultimately getting the win in the end.
[28:09] Speaker 1: Yeah. But Indiana to me is the same caliber of
[28:11] Speaker 1: college football program as Boise state.
[28:13] Speaker 3: Correct.
[28:13] Speaker 2: That's my point.
[28:14] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[28:14] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[28:14] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[28:15] Speaker 1: Now things are different now. And they'll talk about, Ooh,
[28:17] Speaker 1: it's NIL. This is a bunch of dudes from James Madison.
[28:19] Speaker 1: Like I don't think that NIL is the secret to
[28:21] Speaker 1: what Indiana is doing.
[28:22] Speaker 2: This is not what Texas tech is doing.
[28:24] Speaker 1: Right. Right. Like I think it may have something to
[28:26] Speaker 1: do perhaps with just the money, the big 10 brings
[28:28] Speaker 1: in and it allows Indiana to then be more competitive
[28:30] Speaker 1: relative to their peers or whatever, but, But no, Cignetti brought,
[28:33] Speaker 1: he brought, you remember when D.I. was like, I'm bringing
[28:37] Speaker 1: my luggage, and it's Louie? Look, Cignetti was like, I'm
[28:41] Speaker 1: bringing my luggage, and boy, is it ever sturdy. Look
[28:44] Speaker 1: at the stitching on this. It's put together so well, right?
[28:48] Speaker 1: But it's like, but they did this. And I don't
[28:51] Speaker 1: think that we are celebrating the fact that Indiana is
[28:53] Speaker 1: the number one team in the country going into the
[28:55] Speaker 1: postseason in the way that we would.
[28:57] Speaker 2: And there's no real argument for anyone else.
[29:00] Speaker 3: No.
[29:00] Speaker 4: No.
[29:01] Speaker 1: There's none. And look, they've only really played against two
[29:04] Speaker 1: good teams this year. But those two good teams are
[29:06] Speaker 1: the number three and the number five team in the country.
[29:09] Speaker 1: And they went into one of their houses and beat
[29:11] Speaker 1: them definitively. And not only did they beat Ohio State
[29:15] Speaker 1: in this championship game at a neutral site, it was
[29:17] Speaker 1: 13 to 10. Like, Ryan, you tell me if I'm crazy,
[29:19] Speaker 1: but normally you would expect in a circumstance like this
[29:21] Speaker 1: and you may use Boise State as the example. Trick plays.
[29:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, trick plays, high variance, special teams, touchdowns. But no,
[29:30] Speaker 2: they got into a needy, gritty Big Ten war with
[29:33] Speaker 2: Ohio State and beat them.
[29:34] Speaker 1: And beat them, okay? That doesn't feel like it matters
[29:39] Speaker 1: that much anymore. Like, I remember when they changed the Indiana,
[29:42] Speaker 1: speaking of Indiana, they changed the Indiana high school basketball tournament.
[29:45] Speaker 1: And I was talking to Pat Forty about this when
[29:47] Speaker 1: it happened. This is when I was first getting to
[29:48] Speaker 1: know him. And what they did was they changed it,
[29:51] Speaker 1: the Indiana State high school tournament, if you've seen Hoosiers,
[29:58] Speaker 1: it used to just be one state champion. For all
[30:01] Speaker 1: the high schools in Indiana. And then they broke it
[30:03] Speaker 1: down like it is in most states. And they have,
[30:06] Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how they call it, but 5A, 4A, 3A, 2A,
[30:09] Speaker 1: you know, up and down the line or whatever. And
[30:11] Speaker 1: 40 told me at the time, because I was like, oh,
[30:13] Speaker 1: more kids get to be champions. He's like, no, man,
[30:15] Speaker 1: they're messing with perfection. And what happens is in the
[30:18] Speaker 1: absence of all these different champions by gradiation, everybody was
[30:22] Speaker 1: playing for something different. Everybody had different stakes. And so
[30:26] Speaker 1: for the little schools, if you win one game, it
[30:28] Speaker 1: was like winning state. If you did this, that and
[30:30] Speaker 1: everything else, but allowed everybody else to come up with
[30:32] Speaker 1: what was important to them. And I think in large part,
[30:35] Speaker 1: that's what college football had always been. is we've got
[30:38] Speaker 1: these different levels. Going to the Gator Bowl means something
[30:40] Speaker 1: for different schools. Kansas went to the Orange Bowl one time.
[30:43] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That was a big enough thing. Like,
[30:45] Speaker 1: the ability to get to all these different places, this
[30:48] Speaker 1: was what it was. This was cool. But we just
[30:51] Speaker 1: needed a national champion when the only winner from a
[30:54] Speaker 1: true national champion are nationalizing the consumption of college sports.
[30:58] Speaker 1: The only winners are television networks. ESPN in particular. Hold
[31:03] Speaker 1: that thought, okay? So, yeah. I think the Indiana example
[31:08] Speaker 1: to me points out how we kind of messed up
[31:11] Speaker 1: something just because it didn't make sense, even though it
[31:13] Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. We were better off in
[31:17] Speaker 1: that regard. So now we've got this playoff and it's
[31:20] Speaker 1: going to be a 12 team playoff and it gets
[31:23] Speaker 1: you to a committee that.
[31:26] Speaker 2: All right.
[31:27] Speaker 1: Talked about this many times as I've talked about the
[31:30] Speaker 1: playoff and everything else. And I'll say it again because
[31:33] Speaker 1: I think it's important for everybody to understand. All right.
[31:37] Speaker 1: The college football playoff is a package of television shows.
[31:43] Speaker 1: That's what it is. It is a package of television
[31:45] Speaker 1: shows presented to you by ESPN and its partners in
[31:51] Speaker 1: college football. That's what it is. They have weeks and
[31:55] Speaker 1: weeks and weeks of college football ranking shows because those
[32:00] Speaker 1: are television shows and they take those television shows and
[32:02] Speaker 1: then they go sell advertising against those television shows. And
[32:07] Speaker 1: every week, they put out their ratings. And then the
[32:11] Speaker 1: next day, you could turn on ESPN and you could
[32:13] Speaker 1: watch their television shows, as I do. And there will
[32:17] Speaker 1: be people arguing about the rankings. So it is a
[32:21] Speaker 1: television show that then begets more television. Because we will
[32:27] Speaker 1: now talk about this on all of the other television shows.
[32:31] Speaker 1: But the purpose of those rankings, and this is very
[32:34] Speaker 1: important as it goes along, is not really to keep
[32:39] Speaker 1: you posted on the progress of the teams or to
[32:43] Speaker 1: give you any real insight or understanding into what, who
[32:48] Speaker 1: is actually going to be in the college football playoff
[32:51] Speaker 1: at the end. No, sir. The purpose of those shows
[32:55] Speaker 1: are to be shows and to be television shows. The
[32:59] Speaker 1: logic that they used at any point during the process
[33:03] Speaker 1: has no tie to the What will happen in the end?
[33:09] Speaker 1: It has none whatsoever. Now, I want to say this
[33:14] Speaker 1: to that committee. You have a borderline impossible job that
[33:17] Speaker 1: you are being expected to do. It is very, very difficult.
[33:21] Speaker 1: We know this and we understand this. OK. However. And look,
[33:27] Speaker 1: you could have gone either way on this decision. You
[33:32] Speaker 1: can't explain to me how it is that Notre Dame
[33:34] Speaker 1: and Miami, it was Notre Dame ahead of Miami. And
[33:37] Speaker 1: then neither one of them played a game. And then
[33:41] Speaker 1: it was Miami over Notre Dame.
[33:43] Speaker 2: Unless you're doing a WWE style work.
[33:47] Speaker 3: Right.
[33:47] Speaker 1: I don't, by the way, they weren't doing this for
[33:50] Speaker 1: cynical reasons because the cynical move is always to put
[33:54] Speaker 1: Notre Dame in.
[33:55] Speaker 3: Right.
[33:56] Speaker 1: So I don't, The argument that people have made is
[33:59] Speaker 1: that if there was somebody between Notre Dame and Miami,
[34:02] Speaker 1: like it was BYU.
[34:03] Speaker 2: Right.
[34:04] Speaker 1: And so if BYU was in between them, then okay.
[34:08] Speaker 1: But then once you put them right next to each other,
[34:10] Speaker 1: then that meant you had to put, that doesn't make
[34:12] Speaker 1: any sense. Like if you took geometry in high school,
[34:15] Speaker 1: you couldn't write that proof.
[34:17] Speaker 2: Right.
[34:18] Speaker 1: Like you can't like it doesn't work. There's no logic
[34:21] Speaker 1: under which this makes sense. Now, the Miami fan argument
[34:25] Speaker 1: was we beat them head to head. You beat them
[34:28] Speaker 1: by three points at home in the first game of
[34:32] Speaker 1: the season. That's a wash, right? Now, if you just
[34:36] Speaker 1: think that this is wrestling or boxing and you want
[34:39] Speaker 1: a king of the hill contest, this is where we
[34:41] Speaker 1: get into head-to-head. It's easy to understand. But if you
[34:44] Speaker 1: think about it past the top level, it gets to be.
[34:47] Speaker 2: A little ugh, right?
[34:50] Speaker 1: I don't know. Like, put it like this. We always
[34:52] Speaker 1: say that a three-point spread in favor of the home
[34:53] Speaker 1: team is a pick-em.
[34:55] Speaker 3: Right.
[34:58] Speaker 1: You see what I mean?
[34:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[34:59] Speaker 1: Like, this was a pick-em.
[35:01] Speaker 3: But.
[35:02] Speaker 1: I'm not going to, I'd say I ain't going to
[35:03] Speaker 1: spend my time arguing about who's number 12. It just
[35:05] Speaker 1: doesn't like really make any sense. But where they mess
[35:08] Speaker 1: themselves up to me and why this job for the
[35:10] Speaker 1: committee is so difficult. And I'm not the first person
[35:12] Speaker 1: to bring this up, obviously. It's the conferences are just
[35:16] Speaker 1: so big that there is no ability to compare records
[35:20] Speaker 1: from team to team, right? Everybody plays all these different people.
[35:24] Speaker 1: They just, they just, this is how you wind up
[35:26] Speaker 1: with Duke being the ACC champion because Duke wins a
[35:29] Speaker 1: tiebreaker where, They're a five loss team. They're tied with Miami.
[35:35] Speaker 1: They're tied with Georgia Tech. But somehow, you know, whatever
[35:39] Speaker 1: the tiebreaker came down to, it went there because remember
[35:42] Speaker 1: when people were like, well, what's the point of having divisions?
[35:44] Speaker 1: The point of having divisions is so you have a
[35:47] Speaker 1: common set of information that then allows you to decide
[35:50] Speaker 1: these two teams in your championship. You won this bracket.
[35:53] Speaker 1: You won. OK, cool. We then go from there. Otherwise,
[35:56] Speaker 1: this is what you end up with or you end
[35:59] Speaker 1: up with Ohio State and Indiana, neither of whom really
[36:01] Speaker 1: had to play anybody all year long, although Ohio State
[36:04] Speaker 1: had the Texas game and the Oregon at least they
[36:06] Speaker 1: scheduled it. But it's all haywire. None of it makes
[36:09] Speaker 1: any sense logically in trying to put it together. And
[36:15] Speaker 1: what are we going to get out of this as
[36:16] Speaker 1: a result? If it's anything like last year, you're going
[36:19] Speaker 1: to get first round playoff games that are terrible to
[36:22] Speaker 1: watch because the home teams are going to kick the
[36:24] Speaker 1: teeth in of the teams that they play against. Oregon
[36:28] Speaker 1: at home against James Madison. They are going to stomp
[36:33] Speaker 1: them boys out. Ole Miss, and by the way, what
[36:37] Speaker 1: a press conference, Pete Golding. Ole Miss and Tulane. Ryan,
[36:43] Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident. Ole Miss is probably going to
[36:45] Speaker 1: stomp them out.
[36:46] Speaker 2: Yes.
[36:48] Speaker 1: What is it, Miami? Texas A & M. I think
[36:51] Speaker 1: Texas A & M is going to blow their doors off.
[36:53] Speaker 2: Yes.
[36:54] Speaker 1: Like, I just don't think they're, hoo, hoo, hoo, boy.
[36:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're ready for Marcel Reed. No.
[36:59] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and.
[37:00] Speaker 1: You want to talk about a coaching advantage.
[37:02] Speaker 2: Yes.
[37:03] Speaker 1: Elko versus Mario Cristobal.
[37:05] Speaker 2: Especially in game once the rosters are set.
[37:08] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[37:08] Speaker 1: That's kind of like Bobby Knight looking at Dale Brown
[37:10] Speaker 1: and being like, we're good. We'll be fine. Don't you
[37:14] Speaker 1: worry about that. And then what's the other one? Oh, Oklahoma, Alabama.
[37:19] Speaker 2: Well, that's good for that's good for business.
[37:21] Speaker 1: Would you like me to read the text from my
[37:23] Speaker 1: Alabama fan?
[37:24] Speaker 2: Sure would.
[37:26] Speaker 1: Friend. And just so you know, he's black. Win or
[37:31] Speaker 1: go home game for the boar. Can't lose the minimum
[37:35] Speaker 1: three times in 15 months.
[37:37] Speaker 2: That's it.
[37:37] Speaker 1: And that game's in Norman. I guess that one has
[37:42] Speaker 1: the chance to be a good one.
[37:43] Speaker 2: For sure.
[37:43] Speaker 1: That's it. But otherwise, these aren't going to be competitive games, man. Like,
[37:47] Speaker 1: that's what you got out of this. That's what you
[37:50] Speaker 1: got out of this. You had more fun when it
[37:53] Speaker 1: was a wide range of bowls. You had more fun
[37:56] Speaker 1: when they figured out one versus two setups, and then
[37:58] Speaker 1: everybody figured something else out to play for. But like this, oh,
[38:02] Speaker 1: everybody's got the chance to play. Ole Miss has a
[38:04] Speaker 1: chance to play for a title. No, they don't. They
[38:07] Speaker 1: ain't playing for no fucking title. James Madison ain't playing
[38:09] Speaker 1: for no title. Tulane ain't playing for no title. Miami
[38:14] Speaker 1: ain't playing for no title. Let me tell you who's
[38:16] Speaker 1: playing for a title. By the way, Ryan, is Indiana
[38:21] Speaker 1: playing for a title?
[38:22] Speaker 2: I guess so.
[38:24] Speaker 1: I think so.
[38:24] Speaker 2: I guess so.
[38:25] Speaker 1: I think so. But Georgia.
[38:27] Speaker 2: Playing for a title.
[38:28] Speaker 1: They're playing for a title.
[38:29] Speaker 2: Ohio State. Playing for a title.
[38:31] Speaker 1: They're playing for a title.
[38:32] Speaker 3: Oregon.
[38:32] Speaker 1: Texas Tech, maybe. Yeah, Oregon. Although, you know what? If
[38:35] Speaker 1: Oregon's playing for a title, then Indiana's playing for it.
[38:37] Speaker 2: That's fair.
[38:37] Speaker 1: But either way it goes. That's what we got. Yeah.
[38:40] Speaker 1: We got four teams playing for a title. And if
[38:42] Speaker 1: you liked having a playoff, you know what we just
[38:44] Speaker 1: had very recently? A four-team playoff. that might have satisfied
[38:50] Speaker 1: exactly what you were looking for. Instead, you got all
[38:54] Speaker 1: of this.
[38:55] Speaker 2: All right, Bo, a couple other stories from the weekend.
[39:05] Speaker 2: Shador Sanders had probably his best game as a pro
[39:09] Speaker 2: for over 350 yards, four total touchdowns. However, not in
[39:13] Speaker 2: for the two-point conversion to tie. And people are mad. Bo,
[39:18] Speaker 2: what was your reaction to this?
[39:19] Speaker 1: Buddy, I feel like everything in that game, whoever be
[39:23] Speaker 1: writing that Shador script, they got a little something for
[39:27] Speaker 1: everybody now, don't they?
[39:29] Speaker 3: Yes.
[39:30] Speaker 1: I feel like I watched a decent bit of that.
[39:32] Speaker 1: He made, because he's going to hold on to the ball,
[39:38] Speaker 1: he's going to make some big plays, right?
[39:42] Speaker 2: Right.
[39:42] Speaker 1: Right.
[39:42] Speaker 2: If you don't pressure him immediately, he's going to get
[39:45] Speaker 2: like that. Throw the the 60 yard TD to Judy. Yes.
[39:48] Speaker 2: Very good throw. Yes. And yeah, he's going and he's
[39:51] Speaker 2: going to. And yeah, if you do not pressure him,
[39:53] Speaker 2: he's going to make big throws.
[39:54] Speaker 1: He's going to make some things happen. But he also
[39:57] Speaker 1: like he had the 60 yard. Now, the 60 yard
[40:01] Speaker 1: was the Judy was the 50 yard pass to Jenkins.
[40:03] Speaker 1: But that was a screen.
[40:03] Speaker 2: Yeah. Right.
[40:04] Speaker 1: Like it doesn't. He was much better in the second
[40:07] Speaker 1: half in terms of like getting the ball down the
[40:09] Speaker 1: field and all of that stuff. Um, he's going to
[40:11] Speaker 1: be their starter for the rest of the year. They're
[40:13] Speaker 1: going to take a quarterback in the first round. Like
[40:16] Speaker 1: all of those things happen, but he did just enough
[40:18] Speaker 1: to serve whatever agenda anybody has in that one. Like
[40:22] Speaker 1: the picky through was awful. Um, it was very clear
[40:26] Speaker 1: that the Titans decided he's going to have to be
[40:28] Speaker 1: the one to beat us. He, I mean, I think
[40:31] Speaker 1: Ken Ward's out there for Dolo, like go play a
[40:33] Speaker 1: game and name that Titan. Like, go read who he's
[40:38] Speaker 1: throwing the ball over there to. You ain't heard of
[40:40] Speaker 1: none of them. I've heard of everybody that the Browns got.
[40:42] Speaker 1: I ain't ever heard of none of these guys that
[40:44] Speaker 1: the Titans are throwing to. But Shador outplayed him, right? Like,
[40:48] Speaker 1: he played against number one pick. He outplayed him. They
[40:51] Speaker 1: were in it at the end. And then Stefanski, like,
[40:54] Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, the way the two-point conversions work
[40:56] Speaker 1: for teams, they have a two-point play they practice all week.
[40:59] Speaker 1: And when it comes down to it, that's the one
[41:00] Speaker 1: that they're going to run. And, buddy, Stefanski, that couldn't
[41:03] Speaker 1: have been the two-point play that you practiced. Like, they
[41:06] Speaker 1: marched that all the way down the field, and you
[41:08] Speaker 1: took them off the field again. And then y'all ran
[41:12] Speaker 1: the play wrong.
[41:13] Speaker 2: That is– I'm not saying Stefanski was sabotaging Shadurah Sanders. However,
[41:21] Speaker 2: if you want– If that was your thought, I don't–
[41:26] Speaker 2: I don't have the camera.
[41:28] Speaker 1: But the problem is, if he had put him out
[41:31] Speaker 1: there and they didn't like the play that he called
[41:33] Speaker 1: for Shador Sanders, that would also be evidence of sabotage. Like,
[41:38] Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. This game is like every game
[41:40] Speaker 1: with him seems to be a little bit of whatever
[41:43] Speaker 1: you need or want it to be, right? The part
[41:47] Speaker 1: that Stefanski is going to have the hardest part explaining
[41:50] Speaker 1: to anybody at this point is, how dylan gabriel got
[41:55] Speaker 1: to play this many games and look the people who
[41:58] Speaker 1: are like dismissive of the idea that dylan gabriel never
[42:01] Speaker 1: should have started over shador sanders no i think that's
[42:03] Speaker 1: ridiculous shador sanders was second team all-american last year first
[42:06] Speaker 1: team all-american was dylan gabriel like i don't know why
[42:08] Speaker 1: we act like these are two guys of wildly different
[42:12] Speaker 1: calibers like dylan gabriel won everywhere that he went in
[42:15] Speaker 1: college and look he went a lot of places a
[42:16] Speaker 1: lot of places yeah right but at the same time,
[42:20] Speaker 1: like what was buddy's name? Uh, during the elections, I've
[42:23] Speaker 1: seen enough. Like, I don't know. I've not seen enough
[42:25] Speaker 1: to say Shador is a starter or anything else, but
[42:28] Speaker 1: I've seen enough to say that he's better than Dylan Gabriel.
[42:30] Speaker 3: Yes.
[42:31] Speaker 1: And I don't know how Stefanski answers for that.
[42:33] Speaker 2: Yeah. We went from the Philly special to the Shador scandal.
[42:36] Speaker 1: Oh God. What are, what is this? This, but you
[42:40] Speaker 1: know what? At least it's at a place where, yeah,
[42:42] Speaker 1: we could do this every week, but we only have
[42:43] Speaker 1: to do it in this place.
[42:45] Speaker 2: Right. Exactly. Um, all right. So, uh, Magic and the
[42:49] Speaker 2: Knicks played yesterday. A little bit of a kerfuffle between O.G.
[42:56] Speaker 2: Onobi and Desmond Bain. You were in attendance for this.
[42:59] Speaker 2: You said you had a funny story.
[43:00] Speaker 1: Okay, so I was right there. A friend of mine,
[43:04] Speaker 1: my man Corey, shout out to him, had tickets to
[43:07] Speaker 1: the game, invited me to come. I came to the game, right?
[43:11] Speaker 1: Our seats were literally directly behind the Orlando Magic bench, right?
[43:19] Speaker 1: Here's the problem with that. My seats were directly behind.
[43:23] Speaker 1: A lot of tall people. Like, a lot of really
[43:27] Speaker 1: tall people. Like, you'd be wanting to be like, hey, yo. Like,
[43:30] Speaker 1: I had one so often. This one dude, man. He's like,
[43:32] Speaker 1: down in front. Just kept standing up the whole game.
[43:35] Speaker 1: But it was Jonathan Isaac.
[43:36] Speaker 2: I was about to say, is he still on the Magic?
[43:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Like, I can't tell him to sit down.
[43:42] Speaker 1: But anyway, it was right there in front of me.
[43:45] Speaker 1: And I don't know what Desmond Bain was thinking. It
[43:48] Speaker 1: was such a preposterous thing. He cocked. He cocked back.
[43:53] Speaker 1: There was a whole fast break. Like, it wasn't like
[43:55] Speaker 1: he was about to fall out of bounds. And OG
[43:58] Speaker 1: got up just kind of like, I don't understand what just.
[44:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't even angry. He seemed confused.
[44:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, like, it would have been different if he had heard, like,
[44:08] Speaker 1: Desmond Bain hit the ground after because he had jumped
[44:11] Speaker 1: up in the air or something.
[44:12] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[44:12] Speaker 1: No, he was just like, yo, what are you doing?
[44:14] Speaker 1: And Desmond Bain, it was wild to watch it wash
[44:18] Speaker 1: over the magic bench who didn't all necessarily see it
[44:21] Speaker 1: when it happened. Then as they watch it on the replay,
[44:24] Speaker 1: it'd be like, yeah, that was kind of messed up. Yeah,
[44:28] Speaker 1: he shouldn't have done that. One cat was on the bench.
[44:30] Speaker 1: He was like, it's legal, though. It's legal, though. Jokic
[44:33] Speaker 1: do it. He's still throwing. It's hard.
[44:35] Speaker 2: Well, kind of, you know, the... the amount of intensity
[44:40] Speaker 2: is kind of the problem. It's the difference between a
[44:42] Speaker 2: pat and a slap, you know?
[44:43] Speaker 1: There's nothing quite like when you're riding for your mans
[44:46] Speaker 1: and then you find out your mans is a hundred
[44:48] Speaker 1: percent wrong. And now you've got to figure out.
[44:51] Speaker 2: What you're going to do.
[44:53] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[44:53] Speaker 1: I just, it was, it was a really strange decision
[44:57] Speaker 1: by Desmond Bay. That's the, that's the best that I
[44:59] Speaker 1: got for you. I also was right there when Franz
[45:01] Speaker 1: got hurt and I'm lucky I didn't see that cause
[45:03] Speaker 1: that sounded like it was bad. Yeah. All right.
[45:06] Speaker 2: And finally, uh, The Diddy documentary on Netflix came out
[45:10] Speaker 2: this past week. Executive produced by 50 Cent. You have
[45:15] Speaker 2: mentioned it a couple times last week. Finally watched it.
[45:18] Speaker 2: I finally watched it. What was your biggest takeaway from
[45:21] Speaker 2: the Diddy documentary?
[45:21] Speaker 1: First of all, it's excellent.
[45:23] Speaker 2: It's really good.
[45:25] Speaker 1: It's a legitimately excellent piece of work. If you have
[45:27] Speaker 1: not seen it, you should see it. We're trying to
[45:29] Speaker 1: get an interview with the director. I don't know if
[45:31] Speaker 1: that's going to work out, but.
[45:31] Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. We're doing something ditty this week,
[45:34] Speaker 2: so everyone should watch it. Yes, yes.
[45:36] Speaker 1: It is excellent. Joel from Missouri City, we're talking to you.
[45:40] Speaker 1: Watch it, because you might be a guest. What is
[45:46] Speaker 1: so interesting in watching that is how abhorrent he has
[45:50] Speaker 1: always been. And we just didn't know it, but it's
[45:54] Speaker 1: not like you look at the old clips of him
[45:55] Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, he wasn't like anything like he
[45:57] Speaker 1: was later. No, he was the exact same person the
[46:00] Speaker 1: whole way. Just wow. Terrible. Lots of questions about different
[46:08] Speaker 1: things and different people involved. Some of those questions are
[46:11] Speaker 1: only questions that I ask when nobody else is around.
[46:14] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? But I will just tell
[46:19] Speaker 1: you guys this part. And this is what I thought
[46:22] Speaker 1: was the most diabolical thing. When Puff was all up
[46:27] Speaker 1: in the videos, dancing, I didn't know he was charging
[46:33] Speaker 1: people for it. Like, when he was all up in there,
[46:38] Speaker 1: he was stealing they shine and making them give him
[46:42] Speaker 1: money for it.
[46:45] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[46:45] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[46:46] Speaker 2: Just a, like, a clear from the get-go, I am
[46:51] Speaker 2: going to... places I'm stepping on every person I can
[46:54] Speaker 2: get to along the way.
[46:56] Speaker 6: Yes.
[46:56] Speaker 1: I can't imagine. And I don't have any other real
[46:59] Speaker 1: example of this, right? Because like, take a guy like
[47:01] Speaker 1: Master P for example, where to me, Master P was
[47:03] Speaker 1: not a rapper, but when we heard about Master P,
[47:06] Speaker 1: he was a rapper. You know what I mean? Like
[47:08] Speaker 1: he always led the business with his own rapping and
[47:11] Speaker 1: then like built a label around it, but he always
[47:14] Speaker 1: presented his rapper. Um, and it was a better rapper
[47:17] Speaker 1: than Puffy for whatever it's worth. I cannot, imagine being
[47:24] Speaker 1: puffy and being like, I'm going to start a record
[47:26] Speaker 1: company and then I'm going to start rapping because that's
[47:29] Speaker 1: where the shine is at. Because he's terrible. Ryan, you
[47:34] Speaker 1: said you had to learn the hard way.
[47:36] Speaker 2: I just always assumed that like, okay, at least he
[47:39] Speaker 2: was kind of good. He had songs on the radio.
[47:42] Speaker 5: No.
[47:43] Speaker 1: No. Awful rapper. Awful rapper. But you got to watch it.
[47:45] Speaker 1: I'm trying not to tell you too much about it,
[47:47] Speaker 1: but the Biggie Tupac episode, it'll make you mad. Whichever
[47:52] Speaker 1: side of the Biggie Tupac you were on, it'll make
[47:55] Speaker 1: you mad. By the way, fun thing about Biggie Tupac
[47:57] Speaker 1: is the years have gone on. Nobody ever acts like
[48:00] Speaker 1: they were on just one side of that. When you were.
[48:03] Speaker 1: I was there. I was here for this period of life.
[48:07] Speaker 1: You were, right? And whichever side you were on, the
[48:11] Speaker 1: bad guy is Diddy. Diddy is the bad guy behind everything.
[48:16] Speaker 1: Y'all need to be glad. Diddy need to be glad
[48:18] Speaker 1: that Shine is down there being a conservative politician in
[48:21] Speaker 1: his ancestral homeland. Because I would have loved to heard
[48:26] Speaker 1: the interviews with him. Like, it's so bad, they didn't
[48:29] Speaker 1: even have to talk about blowing up Kid Cudi's car.
[48:33] Speaker 1: Remember that? That happened. At least they said it happened.
[48:36] Speaker 1: I don't know. But anyway, no, you need to go
[48:38] Speaker 1: check that out, man. It's a serious piece of work.
[48:40] Speaker 1: I don't watch it twice, and I might watch it again.
[48:48] Speaker 2: All right, Bo, voicemail lines open. A lot of good ones.
[48:51] Speaker 2: Here's our first.
[48:53] Speaker 3: Hey, what's good, Bo? This is Jay from Kentucky. Man,
[48:57] Speaker 3: real quick, I was just thinking about how, you know,
[48:59] Speaker 3: it's great seeing teams like Indiana and Vanderbilt, you know,
[49:04] Speaker 3: finally having, you know, solid football programs after, you know,
[49:09] Speaker 3: what seems like forever. And it got me thinking, man,
[49:12] Speaker 3: I'd be pissed if I was a school like Kentucky or, UNC,
[49:17] Speaker 3: especially after this year. so I guess my question is
[49:21] Speaker 3: what do you think which school do you think is
[49:23] Speaker 3: the most pissed that they football program is cheeks right
[49:28] Speaker 3: now especially with NIL and everything love the show man
[49:32] Speaker 3: and keep doing what you're doing.
[49:36] Speaker 1: I mean look there's a I mean, Ryan, it probably
[49:40] Speaker 1: has to be you guys, right?
[49:41] Speaker 2: LSU. Well, well, this was six weeks ago before.
[49:44] Speaker 1: We got to do that.
[49:46] Speaker 2: People are much happier now.
[49:48] Speaker 1: So I think though, I need to like, I don't
[49:51] Speaker 1: know in, in the, in line with what my man
[49:53] Speaker 1: was talking about. Like I feel like there's two levels
[49:54] Speaker 1: of teams, right? Like there's the LSU type teams. They're
[49:56] Speaker 1: just not good right now. And then there are the
[50:00] Speaker 1: teams that are like systemically bad or systemic underachievers. And
[50:04] Speaker 1: I think those are the ones that get most upset
[50:06] Speaker 1: by seeing the Indiana and Vanderbilt. And I'm not sure
[50:11] Speaker 1: anybody is more upset about being mediocre at football right
[50:14] Speaker 1: now for the reasons that we just described than North Carolina.
[50:17] Speaker 2: Oh, interesting. I had a different top three.
[50:20] Speaker 1: Who were you thinking?
[50:21] Speaker 2: Number three, Florida State.
[50:23] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
[50:24] Speaker 2: Number two, USC.
[50:26] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[50:27] Speaker 2: And number one, Nebraska.
[50:29] Speaker 1: Okay. Nebraska's interesting because I don't know what their reasonable
[50:33] Speaker 1: expectations are. You know what I mean? Like, it'll never
[50:37] Speaker 1: be what it was.
[50:39] Speaker 2: I think their expectation is maybe not what it was,
[50:44] Speaker 2: but they watch, they're watching Texas tech BYU in the
[50:47] Speaker 2: big 12.
[50:47] Speaker 1: Well, my thing is they're like, why can't we be
[50:50] Speaker 1: as good as Wisconsin?
[50:51] Speaker 2: Right.
[50:52] Speaker 1: But as of right now, Wisconsin also stinks. Right. But
[50:54] Speaker 1: with North Carolina. So I think that those schools you describe,
[50:59] Speaker 1: I guess, generally speaking.
[51:01] Speaker 2: Yeah. I all did tier one types.
[51:03] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[51:03] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[51:03] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[51:03] Speaker 1: But I guess what I'm saying is this, I think
[51:04] Speaker 1: they are all very upset about being mediocre.
[51:07] Speaker 3: Right.
[51:08] Speaker 1: But not because they look at Vanderbilt and are like, yo,
[51:13] Speaker 1: what about us?
[51:14] Speaker 2: Right.
[51:14] Speaker 1: I think North Carolina, they look at Vanderbilt.
[51:18] Speaker 3: Right.
[51:19] Speaker 1: They look at Indiana, especially a basketball school. Right. They
[51:23] Speaker 1: look at them and they're like, OK, now we have
[51:25] Speaker 1: no excuse. Florida State looks at that, and they're just
[51:28] Speaker 1: even more offended. But North Carolina is like, so what's
[51:30] Speaker 1: wrong with us, huh? At least Florida State, they got
[51:33] Speaker 1: a proof of concept. They have reason to believe that
[51:36] Speaker 1: it can be something. North Carolina's like, oh, so we
[51:38] Speaker 1: went and hired the greatest football coach in the history
[51:40] Speaker 1: of Earth.
[51:42] Speaker 2: And we still stink.
[51:43] Speaker 1: And we still 80 out here embarrassing us.
[51:47] Speaker 2: All right, here's our next one.
[51:49] Speaker 4: Hey, Bomani, this is Ron in Tennessee. I'm a long-time listener, long-lived,
[51:54] Speaker 4: the Morning Jones. Hey, man, I got a question for you.
[51:58] Speaker 4: I'm a diehard Lakers fan, by the way, so take
[52:01] Speaker 4: that as an aside. But why do we keep saying
[52:05] Speaker 4: that Ty Lue is such a great coach? It's never
[52:08] Speaker 4: his fault. The last five years.
[52:11] Speaker 6: The Clippers, with all the talent that's gone back and
[52:14] Speaker 6: forth in all the different categories, manufacturing of these dream
[52:19] Speaker 6: rosters and everything else, I think they have won 50
[52:21] Speaker 6: wins in the last five years.
[52:24] Speaker 4: Maybe this is a loss.
[52:24] Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
[52:26] Speaker 6: Maybe to the Western Conference Finals in 2021.
[52:30] Speaker 2: They've not won shit.
[52:32] Speaker 6: Ty Lue is always a great coach, especially given the
[52:35] Speaker 6: fact that how he just unceremoniously told Chris Paul, as
[52:41] Speaker 6: you put it, to call us Tyrone. And they're 5-16
[52:44] Speaker 6: this year. Why does he always get a pass? Why
[52:48] Speaker 6: do we always say he's such a great coach and
[52:49] Speaker 6: he ain't did shit?
[52:51] Speaker 1: Go Lakers.
[52:52] Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Balani.
[52:55] Speaker 1: One of my favorite things about Lakers fans in the last,
[52:59] Speaker 1: we'll call it 15 years, right? Remember that year when
[53:04] Speaker 1: they had Dwight Howard and they had to scrape to
[53:06] Speaker 1: make it to the playoffs? I used to send out
[53:08] Speaker 1: a hashtag called, this is who you are now. because
[53:12] Speaker 1: they used to get on teams who were just happy
[53:14] Speaker 1: to go to the playoffs, and then they was on
[53:16] Speaker 1: Twitter all happy about going to the playoffs. And I
[53:18] Speaker 1: was like, this is who you are now. Lakers fans
[53:21] Speaker 1: have become different people than they used to be because
[53:25] Speaker 1: circumstances have changed. Circumstances change men. Men don't change circumstances.
[53:30] Speaker 1: I forget what book I read that in, but it's
[53:33] Speaker 1: a great book.
[53:34] Speaker 2: That's a great line. Right, right.
[53:36] Speaker 1: Anyway, so the Lakers have been changed, and They will
[53:40] Speaker 1: never believe the Clippers are their rival. But they are
[53:44] Speaker 1: much more concerned with explaining why the Clippers are not
[53:47] Speaker 1: their rival.
[53:48] Speaker 2: Than they used to be.
[53:48] Speaker 1: Than they ever were before, right? And so this is
[53:51] Speaker 1: one of my favorite subsets is Lakers fans talking down
[53:56] Speaker 1: on the Clippers. And I guess I would say the
[54:00] Speaker 1: Clippers have definitely been a better team the last 10 years.
[54:02] Speaker 1: Except the Lakers do have that championship.
[54:03] Speaker 2: They do.
[54:04] Speaker 1: Right? They do have that. But to add, it is
[54:08] Speaker 1: a fair question for you to ask. I do think
[54:10] Speaker 1: that Lou is a good coach. I don't know how
[54:14] Speaker 1: much of this is his fault, but don't you worry, buddy.
[54:17] Speaker 1: He'll be getting some blame. I'm shocked they haven't fired
[54:21] Speaker 1: him yet. Five of 16 gets you fired.
[54:25] Speaker 2: I think they have other things going on.
[54:27] Speaker 1: They do.
[54:28] Speaker 2: I think one thing that helps Ty Lou is he's
[54:31] Speaker 2: never been the biggest culprit. You could always blame... kawaii
[54:36] Speaker 2: you can always blame so like when whenever you're not
[54:39] Speaker 2: the worst issue you sometimes you manage to skate.
[54:43] Speaker 1: By yeah i think that is probably the best way
[54:47] Speaker 1: for us to put this but i do think it
[54:49] Speaker 1: is fair to say that there is a measure of
[54:53] Speaker 1: there there's some skating going on there's some skating.
[54:57] Speaker 6: All right here's our last one what's up omani uh
[55:00] Speaker 6: just heard the podcast yeah.
[55:03] Speaker 5: And somebody was talking about the first time they took
[55:04] Speaker 5: a walk with their cousin. I remember the first time
[55:07] Speaker 5: I took a walk with my cousins, because it was
[55:10] Speaker 5: a group of us, we was in Yosemite National Park.
[55:13] Speaker 5: And I didn't know what we was going for either.
[55:15] Speaker 5: I thought we was just walking because we was at
[55:17] Speaker 5: a campsite. And we walking and we walking. And then they,
[55:21] Speaker 5: you know, then they pull out like.
[55:23] Speaker 3: Oh, okay, this is what we're doing?
[55:24] Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't know we was doing this. And on
[55:27] Speaker 5: the way, we got lost on the way back to
[55:30] Speaker 5: the campsite. And good thing we got lost because if
[55:36] Speaker 5: we made it back exactly where we were supposed to,
[55:39] Speaker 5: we would have ran into a bear. And we came
[55:43] Speaker 5: back about 90 seconds later, and my family is running
[55:48] Speaker 5: around screaming for their life. And we're like, what happened?
[55:51] Speaker 5: What happened? Oh, y'all didn't see that bear? Nope, sure
[55:56] Speaker 5: didn't because we got lost on the walk with my cousin,
[56:01] Speaker 5: Cordae from the Bay.
[56:07] Speaker 1: Right. First of all, that is an amazing story. I
[56:13] Speaker 1: don't know what y'all would have took another walk if
[56:16] Speaker 1: y'all would have got some left. Right.
[56:18] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[56:19] Speaker 1: If y'all had encountered the bear.
[56:20] Speaker 5: But.
[56:22] Speaker 1: I'll feel bad about asking this question, not even in
[56:25] Speaker 1: front of Ryan. He said he, Corday from the Bay,
[56:29] Speaker 1: said they was at Yosemite. And I'm like, brother, was
[56:32] Speaker 1: you adopted?
[56:34] Speaker 2: I saw that look on your face.
[56:36] Speaker 1: It was on your face too. You just get to
[56:40] Speaker 1: listen to these for the first time in private. I
[56:42] Speaker 1: was like, huh, you guys are okay. Okay. You know,
[56:46] Speaker 1: West coast, y'all look different. I don't even know. Okay.
[56:49] Speaker 1: I got you. I got you.
[56:51] Speaker 2: Groups can mix.
[56:52] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[56:52] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[56:52] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[56:53] Speaker 1: This is, there's a, that's a, that's a serious, serious story.
[56:56] Speaker 1: I just want to, I want to know what it's
[56:59] Speaker 1: like when y'all got back to the bay and explain
[57:01] Speaker 1: to the other black people that y'all ran up on
[57:03] Speaker 1: a bear and After y'all had took a walk in Yosemite,
[57:06] Speaker 1: I told y'all not to go out there. Hey, man,
[57:09] Speaker 1: I told y'all not to go out there, man. You know, like, oh,
[57:13] Speaker 1: my God. That was that.
[57:15] Speaker 3: Wow.
[57:16] Speaker 1: That was absolutely amazing. Thank you, Cordae from the Bay.
[57:20] Speaker 1: You you you really made my day better with that story.
[57:25] Speaker 2: Wow.
[57:28] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here
[57:29] Speaker 1: on the right time. We do this three times a week,
[57:32] Speaker 1: or excuse me, four times a week. Ryan Brumley handed
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[57:40] Speaker 1: You ever ran into a bear while you was taking
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