# A.J. Brown's fair complaints, Sean McDermott's hot seat, Ja Morant's absurd behavior | 11.14

An episode of [The Right Time with Bomani Jones](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/982639043), 14 Nov 2025, 50 min.

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Bomani Jones reacts to A.J. Brown's recent comments and explains why he believes his complaints about the Eagles' offense are fair. Later, he previews an incredible week of NFL action and asks if Sean McDermott might be on the hot seat if the Bills have a poor finish to their season. Finally, he reacts to a few storylines in the NBA, including Ja Morant's dissatisfaction with the Memphis Grizzlies, while closing out the show with a few listener voicemails. 01:15 - AJ Brown Drama 13:15-Bills Must win? 19:08 - NBA storylines 33:20 - Voicemails Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

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[0:36] Speaker 3: All right.
[0:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, gets bailed.
[0:40] Speaker 1: Anyway, we actually have a stupendous slate of NFL action
[0:44] Speaker 1: this weekend. And thank goodness, Ryan, because if we did not,
[0:46] Speaker 1: this would be a frantic, frantic program.
[0:50] Speaker 2: Correct.
[0:50] Speaker 4: But, you know, thankfully, the NFL, we did not have
[0:52] Speaker 4: a great slate of games yesterday. Last week, excuse me.
[0:56] Speaker 4: But this week it is. Excellent. Also, we got Texas,
[0:59] Speaker 4: Georgia that Saturday as well. Right.
[1:01] Speaker 2: We've got that.
[1:02] Speaker 1: But what we have on top of this that is
[1:05] Speaker 1: better than any of it is A.J.
[1:07] Speaker 2: Brown throwback NFL wide receiver. OK, now.
[1:13] Speaker 1: I actually don't even feel like this is truly throwback
[1:15] Speaker 1: wide receiver behavior because when I think about throwback wide
[1:17] Speaker 1: receiver behavior, I think about people acting bad, like just
[1:20] Speaker 1: being mad that they're not getting the ball and doing
[1:22] Speaker 1: a poor job of articulating perhaps that it's larger than them,
[1:25] Speaker 1: but it always just seemed like it was just about them.
[1:28] Speaker 2: But A.J.
[1:29] Speaker 1: Brown for the last year and a half has been
[1:31] Speaker 1: a little bit miffed that he's not getting the ball.
[1:33] Speaker 1: And by the way, so is Devontae Smith because their
[1:35] Speaker 1: problem doesn't simply appear to be that they're miffed about not.
[1:38] Speaker 2: Getting the ball.
[1:39] Speaker 1: The problem seems to be this offense stinks and everybody
[1:43] Speaker 1: knows it.
[1:44] Speaker 2: Can't you tell, right?
[1:46] Speaker 1: So yeah, you could run for 2000 yards of Saquon
[1:48] Speaker 1: Barkley last year and make everything work. But as is
[1:50] Speaker 1: often the case when a running back takes a bunch
[1:52] Speaker 1: of carries in a year and by the way, or
[1:54] Speaker 1: just gets to the age of Saquon Barkley, you can't
[1:58] Speaker 1: do this again. So in a very not throwback sort
[2:02] Speaker 1: of way, AJ Brown was perfect. on the stream playing
[2:07] Speaker 1: video games with somebody and somebody asked him some questions
[2:10] Speaker 1: about what was going on and what he was saying
[2:12] Speaker 1: with the offense. And he was saying, no, it's not
[2:15] Speaker 1: going good. Is it good enough? You know, all those
[2:18] Speaker 1: kinds of things.
[2:19] Speaker 2: And, you know.
[2:21] Speaker 1: From what I understand about you, people who play video
[2:24] Speaker 1: games to that level, you know, it's easy to like
[2:27] Speaker 1: forget that you're actually being recorded and people.
[2:30] Speaker 2: Can hear you. You know what I mean? You get
[2:32] Speaker 2: yourself just.
[2:32] Speaker 1: A little bit too comfortable and you say a little
[2:36] Speaker 1: bit too much. And I've been in situations where like
[2:39] Speaker 1: you're doing something that's.
[2:40] Speaker 2: Being recorded, but you do it with your friend.
[2:42] Speaker 1: And so you get a little bit too comfortable and
[2:45] Speaker 1: perhaps you say something, not that you didn't mean, but
[2:49] Speaker 1: something that you probably didn't. either didn't intend to say
[2:52] Speaker 1: or it was received in a way differently than you
[2:55] Speaker 1: expected just because you were so comfortable and you were
[2:58] Speaker 1: talking to a friend. And so you think since you're
[3:00] Speaker 1: talking to a friend, the fact that the rest of
[3:03] Speaker 1: the world can hear you goes away. And so your
[3:05] Speaker 1: friend understands your tone. Your friend understands what you mean.
[3:08] Speaker 1: Your friend extends you certain measures of grace if things
[3:12] Speaker 1: might be just a little bit.
[3:13] Speaker 2: Gruff, right?
[3:15] Speaker 1: But the rest of the world is listening and now
[3:17] Speaker 1: the rest of the world has questions. And You typically
[3:22] Speaker 1: have two options under those circumstances. Option one is just
[3:27] Speaker 1: not to say nothing about it. Just typically my choice.
[3:32] Speaker 1: Option two is to kind of be like, ah, you know,
[3:36] Speaker 1: maybe I got a little bit too comfortable.
[3:37] Speaker 2: That wasn't exactly what I meant. Those are normally the
[3:42] Speaker 2: two options. A.J. Brown went with the rarely used option three.
[3:52] Speaker 2: And option three for him, 10 toes down. Ryan, can
[3:59] Speaker 2: you play what A.J. Brown had to say?
[4:00] Speaker 5: A.J., can you explain the situation with the fact that
[4:03] Speaker 5: you said.
[4:04] Speaker 6: You took it?
[4:05] Speaker 4: It's not just solely.
[4:06] Speaker 3: About my situation.
[4:07] Speaker 7: I mean, guys, like, obviously, I want to win, too,
[4:09] Speaker 7: you know? And I think if we're really focusing on winning,
[4:14] Speaker 7: doing our job, like, we can't just keep slapping the
[4:16] Speaker 7: Band-Aid over the defense during their job. and getting us
[4:20] Speaker 7: out of trouble.
[4:21] Speaker 4: At what point are we going to.
[4:23] Speaker 7: Pick up our slack as an offense that we're so great,
[4:26] Speaker 7: you know? And that's what I'm getting at.
[4:28] Speaker 4: It's not about we're not winning or I don't care
[4:31] Speaker 4: about winning. All I care about is snap and step.
[4:33] Speaker 5: No.
[4:34] Speaker 4: It's been week after week sometimes.
[4:36] Speaker 2: We're not contributing. We're not doing our job on offense.
[4:39] Speaker 2: So you can't just keep slapping.
[4:40] Speaker 4: The Band-Aid over it.
[4:41] Speaker 2: You expect to win later in the year.
[4:42] Speaker 7: You don't think you're going to go to it at
[4:44] Speaker 7: the end of the year.
[4:44] Speaker 2: It's not going to fucking happen. It's not going to happen.
[4:46] Speaker 2: It's not going to happen.
[4:48] Speaker 6: You know?
[4:48] Speaker 8: Last year.
[4:49] Speaker 4: what it was.
[4:50] Speaker 7: Thank you for the ring but it's a new season
[4:52] Speaker 7: they adapted we have to adapt and we have to
[4:54] Speaker 7: continue to like get better and try to find new
[4:56] Speaker 7: ways so that's that's where the frustration comes in because
[4:59] Speaker 7: it's not about winning you guys like i want to
[5:02] Speaker 7: win yes and help contribute as well do our thing
[5:05] Speaker 7: on offense as well that's i think.
[5:07] Speaker 4: That's fair.
[5:09] Speaker 2: Right what was that in his.
[5:10] Speaker 4: Locker um it was a receipt that said jesus paid
[5:15] Speaker 4: it all oh.
[5:19] Speaker 2: Got to worry about a guy like that.
[5:20] Speaker 1: This dude in Dallas wants to sue Deion Sanders because
[5:23] Speaker 1: Deion took his car in to get fixed. When Buddy
[5:25] Speaker 1: asked for the money, Deion told him that Jesus told
[5:28] Speaker 1: him that he didn't have to pay.
[5:30] Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the truth.
[5:31] Speaker 2: I'm not making this up for you people who think
[5:33] Speaker 2: I'd be hating on Dion. That actually happened. So he
[5:35] Speaker 2: said Jesus paid the receipt. Now, OK, you you still
[5:39] Speaker 2: have to pay things to just just in case that
[5:43] Speaker 2: comes up. But you know what I find interesting about
[5:45] Speaker 2: this with A.J. Brown is that like it.
[5:47] Speaker 1: Sounds like he's pushing back on all this millennial zoomer positivity.
[5:52] Speaker 6: Right.
[5:52] Speaker 1: Right.
[5:53] Speaker 2: Somebody keeps saying everything is OK.
[5:55] Speaker 1: Like I used to work this one job. where every
[5:57] Speaker 1: day we would come off and somebody would tell us
[5:59] Speaker 1: what a great day we had. And I was like,
[6:00] Speaker 1: there's no way we had a great day every day.
[6:03] Speaker 2: Right. It's not possible. You're lying. This is useless. Like
[6:06] Speaker 2: this is actually becoming counterproductive.
[6:07] Speaker 4: Not every single show is a great show.
[6:08] Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[6:09] Speaker 1: Like this is becoming counterproductive if this is the feeling
[6:12] Speaker 1: that you have about this.
[6:14] Speaker 2: Is Sirianni one of those guys? Like, is that what
[6:16] Speaker 2: it is?
[6:17] Speaker 1: But the tone that he's taking implies, guys, stop lying
[6:22] Speaker 1: to me.
[6:23] Speaker 2: I know what time it is. This ain't it.
[6:26] Speaker 4: Yeah. Last game, he had two catches for 13 yards
[6:30] Speaker 4: in the first half and had less in the second half.
[6:34] Speaker 4: He had less targets.
[6:35] Speaker 8: Yes.
[6:36] Speaker 1: And I mean, look, man, I was watching some TV
[6:40] Speaker 1: and they made a very good point that Nick Sirianni
[6:42] Speaker 1: didn't get enough trouble. for what a disaster it looked
[6:44] Speaker 1: like that team was going to be early in 2024,
[6:47] Speaker 1: and for riding the ship and getting everything okay.
[6:51] Speaker 6: Right?
[6:51] Speaker 2: Right.
[6:51] Speaker 4: They were 2-2. He's screaming at fans in Cleveland.
[6:54] Speaker 2: Correct.
[6:55] Speaker 6: Correct.
[6:55] Speaker 4: And shows up with a shaved head. Correct.
[6:58] Speaker 2: It didn't. But did he fix stuff, or did they
[7:01] Speaker 2: just start winning?
[7:03] Speaker 6: Right.
[7:03] Speaker 2: You know?
[7:04] Speaker 1: And so the point is, where A.J. Brown's talking about
[7:06] Speaker 1: we can't just keep throwing the Band-Aid over it. In
[7:10] Speaker 1: a way, winning is the Band-Aid, right? It's just like, hey,
[7:13] Speaker 1: it doesn't matter as long as we're winning. That's a
[7:18] Speaker 1: tricky situation. But now they're going to play this game
[7:20] Speaker 1: on Sunday night against America's team, the Detroit Lions. And
[7:24] Speaker 1: I do believe that they have to go to Detroit
[7:27] Speaker 1: to play this game. And look, this is two teams. Oh,
[7:32] Speaker 1: so no, they're going to get this game at home.
[7:34] Speaker 5: Okay. Okay.
[7:36] Speaker 1: So, Ryan, what I was about to say, I have
[7:38] Speaker 1: to take off the table, but now it makes for
[7:39] Speaker 1: what I think is perhaps a more interesting set of points.
[7:42] Speaker 4: What you got?
[7:43] Speaker 2: OK, so my thought was, hey, you got to go
[7:45] Speaker 2: play on the road.
[7:46] Speaker 1: It's going to be loud in there. That could be
[7:48] Speaker 1: extra tricky. Counterpoint on this is you get the game
[7:51] Speaker 1: at home.
[7:52] Speaker 4: Where it might be louder and trickier.
[7:54] Speaker 1: Here we go. Like if this offense does not get going. Hey, man,
[7:59] Speaker 1: Eagles fans know he's right. Right. That's a fan base
[8:03] Speaker 1: that's not falling for the just because we're winning. Certainly
[8:06] Speaker 1: happier for winning, but they're not falling for that. If
[8:08] Speaker 1: that offense comes out there looking sluggish, it's going to
[8:12] Speaker 1: be a thing.
[8:13] Speaker 2: I actually need to take.
[8:14] Speaker 1: A greater survey of Eagles fans to see do they
[8:16] Speaker 1: love A.J. Brown for this or hate A.J. Brown for
[8:18] Speaker 1: this because if I was an Eagles fan, he would
[8:20] Speaker 1: become my favorite player. He's my favorite player right now
[8:23] Speaker 1: and I root for the Lions.
[8:24] Speaker 4: Right. I appreciate anyone who is that Consistently honest. Say
[8:33] Speaker 4: what you want about Adrian. Man stays on message. Yes.
[8:35] Speaker 4: He wants the ball and he wants the offense to
[8:37] Speaker 4: be better. And he's clearly right.
[8:41] Speaker 2: And he hasn't said anything rude.
[8:42] Speaker 4: Right.
[8:43] Speaker 2: Right? Like, he hasn't come... He hasn't taken all.
[8:45] Speaker 4: It's not personal. It's not... He's not like... Remember when
[8:50] Speaker 4: Micah Parsons said on his pod, he listed the top
[8:52] Speaker 4: five quarterbacks and.
[8:53] Speaker 2: He did list Prescott.
[8:54] Speaker 4: Yeah. Like, he's never saying... anyone's not doing a good job,
[8:58] Speaker 4: he's saying we're not doing a good job.
[9:00] Speaker 6: Yes.
[9:01] Speaker 4: He is saying we're not doing a good enough job
[9:03] Speaker 4: getting me the ball.
[9:05] Speaker 8: Yes.
[9:05] Speaker 4: But he's not saying certain people aren't doing enough.
[9:08] Speaker 1: Well, the other part is they are not doing a
[9:11] Speaker 1: good enough job of getting him the ball.
[9:13] Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't think that's in dispute.
[9:16] Speaker 1: Everybody agrees with everything that he's saying, and I'm just
[9:19] Speaker 1: trying to figure out what the head coach is doing.
[9:21] Speaker 2: If that's how he feels.
[9:23] Speaker 1: Of course, the way this season is gone, that means
[9:26] Speaker 1: that the Eagles are going to win this game but
[9:28] Speaker 1: not cover the spread, and the spread is two and
[9:30] Speaker 1: a half, and their record is just going to keep
[9:32] Speaker 1: getting better. Is it going to be like it was
[9:34] Speaker 1: with the Chiefs last year, where we wound up in
[9:37] Speaker 1: this very similar situation?
[9:40] Speaker 2: Right.
[9:40] Speaker 4: I mean, like, but the Chiefs last year, they didn't
[9:44] Speaker 4: seem as frustrated. Like, there was no one sounding the alarms.
[9:50] Speaker 4: And maybe that's just Philadelphia, right? That's just kind of
[9:52] Speaker 4: the culture of the place.
[9:53] Speaker 2: Well, I think it's two years in a row it is, Schaefer.
[9:56] Speaker 4: That's true, yeah.
[9:57] Speaker 1: As it relates to him, I think, or maybe the
[9:59] Speaker 1: Chiefs have. greater track record there, or maybe AJ Brown
[10:02] Speaker 1: just go harder.
[10:03] Speaker 4: Right. Yeah.
[10:04] Speaker 2: Maybe, maybe he is just more of a perfectionist.
[10:06] Speaker 6: Yes.
[10:07] Speaker 1: Maybe he insists a little bit more, but the other
[10:10] Speaker 1: thing with the Eagles is this, they're not playing for
[10:12] Speaker 1: the division, man.
[10:12] Speaker 2: They're going to win that.
[10:13] Speaker 1: They're surrounded by bums in that division. Um, They are, however,
[10:19] Speaker 1: low key. And I don't think we're talking about this
[10:21] Speaker 1: part nearly enough. They are absolutely playing for the number
[10:25] Speaker 1: one seed in that conference because everybody else is going
[10:28] Speaker 1: to beat up on each other in the division by
[10:30] Speaker 1: and large, except for Tampa Bay.
[10:31] Speaker 2: But I just don't think they're that good. But there
[10:34] Speaker 2: look to.
[10:34] Speaker 1: Be perhaps four good teams in the north. There appear
[10:37] Speaker 1: to be three good teams.
[10:39] Speaker 2: In the west.
[10:40] Speaker 4: Right.
[10:40] Speaker 1: So they're all going to pound each other. And the
[10:43] Speaker 1: Eagles get to play a season with two games. against
[10:47] Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Commanders, and Giants.
[10:50] Speaker 4: Make a wish.
[10:52] Speaker 6: They do.
[10:53] Speaker 2: Oh, my God, the Commanders.
[10:54] Speaker 4: The Commanders.
[10:55] Speaker 1: Hey, man, the Commanders and the Cowboys play on Christmas,
[11:01] Speaker 1: and the name of that game should be The Spirit
[11:03] Speaker 1: of Giving. Like the, it is amazing how bad the
[11:08] Speaker 1: commander's defense is. So, you know, my man, Dan Campbell
[11:10] Speaker 1: took over play calling for the lions. He said he
[11:13] Speaker 1: wanted to, he wanted to show John Morton the way
[11:16] Speaker 1: he wanted a game to be called, which I think
[11:18] Speaker 1: is a fair thing to do here.
[11:21] Speaker 6: Right.
[11:21] Speaker 1: I also think Dan Campbell every now and then needs
[11:23] Speaker 1: to remind people that it's a brain up here.
[11:26] Speaker 4: Some people like to drive the car. They don't have
[11:28] Speaker 4: to drive. Some people don't have to, they don't have
[11:29] Speaker 4: to drive every day, but some people, you know, they
[11:31] Speaker 4: like to show they still got it.
[11:32] Speaker 1: But he also has to get tired of people thinking
[11:34] Speaker 1: that he's not a thinker. And this is his opportunity
[11:37] Speaker 1: to do so.
[11:37] Speaker 2: But anyway, a.
[11:40] Speaker 1: Friend of the program, I don't know if that person
[11:42] Speaker 1: has said this in public, so I want to be
[11:44] Speaker 1: careful putting their name on it. But they're like, nah,
[11:46] Speaker 1: I see through what Dan did. And that actually, no,
[11:50] Speaker 1: it was Mina. And she did send it on social.
[11:52] Speaker 1: She saw through what Dan Campbell did.
[11:55] Speaker 4: Oh, he picked up the Madden sticks, but he played
[11:58] Speaker 4: it on Rookie?
[11:58] Speaker 2: Yes, he did. That is exactly.
[12:02] Speaker 1: But however, to be fair to Dan Campbell, If you
[12:05] Speaker 1: want to show how you want it to be done.
[12:06] Speaker 5: Correct.
[12:07] Speaker 2: This is the best way to go about showing how
[12:10] Speaker 2: you want it to be done. Like, did he do
[12:12] Speaker 2: it to show everybody how good he was?
[12:15] Speaker 6: Maybe.
[12:16] Speaker 1: But if it was intended to be instructional, that was
[12:18] Speaker 1: the perfect time. Anyway, they're going to play against each other,
[12:21] Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Commanders on Christmas.
[12:24] Speaker 2: And it's just going to look. Russell Wilson looked like
[12:28] Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. Against the Cowboys.
[12:32] Speaker 4: Also, that might be Marcus Mariota versus Joe Milton.
[12:37] Speaker 1: And it'll look like Joe Montana versus Dan Marino. It's
[12:43] Speaker 1: just going to be up and down, up and down.
[12:47] Speaker 1: That's what it's going to be. But this is a
[12:50] Speaker 1: great week of football, man. We got the Seahawks and
[12:53] Speaker 1: the Rams who might be, honest to God, the best
[12:56] Speaker 1: two teams in the NFC.
[12:57] Speaker 2: Some might argue the best two teams.
[13:00] Speaker 1: In the league, the Bears, who've got this thing rolling,
[13:03] Speaker 1: but Caleb Williams against Brian Flores, hey, hey, hey, that could,
[13:08] Speaker 1: you know, that could get ugly fast. The Bills, are
[13:11] Speaker 1: the Bills any must-win against Tampa Bay?
[13:16] Speaker 4: That's a great... white loyalty quarterback game between Josh Allen
[13:21] Speaker 4: and Baker Mayfield.
[13:22] Speaker 1: Yeah, there's going to be a lot of people unsure
[13:24] Speaker 1: of exactly who it is that they should be rooting
[13:27] Speaker 1: for or against in the course of this. But with
[13:29] Speaker 1: the Patriots being an actual factual football team and they
[13:33] Speaker 1: get to play the Jets on Thursday night at home,
[13:36] Speaker 1: so I presume they are going to be 9-2 going
[13:39] Speaker 1: into that game. If the Bills go down to 6-4,
[13:42] Speaker 1: they're playing the playoffs on the road. They're going to
[13:46] Speaker 1: have to go into other people's houses. And they've stacked
[13:48] Speaker 1: up a really good playoff record by feasting in large
[13:52] Speaker 1: part on the expansion of the playoffs to seven teams
[13:54] Speaker 1: because they are getting home games often against a team
[13:57] Speaker 1: that had no business being in the playoffs. And I
[14:00] Speaker 1: will throw this out here. And we've kind of lost
[14:02] Speaker 1: track of this. If the Bills really come up disappointing
[14:06] Speaker 1: this year, right? Let's say the Bills are a wildcard team.
[14:09] Speaker 1: Let's say the Bills lose in the first round. Ryan,
[14:16] Speaker 1: Sean McDermott's getting fired, right?
[14:17] Speaker 4: Getting him out of there.
[14:19] Speaker 2: Like, I think we forgot about the story.
[14:22] Speaker 4: The story.
[14:23] Speaker 2: The thorough, thorough.
[14:25] Speaker 5: Well-reported.
[14:26] Speaker 2: Thorough reporting.
[14:27] Speaker 4: Never disputed.
[14:28] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
[14:29] Speaker 1: The Tyler Duds run up and down. And I say
[14:31] Speaker 1: this every time I talk about him. His newsletter is
[14:33] Speaker 1: a magazine, man.
[14:34] Speaker 2: Like it's, it's legit.
[14:35] Speaker 1: Like it's legitimately stunning that it's, it's, it ain't just,
[14:38] Speaker 1: I put some stuff.
[14:39] Speaker 2: Out here on Substack.
[14:40] Speaker 6: Right.
[14:40] Speaker 2: Right.
[14:41] Speaker 1: But he ran through it with McDermott and a, I
[14:44] Speaker 1: thought a reason case for why he was what held
[14:46] Speaker 1: Buffalo back. Now I think what holds Buffalo back as
[14:49] Speaker 1: much as anything else is Josh Allen's just being as
[14:51] Speaker 1: he's Atlas, right? He just got the world on his shoulders.
[14:55] Speaker 1: But if they don't get it done, he's been there
[14:57] Speaker 1: a long time. My buddy, Nick makes the point. I
[14:59] Speaker 1: think that no quarterback and coach have been together for
[15:02] Speaker 1: this long ever without going to a Super Bowl.
[15:05] Speaker 4: Right. And usually you go, I think if you don't,
[15:08] Speaker 4: the sad is if you don't win in the first
[15:10] Speaker 4: five years.
[15:11] Speaker 5: Yes.
[15:11] Speaker 4: With your coach and your quarterback together, you're not, you don't.
[15:14] Speaker 2: McDermott's had this job for eight years. This is year nine. Right.
[15:19] Speaker 2: Like it's easy to lose sight of that. Now look,
[15:22] Speaker 2: it's the.
[15:23] Speaker 1: 20 years prior to this were much different, right? They
[15:27] Speaker 1: missed the playoffs 19 years in a row. OK, it's
[15:31] Speaker 1: been an uptick, but if they lose this game, they've
[15:35] Speaker 1: got giant problems. I think if this goes, we got
[15:40] Speaker 1: any more like I feel like we got 49ers Cardinals
[15:43] Speaker 1: 49ers might lose that game, by the way. Ravens Browns,
[15:47] Speaker 1: the Browns do sneak up on people every now and then. Oh,
[15:50] Speaker 1: I forgot Chiefs Broncos. And where are those Broncos fans now?
[15:54] Speaker 5: Right.
[15:55] Speaker 2: When it comes to Bo Nix.
[15:56] Speaker 4: Give me interesting to say.
[15:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't know if you.
[15:59] Speaker 1: Saw this, but apparently Colin Coward has said publicly that
[16:02] Speaker 1: don't be surprised if Peyton wants to move on from
[16:05] Speaker 1: Bo Nix and Colin and Peyton are cool.
[16:08] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[16:09] Speaker 2: But isn't this just year two for Bo Nix?
[16:11] Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but if you didn't... I mean, you
[16:14] Speaker 4: also played eight years in college.
[16:16] Speaker 2: He did.
[16:18] Speaker 1: How you feel about Bo Nix and his potential really
[16:21] Speaker 1: has a lot to do with how much college football
[16:23] Speaker 1: you watch.
[16:23] Speaker 5: Correct.
[16:23] Speaker 2: Like overall.
[16:24] Speaker 4: And what point you watched it.
[16:26] Speaker 2: Correct.
[16:26] Speaker 1: Because if all you got was the Oregon, even Oregon
[16:29] Speaker 1: was a pretty clear fake out. But if you saw
[16:31] Speaker 1: Auburn Bo Nix, he's supposed to be a college quarterback.
[16:34] Speaker 1: You know what he's supposed to be like?
[16:35] Speaker 2: Major Applewhite?
[16:37] Speaker 3: No, no.
[16:37] Speaker 2: More like Chad Kelly.
[16:39] Speaker 4: Got it.
[16:39] Speaker 1: Major Applewhite, very similar in the sense that a college
[16:42] Speaker 1: quarterback that we remember and talk about.
[16:44] Speaker 2: But Bo Nix was an experience. Chad Kelly was an experience, right?
[16:50] Speaker 4: Where it's like, Oh, there's no, Steven Garcia was an experience.
[16:53] Speaker 2: Yes.
[16:53] Speaker 3: Yes.
[16:54] Speaker 2: Jordan Jefferson was an experience, right? That's the, how did
[16:59] Speaker 2: he get taken in the top 15 of the draft?
[17:02] Speaker 6: Right.
[17:03] Speaker 4: Like I remember Bo Nix in Auburn and seeing him.
[17:05] Speaker 4: I was like, wow, he's going to be really good
[17:08] Speaker 4: at radio or someone's quarterback coach by this point. The
[17:14] Speaker 4: idea that he would be an actual factual NFL starter
[17:17] Speaker 4: and then an actual factual NFL first round pick. I
[17:20] Speaker 4: never considered.
[17:21] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[17:21] Speaker 1: Like he couldn't even be selling cars. He should be
[17:23] Speaker 1: selling ATVs. Something, something a little bit more exciting. Right.
[17:27] Speaker 4: Right.
[17:28] Speaker 1: Like something, something that gets your blood pressure up just
[17:31] Speaker 1: a little bit, but they're.
[17:33] Speaker 2: Eight and two.
[17:34] Speaker 4: Somehow, some way.
[17:35] Speaker 1: Now, if the chiefs, this is a road game and
[17:37] Speaker 1: it's a division. So like thought it was possibly better. Oh,
[17:40] Speaker 1: if the chiefs lose this game, now I do think
[17:42] Speaker 1: they are in trouble.
[17:44] Speaker 3: Right.
[17:44] Speaker 1: Cause you got to come back and you got to
[17:45] Speaker 1: win the games to get up there. Right.
[17:47] Speaker 2: They are, they, they are right now.
[17:50] Speaker 1: On the outside looking again, which is something that none
[17:52] Speaker 1: of us really take seriously.
[17:55] Speaker 6: Right.
[17:55] Speaker 1: But one more loss, you kind of need to win
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[19:08] Speaker 2: All right, NBA. I fired up the league pass on
[19:13] Speaker 2: Wednesday night, watching some basketball.
[19:16] Speaker 1: I was watching the Warriors and the Spurs, and we
[19:20] Speaker 1: had talked about how things were getting a little dicey
[19:22] Speaker 1: for the Warriors. right I don't know how much of
[19:25] Speaker 1: that game that you got to see uh the Warriors
[19:28] Speaker 1: won the game because it was a Jimmy and Steph
[19:31] Speaker 1: run shit kind of game where Steph Curry had what
[19:34] Speaker 1: is it 46 points I want to say in that
[19:35] Speaker 1: game but there were long stretches of him off the
[19:38] Speaker 1: floor and Jimmy doing that Jimmy thing where I just
[19:41] Speaker 1: carry everything this is immediately after you know the the
[19:45] Speaker 1: heat on what exactly does Jimmy do We're starting to
[19:47] Speaker 1: come up.
[19:48] Speaker 4: Right.
[19:49] Speaker 2: And it was like, no, you can have long stretches
[19:50] Speaker 2: for stuff. Doesn't play.
[19:52] Speaker 1: Cause if nothing else, whether it goes exactly how you
[19:54] Speaker 1: want or not, this guy is going to do that.
[19:57] Speaker 4: He's got it. Whether or not it goes well as
[19:59] Speaker 4: to be seen, but he is certainly a, yeah. Let
[20:01] Speaker 4: me even talk about someone sneaky, old.
[20:04] Speaker 2: Sneaky, old, him, Draymond, um, Steph, um, Yeah, they're sneaky old.
[20:10] Speaker 1: Speaking of sneaky old Draymond, Draymond was out there trying
[20:14] Speaker 1: to guard Victor. First of all, I don't know how much,
[20:16] Speaker 1: like the Victor highlights are one thing. You got to
[20:19] Speaker 1: watch the whole game, man. Like he's the only guy
[20:23] Speaker 1: I've ever seen that can guard. So if it's two
[20:25] Speaker 1: on one break, right? You're at once trying to guard
[20:28] Speaker 1: the ball in the basket and you're trying to stop
[20:31] Speaker 1: before you have to commit to one or the other
[20:34] Speaker 1: on defense.
[20:35] Speaker 2: He can guard both.
[20:37] Speaker 1: Correct.
[20:37] Speaker 2: All the time.
[20:38] Speaker 4: He blocked a three-pointer with his foot in the paint.
[20:42] Speaker 2: He did. He did.
[20:44] Speaker 1: And by the way, I love that it was Draymond
[20:45] Speaker 1: Green that even tried. Because Jimmy Butler looked like me
[20:48] Speaker 1: playing against my brother when I was growing up. And understand,
[20:51] Speaker 1: my brother's 13 years older than me.
[20:54] Speaker 9: So it was probably a similar height difference. Yeah, he's not.
[20:57] Speaker 9: Jimmy Butler's 6'8. He's not putting this up like anywhere
[21:02] Speaker 9: near him. Get into the basket, dribble it right back out.
[21:06] Speaker 9: We're not doing this. Draymond's trying to guard him. Ryan,
[21:09] Speaker 9: he's dream shaking and shooting lefty hooks in the paint.
[21:13] Speaker 2: He didn't make it. But the fact that that was
[21:15] Speaker 2: even on the board, like how smoothly he's getting these
[21:19] Speaker 2: shots up at these. I don't know who's supposed to
[21:21] Speaker 2: guard him. The Spurs.
[21:23] Speaker 1: The Spurs are going to be a top three seed,
[21:25] Speaker 1: I think, in the West. I don't know how far
[21:27] Speaker 1: they're going to go because they are so young. And
[21:30] Speaker 1: shout out to that dude, Cisco. We talked about that
[21:32] Speaker 1: the other day. He's finally gotten his ass in line. And,
[21:36] Speaker 1: you know, somebody had to grab the back of his
[21:38] Speaker 1: neck to make them listen to them.
[21:40] Speaker 2: And he finally has chilled out with his behavior.
[21:43] Speaker 4: And he got a lot of guards. It's a lot
[21:45] Speaker 4: of Fox, Harper, and Castle.
[21:47] Speaker 2: Well, that's the other part, too, is they was running
[21:49] Speaker 2: Cisco at the point.
[21:50] Speaker 4: Right, right.
[21:51] Speaker 1: Greg Hopovich is a great coach. I do not think
[21:53] Speaker 1: they did a great job down the stretch there. This dude, Mitch,
[21:57] Speaker 1: the new coach, they seem to be playing better ball
[22:01] Speaker 1: in this regard. But the Warriors still came in and
[22:05] Speaker 1: got that. Like, we're going to see what ultimately happens
[22:08] Speaker 1: with them. But it seems pretty clear up through this
[22:11] Speaker 1: point in the NBA season. To me, the West, Oklahoma
[22:16] Speaker 1: City and Denver. By the way, Jokic put up.
[22:20] Speaker 2: I'm sorry. The guy that ain't no better than Drew.
[22:25] Speaker 1: Holiday put up an easy 55 on the Clippers.
[22:30] Speaker 2: An easy 55.
[22:31] Speaker 1: Ryan, I need to chill because I'm feeling like white
[22:34] Speaker 1: folks now where I ain't never going to let you
[22:36] Speaker 1: forget that you did that one thing ever wrong ever
[22:39] Speaker 1: in your life. No sirree, Bob. How dare you disrespect
[22:42] Speaker 1: this Caucasian hero? But on the real, how dare he?
[22:46] Speaker 4: People are going to start having some pretty crazy conversations
[22:49] Speaker 4: about Jokic if he wins another MVP. There's going to
[22:53] Speaker 4: start being Yogurt LeBron stuff. I'm just saying.
[23:01] Speaker 2: But here's where it becomes tricky.
[23:03] Speaker 5: Right.
[23:04] Speaker 2: The question becomes, why not?
[23:08] Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm not saying it's unfounded.
[23:10] Speaker 5: Yeah, now, a.
[23:10] Speaker 2: Championship would help.
[23:12] Speaker 1: Now, what's going to be interesting and I think helpful
[23:14] Speaker 1: for LeBron in terms of historical legacy is putting up
[23:18] Speaker 1: four championships the way that he did, the way that
[23:20] Speaker 1: Steph did.
[23:21] Speaker 2: I think that's going to be a lot harder now.
[23:23] Speaker 4: Almost impossible.
[23:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, the era of runs of championships. So you think
[23:27] Speaker 1: about it, for example, the 1980s, three teams won championships
[23:32] Speaker 1: in the 1980s. I mean, the Lakers, the Celtics... The
[23:36] Speaker 1: Pistons and the Sixers, right.
[23:37] Speaker 2: It was four. But you got to.
[23:41] Speaker 1: A point where the Lakers won two in a row.
[23:43] Speaker 1: The Pistons won two in a row. The Bulls won
[23:46] Speaker 1: three in a row. The Rockets won two in a row.
[23:48] Speaker 1: The Bulls won three in a row. The Spurs won one.
[23:51] Speaker 1: The Lakers won three. The Spurs won one. But you
[23:55] Speaker 1: see how this run goes.
[23:58] Speaker 4: The Bulls won six in eight years. The Lakers won
[24:00] Speaker 4: like five in 11 or something like that.
[24:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was these long stretches with LeBron in
[24:05] Speaker 1: the heat and LeBron making the finals eight straight years,
[24:08] Speaker 1: for example. I don't think that's going to be something
[24:11] Speaker 1: that you could do. The 1970s were similar to this
[24:13] Speaker 1: where you did not have repeat champions. The Celtics won
[24:16] Speaker 1: two in the decade. The Knicks won two. Then otherwise,
[24:19] Speaker 1: you just got a lot of mixing and matching that's
[24:21] Speaker 1: going on. But Especially as the advanced numbers become a
[24:25] Speaker 1: bigger thing and the fact that I don't think Jokic
[24:27] Speaker 1: is going to play 23 years, but I think he
[24:29] Speaker 1: has a game that's going to be conducive to a
[24:31] Speaker 1: similar level of longevity to what LeBron's game was. Yeah,
[24:37] Speaker 1: if Jokic wins another MVP, those discussions are going to
[24:40] Speaker 1: come up.
[24:41] Speaker 2: Or how about this, Ryan?
[24:42] Speaker 1: Does it become a Jokic-Curry kind of discussion? Does it
[24:47] Speaker 1: become about an individual in that? Or is it just
[24:49] Speaker 1: about putting him in that space?
[24:51] Speaker 4: In that class.
[24:52] Speaker 1: Because the regular season results make it unequivocal that he
[24:55] Speaker 1: is of that level.
[24:57] Speaker 5: Right.
[24:57] Speaker 4: I mean, you're getting the four MVPs, which he's certainly
[25:01] Speaker 4: got to be one of the favorites for. It'll be him, Luka,
[25:04] Speaker 4: and Victor.
[25:05] Speaker 6: Yes.
[25:05] Speaker 4: And SGA probably running that as the four leading candidates.
[25:10] Speaker 5: Yes.
[25:11] Speaker 4: And people are going to start looking back at the
[25:13] Speaker 4: Joel Embiid MVP like the Steve Nash MVPs.
[25:17] Speaker 10: It is.
[25:18] Speaker 2: I mean, I do that. The Derrick Rose MVP is
[25:24] Speaker 2: not the exact same.
[25:25] Speaker 4: But it's in the same conversation.
[25:27] Speaker 5: You know what?
[25:27] Speaker 1: The Derrick Rose MVP, the more I think about it,
[25:30] Speaker 1: is kind of in the same lane as the Charles
[25:31] Speaker 1: Barkley MVP, which is.
[25:34] Speaker 2: A legitimate MVP, right?
[25:38] Speaker 1: But yeah, no, this is, by the way, I watched
[25:41] Speaker 1: the Thunders slap the taste out of the Lakers' mouths
[25:44] Speaker 1: on Wednesday night.
[25:45] Speaker 2: Jalen Williams isn't even playing, man.
[25:48] Speaker 3: Right.
[25:48] Speaker 1: Like, this is the thing about them. There's no reason
[25:51] Speaker 1: to believe that they've even come close to peaking as
[25:53] Speaker 1: to what they could be because the whole team is
[25:55] Speaker 1: 17 years old.
[25:58] Speaker 4: And if the season ended right now, they'd have two
[26:00] Speaker 4: top 10 picks.
[26:01] Speaker 2: And they have a zillion. What are you even supposed
[26:05] Speaker 2: to do? Like, if you're Presti, what are we supposed
[26:08] Speaker 2: to do with this team? We've got these picks. What
[26:11] Speaker 2: do I do?
[26:12] Speaker 1: Trade them and try to get Giannis? They have enough
[26:16] Speaker 1: stuff to get Giannis in and not really hurt. They
[26:19] Speaker 1: got a bunch of picks they don't really need.
[26:21] Speaker 4: They can trade for Giannis and not give up Chet, Jalen,
[26:25] Speaker 4: or SGA. I mean, obviously, you get into the cap
[26:27] Speaker 4: and the hard cap and all that stuff. Maybe not
[26:30] Speaker 4: the salaries, but before the second apron era of the NBA,
[26:33] Speaker 4: they have enough They could probably make the best offer.
[26:37] Speaker 4: It's them or Houston.
[26:38] Speaker 2: There's nothing that they can't do.
[26:41] Speaker 1: Like I don't, this, and I know we say this
[26:45] Speaker 1: just about every time a team wins a championship, but
[26:47] Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever had a championship team this
[26:48] Speaker 1: young where everybody just feels this young. There's another wave
[26:53] Speaker 1: of guys that's on the way.
[26:55] Speaker 2: To come up.
[26:55] Speaker 1: I don't, it's going to be tough for everybody. And
[27:00] Speaker 1: the Spurs, like I said, I think the Spurs are
[27:02] Speaker 1: going to be up there by the end of the year,
[27:04] Speaker 1: just because they look, they look really talented, man. They
[27:07] Speaker 1: got guards. They've got this, whatever you want to call them.
[27:11] Speaker 1: They're going to be up there. I watched some of
[27:13] Speaker 1: the Pistons last night, but then I found out that
[27:16] Speaker 1: they good players like Cade wasn't playing.
[27:19] Speaker 2: Just like, and I ain't really getting into this.
[27:21] Speaker 1: The East looks, the East looks like a bunch of
[27:25] Speaker 1: teams that should be very happy to get to the finals.
[27:29] Speaker 1: But with that in mind, the best story this year
[27:33] Speaker 1: to me, and I mean best in terms of it's
[27:35] Speaker 1: somewhat entertaining and I think it's actually kind of fascinating
[27:38] Speaker 1: as a topic of discussion is whatever is going on
[27:41] Speaker 1: with Memphis where John Morant is clearly done with this.
[27:47] Speaker 2: Clearly.
[27:49] Speaker 1: I said, and you could go look at it, I'm
[27:52] Speaker 1: sure we put out short videos of it and people
[27:54] Speaker 1: said I was crazy, but I said when they made
[27:57] Speaker 1: that move and they traded Desmond Bain to the Magic,
[28:02] Speaker 1: that the next play is to trade John Morant. Because
[28:07] Speaker 1: it's not so much that they traded Bain, it's that
[28:09] Speaker 1: they traded Bain for a bunch of picks, which means
[28:13] Speaker 1: that you made a trade that was not intended to
[28:15] Speaker 1: make your team better in the short run. And if
[28:17] Speaker 1: you're making trades with a player of the stature of
[28:22] Speaker 1: John Morant, and you also have Jaron Jackson, and you're
[28:25] Speaker 1: not trying to get better, then... Are you tearing this down?
[28:29] Speaker 1: That's the kind of move that you make when you're
[28:31] Speaker 1: about to tear a team down. Let me tell you
[28:33] Speaker 1: something about Jaron Jackson that I did not fully realize.
[28:37] Speaker 1: It's one of those things that is obvious when you
[28:39] Speaker 1: watch his game, but until you look at the numbers,
[28:42] Speaker 1: you don't really realize this. And I just don't understand
[28:45] Speaker 1: how this is possible. Jaron Jackson, for those of you
[28:49] Speaker 1: who are unfamiliar, is listed at 6'10. He has never
[28:55] Speaker 1: averaged seven rebounds a game and has only had one
[28:58] Speaker 1: season averaging six rebounds a game. Ryan, how is that possible?
[29:02] Speaker 4: That is a, I hate to be this person, but
[29:04] Speaker 4: that's a, we used to be a proper country. It is.
[29:07] Speaker 2: I don't see how this is possible.
[29:09] Speaker 6: Right.
[29:09] Speaker 2: I don't.
[29:10] Speaker 4: Right.
[29:10] Speaker 2: But John doesn't like what the team is doing.
[29:15] Speaker 1: It's fair to ask physically how much John Morant has left.
[29:19] Speaker 4: Right.
[29:20] Speaker 2: And he's clearly not trying very hard.
[29:24] Speaker 1: Which him not trying very hard jumps out, especially because
[29:29] Speaker 1: of what the strategy is that they're doing. So the
[29:32] Speaker 1: Grizzlies got this new coach. Let me read this off
[29:34] Speaker 1: the page. because I ain't heard nobody say his name,
[29:36] Speaker 1: but his name seems to be Thomas Isalo.
[29:40] Speaker 2: He from Europe. I know he worked over there in Finland.
[29:44] Speaker 1: He's got this idea of how he wants to play,
[29:47] Speaker 1: where he wants to have guys out there and play
[29:51] Speaker 1: as hard as they can, three or four minutes at
[29:56] Speaker 1: a time. And then kind of run line shifts to
[30:00] Speaker 1: get the guys out of there. Which, like to me,
[30:04] Speaker 1: if you're going to do that, you might as well
[30:05] Speaker 1: be running like 40 minutes of hell full court press.
[30:08] Speaker 2: Like that feels like very much a college approach.
[30:12] Speaker 1: Apparently there were some tough times with it in Europe
[30:15] Speaker 1: when he did it, but it ultimately worked. It is
[30:18] Speaker 1: counter to the conventional wisdom of NBA basketball. which is
[30:22] Speaker 1: to keep your best players on the floor as much
[30:23] Speaker 1: as you possibly can. He would not be the first
[30:26] Speaker 1: coach to try to play like 10 guys as your rotation.
[30:32] Speaker 1: QB Brown, this was his standard operating procedure.
[30:37] Speaker 4: Steve Kerr famously likes to almost play everyone on his bench.
[30:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, he tries, right? But when it's time to really
[30:43] Speaker 2: do something.
[30:44] Speaker 4: Correct.
[30:45] Speaker 1: None of these guys actually do that when it's time
[30:47] Speaker 1: to win. And so a guy like John Morant, yeah,
[30:50] Speaker 1: is going to push back. as something like this. Like,
[30:54] Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody's right in this situation, right?
[30:57] Speaker 1: Like this isn't one of those where I think that
[30:59] Speaker 1: nobody is wrong. I don't think that this is an
[31:01] Speaker 1: approach that can work for running an NBA team. And
[31:04] Speaker 1: I don't think that John Morant is, I don't think
[31:07] Speaker 1: he is comporting himself in a fashion befitting of an adult.
[31:12] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[31:13] Speaker 1: Like, nah, man, if this is what we doing, man,
[31:16] Speaker 1: get out here and play.
[31:17] Speaker 2: This is the way that I look at these things.
[31:19] Speaker 1: Um, but they're going to have to figure something out
[31:22] Speaker 1: because you don't have a lot of stories about guys
[31:24] Speaker 1: coming out here and acting like that.
[31:26] Speaker 2: And then suddenly coming around.
[31:28] Speaker 1: I don't think that the head coach is going to
[31:30] Speaker 1: be able to win him over if it is already
[31:32] Speaker 1: reached this point. I don't think anybody's right here, which
[31:37] Speaker 1: means I don't have any idea how to fix this
[31:40] Speaker 1: other than tear the whole thing down.
[31:42] Speaker 2: Here's the thing about tearing the whole thing down.
[31:47] Speaker 1: I hear people make the argument that the reason that
[31:50] Speaker 1: what's happening with the Mavericks is happening because Dumont, the owner,
[31:54] Speaker 1: wants to move the team to Las Vegas because.
[31:56] Speaker 2: They're Vegas people.
[31:57] Speaker 1: And I think that there might be something to the
[31:59] Speaker 1: idea that he wants to move the team to Vegas.
[32:02] Speaker 2: I just.
[32:04] Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I know Adam Silver, but I've met
[32:07] Speaker 1: Adam Silver. We've spoken many times. I've interviewed him multiple times.
[32:11] Speaker 1: He's not a fucking idiot, okay?
[32:13] Speaker 8: And.
[32:14] Speaker 1: Therefore, I don't think he's moving a team out of
[32:16] Speaker 1: Dallas to go to Las Vegas. Don't really see that happening, okay? However,
[32:24] Speaker 1: Memphis is a tough market for the NBA. The team
[32:27] Speaker 1: clearly has a foothold in the city, but I don't
[32:30] Speaker 1: know what the money hitting for there, okay? You tear
[32:34] Speaker 1: it down in a place like Memphis and the people
[32:36] Speaker 1: stop coming and that becomes a team that people try
[32:41] Speaker 1: to move.
[32:41] Speaker 2: To Las Vegas.
[32:44] Speaker 1: Just because of the size of the market that it's in, right?
[32:47] Speaker 2: That's how that sort of thing goes. If people start
[32:50] Speaker 2: talking about tearing.
[32:51] Speaker 1: This team down, I think you start then getting some
[32:54] Speaker 1: whispers of other stuff. But the larger point for me
[33:00] Speaker 1: is not every market can afford to tear things all
[33:03] Speaker 1: the way down to the studs because a lot of
[33:05] Speaker 1: markets don't have enough people who will still come to
[33:07] Speaker 1: games for you to do that and to make this
[33:10] Speaker 1: profitable and to make this worthwhile, right? So I don't
[33:13] Speaker 1: know what it is they're going to do there, but
[33:14] Speaker 1: whatever they're doing right now, they can't keep that up.
[33:16] Speaker 2: That ain't the business.
[33:19] Speaker 8: All right, Bo, like you said earlier, we had to
[33:27] Speaker 8: make a last-minute audible on this show, so we figured
[33:29] Speaker 8: it was a good time to empty out some of
[33:31] Speaker 8: the old voicemails.
[33:32] Speaker 4: Let's take a listen to some.
[33:35] Speaker 3: Hey, Bomani. It's Mike, originally from Rochester, now living in Charlotte,
[33:39] Speaker 3: North Carolina. And I'm just wondering, where is DJ Mike Hitman?
[33:44] Speaker 6: Where is he?
[33:45] Speaker 3: I haven't heard him in a long time. Maybe he's
[33:47] Speaker 3: on one of the other platforms. But just wanted to
[33:50] Speaker 3: see where is the OG, man? Is he doing well?
[33:53] Speaker 3: What's up? Or have I missed something? Can't wait to
[33:56] Speaker 3: hear from you. And also, I miss when you and
[33:59] Speaker 3: Shen will go on about Cam Newton and his yogisms, man.
[34:04] Speaker 3: I still laugh and chuckle about when you're standing on
[34:07] Speaker 3: the pinnacle. Keep doing what you're doing. I'm a longtime
[34:11] Speaker 3: subscriber and best of luck to y'all. Peace.
[34:15] Speaker 1: It is so funny that you mentioned that about Mike,
[34:18] Speaker 1: because I had a moment a couple of weeks ago
[34:20] Speaker 1: where I realized I had not talked to Mike in
[34:22] Speaker 1: a while. Like the last time I saw Mike, I
[34:26] Speaker 1: did a panel at the University of Chicago and and
[34:30] Speaker 1: Mike pulled up to check that out so you know
[34:32] Speaker 1: I love Mike pulling up me and Mike hanging out
[34:34] Speaker 1: at the University of Chicago like I'm up there with
[34:38] Speaker 1: prominent labor economists as the grad school flunk out right
[34:42] Speaker 1: I'm hanging in there and Mike down there Mike got
[34:44] Speaker 1: this clean light blue jacket a yellow.
[34:47] Speaker 2: Tie Mike had the hat and the whole night.
[34:50] Speaker 1: I had Mike in the front row and then that
[34:53] Speaker 1: night it snowed ridiculously it was crazy but anyway I
[34:56] Speaker 1: hadn't talked to Mike in a while and then I
[34:58] Speaker 1: called Mike And Mike did not answer, which never happens.
[35:03] Speaker 1: And then Mike did not call back, which also never happens.
[35:07] Speaker 1: And he called me back one day and I missed it.
[35:10] Speaker 1: And so he called me again. I mean, I called
[35:12] Speaker 1: him again, and he did not call back. And I
[35:15] Speaker 1: got nervous, right? Like, I was like, yo, is everything
[35:18] Speaker 1: okay with Mike? So I had to hit Goff, because
[35:19] Speaker 1: Goff know Chicago. Goff know Mike from up there, completely
[35:23] Speaker 1: separate from us, right? And so Goff hit him, and
[35:26] Speaker 1: Mike hit him back. And we're like, okay, cool.
[35:28] Speaker 2: Man, it turned out Mike was on the Tom Joyner cruise. Right.
[35:33] Speaker 2: So I talked to Mike. Mike calls me back. We
[35:36] Speaker 2: talked for a while. Mike told me that he was
[35:38] Speaker 2: on the town of Jordan Cruz. Mike was riding around
[35:41] Speaker 2: with two Nigerian prayer women is what he called them.
[35:44] Speaker 2: And I attempted to see if they was Nigerian and
[35:46] Speaker 2: they did. He put me on the phone with him.
[35:48] Speaker 1: We was talking about living in Nigeria, where I lived
[35:50] Speaker 1: and like, oh, in the north of the houses.
[35:52] Speaker 2: Yeah. So we were going back and forth. Mike sent
[35:55] Speaker 2: me some pictures of him in a sombrero with the homies.
[35:58] Speaker 2: They was all suited up. I bet Mike was in
[35:59] Speaker 2: a suit even on that cruise, by the way.
[36:03] Speaker 4: You turned me on to something that I, which was
[36:06] Speaker 4: a real treat, which DJ Mike hit man's Instagram.
[36:09] Speaker 3: Yes.
[36:09] Speaker 4: Because I had heard, I had obviously, you know, heard
[36:11] Speaker 4: the legends, but I had not, you know, gotten to put.
[36:14] Speaker 2: You had never seen Mike.
[36:14] Speaker 4: Never seen Mike. And man. Talk about something that lived
[36:18] Speaker 4: up to my expectations.
[36:20] Speaker 1: But you didn't realize that Mike Hitman is cock diesel.
[36:24] Speaker 4: You're also correct.
[36:26] Speaker 2: He told us that one day that by this workout,
[36:29] Speaker 2: we were like, all right, Mike, Mike.
[36:30] Speaker 1: And then he showed us Mike, Mike hit the vapor
[36:33] Speaker 1: rub under his nose before we get out there. Y'all
[36:35] Speaker 1: really want no problems with Mike Hitman. Mike told me
[36:37] Speaker 1: he gonna run for president of Mexico. He said he
[36:40] Speaker 1: was down there talking to the people. He said he
[36:42] Speaker 1: ain't know what they were saying because it was in Spanish,
[36:44] Speaker 1: but he know that they need him.
[36:46] Speaker 6: Sure.
[36:47] Speaker 2: And so, hey, you know, Mike para presidente. So, yeah, no,
[36:51] Speaker 2: Mike's good. Did you ever get in touch with him?
[36:54] Speaker 4: I have not gotten in touch with Mike. I have
[36:55] Speaker 4: to be honest, I'm almost nervous.
[36:59] Speaker 2: It's so easy.
[37:00] Speaker 1: As anybody, there are people who have listened to this
[37:02] Speaker 1: show back when Mike used to give his phone number
[37:04] Speaker 1: all the time, who just called Mike up, and all
[37:07] Speaker 1: you got to say.
[37:07] Speaker 2: Is, you cool with me, no matter who you are.
[37:10] Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it today, but I can put Mike's
[37:12] Speaker 1: phone number on here, and you can just call Mike
[37:14] Speaker 1: when you're in Chicago and say, hey, I'm with Beaumont.
[37:17] Speaker 2: Michael, meet you and show you around. You know, Michael,
[37:20] Speaker 2: come hang out with you.
[37:21] Speaker 1: No, just call, hey, I'm Ryan, I'm Bo's new producer. Bye, y'all,
[37:25] Speaker 1: because we do need more Mike. That was the hardest
[37:28] Speaker 1: thing about changing the show from radio to podcast was
[37:31] Speaker 1: it was much more difficult to get Mike involved because
[37:35] Speaker 1: I'm not sure we have any of these things, if
[37:37] Speaker 1: not for Mike.
[37:38] Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll have to sort that out. And again, the cam-isms.
[37:41] Speaker 4: Talk about something that never disappoints.
[37:43] Speaker 2: Oh, man, I forgot to tell Shannon. I got to
[37:44] Speaker 2: tell Shannon next time he comes on.
[37:45] Speaker 1: We got to we got to roll it back because
[37:47] Speaker 1: what's Shannon was doing that before we started doing the
[37:52] Speaker 1: national show together. So we came when we were doing local.
[37:54] Speaker 1: He wasn't doing it. And then he picked it up.
[37:57] Speaker 1: And so I did not feel comfortable taking it with
[37:59] Speaker 1: me because that's Shannon's right.
[38:01] Speaker 2: But it is great.
[38:02] Speaker 1: Anytime he comes back and we roll those out, especially
[38:05] Speaker 1: not in caves on TV.
[38:06] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, and he's giving the cam-isms at all hours
[38:10] Speaker 4: of the day.
[38:11] Speaker 3: He is.
[38:11] Speaker 4: All right, here's our next one.
[38:14] Speaker 6: Hey, Bo.
[38:15] Speaker 10: This is Landon from Connecticut, and I've been a longtime fan.
[38:20] Speaker 10: You and I are the same age. I turned 45
[38:23] Speaker 10: back in April, and I know you have the same
[38:27] Speaker 10: birthday as Macaulay Culkin, fellow 1980 baby.
[38:29] Speaker 2: Anyway, I got.
[38:33] Speaker 10: Lots of praise I can give to you and all that,
[38:35] Speaker 10: but I just have one question. I remember an interstitial
[38:42] Speaker 10: on PTI, or not PTI, Round the Horn, excuse me,
[38:48] Speaker 10: and where they were talking about putting together a dream
[38:51] Speaker 10: band for a certain amount of money. You know, you
[38:53] Speaker 10: get a budget, you know, $ 1 for this drummer, $ 2
[38:56] Speaker 10: for this drummer, yada, yada, yada. And I remember you saying...
[39:01] Speaker 10: briefly in that commercial time frame prince prince prince prince
[39:06] Speaker 10: yep and the singer van morrison now i already knew
[39:12] Speaker 10: you were a huge prince fan as am i you
[39:14] Speaker 10: know um big time prince fan i got prince questions
[39:18] Speaker 10: galore for you another time but always curious where the
[39:23] Speaker 10: van morrison love came from and i'm you know don't
[39:27] Speaker 10: i heard you talk about bowie a lot but never
[39:29] Speaker 10: much about Van Morrison. Wonder if you can expand on that.
[39:33] Speaker 3: Thanks.
[39:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, man. So, I mean, what happened was very simple.
[39:38] Speaker 2: I started listening to Van Morrison. It was like, Hey man,
[39:42] Speaker 2: my boy can go. Like he's a one of one type.
[39:46] Speaker 2: I find is it's so interesting. I find that his
[39:50] Speaker 2: music is very soul music adjacent, right? Like them Irish cats, man.
[39:57] Speaker 1: Irish popular music always traffics in an interesting space. Now
[40:01] Speaker 1: he doesn't do the fun thing that I prefer, which
[40:03] Speaker 1: is clear out in front Irish accent when.
[40:07] Speaker 2: I wake up, you know, like that. He doesn't quite
[40:10] Speaker 2: give you that, right?
[40:12] Speaker 1: But it's the soul of the music that is so
[40:14] Speaker 1: clear and a really interesting like production style from him
[40:17] Speaker 1: because it is, Very jazz in some ways, but also, again, very,
[40:21] Speaker 1: very Irish folkish. And I'm really just talking about the
[40:24] Speaker 1: 68 to 74 run. But I will tell you.
[40:27] Speaker 5: This, man.
[40:28] Speaker 1: I went to go see Van Morrison at Forest Hills
[40:30] Speaker 1: in 2014. A, that is the whitest thing I have
[40:36] Speaker 1: ever done or been to in my life.
[40:39] Speaker 4: Oh, interesting.
[40:40] Speaker 2: I've never seen fewer people of color in a place.
[40:43] Speaker 4: Can I tell you the whitest concert I've ever been to?
[40:45] Speaker 2: Do tell.
[40:46] Speaker 4: Billy Joel at Madison Square Garden.
[40:48] Speaker 2: I could see that.
[40:49] Speaker 4: I mean, there was, it was single digits.
[40:55] Speaker 2: But what's so.
[40:55] Speaker 1: Interesting about that is, again, neither of them, I believe,
[40:58] Speaker 1: have music that is like people of color or verse.
[41:01] Speaker 1: I don't understand exactly how that goes. But let me
[41:04] Speaker 1: tell you, number two, no performer has ever treated me
[41:09] Speaker 1: as a patron with less respect.
[41:13] Speaker 2: Than Van Morrison. It's never felt more like a transaction.
[41:18] Speaker 2: then that Van Boren's a concert.
[41:19] Speaker 1: He got a band that's set in an arc, so
[41:22] Speaker 1: they don't even play for the crowd. They just play
[41:24] Speaker 1: for each other. He's standing still, and he's singing. The
[41:27] Speaker 1: last song is Gloria, and everybody in the band got
[41:31] Speaker 1: to do a little flourish or whatever, but I ain't
[41:33] Speaker 1: never had nothing quite like this, where that man walked
[41:35] Speaker 1: off the stage, and I went with my brother, and
[41:37] Speaker 1: I looked at him and was like, ain't no encore,
[41:39] Speaker 1: big dog.
[41:40] Speaker 2: We can leave right now.
[41:44] Speaker 4: All right, here's one more.
[41:46] Speaker 6: What's up, Bo?
[41:47] Speaker 5: I'm Ryan from Ryan.
[41:48] Speaker 6: Listening to you and Shannon talk, y'all mentioned the magician.
[41:53] Speaker 6: So I'm at my boy's party in Harlem. He does
[41:57] Speaker 6: his end of summer party every year. And I'm at
[42:00] Speaker 6: the party, you know, mainly when he is a mixed
[42:03] Speaker 6: friend group. Talking to one of the guests there, the
[42:06] Speaker 6: guy's talking, I'm like, yo, how do you know the
[42:08] Speaker 6: host of the party? And he's like, yo, I know him.
[42:12] Speaker 6: We're trying to organize like a fundraiser, charity run thing,
[42:15] Speaker 6: like organized events. So I actually just met him not
[42:18] Speaker 6: too long ago. You know, and that's what I do.
[42:21] Speaker 6: I plan charitable events, usually in the fitness realm. That's
[42:24] Speaker 6: my day job. Well, that's what I'm doing when I'm
[42:27] Speaker 6: not doing magic. You know, I've been doing it for
[42:29] Speaker 6: a few years. And he just talking about his job,
[42:31] Speaker 6: talking about his job. And I cut him off. And
[42:34] Speaker 6: I said, hold on, bro. Did you say you do magic?
[42:37] Speaker 6: And he's like, yeah. Bro, this motherfucker pulled out like
[42:43] Speaker 6: a deck of cards. Starts doing magic tricks. He did
[42:48] Speaker 6: magic for like the next hour. And then he just
[42:51] Speaker 6: said goodnight. He had dinner reservations and he left. And
[42:56] Speaker 6: the crazy thing is about a couple, I told one
[42:58] Speaker 6: of my boys about it, a mutual friend of the host.
[43:01] Speaker 6: And a couple months later, he linked up with that
[43:04] Speaker 6: host somewhere. And that's when my motherfucker was dead and
[43:08] Speaker 6: he did it again.
[43:08] Speaker 5: All right, man.
[43:10] Speaker 6: Enjoy your day, man. Love the show.
[43:14] Speaker 2: I mean... He is acknowledging, though, it was dope, right?
[43:18] Speaker 4: Magic is dope.
[43:19] Speaker 2: Like, I feel like if he did it for a
[43:21] Speaker 2: whole hour.
[43:22] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[43:23] Speaker 4: Do you know how long an hour is? Like, think
[43:27] Speaker 4: about how, like, that is, like, think about stand-up for
[43:30] Speaker 4: an hour or a concert for an hour. But now
[43:32] Speaker 4: this is a non-professional.
[43:34] Speaker 2: Hey, trying to do a podcast for an hour by yourself, right?
[43:40] Speaker 4: And you don't have to do any sleight of hand.
[43:42] Speaker 2: He did that for a full hour. After a certain point,
[43:44] Speaker 2: he's like, excuse me, young lady, what is your name?
[43:46] Speaker 1: Come up here for a second. All right, I'm going
[43:47] Speaker 1: to show you something. Okay, now everybody here. I love
[43:50] Speaker 1: that he's stay ready, right? And every turn, he's ready.
[43:53] Speaker 4: He has his gear with him.
[43:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm going to tell you this, man.
[43:57] Speaker 1: If you have a mastery at what you do and
[44:01] Speaker 1: the confidence to do it, you can own any room.
[44:05] Speaker 2: Forget about just magic. My man, Lyndon. I'm sure Lyndon
[44:08] Speaker 2: is listening to this show right now. Okay, Lyndon.
[44:11] Speaker 1: He's a skinny young man, but he's probably not skinny
[44:13] Speaker 1: anymore because he's a grown man now. But he is
[44:15] Speaker 1: from Kannapolis, North Carolina. He was one of my students
[44:19] Speaker 1: at North Carolina. Got a real strong, thick accent. Really, really,
[44:22] Speaker 1: really smart dude.
[44:23] Speaker 9: Right.
[44:23] Speaker 2: Knows a bunch of things about a bunch of stuff.
[44:24] Speaker 2: And he works in the shoe industry.
[44:26] Speaker 8: Right.
[44:26] Speaker 1: So one day I'm in California. This is about 15
[44:30] Speaker 1: years ago, I guess. I'm in California and I invite
[44:32] Speaker 1: him to hang out with me and a bunch of
[44:34] Speaker 1: my friends from graduate.
[44:35] Speaker 2: School, right?
[44:36] Speaker 1: So it's a wall-to-wall room of black people and Lyndon,
[44:39] Speaker 1: who is not, okay? Like we do not come from
[44:44] Speaker 1: the same places, right? So we are there and I
[44:48] Speaker 1: forget how this came up, but he was talking or
[44:51] Speaker 1: explaining how one would create a knockoff shoot, right? So
[44:57] Speaker 1: if one were to decide, To take a shoe that
[45:00] Speaker 1: is popular and to change it up just enough to
[45:05] Speaker 1: not get sued, but to still look like the shoe
[45:09] Speaker 1: that you hope to emulate.
[45:12] Speaker 2: And he got that confidence, right?
[45:14] Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I will stand in this room full
[45:17] Speaker 1: of people and take off a shoe and give a
[45:19] Speaker 1: demonstration of how to create a knockoff.
[45:21] Speaker 2: And he did. And I watched as we were all engrossed.
[45:26] Speaker 4: That's awesome. It sounds fascinating.
[45:28] Speaker 2: We were not sober. He was. We weren't.
[45:31] Speaker 5: Right?
[45:31] Speaker 2: There was a bit of sobriety in the room.
[45:33] Speaker 1: And he stood up and he just took that off
[45:35] Speaker 1: and was like, okay, I take this and I put
[45:36] Speaker 1: this here.
[45:37] Speaker 2: We do this here. I turn this around. I do
[45:38] Speaker 2: this here. Ta-da! Knock-off shoot.
[45:41] Speaker 4: Right?
[45:42] Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, if you could pull that off
[45:43] Speaker 1: with knock-off shoes, imagine if you knew how to do magic. Like,
[45:48] Speaker 1: I bet you all of them did the... Well, David Copperfield,
[45:52] Speaker 1: wasn't he married to Claudia Schiffer?
[45:55] Speaker 4: I can't say that.
[45:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[45:57] Speaker 1: I bet all the magicians, even them Penn and Teller dudes,
[46:01] Speaker 1: I bet they all got bad ones, man.
[46:03] Speaker 2: They can run a room. You can stand up there
[46:05] Speaker 2: and run a room. I love that anywhere this man go, though,
[46:07] Speaker 2: he got that deck of cards.
[46:09] Speaker 3: He is.
[46:12] Speaker 2: Doing tricks, all of this stuff.
[46:14] Speaker 4: All right, here's our last one.
[46:17] Speaker 5: Bo, long-time listener here. I have a really funny story
[46:21] Speaker 5: about a former pro basketball player and playing in an
[46:26] Speaker 5: intramural league in Parker, Colorado. This former basketball player is
[46:31] Speaker 5: none other than Earl Boykins, a whole 5'5 inches tall.
[46:37] Speaker 5: We were playing in a league, and we finally got
[46:40] Speaker 5: the opportunity to play against his team. A buddy of
[46:44] Speaker 5: mine on my team, and I really hope that he's
[46:46] Speaker 5: a listener of your show. I think he probably is.
[46:49] Speaker 5: pulls up to the game and says, man, Earl's 5'5.
[46:53] Speaker 5: Let me guard his little ass. Let me tell you
[46:56] Speaker 5: that there is a big, big, big, big difference between
[47:00] Speaker 5: a pro basketball player and a dude that has only
[47:03] Speaker 5: played high school. And he guarded Earl, and Earl dropped
[47:06] Speaker 5: probably 45 on us. Earl took it to the rack.
[47:10] Speaker 5: Not a single dude on our team could do anything.
[47:12] Speaker 5: He was shooting from beyond half court like it was
[47:15] Speaker 5: a regular three-pointer. I think we probably lost by 30
[47:19] Speaker 5: or 40, and they had to call the game early.
[47:21] Speaker 5: I've never seen anything like it, and I've never played
[47:23] Speaker 5: against somebody as talented as him. And all you have
[47:25] Speaker 5: to remind yourself in this situation is he's 5'5 and
[47:29] Speaker 5: played in the NBA. He had to be really good
[47:32] Speaker 5: to be 5'5 playing in the NBA. Love listening to
[47:35] Speaker 5: the show, man, and been wanting to tell this story
[47:38] Speaker 5: for a while.
[47:38] Speaker 4: Peace.
[47:40] Speaker 2: Hold on. Not just really good, but also really strong. Yes.
[47:43] Speaker 2: And so I think you need to be afraid.
[47:45] Speaker 4: Also strong and fast. Yes.
[47:48] Speaker 2: Like you need to be glad that there was not
[47:49] Speaker 2: a hard foul.
[47:50] Speaker 6: Right.
[47:51] Speaker 2: Mixed up in this. Like whose ass is little now, bitch?
[48:01] Speaker 1: I'll guard earl's little oh no no no i don't
[48:04] Speaker 1: care who it is if his name is earl don't
[48:07] Speaker 1: call him little ass nothing no just telling you he's
[48:10] Speaker 1: not man with that name ain't gonna.
[48:12] Speaker 4: Be an earl the third or an earl.
[48:14] Speaker 11: Junior no matter no little about earls because he was
[48:17] Speaker 11: raised by an earl right like like i got it
[48:21] Speaker 11: my daddy got a pot named earl love earl to
[48:23] Speaker 11: death Earl is incredible.
[48:24] Speaker 2: Earl a PhD. Earl is like a gourmet caliber chef.
[48:28] Speaker 2: Earl is from New Orleans.
[48:30] Speaker 4: Got it.
[48:31] Speaker 2: I don't think you want no problems with Earl.
[48:33] Speaker 4: I understand completely.
[48:34] Speaker 2: Earl been to Vietnam. You understand what I'm saying?
[48:39] Speaker 4: Earl seen some things.
[48:41] Speaker 1: And look, I ain't never seen Earl do nothing but smile.
[48:45] Speaker 1: But I say about New Orleans, I tell you right now,
[48:48] Speaker 1: I ain't met a sucker from New Orleans yet. Not
[48:52] Speaker 1: a single solitary one. Eli Manning will fuck you up.
[48:58] Speaker 1: You don't think that.
[49:00] Speaker 2: But trust me, Odell Beckham, he'll be hee-hee all over you, boy.
[49:09] Speaker 1: You don't want those problems. But hey, ladies and gentlemen,
[49:15] Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us here on The Right Time.
[49:18] Speaker 1: We do this three times a week. This is Ryan
[49:20] Speaker 1: Brumley handling everything behind the scenes.
[49:22] Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.
[49:23] Speaker 1: Remember, hit the voicemail line, 323-596-7767. Whatever you want to
[49:29] Speaker 1: talk about, we open for it. And remember to follow
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[49:41] Speaker 2: Take it easy.

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