# Why Jaylen Brown ACTUALLY got traded, LeBron James next move, Balogun returns for US | 07.06

An episode of [The Right Time with Bomani Jones](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/982639043), 6 Jul 2026, 53 min.

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Bomani Jones breaks down the Jaylen Brown trade, why the Boston Celtics decided to move on, and what the deal says about the NBA’s new era of team-building, player value, and trade season. On this episode of The Right Time, Bomani explains why Jaylen Brown remains a highly productive scorer while also unpacking the bigger debate around advanced stats, roster construction, and the never-ending “athletes vs. math elites” conversation. Bomani also looks at what happens next for LeBron James, why his next move may be about more than basketball, and which teams make the most sense as the NBA keeps orbiting around his future. Plus, Bomani gets into geopolitics at the World Cup, and a hilarious reaction to Trump supporters getting stuck inside the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture during a July 4 storm. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Wave.
[0:09] Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
[0:13] Speaker 2: My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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[0:19] Speaker 2: rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only
[0:22] Speaker 2: give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are
[0:25] Speaker 2: a hater. We're going to talk about what happens next
[0:29] Speaker 2: for LeBron James, but you know, Got to be honest
[0:32] Speaker 2: with you guys, man. I think all of us are
[0:34] Speaker 2: like kind of coming to grips with what the new
[0:36] Speaker 2: world order is about the NBA. And that's what happened
[0:39] Speaker 2: to me. Like I had intentionally taken me a vacation
[0:43] Speaker 2: so that I could come back like now, because in
[0:46] Speaker 2: my mind now is like all free agency would have
[0:49] Speaker 2: got back cracking. You understand what I'm saying? And then
[0:51] Speaker 2: once that happened, boom, we'd have the stuff to talk about.
[0:54] Speaker 2: And I just missed the times that there wasn't nothing
[0:55] Speaker 2: to talk about. But Ryan, no, it's not free agency
[0:58] Speaker 2: season anymore. It's about trade season.
[1:01] Speaker 3: Right. It's like trades, the draft, and like this weird
[1:04] Speaker 3: in-between where the league year ends and starts and people
[1:07] Speaker 3: trying to make all these acquisitions then.
[1:10] Speaker 2: Yeah, like I did not expect it to be all
[1:12] Speaker 2: this action in that time. I never would have left
[1:15] Speaker 2: you under these circumstances if I had realized that that
[1:19] Speaker 2: was what it was going to be. I did not.
[1:20] Speaker 2: But what I really didn't think was that the biggest
[1:23] Speaker 2: topic of conversation coming out of it was going to
[1:25] Speaker 2: be Jalen fucking Brown. Like LeBron James is a free
[1:28] Speaker 2: agent as of this moment.
[1:29] Speaker 4: We got.
[1:29] Speaker 2: other things that we could talk about a little bit
[1:31] Speaker 2: lots of big trades top five player wound up being
[1:34] Speaker 2: traded and I guess Jalen Brown is kind of sort
[1:36] Speaker 2: of caught up in that also but he got the
[1:39] Speaker 2: streets on fire Ryan from what I could tell from
[1:41] Speaker 2: popping in on the internet while I was gone the
[1:44] Speaker 2: the the people were in a frenzy over a dude
[1:47] Speaker 2: that his team apparently could not wait to trade.
[1:50] Speaker 3: Right I mean could not wait to get rid of
[1:52] Speaker 3: and I mean it's not only that he got traded
[1:55] Speaker 3: it's that he is uh discovered that he can livestream
[2:00] Speaker 3: on his own, for better or for worse.
[2:02] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. He done got twitchy.
[2:04] Speaker 3: Yes.
[2:04] Speaker 4: Right?
[2:04] Speaker 2: Like, he just... This is not a good idea for
[2:08] Speaker 2: most of you guys. It's not a good idea for him.
[2:10] Speaker 2: We'll get into the why it's not a good idea
[2:12] Speaker 2: for him part in a second. But I do want
[2:14] Speaker 2: to start, before we get to the other stuff, because
[2:15] Speaker 2: I don't want to forget this. I do not understand
[2:17] Speaker 2: you Boston Celtics. And look, I understand. I'm not making
[2:20] Speaker 2: any point right now that nobody else has made in
[2:23] Speaker 2: the last 10 days or whatever it is. But I
[2:25] Speaker 2: don't know who the hell, Hugo or the other one was,
[2:29] Speaker 2: that they said that they wouldn't trade in order to get... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:32] Speaker 2: You're not going to trade those dudes to get Giannis?
[2:36] Speaker 2: And then all you get back off this cat is
[2:38] Speaker 2: what's left of Paul George? Like, logically, I don't understand
[2:44] Speaker 2: how you got that far down the line on the
[2:47] Speaker 2: Giannis trade. And don't just go ahead and bring it home. Because,
[2:50] Speaker 2: I mean, look, I would look at Brad Stevens as
[2:54] Speaker 2: a Danny Ains disciple, and therefore you're not going to
[2:56] Speaker 2: settle for a trade unless you get exactly what you
[2:58] Speaker 2: want out of it. But all you wanted, really, for
[3:01] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown was to get Paul George and, like, a
[3:04] Speaker 2: smattering of picks. I do not, I do not understand this.
[3:09] Speaker 2: I do understand the idea though, that once you decided
[3:12] Speaker 2: you're going to put Jalen Brown in all these packages,
[3:14] Speaker 2: then he needs to go ahead and trade them, which
[3:15] Speaker 2: is why you just go ahead and do it for Giannis.
[3:17] Speaker 2: If that's the way you're going to go about it.
[3:19] Speaker 2: But anyway, they did not. Now let's get to the
[3:23] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown of it all, because I have been fascinating
[3:25] Speaker 2: by what I've seen of the surrounding conversation when it
[3:29] Speaker 2: comes to him. Um, And Jalen Brown is a very
[3:35] Speaker 2: interesting type of player, which is a player that I
[3:40] Speaker 2: think that generally speaking, all of us would say was
[3:44] Speaker 2: a good player. And most of us would say is
[3:48] Speaker 2: a very good player. And some people would say is
[3:53] Speaker 2: an excellent player who has a distinct shortage of advanced numbers.
[4:00] Speaker 2: that indicate that those things are true.
[4:05] Speaker 3: Okay?
[4:06] Speaker 2: Now, I think the thing about the analytics discussion that
[4:10] Speaker 2: often gets lost is that, generally speaking, the analytics match
[4:14] Speaker 2: up to what you think.
[4:16] Speaker 1: Right.
[4:16] Speaker 2: Like you go look at who the players are that
[4:19] Speaker 2: have the best advanced numbers for seasons and for careers.
[4:23] Speaker 2: And it's the guys that you would expect to have
[4:25] Speaker 2: those numbers.
[4:26] Speaker 3: Right.
[4:27] Speaker 2: It's the Michael Jordans. It's Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. It's the Will Chamberlain's.
[4:30] Speaker 2: It's the LeBron James. It's all those guys like there
[4:33] Speaker 2: aren't too many people that pop up on those numbers
[4:35] Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, that's a shock. No, like generally speaking,
[4:38] Speaker 2: they tell the story of what you might expect. But
[4:42] Speaker 2: every now and then, you do wind up with a
[4:44] Speaker 2: player where the advanced numbers do not match up with
[4:49] Speaker 2: generally what we believe about how good those players are.
[4:54] Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant fits this description to a degree, though he's
[4:57] Speaker 2: not an extreme example. Isaiah Thomas is an extreme example.
[5:03] Speaker 2: The advanced numbers do not indicate that Isaiah Thomas is
[5:05] Speaker 2: the Isaiah Thomas that We saw if you want a
[5:09] Speaker 2: guy playing right now that I think also fits under
[5:12] Speaker 2: this heading, that is Anthony Edwards. The advanced numbers are
[5:15] Speaker 2: not saying that he is a bad player, but they
[5:17] Speaker 2: don't speak to him as though he is a superstar,
[5:20] Speaker 2: which I think most of us believe that he is.
[5:25] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown is another guy who fits that description. Now,
[5:31] Speaker 2: here's what Jalen Brown can do for you. Hey, what
[5:35] Speaker 2: can Brown do for you? Anyway, here's what Jalen Brown
[5:41] Speaker 2: can do for you. He can go get you 35.
[5:45] Speaker 2: And this league, to this day, there is no more
[5:50] Speaker 2: valuable skill than being able to go get buckets. It's
[5:55] Speaker 2: a really, really important thing to be able to do.
[5:58] Speaker 2: And Jalen Brown is able to go get buckets.
[6:01] Speaker 3: Go get buckets in the regular season and in the playoffs.
[6:03] Speaker 2: Regular, yes. Yes, and I think the... But.
[6:07] Speaker 2: Here's the thing about that, though. Stick with me for
[6:09] Speaker 2: a second on this, where I think is an important
[6:11] Speaker 2: distinction to make. Where it's really helpful to have a
[6:17] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown is when your number two guy can go
[6:20] Speaker 2: out there and get you 35.
[6:23] Speaker 3: Right.
[6:24] Speaker 2: Where your best player, for whatever reason, is only going
[6:26] Speaker 2: to be able to get you 27. Don't worry, I'm
[6:28] Speaker 2: over here. I can get you 35. I can do this, too.
[6:31] Speaker 2: It's the value that Jalen Williams played with the Oklahoma
[6:34] Speaker 2: City Thunder in their championship run, for example. Like James
[6:38] Speaker 2: Worthy is a great example of this in NBA history, right?
[6:41] Speaker 2: If that other guy that you got can go get
[6:44] Speaker 2: you 35 on a night where you need it. Kyrie Irving,
[6:47] Speaker 2: Klay Thompson, right? Even if it's not a, I left
[6:50] Speaker 2: the house today and I'm going to go get 35
[6:53] Speaker 2: type of 35. Just acknowledge that, hey, we got another
[6:55] Speaker 2: guy out here too that could also get you into
[6:57] Speaker 2: high 30s if it comes down to it, right? That
[6:59] Speaker 2: if he's really rolling, we can just say, it's your world,
[7:01] Speaker 2: big baby. You can take it. There's a value in
[7:04] Speaker 2: having that. The thing is, let I just say, it's
[7:07] Speaker 2: really helpful to have that guy as your second best player.
[7:12] Speaker 2: And he's getting paid like not just somebody's best player,
[7:17] Speaker 2: but like the best player in the goddamn league. Like
[7:20] Speaker 2: remember when he signed that contract, it was like the
[7:22] Speaker 2: biggest contract in the history of the NBA. And It
[7:26] Speaker 2: was the kind of contract that you signed guys to
[7:30] Speaker 2: under the paradigm under which that deal was signed, which
[7:32] Speaker 2: is if you are the Boston Celtics and your number
[7:35] Speaker 2: two players deal is up, you pay them. It's also
[7:39] Speaker 2: with an understanding of how the max contract worked, which
[7:42] Speaker 2: is the max contract is a ceiling, which is to
[7:47] Speaker 2: say that it is entirely possible that somebody's value exceeds that, right?
[7:53] Speaker 2: The max contract under that era did not require that
[7:56] Speaker 2: you grade on a curve. And what I mean by
[7:58] Speaker 2: that is when you grade on a curve, one person
[8:01] Speaker 2: gets the A +. Everybody else's grade is slotted based
[8:04] Speaker 2: on that A +. It's not really how it worked there, right?
[8:08] Speaker 2: The max contract thing is A plus is the highest grade.
[8:10] Speaker 2: But hey, we got two guys that get A pluses.
[8:12] Speaker 2: And so you go ahead and throw it out there, okay?
[8:15] Speaker 2: Things are a little different now in the way the
[8:18] Speaker 2: deals are done and the way the CBA is going
[8:20] Speaker 2: to work. And Giving Robin all this money is something
[8:25] Speaker 2: that teams are not going to be able to continue
[8:27] Speaker 2: to do. And not only is it something that teams
[8:29] Speaker 2: are not really going to be able to continue to do,
[8:32] Speaker 2: those who have already given Robin these giant deals, those
[8:35] Speaker 2: are the teams that are going to have to reckon
[8:37] Speaker 2: with what those decisions are. This is a decision that
[8:40] Speaker 2: the New York Knicks are going to have to deal
[8:41] Speaker 2: with with Carl Anthony Towns. He's got that giant salary
[8:44] Speaker 2: that they're going to have to deal with, with him
[8:46] Speaker 2: being their second best player that you can't necessarily count on.
[8:51] Speaker 2: I mean, Carl was great in the postseason, but we
[8:53] Speaker 2: also saw how he ended the postseason. He wasn't great.
[8:55] Speaker 2: He's not necessarily the guy that you can count on
[8:58] Speaker 2: in the same way that Jalen Brown is not necessarily
[9:02] Speaker 2: the guy that you can count on. And when you
[9:05] Speaker 2: ask the question as to why it is that the
[9:06] Speaker 2: Celtics probably needed to make this move, they needed to
[9:09] Speaker 2: get from under that. And I think that there was
[9:11] Speaker 2: a recognition that they needed to. And again, I don't
[9:14] Speaker 2: know why you don't go get Giannis if that's the play.
[9:17] Speaker 2: Or maybe, look, something in their spreadsheet or whatever told
[9:20] Speaker 2: them that the numbers are going to be bad in salary.
[9:22] Speaker 2: I don't know. But there are a million different reasons
[9:26] Speaker 2: to trade Jalen Brown. There are a bunch of them.
[9:31] Speaker 2: What happened, though, and where it got weird, and I
[9:34] Speaker 2: think that this happens often with these guys where the
[9:36] Speaker 2: analytics tell a different story than a lot of our
[9:39] Speaker 2: eye tests tell us, is somebody needs to come out
[9:42] Speaker 2: here and seem really smart about explaining why it is
[9:46] Speaker 2: that a team would trade him, and you wind up
[9:50] Speaker 2: with something like what Bobby Marks reported, that somebody had
[9:52] Speaker 2: told him that they saw Jalen Brown as the seventh
[9:55] Speaker 2: best player on that team. Now, to me, I thought
[9:57] Speaker 2: that was an interesting factoid and not really something worth
[10:00] Speaker 2: being upset about. I thought it was an interesting factoid
[10:03] Speaker 2: in that I bet there are numbers that you could
[10:06] Speaker 2: point to where somebody will say that about him.
[10:11] Speaker 1: Right?
[10:12] Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean he's their seventh best player.
[10:15] Speaker 3: Right.
[10:15] Speaker 2: Like I did not receive that or hear that as
[10:18] Speaker 2: the defining outlook as to what kind of player Jalen
[10:20] Speaker 2: Brown was. But you can go look at those numbers
[10:22] Speaker 2: and see how somebody would come to that conclusion. Yeah.
[10:25] Speaker 2: But then once that happened, now it's a whole goddamn battle.
[10:30] Speaker 2: And you know, this battle, we've talked about it in
[10:32] Speaker 2: the past. It's the athletes versus the math elites.
[10:39] Speaker 3: Right?
[10:40] Speaker 2: And team captain for the athletes I saw was my
[10:43] Speaker 2: man David West.
[10:45] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[10:45] Speaker 2: And he was not hearing none of this shit from
[10:48] Speaker 2: the math elites, dog.
[10:49] Speaker 3: No. Even when he was on the Warriors, he was
[10:52] Speaker 3: still taking 17-footers.
[10:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But hey, man, if you can make them,
[10:57] Speaker 2: You can make them. The problem with the math elites,
[10:59] Speaker 2: and I think, I don't know how many of these
[11:00] Speaker 2: math elites were actual people, right? But the math elites
[11:03] Speaker 2: get really, really, really defensive, right? The athletes also get really, really,
[11:10] Speaker 2: really defensive. And I'm not saying this about David West,
[11:13] Speaker 2: just to be clear. I want to say this part generally.
[11:16] Speaker 2: I think a lot of the athletes can feel a
[11:19] Speaker 2: little insecure and feel like the math elites are saying
[11:22] Speaker 2: they are smarter than them, which is often happening.
[11:27] Speaker 1: Right.
[11:28] Speaker 2: And I think often the math elites don't notice they
[11:30] Speaker 2: doing it because when this happens in athlete versus math elite,
[11:33] Speaker 2: it is very often white people versus black people. And
[11:36] Speaker 2: that's just the way white folks talk to us. All
[11:39] Speaker 2: the goddamn time.
[11:41] Speaker 4: Right.
[11:41] Speaker 2: They don't notice they're being patronized. It's just they just
[11:45] Speaker 2: talk it right now. They talk to their fellow whites
[11:48] Speaker 2: the same way when it comes to these things. But anyway,
[11:51] Speaker 2: on the other side, the math elites have their insecurity
[11:54] Speaker 2: because they dorks. and these other guys aren't, right? It's
[12:00] Speaker 2: the tension that exists in all these spaces and all
[12:03] Speaker 2: the time. It's always there. But in sports, the math
[12:06] Speaker 2: elites took a disproportionate amount of power and decision-making and
[12:10] Speaker 2: everything else, and often at the expense of the experiential
[12:14] Speaker 2: knowledge that is possessed by the athletes, okay? But you
[12:18] Speaker 2: don't even have to be a basketball player to get
[12:20] Speaker 2: to Jalen Brown's, not the Celtics' seventh best player. But
[12:26] Speaker 2: it is fair to ask Is he worth paying $ 50 million?
[12:31] Speaker 3: A third of your salary slot for what is essentially
[12:35] Speaker 3: becoming a hard cap sport. Yes.
[12:37] Speaker 2: Now, on another day, someone can explain to me how
[12:41] Speaker 2: Philadelphia is making this work with Maxie and Embiid already
[12:45] Speaker 2: under that. Embiid's not different. We'll get to that part, right?
[12:52] Speaker 2: But this is me talking. I believe that the numbers,
[13:00] Speaker 2: I don't even want to call them necessarily advanced. I
[13:02] Speaker 2: want to call them, we'll call them, I don't even
[13:03] Speaker 2: know if non-conventional is the right way to put it,
[13:05] Speaker 2: because these numbers aren't necessarily advanced. But the on-off numbers
[13:08] Speaker 2: have come up a lot for Jalen Brown. And I
[13:11] Speaker 2: actually looked at the on-off numbers this morning before we
[13:14] Speaker 2: recorded this, and I think there's a really interesting story
[13:18] Speaker 2: there that's not actually being told for reasons that I
[13:21] Speaker 2: don't quite understand. And for those who don't understand how
[13:25] Speaker 2: on-off numbers work, it's very simple. It's just a matter
[13:28] Speaker 2: of what is the point differential for your team when
[13:33] Speaker 2: you are on the floor? What is the point differential
[13:36] Speaker 2: for your team when you're not on your floor? Is
[13:39] Speaker 2: your team better off when you are on the floor
[13:42] Speaker 2: or off the floor? And for much of Jalen Brown's career,
[13:46] Speaker 2: his teams have been better with him off the floor
[13:50] Speaker 2: than they were with him on the floor. This includes
[13:54] Speaker 2: the 2024 postseason where he won a conference finals MVP
[13:58] Speaker 2: and NBA finals MVP. I want to say something per
[14:01] Speaker 2: 100 possessions. They were 7.5 points worse with him on
[14:05] Speaker 2: the floor than on. And this is when he won
[14:08] Speaker 2: all the stuff.
[14:10] Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[14:11] Speaker 2: That's not good. But you know who else doesn't really
[14:15] Speaker 2: have great odd-off numbers or hasn't for the last couple
[14:18] Speaker 2: of full seasons that he's played? Jason Tatum. And that
[14:22] Speaker 2: was not always the case with Jason Tatum. I would
[14:24] Speaker 2: also say that wasn't always the case with Jalen Brown
[14:27] Speaker 2: from looking at the numbers. Something changed when Missoula took over.
[14:31] Speaker 2: I don't have a great answer for what it is.
[14:33] Speaker 2: With Tatum, it gets better once he gets to the postseason,
[14:36] Speaker 2: or it has gotten better in the postseason under Missoula,
[14:38] Speaker 2: but not so much the same way with Jalen Brown. Now,
[14:41] Speaker 2: maybe part of that is Missoula ball got a lot
[14:43] Speaker 2: of try hard in it, and you can do a
[14:45] Speaker 2: lot in the regular season just by trying hard. You
[14:47] Speaker 2: know what I mean? You can get a lot done
[14:49] Speaker 2: trying hard. It don't necessarily work the same way in
[14:51] Speaker 2: the postseason. But I say all that to say that
[14:54] Speaker 2: the on-off stuff It begs more, it gives more questions,
[14:58] Speaker 2: I would say, than answers when it comes to Brown,
[15:01] Speaker 2: because I could say something very similar also about Jason Tatum, right? However,
[15:09] Speaker 2: I don't think those numbers speak to a superstar caliber player.
[15:16] Speaker 2: I just don't. You could say that Jalen Brown, and
[15:19] Speaker 2: it sounds like what a lot of games where Jalen
[15:21] Speaker 2: Brown has been there, that is true. The question is
[15:24] Speaker 2: how much is his contribution to the winning, not just
[15:27] Speaker 2: his contribution to the scoring. My man Tom Haberstroh, I
[15:31] Speaker 2: believe it was him, he wrote something really interesting about
[15:33] Speaker 2: like with numbers involving Brown. But it's one thing to
[15:37] Speaker 2: be a really good offensive player. It's another thing to
[15:39] Speaker 2: be an engine that the offense works off of. And
[15:42] Speaker 2: he's not an engine. He's a guy that can go
[15:45] Speaker 2: get you buckets. He's also a guy that dribbles a
[15:47] Speaker 2: lot even though he can't dribble. And a guy that
[15:49] Speaker 2: gets the ball took from him a lot because he
[15:51] Speaker 2: dribbles a lot even though he can't dribble. You see
[15:54] Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Like, there's a complexity to who this
[15:58] Speaker 2: guy is as a player. But in the end, he's
[16:01] Speaker 2: able to get buckets. And getting buckets is important if
[16:06] Speaker 2: we want to say you're getting buckets is important. Like,
[16:09] Speaker 2: I don't think anybody was saying that Kiki Vandeway was
[16:11] Speaker 2: a top 10 player in the NBA back when Kiki
[16:13] Speaker 2: Vandeway was averaging 30 points a game. For example. You know?
[16:20] Speaker 3: Um.
[16:20] Speaker 2: So, like, to me, Jalen Brown's probably in the top
[16:23] Speaker 2: 20 class of player. By the way, it's really, really
[16:25] Speaker 2: good guys up that high. Do I think he's a
[16:27] Speaker 2: top 10 player? Probably not. Do I think that he's
[16:30] Speaker 2: one of the best two-way players in the NBA? Jalen
[16:32] Speaker 2: Brown is the new Klay Thompson, which is all this
[16:35] Speaker 2: stuff I hear about how good he plays defense, yet
[16:38] Speaker 2: nobody ever wants to put him on an all-defense team.
[16:41] Speaker 2: And I just don't understand how those two things are
[16:44] Speaker 2: the case at the same time. Right? Anyway... I say
[16:48] Speaker 2: all that to say there are reasons that the Celtics
[16:51] Speaker 2: would make a trade involving Jalen Brown that are easy
[16:56] Speaker 2: to understand that don't require going into a hyperbolic space
[17:05] Speaker 2: in discussing him as a player or as a person
[17:09] Speaker 2: because Ryan, apparently while I was gone, did Colin kind
[17:15] Speaker 2: of get like, a little profiled, but it's his own
[17:18] Speaker 2: fault on this one.
[17:20] Speaker 3: Yes. This is the short answer.
[17:22] Speaker 2: Okay. So, so I want you to stay with me here.
[17:25] Speaker 2: Let me know if I'm, let me know if I'm,
[17:27] Speaker 2: if I'm looking at this wrong, because this is the
[17:29] Speaker 2: way that I looked at this. Colin Coward got on
[17:31] Speaker 2: after this trade and said something about talking to a
[17:33] Speaker 2: couple of NBA executives. And they say that Jalen Brown
[17:36] Speaker 2: has the disease of believing that he's the smartest person
[17:38] Speaker 2: in the room. And he went from there to say
[17:41] Speaker 2: that basically he feels like the people he talked to
[17:44] Speaker 2: feel like Jalen Brown doesn't listen to anybody. But his
[17:47] Speaker 2: explanation was, you get money and then dot, dot, dot.
[17:50] Speaker 1: Yes. Right?
[17:53] Speaker 2: Which then quickly became, that's what they say about black people.
[18:00] Speaker 3: Sort of.
[18:01] Speaker 2: I mean, and I am speaking in this conversation as
[18:04] Speaker 2: a person that has many times been accused of being,
[18:06] Speaker 2: of believing that he himself is the smartest person in
[18:09] Speaker 2: the room. Right? Like, I've been in this place and
[18:13] Speaker 2: I understand it. I also say this as somebody who,
[18:15] Speaker 2: Who finds it incredibly frustrating when someone believes themselves to
[18:18] Speaker 2: be the smartest person in the room? And I don't
[18:20] Speaker 2: think they're as smart as me. We're going to keep
[18:24] Speaker 2: all those things together at one time here and get
[18:26] Speaker 2: back to the Colin part.
[18:28] Speaker 1: Right.
[18:30] Speaker 2: The first time I heard people say that they believe
[18:32] Speaker 2: that Jalen Brown had a problem believing he was the
[18:34] Speaker 2: smartest guy in the room was six years ago coming
[18:36] Speaker 2: out of the bubble. And that was coming from black people. Okay,
[18:39] Speaker 2: that was coming from the player end of things. This
[18:42] Speaker 2: is not the first time anybody has said this about
[18:45] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown. It's not the first time this has been
[18:47] Speaker 2: said about anybody else. This is also something that white
[18:50] Speaker 2: people have to deal with people being frustrated with them
[18:52] Speaker 2: about all the time is the idea of you think
[18:54] Speaker 2: you're the smartest person in the room. And again, there
[18:57] Speaker 2: are two types of circumstances where this happens, which is
[19:01] Speaker 2: when the problem really is that they don't like that
[19:03] Speaker 2: you're the smartest person in the room. And when people
[19:06] Speaker 2: know good and goddamn well that you are not.
[19:07] Speaker 1: Okay.
[19:08] Speaker 2: I would also make the point that Jalen Brown on
[19:10] Speaker 2: his stream, his response to this idea that he thinks
[19:14] Speaker 2: he's the smartest person in the room was to say
[19:17] Speaker 2: the bar is pretty fucking low, which is exactly what
[19:20] Speaker 2: you say when you believe you are the smartest person
[19:23] Speaker 2: in the room.
[19:24] Speaker 3: His defense to people saying everyone thinks he's the smartest
[19:27] Speaker 3: person in the room is, well, everyone else in the
[19:29] Speaker 3: room is pretty dumb. Yes, yes.
[19:31] Speaker 2: But by the way, people don't like... Right. I've said this.
[19:36] Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard me say this, but
[19:37] Speaker 2: this is the truth. OK, if you exist in a
[19:40] Speaker 2: space where people really, really believe that you're smart, it
[19:43] Speaker 2: behooves you to find a way to make that something
[19:46] Speaker 2: that works for other people.
[19:48] Speaker 4: Right.
[19:49] Speaker 2: It behooves you. to find a way to present that
[19:51] Speaker 2: in a way where people appreciate having access to that
[19:54] Speaker 2: resource as opposed to feeling like you always need to
[19:59] Speaker 2: lord it over them. I was talking to a friend
[20:02] Speaker 2: of mine, Ryan, that you may know, and I was
[20:04] Speaker 2: explaining to him that like, hey man, you're talking about
[20:08] Speaker 2: how His wife doesn't like it if she feels like
[20:14] Speaker 2: he is doing the I'm smarter than you thing.
[20:17] Speaker 3: I know exactly what we're talking about.
[20:19] Speaker 2: And so my thing is, I'm like, hey, man, I
[20:21] Speaker 2: said it to him, just level with him. I was like, hey, brother,
[20:23] Speaker 2: this is what you got to understand. She knows this
[20:27] Speaker 2: and she humbles herself every day before you with this recognition.
[20:31] Speaker 2: You don't know what it's like to have to humble
[20:33] Speaker 2: yourself every day to the idea that somebody else is
[20:37] Speaker 2: smarter than you. I imagine that's not a lot of
[20:40] Speaker 2: fun to do, right? So you got to show deference
[20:45] Speaker 2: to that fact.
[20:45] Speaker 3: Yes, if you're actually smarter than, you know.
[20:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if it really is.
[20:50] Speaker 3: Then it's on you to, you know, help the other
[20:52] Speaker 3: person in this relationship.
[20:54] Speaker 2: It's not an easy position to be in is what
[20:56] Speaker 2: I'm saying, right? And you got to get this. Jayla
[20:58] Speaker 2: Brown's response.
[21:01] Speaker 1: Is.
[21:01] Speaker 3: It's for someone who hasn't learned that fact.
[21:04] Speaker 2: Well, someone hasn't learned that, but also the criticism of
[21:07] Speaker 2: him among a lot of people is that it is
[21:10] Speaker 2: the performance of smart that they don't like. Right. I
[21:16] Speaker 2: saw the internet catch on fire talking about this, this
[21:20] Speaker 2: whole notion of Jalen Brown. And well, you know, I
[21:25] Speaker 2: don't know how smart Jalen Brown is personally. I just
[21:28] Speaker 2: want to make two points. One Kyrie, his OG number two,
[21:34] Speaker 2: He was represented by Donda Sports at a time where
[21:40] Speaker 2: the president of the agency was Antonio Brown. Does that
[21:48] Speaker 2: sound like some smart shit to you? And I remember
[21:54] Speaker 2: when Antonio Brown was the head of Donda Sports, I
[21:57] Speaker 2: did a show with Dominique. We made short content about this.
[21:59] Speaker 2: You can find it. I did a show with Dominique
[22:01] Speaker 2: where I said that to him. And Dominique's first response was,
[22:04] Speaker 2: I don't want to hear nothing about how smart Jalen
[22:06] Speaker 2: Brown is ever again.
[22:08] Speaker 1: Right.
[22:08] Speaker 2: Like like off off of that simple detail and right there.
[22:12] Speaker 3: Right.
[22:13] Speaker 2: That's that's what we got. When people talk to me
[22:15] Speaker 2: about how smart Jalen Brown is, they always tell me
[22:19] Speaker 2: it's interesting. It's always some proxy. He he did a
[22:24] Speaker 2: lecture at Harvard. Right. He took a master's class when
[22:29] Speaker 2: he was in college. I had somebody talk about how
[22:31] Speaker 2: educated he was and I was like, he went to
[22:33] Speaker 2: college for a year. Again, I'm not saying that he's
[22:37] Speaker 2: not smart. I just haven't seen it myself personally. And
[22:43] Speaker 2: for me, the bar is pretty fucking high for us
[22:46] Speaker 2: to get out here and have this discussion, right? Like
[22:48] Speaker 2: that's where it stands to be. But we didn't have
[22:50] Speaker 2: to go to any of these places. It didn't have
[22:52] Speaker 2: to get to any of this. Keep in mind, somebody
[22:55] Speaker 2: was willing to trade for Kyrie and pay him. And
[22:58] Speaker 2: he's a much bigger pain in the ass, at least
[23:00] Speaker 2: he was, than this guy has been, right?
[23:04] Speaker 1: Um.
[23:05] Speaker 2: I do think for the Celtics, you kind of had
[23:07] Speaker 2: to look up and they said to themselves, this dude
[23:10] Speaker 2: scored 29 points a game, but he used 36% of
[23:12] Speaker 2: the possessions.
[23:16] Speaker 1: Right?
[23:16] Speaker 2: Is that the world that they wanted to live in
[23:18] Speaker 2: going into the future? I don't think they did, right?
[23:22] Speaker 2: I just think that there were a lot of ways
[23:24] Speaker 2: to talk about why Jalen Brown got traded. And internet
[23:29] Speaker 2: broke our brains. It seemed that so many people went
[23:32] Speaker 2: straight to the ones that were going to get people infuriated.
[23:35] Speaker 2: as opposed to the one that used to get people
[23:37] Speaker 2: infuriated back in the day that just don't do the
[23:39] Speaker 2: job no more. He makes $ 50 million! They don't want
[23:44] Speaker 2: to pay that shit! Hey, man. Shout out to the
[23:54] Speaker 2: Lakers and LeBron James who realized there was no need
[23:58] Speaker 2: to make it petty at the end, even though it
[24:00] Speaker 2: is very obvious that they told LeBron that he was
[24:03] Speaker 2: done in that town.
[24:04] Speaker 3: They spent the last eight years making it petty. So
[24:07] Speaker 3: I think, yeah.
[24:09] Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, LeBron came out and said, hey, ladies,
[24:11] Speaker 2: go on about their business. He won't be going back there.
[24:14] Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, that's how that went. Yeah, I
[24:21] Speaker 2: believe you, dog. It's not how that went. This is
[24:24] Speaker 2: where I don't have any idea. I don't know what's
[24:26] Speaker 2: a good idea for anybody where you should go any
[24:29] Speaker 2: of this stuff, right? He became very similar to Jalen
[24:32] Speaker 2: Brown in the sense of, hey, man, this ain't no 50...
[24:35] Speaker 2: we don't pay you $ 50 million anymore.
[24:37] Speaker 3: Right. Right.
[24:38] Speaker 2: We used to, but we don't, we don't pay a
[24:40] Speaker 2: guy like you $ 50 million anymore. Um, so what do
[24:44] Speaker 2: we do now? Where does he go? Your agent does
[24:48] Speaker 2: a podcast where he does a flow chart, whatever the fuck,
[24:52] Speaker 2: where he just had all the teams and all the,
[24:54] Speaker 2: that was the wildest thing I've ever seen. I've never,
[24:57] Speaker 2: the idea that your agent would turn this into content
[25:00] Speaker 2: like that.
[25:01] Speaker 3: I am a flip flopping with between, uh, That is
[25:05] Speaker 3: terrible podcasting.
[25:06] Speaker 2: Oh, that was great.
[25:07] Speaker 3: And that is terrific podcasting.
[25:08] Speaker 2: That was great content.
[25:09] Speaker 3: He's up there basically trying to prove the JFK assassination.
[25:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also a thorough explanation of the thought
[25:17] Speaker 2: process of the man who's been the face of the
[25:20] Speaker 2: NBA for the last almost 20 years and where he
[25:24] Speaker 2: would go, like how the decisions are being made. You know,
[25:28] Speaker 2: I think it's weird that Rich gets on there and
[25:30] Speaker 2: talks about so many things. But if there's any place
[25:32] Speaker 2: that Rich Paul has expertise, it's negotiating something for LeBron James.
[25:36] Speaker 3: And LeBron James' thought process and the big decisions.
[25:39] Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, the only thing about it is, no matter
[25:44] Speaker 2: what Rich Paul say, what has been very clear is
[25:46] Speaker 2: there's one man who makes decisions about what's going to happen.
[25:49] Speaker 2: It is LeBron James.
[25:50] Speaker 3: For sure.
[25:50] Speaker 2: And as far as I can tell, It's been a
[25:52] Speaker 2: long time since LeBron James made a decision about where
[25:55] Speaker 2: to play basketball that was simply a basketball decision. The
[25:58] Speaker 2: one time that he did that, everybody got mad at him.
[26:01] Speaker 2: So everything's been a story after that. He went to
[26:03] Speaker 2: Cleveland because he wanted to bring one home. He went
[26:05] Speaker 2: to L.A. because he wanted to be a movie star, right?
[26:09] Speaker 2: There's no telling what the ultimate driving and deciding factor
[26:14] Speaker 2: will be. I just think it's important to note that
[26:18] Speaker 2: you can't keep betting on things Year 24 health.
[26:25] Speaker 1: Right.
[26:26] Speaker 2: It's not a wise play. He can't play with so
[26:31] Speaker 2: much defense. I thought he did a good job, obviously,
[26:35] Speaker 2: as the third option or ever was in L.A., and
[26:37] Speaker 2: then when they needed him to step up in the playoffs, obviously,
[26:40] Speaker 2: he did that, and it went well. But I don't...
[26:47] Speaker 2: When they ran Barry Bonds out of baseball, he was
[26:49] Speaker 2: still one of the 10 best hitters in the league.
[26:52] Speaker 2: It just kind of stopped being worth it. I don't...
[26:57] Speaker 2: Are you winning a championship with LeBron James on your team?
[27:02] Speaker 3: I think there is... If he's a... If he takes
[27:06] Speaker 3: the veteran minimum, which it sounds like he's going to
[27:08] Speaker 3: have to, I think that's on the board.
[27:10] Speaker 2: I am so... Yeah, but I'm saying this. Even if
[27:14] Speaker 2: he does.
[27:17] Speaker 2: What is the level of contribution that you need from him?
[27:20] Speaker 2: What is the team or the way that you put
[27:22] Speaker 2: a team around him? How long is it going to
[27:24] Speaker 2: be before teams just start hunting him on defense relentlessly?
[27:30] Speaker 2: Who are we here now? We're here in Miami. We're
[27:34] Speaker 2: here in Golden State.
[27:35] Speaker 3: We're in Cleveland.
[27:36] Speaker 1: Cleveland.
[27:37] Speaker 3: We're in Minnesota.
[27:38] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[27:40] Speaker 2: That's... He ain't going to no goddamn Minnesota. Yeah.
[27:45] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that was on the conspiracy whiteboard.
[27:50] Speaker 2: Let us not forget what would be interesting is former
[27:53] Speaker 2: clutch client Anthony Edwards in Minnesota.
[27:56] Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't put that one together.
[27:58] Speaker 2: Let me tell you, man, we're going to get to
[28:00] Speaker 2: this a little bit later also, but the idea of
[28:02] Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards, LaMelo Ball, and LeBron James, Minnesota is not.
[28:08] Speaker 2: Minnesota could barely handle Prince Morris and Jerome. At the
[28:12] Speaker 2: same time, I don't know if they can handle all
[28:15] Speaker 2: of this. God damn. That's a chaotic situation.
[28:18] Speaker 3: I mean, you have to remember Kyler's going to be there, too.
[28:20] Speaker 3: That's true. That is true.
[28:22] Speaker 2: But it is crazy, though, that he is good enough
[28:24] Speaker 2: that we actually have to have.
[28:26] Speaker 3: He's the best free agent available. Yeah.
[28:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's fair. I just don't know how
[28:33] Speaker 2: we keep doing this. And personally, I'm personally tired of it.
[28:37] Speaker 2: I'm just ready to move on to other stuff. The
[28:38] Speaker 2: other stuff is really dope in the league right now. Right. Like,
[28:41] Speaker 2: like this is, you know, this is, and this is
[28:43] Speaker 2: really interesting. And it's actually a testament to how good
[28:45] Speaker 2: he's been. No matter how long it went with Shaq,
[28:49] Speaker 2: when he showed up to a place that still had
[28:50] Speaker 2: had a press conference, like even when he got to Boston,
[28:53] Speaker 2: by the way, just so people don't get this twisted.
[28:56] Speaker 2: Shaq was unguardable every day that he played in the NBA.
[28:59] Speaker 2: He was still unguardable in Cleveland. And he was still really,
[29:02] Speaker 2: you still had to deal with him in Boston. I
[29:06] Speaker 2: just want to be clear. Shaq was never a bad player,
[29:11] Speaker 2: but he didn't really matter anymore. But you always had
[29:15] Speaker 2: to have the press conference. LeBron is kind of at
[29:19] Speaker 2: the got to have the press conference point, except he's
[29:22] Speaker 2: way better than Shaq was in the last year of Shaq.
[29:26] Speaker 2: And he's like, he's still there. He's still something. And
[29:29] Speaker 2: I just don't care.
[29:30] Speaker 3: It's over.
[29:31] Speaker 2: This is done. This is, we have wrung everything out
[29:34] Speaker 2: of the story that there is. Now that is for me.
[29:36] Speaker 2: If I am him, I'm playing until I don't want
[29:38] Speaker 2: to play anymore. And apparently that will be for every
[29:42] Speaker 2: satchel fucking page. I just cannot believe that he has
[29:45] Speaker 2: not found a single other thing to do with his life.
[29:50] Speaker 3: Golf's getting close.
[29:52] Speaker 2: Well, golf is getting close, but you know, he tried
[29:53] Speaker 2: the production company thing and they don't really do that anymore.
[29:56] Speaker 1: Right?
[29:57] Speaker 2: I guess, I don't know, but I just, I am
[30:00] Speaker 2: It is impressive that he can keep going this long.
[30:04] Speaker 2: Just because you can doesn't mean you should. But if
[30:09] Speaker 2: I were him, probably do the same thing.
[30:13] Speaker 3: Do you think it's on the board? How long do
[30:16] Speaker 3: you think this is going to go on?
[30:20] Speaker 2: It better go on past Wednesday because we got a
[30:23] Speaker 2: recording schedule that does not involve him making any decisions
[30:26] Speaker 2: this week.
[30:27] Speaker 3: I would... Whatever the date is, I'll take the over.
[30:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I mean, he's got a chance to bask
[30:33] Speaker 2: in this.
[30:35] Speaker 3: I think we're going to be closer to Labor Day
[30:41] Speaker 3: than July 4th. Ooh, I didn't think it would be
[30:45] Speaker 3: that long. I think it's more likely like the Roger
[30:51] Speaker 3: Clements path is available to him.
[30:55] Speaker 2: Ooh, I was thinking just, I was just thinking you're
[30:57] Speaker 2: going to do something next week.
[31:01] Speaker 3: I see a, I see a long, long, long content
[31:08] Speaker 3: gap that can be filled by LeBron James. And if
[31:13] Speaker 3: one thing we have learned over again, about 20 years, if,
[31:16] Speaker 3: if there is a content gap, LeBron James can and
[31:20] Speaker 3: will fill that gap.
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[38:46] Speaker 2: going to Minnesota.
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[38:49] Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of this. You know,
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[38:59] Speaker 3: I would use the term anyone defending LaMelo as apologist.
[39:02] Speaker 2: But no, I mean... The people, I mean, I'll be
[39:05] Speaker 2: watching them, right?
[39:06] Speaker 3: Yeah, fair. That's fair. Me neither. That's a good counter.
[39:09] Speaker 2: So, LeBron makes a lot of good points on a
[39:10] Speaker 2: lot of defenses of LaMelo, and he's not a bad
[39:13] Speaker 2: basketball player. He just seems to be such a moron.
[39:16] Speaker 2: And I don't mean that he is one. I don't know,
[39:18] Speaker 2: but he gives moron. Like, he gives it so strong
[39:22] Speaker 2: that we're, like, Anthony Edwards does not give morons. Even
[39:27] Speaker 2: though he had to prove himself, I think, to a
[39:29] Speaker 2: lot of people. But he's not giving you morons. LaMelo
[39:33] Speaker 2: with that stupid shit he be doing when he drives
[39:35] Speaker 2: and everything else, he's just giving that.
[39:38] Speaker 3: And LaMelo's been in our lives now for... 10 years
[39:42] Speaker 3: because of the LeVar Ball year. Yes. So we've known
[39:46] Speaker 3: about him for, we are in like several chapters into
[39:49] Speaker 3: the story.
[39:50] Speaker 2: We are, but I will tell you this, and I
[39:51] Speaker 2: think this part is easy to lose sight of. Man,
[39:54] Speaker 2: that's a big, talented backcourt. Kim and Ant together? Like,
[40:01] Speaker 2: there is a high end of this that could be really,
[40:03] Speaker 2: really excellent. And let's not forget, it's not like LaMelo
[40:05] Speaker 2: Ball has played with a lot of good players. Like,
[40:08] Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards is by far the best dude. that he
[40:10] Speaker 2: will have ever played with. Like Minnesota is going to
[40:12] Speaker 2: miss Nas Reed. It's going to be some things there,
[40:14] Speaker 2: but no, there's a world in which this works and
[40:19] Speaker 2: there is no question. It's going to be hilarious.
[40:24] Speaker 3: Can you imagine the two of them giving a press
[40:25] Speaker 3: conference together?
[40:27] Speaker 2: So that's going to be the other part too. Is
[40:28] Speaker 2: that like, when's the last time LaMelo wasn't the biggest deal?
[40:33] Speaker 3: Also, Anthony Edwards is very good at defending his teammates.
[40:36] Speaker 4: He is.
[40:36] Speaker 3: And he's had a lot of experience because he had
[40:39] Speaker 3: to defend Carl Anthony Jones.
[40:41] Speaker 2: This is a completely different archetype, right? He's gone from
[40:43] Speaker 2: having to do it with Carl and having to do
[40:45] Speaker 2: it with Rudy and having to do it with Eeyore.
[40:48] Speaker 2: And now he's got to do it with someone completely different.
[40:52] Speaker 3: Right. It is going to be interesting to see.
[40:56] Speaker 2: He's got to defend a guy that he's going to
[40:58] Speaker 2: be like, man, just let me talk to you.
[41:01] Speaker 3: Yeah, the problem was he was talking to four people.
[41:04] Speaker 3: That is correct.
[41:04] Speaker 2: Dollar, if you don't shut that shit up.
[41:08] Speaker 3: All right. The Soccer Bowl has been going on the
[41:11] Speaker 3: last few weeks. USA putting on a good performance. They'll
[41:15] Speaker 3: take on Belgium tonight in the round of 16. Big
[41:17] Speaker 3: news that Flo Baligan, who was previously suspended for a
[41:20] Speaker 3: red card, will be playing in this game. Bo, have
[41:24] Speaker 3: you been enjoying the Soccer Bowl so far?
[41:26] Speaker 2: So, first of all, are you familiar with the name
[41:29] Speaker 2: Jack Tunney? This is a decision Jack Tunney would have made.
[41:35] Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody out here who know who Jack
[41:37] Speaker 2: Tunney was. Jack Tunney was the man that they invented
[41:40] Speaker 2: in the 80s as the quote unquote commissioner of the WWF.
[41:45] Speaker 2: And it was time to come up with one of
[41:46] Speaker 2: these contrived decisions. Jack Tunney would decide, oh, we're stripping you.
[41:51] Speaker 2: The number one contender is whatever it is. This is
[41:54] Speaker 2: straight wrestling. Your rules do not allow you to rescind
[41:57] Speaker 2: a red card.
[41:59] Speaker 3: Right.
[41:59] Speaker 2: It's crazy that you don't have an appeal process, but
[42:02] Speaker 2: your rules just don't let it. And one thing that
[42:04] Speaker 2: the World Cup is always about is home cooking. And
[42:07] Speaker 2: so they're like, wow, this would probably be really bad
[42:08] Speaker 2: for business. And so, boom, there we go. He's going
[42:12] Speaker 2: to play. Let me tell you this about the soccer
[42:13] Speaker 2: ball ride. I watched a lot of soccer ball before
[42:16] Speaker 2: I left for a vacation.
[42:18] Speaker 1: OK.
[42:20] Speaker 2: You know where I went for a vacation. People don't
[42:22] Speaker 2: know where I went for vacation. I went to Italy
[42:24] Speaker 2: for the vacation. I don't know if you guys know this,
[42:27] Speaker 2: but I believe it's been three straight World Cups that
[42:29] Speaker 2: Italy has not qualified for. Ryan, I saw... zero evidence
[42:38] Speaker 2: of any World Cup.
[42:39] Speaker 1: Oh, really?
[42:40] Speaker 3: They're like all sitting out.
[42:42] Speaker 2: I saw nothing. I saw no, not running on no TVs,
[42:46] Speaker 2: not at the airport, not in the hotel, not in
[42:50] Speaker 2: no restaurant. They seem to be boycotting the World Cup
[42:54] Speaker 2: in Italy. It's like it's not happening. I've seen a
[42:58] Speaker 2: lot of wonderful internet discussion about the soccer ball. And
[43:02] Speaker 2: I just want to tell everybody something right fast because
[43:05] Speaker 2: I've seen it, okay? I've seen a lot of y'all
[43:08] Speaker 2: talk about how now y'all want to go to Cape Verde, right?
[43:12] Speaker 2: You've seen the women on the internet from Cape Verde.
[43:14] Speaker 2: You've seen the women in the crowds from Cape Verde.
[43:17] Speaker 2: And you want to book you a vacation to Cape Verde.
[43:20] Speaker 2: Talked to one of my Cape Verdean homeboys and he said,
[43:24] Speaker 2: you'd be better off going to the new Cape Verde
[43:29] Speaker 2: New Bedford, Massachusetts. That's where they at. It is most
[43:36] Speaker 2: likely that that bad little thing that you saw in
[43:39] Speaker 2: the crowd, she caught a flight from Logan. She did
[43:42] Speaker 2: not catch a flight from Kate Faraday in order to
[43:45] Speaker 2: go there. Just letting you know that. But boy, Kate
[43:49] Speaker 2: Faraday had beat Argentina, boy. It would have been cracking.
[43:56] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[43:57] Speaker 3: That would have been like... one of the biggest upsets
[43:59] Speaker 3: in sports history.
[44:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And look, man, you know,
[44:02] Speaker 2: I generally, or generally, like, I root at the World
[44:05] Speaker 2: Cup according to geopolitics, which is to say, I don't
[44:09] Speaker 2: know who Argentina would have to play in order for
[44:13] Speaker 2: me to root for them. I went to Argentina in April.
[44:17] Speaker 2: I was so surprised that nobody called me no names
[44:20] Speaker 2: to my face. Like, that's... I was bracing for it
[44:24] Speaker 2: the whole time. Like, Argentina... I don't think any country
[44:28] Speaker 2: got a worse rep than Argentina.
[44:32] Speaker 3: Any. For a variety of reasons.
[44:35] Speaker 2: I mean, it's earned, dog.
[44:37] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[44:37] Speaker 2: It is earned. But, like, it was my reminder. Everybody
[44:40] Speaker 2: goes somewhere overseas. People are like, yo, what about the racism?
[44:43] Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if you know where I'm from, dog.
[44:46] Speaker 2: But it won't be the first time.
[44:51] Speaker 3: All right, speaking of, we had a bit of an
[44:54] Speaker 3: ironic situation during the 25th, 250th celebration of July 4th. Several,
[45:01] Speaker 3: 5,000 Trump supporters got stuck riding out a DC storm
[45:06] Speaker 3: in the Smithsonian African American History Museum. Beau, what did
[45:11] Speaker 3: you make when you saw this?
[45:12] Speaker 2: First of all, I was not alive for the bicentennial.
[45:16] Speaker 2: But you heard about it. Like, it was a really big, $ 2. 51.
[45:22] Speaker 2: we really ain't got no school spirit like we used to, man.
[45:26] Speaker 3: For a variety of reasons.
[45:27] Speaker 2: It was also 150 degrees, at least in this part
[45:30] Speaker 2: of the world. But the idea that they had to
[45:32] Speaker 2: hang out at that museum, for me, is hilarious. And
[45:36] Speaker 2: I'm very curious, man, because the one thing I know
[45:38] Speaker 2: about my people, man, they was going to be willing
[45:40] Speaker 2: to show them folks around. You know? Like, hey, you
[45:43] Speaker 2: got any questions about whatever it is? How wild would
[45:46] Speaker 2: it be if somebody went in there and it was
[45:47] Speaker 2: like a Rocky IV moment? If I can change, anybody
[45:50] Speaker 2: can change. You know, the concert, no, no, no, we're
[45:54] Speaker 2: going to stay in here. We're going to just keep,
[45:56] Speaker 2: you know, tell me more. Hey, man, you go down,
[45:59] Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, that first flow, it started in 1619,
[46:04] Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken.
[46:08] Speaker 3: It is, yeah, it is not gentle.
[46:12] Speaker 2: In fact, now that I think about it, I'm glad
[46:14] Speaker 2: they ain't tearing that motherfucker up.
[46:22] Speaker 3: All right, Bo, several voicemails as we took a bit
[46:25] Speaker 3: of a hiatus from these. A lot of good ones.
[46:27] Speaker 3: Here's our first.
[46:29] Speaker 1: Hey, Bomani. Long time listener of your shows.
[46:31] Speaker 5: Always appreciated your perspective on sports and non-sports issues. Of
[46:36] Speaker 5: all the non-sports topics you venture off into, my favorite
[46:39] Speaker 5: by far is the city of New Orleans. I'm from
[46:43] Speaker 5: just outside Baltimore, and I've lived in seven states across
[46:45] Speaker 5: the country, and I was stationed in NOLA as a
[46:48] Speaker 5: Marine in fell chase for five years in the mid-2010s.
[46:53] Speaker 5: It is my favorite place in the world for any
[46:54] Speaker 5: number of reasons, and you can guess most of them
[46:57] Speaker 5: reasons have names and accents. I thought it was a
[47:00] Speaker 5: shame that it was not one of the host cities
[47:02] Speaker 5: for the World Cup this year, so I have a
[47:04] Speaker 5: hypothetical for you. If you could pick four countries to
[47:07] Speaker 5: play in New Orleans, which four countries' fans would make
[47:11] Speaker 5: the most entertaining cultural exchanges? This could be for good
[47:15] Speaker 5: reasons or bad. Unrelated, Where are we at on the
[47:19] Speaker 5: name Lester? I'm 41 and the.
[47:21] Speaker 1: Third Lester in a row of white Lesters out of
[47:24] Speaker 1: West Virginia. Thank you for your time.
[47:26] Speaker 5: I appreciate your work.
[47:30] Speaker 2: See the West Virginia part, right? Like once you do that,
[47:33] Speaker 2: anything is possible.
[47:34] Speaker 3: Correct.
[47:35] Speaker 2: Over there they all sound like randy moss right anything's
[47:39] Speaker 2: fine all right so like i feel like we would
[47:42] Speaker 2: have to send um well we have to send france
[47:45] Speaker 2: to new orleans i.
[47:46] Speaker 3: Think you have to send france or one of the
[47:48] Speaker 3: french-speaking african countries like morocco algeria.
[47:52] Speaker 2: I look i tell you this how about we send
[47:55] Speaker 2: because morocco they don't really speak french over there anymore
[47:58] Speaker 2: it's a real hodgepodge but let's see in Cote d'Ivoire
[48:01] Speaker 2: the way everybody be talking about Cape Verde Cote d'Ivoire
[48:06] Speaker 2: this is interesting I don't think I've met an Ivorian
[48:08] Speaker 2: person in my life and every time I watch a
[48:10] Speaker 2: soccer match where they be playing I be like damn
[48:12] Speaker 2: we need to fix that so yeah let's get them
[48:15] Speaker 2: down there let's think about sending the Mexicans.
[48:21] Speaker 3: I mean they'll have a great time.
[48:23] Speaker 2: They'll have a great time Ireland Ireland Yep.
[48:26] Speaker 3: Well, yeah, similar cultures, lots of drunks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[48:29] Speaker 2: I was going to say, there's going to be somebody
[48:31] Speaker 2: going to be fighting according to this. And do we
[48:35] Speaker 2: send the Japanese?
[48:36] Speaker 3: Yeah, just to really, yeah, really mix it up.
[48:38] Speaker 2: I just want to have some people be like, I
[48:41] Speaker 2: don't understand anything that's going on around me. Like, riddle
[48:45] Speaker 2: me this.
[48:47] Speaker 3: For sure. All right, here's our next one.
[48:51] Speaker 4: Joel Anderson is... maybe the funniest person I have ever
[48:55] Speaker 4: heard make words come out of his mouth hole. He
[49:00] Speaker 4: is the world's greatest hater. There is no second place.
[49:06] Speaker 4: Thank you for introducing the country and the world to
[49:11] Speaker 4: the greatest hater of all time. Haters ball, baby.
[49:15] Speaker 2: I don't know who that is, but he sounds like
[49:19] Speaker 2: up next, Al Jarreau on The Quiet Storm. My favorite thing, too,
[49:27] Speaker 2: is how everything that Joel says that makes everybody laugh
[49:29] Speaker 2: so hard, none of it's jokes.
[49:31] Speaker 3: Correct.
[49:32] Speaker 2: He means every word of those things.
[49:34] Speaker 3: He is the funniest person who never tries to be funny. No, no.
[49:37] Speaker 2: And like, we're lucky that like, he doesn't get mad
[49:40] Speaker 2: at us for laughing.
[49:41] Speaker 3: Correct.
[49:43] Speaker 2: Normally when people are funny, like that unintentionally, it's like
[49:45] Speaker 2: ghost face. Like, was that a joke?
[49:48] Speaker 3: All right. Here's our last one.
[49:51] Speaker 1: What's up? This is Andy from Marietta, Georgia. I just
[49:56] Speaker 1: wanted to call in with a little main story. Uh,
[50:00] Speaker 1: I went to a medical appointment earlier, and I had
[50:05] Speaker 1: a new-to-me doctor, and I saw that her name was Tanisha.
[50:10] Speaker 1: And so I was like, okay, cool. Without thinking about it,
[50:14] Speaker 1: my brain just reads that as that's going to be
[50:16] Speaker 1: a black woman. I've known several Tanishas. And then the
[50:22] Speaker 1: doctor walks in the room, and she is a white woman. And,
[50:27] Speaker 1: you know, I didn't comment on it, but I thought
[50:30] Speaker 1: that this would be, you know, immediately I was like,
[50:33] Speaker 1: this is something for the right time with Belani Jones.
[50:35] Speaker 1: So I thought I would throw that one y'all's way to,
[50:40] Speaker 1: you know, think about. I don't know if anybody else
[50:45] Speaker 1: has called him with a white Tanisha before, but that
[50:47] Speaker 1: does seem like a rare one. So it is a South,
[50:50] Speaker 1: you know, so I think that, as y'all discussed before,
[50:53] Speaker 1: there's some overlap. because that's just how we do down here. But, yeah,
[50:58] Speaker 1: love the show, y'all. I know there's kind of less
[51:01] Speaker 1: going on in the summer on the show, but hope
[51:04] Speaker 1: y'all are taking the time for yourselves, taking care of yourselves.
[51:08] Speaker 1: Thanks for all you do.
[51:09] Speaker 3: Love the show.
[51:09] Speaker 1: Bye.
[51:12] Speaker 2: Is it possible that why Tanisha's name is actually not
[51:15] Speaker 2: Tanisha and this is just a scam she's running to
[51:18] Speaker 2: get business in Atlanta?
[51:21] Speaker 3: If it is, it's a very good move.
[51:23] Speaker 2: I mean, I have to say, before we're thinking, it's
[51:26] Speaker 2: also on the board. Number two, right? You know who
[51:29] Speaker 2: else is from Marietta, Georgia? Jalen Brown.
[51:34] Speaker 3: That's incredible.
[51:35] Speaker 2: Wheeler High School's own. I just want to throw this
[51:38] Speaker 2: out there, by the way, and I'm not saying he
[51:39] Speaker 2: did this for real, but it's just coincidental. Like, you
[51:44] Speaker 2: know how Rick Ross took his whole thing for freeway
[51:47] Speaker 2: Ricky Ross? Just like completely... Jalen Brown did a lot
[51:52] Speaker 2: of Xerox in a Sharif Abdur-Rahim from the same place
[51:55] Speaker 2: they went to the same high school they both went
[51:57] Speaker 2: to Cal they both Muslims you know what I'm saying
[52:00] Speaker 2: like he's just doing it's a different spin on Sharif
[52:03] Speaker 2: but very similar and give it time and by the
[52:08] Speaker 2: way if Sharif was a different person Sharif would be
[52:11] Speaker 2: like put me on the Celtics see what I would
[52:14] Speaker 2: I mean Jalen Brown now I'm thinking about this Actually,
[52:18] Speaker 2: it's interesting. Basketball reference only has Jalen Brown as a 8.9%
[52:22] Speaker 2: chance of making the Hall of Fame. No, no, no, no.
[52:24] Speaker 2: He's going to the Hall of Fame. He's getting his
[52:25] Speaker 2: jersey retired. Finals MVP, champion with the Celtics. Like, he's
[52:30] Speaker 2: had a good career.
[52:32] Speaker 3: Yeah, five or six Hall of Star teams. Making the
[52:34] Speaker 3: Hall of Fame.
[52:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yep. And he a legend at the bank.
[52:38] Speaker 2: And that's why he got traded. But ladies and gentlemen,
[52:41] Speaker 2: thanks so much for joining us here on The Right Time.
[52:43] Speaker 2: We do this a couple times a week for the summer.
[52:46] Speaker 2: Ryan Brumley handling things behind the scenes. Thank you, sir.
[52:48] Speaker 2: Hit the voicemail line, 3-2-3-5-9-6-7-7-6-7. Remember, follow The Right Time. Subscribe, like,
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[53:01] Speaker 2: of days. Take it easy.

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