# Danny Parkins on LSU's absurd coaching search, Chiefs vs. Bills, Austin Reaves hype with Lakers | 10.31

An episode of [The Right Time with Bomani Jones](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/982639043), 31 Oct 2025, 55 min.

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Danny Parkins of First Things First joins Bomani Jones to break down the Louisiana governor's comments about replacing former LSU football coach Brian Kelly. Later, they preview the upcoming matchup between the Chiefs and the Bills and discuss whether or not Josh Allen is the second-best quarterback in the league. Finally, they touch on Austin Reaves' red-hot start to the NBA season for the Lakers and what it means for LeBron James. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:05] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
[0:09] Speaker 1: My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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[0:20] Speaker 1: a hater. It is Danny Parkins Friday. Danny Parkins from
[0:23] Speaker 1: FS1' s First Things First. What's going on, man?
[0:26] Speaker 2: Chilling, Bo. Thanks for having me back, man.
[0:28] Speaker 1: Hey, man. Got you on. And this is going to
[0:31] Speaker 1: be a really fun moment. for me and Ryan, what's
[0:34] Speaker 1: about to happen. Now we got Chiefs bills, some other
[0:36] Speaker 1: NFL stuff, great moments of white basketball history going on
[0:40] Speaker 1: right now. We'll get to all of those things. But first,
[0:44] Speaker 1: my father is from Louisiana. Ryan is from Louisiana. My
[0:48] Speaker 1: dad is from a little town called Oakdale. Ryan is
[0:50] Speaker 1: from Lafayette. And I say that to say that we
[0:54] Speaker 1: are both people who are very familiar with with Louisiana
[0:59] Speaker 1: and the different ways that Louisiana gets down. Danny is
[1:03] Speaker 1: from Chicago and has done Midwest and really, really cold
[1:08] Speaker 1: New York state living, right?
[1:09] Speaker 2: That's correct.
[1:10] Speaker 3: This is not very Louisiana at.
[1:12] Speaker 2: All, okay? I got no Southern ties in my family.
[1:16] Speaker 2: The only Louisiana experience I have is basically Bourbon Street
[1:20] Speaker 2: in New Orleans.
[1:20] Speaker 1: Okay, and I need you to understand there's Southern, but
[1:23] Speaker 1: there's Louisiana. Louisiana stands on its own. So- This LSU
[1:28] Speaker 1: coaching search.
[1:30] Speaker 3: Was already declared.
[1:31] Speaker 1: Ross Dellinger at Yahoo Sports put something in one of
[1:33] Speaker 1: his pieces where somebody's quoted as saying that this is
[1:35] Speaker 1: going to be the most Louisiana thing ever, okay? Now,
[1:40] Speaker 1: where this has gotten extra Louisiana, and when we say that,
[1:44] Speaker 1: we mean like in a Huey Long sort of way,
[1:48] Speaker 1: is that the governor... has decided that he is going
[1:53] Speaker 1: to run this search, right? Like this is clear that
[1:56] Speaker 1: he has decided he's going to run this search. Now,
[1:57] Speaker 1: an important detail for you to understand is that the
[2:01] Speaker 1: athletic director at LSU, Scott Woodward, is the guy who
[2:05] Speaker 1: also was the athletic director at Texas A & M
[2:07] Speaker 1: when they hired Jimbo Fisher and he got the $ 70
[2:09] Speaker 1: million buyout.
[2:10] Speaker 3: And this Brian Kelly buyout, which is a $ 50.
[2:15] Speaker 1: Million buyout, I believe, Though it's worth noting, James Franklin
[2:19] Speaker 1: also has a $ 50 million buyout, and your boy Scott
[2:22] Speaker 1: did not negotiate that one. This is just kind of
[2:24] Speaker 1: what things cost, okay? But he's that guy. Anyway, LSU
[2:30] Speaker 1: has an interim president right now. So that's why the
[2:32] Speaker 1: governor has taken in this power vacuum. And I started
[2:36] Speaker 1: seeing crazy quotes from the governor's press conference yesterday.
[2:41] Speaker 3: People were sending them to me. And I just read them.
[2:45] Speaker 1: Because they were quotes, they were written down, like they
[2:47] Speaker 1: were sent in tweets. And I try to stay off
[2:50] Speaker 1: of that place as much as I can at this point.
[2:53] Speaker 1: So I wasn't clicking the links, right? Then I was
[2:56] Speaker 1: made aware that it was a press conference. And, baby,
[3:01] Speaker 1: if you thought that what we had told you previously
[3:04] Speaker 1: implied Louisiana-ness in this situation, Danny, we're about to let
[3:08] Speaker 1: you know how Louisiana get down. Ryan, can we get
[3:12] Speaker 1: Governor Jeff Landry of Louisiana at his press conference about
[3:17] Speaker 1: this LSU coaching situation?
[3:19] Speaker 4: You know, to foot the bill. So, yeah, absolutely. Who's that?
[3:25] Speaker 1: No. No.
[3:25] Speaker 5: I can tell you right now, Scott Woodward is not
[3:27] Speaker 5: selecting the next coach. Hell, I'll let Donald Trump select
[3:29] Speaker 5: it before I let him do it.
[3:31] Speaker 4: I don't know, but the.
[3:32] Speaker 5: Board of Supervisors is going to come up with a
[3:33] Speaker 5: committee and they're going to go find us a coach.
[3:36] Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on. One real quick thing on that.
[3:38] Speaker 5: Because here's what y'all reporters need to do.
[3:40] Speaker 4: Y'all need to start looking at who represents all these people.
[3:45] Speaker 4: Like these agents. You know what's interesting?
[3:47] Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, Woodward's agent, Kelly's agent, the Texas
[3:52] Speaker 5: A & M, they're all the same agent. Like, you
[3:55] Speaker 5: realize if I would be, I don't know how many
[3:57] Speaker 5: sports writers we got here today.
[4:00] Speaker 4: Just you. We should have a bunch. Okay? Like, this
[4:03] Speaker 4: is ridiculous.
[4:05] Speaker 5: Lawyers would be disbarred for the way these agents act
[4:08] Speaker 5: and the way they're able to represent. In fact, they may,
[4:11] Speaker 5: there's no doubt, they may even represent some of the
[4:13] Speaker 5: players now. Like, it's really time for the NCAA to
[4:17] Speaker 5: put on some guardrails in college sports.
[4:21] Speaker 4: Because it is fine. We don't need to guardrails.
[4:23] Speaker 5: If big billionaires want to spend all that kind of money,
[4:27] Speaker 5: no problem. But if I got to go find $ 53
[4:29] Speaker 5: million from Kevin, it's not going to be a pleasant conversation.
[4:32] Speaker 4: I'm just telling you.
[4:36] Speaker 2: Okay.
[4:37] Speaker 1: First of all, he's not entirely wrong on the Asian thing,
[4:41] Speaker 1: but he's also not entirely right. Like that's a platitude.
[4:44] Speaker 1: We know this, right?
[4:47] Speaker 2: Um, put a pin in that point. Yeah.
[4:49] Speaker 1: Put a, put a pin at that point though, because
[4:51] Speaker 1: I just need your reaction to simply hearing that man's voice.
[4:55] Speaker 2: It's very Cajun. Uh, that, that, that is, it's hard
[4:59] Speaker 2: to take anything he says seriously.
[5:01] Speaker 1: And they get mad about that, by the way.
[5:03] Speaker 2: I know.
[5:05] Speaker 4: I know.
[5:07] Speaker 2: I just gave them red meat in the comments there. Um, yeah,
[5:12] Speaker 2: I'm like, This is terrible. But I'm thinking that he
[5:17] Speaker 2: sounds like a character in Adam Sandler's The Waterboy. Yes. Like,
[5:20] Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Mr. Coach Kline. Like, I'm
[5:23] Speaker 2: just like, I can't take him seriously. Like, that is just,
[5:26] Speaker 2: he's just a stereotypical archetype of everything that I learned
[5:30] Speaker 2: about Louisiana culture, which my first exposure to it was
[5:33] Speaker 2: Adam Sandler when I was like, 12 years old, which
[5:36] Speaker 2: is not good.
[5:36] Speaker 1: And the thing for me and Ryan is, we're like, no, no, no,
[5:38] Speaker 1: it's just kind of how it goes, right? Like, this
[5:42] Speaker 1: is not what any of you think is coming. That's
[5:43] Speaker 1: like the Ed Ogeron situation, right? That was amazing. Yeah, yeah,
[5:48] Speaker 1: but Ogeron was a football coach, so more into a
[5:51] Speaker 1: lane that you could go for.
[5:53] Speaker 3: And he is from St. Martinville, Louisiana. This is archetype,
[5:59] Speaker 3: I think, is an appropriate.
[6:00] Speaker 1: Way for you to put this, but What I heard
[6:04] Speaker 1: as he went through all of that, including the platitude
[6:06] Speaker 1: about the agent thing.
[6:07] Speaker 3: Like, yeah, buddy, you know what's interesting to me?
[6:10] Speaker 1: And as I heard him say this, right, which sounded
[6:13] Speaker 1: very much like a moment that all of us can
[6:15] Speaker 1: have at various points where you meet a fan in
[6:19] Speaker 1: the wild and they hit you with a platitude, really
[6:23] Speaker 1: thinking that they dropped the big joke. They're like, hey, man,
[6:26] Speaker 1: you know, I got this thing that I've been thinking about.
[6:29] Speaker 1: They shoot two minute three pointers in the NBA.
[6:32] Speaker 3: And you're like, oh, man, glad you brought that up.
[6:35] Speaker 1: You need to talk about that on your show.
[6:37] Speaker 2: Right.
[6:38] Speaker 1: He was that guy. And that's what dawned on me
[6:40] Speaker 1: is going to make this search hilarious. And what generally
[6:43] Speaker 1: makes these searches hilarious when they're not done by an
[6:46] Speaker 1: athletic director. If it's not done by an.
[6:49] Speaker 3: Athletic director, you know who's going to go find your
[6:50] Speaker 3: new coach?
[6:52] Speaker 2: A fan.
[6:54] Speaker 1: Maybe a really rich fan. Maybe a very powerful fan.
[6:58] Speaker 1: Perhaps one with high levels of education.
[7:00] Speaker 3: But in the end, just a fan.
[7:05] Speaker 2: Right someone who's got a good idea on message boards
[7:08] Speaker 2: yes like someone who has a username somewhere you know
[7:12] Speaker 2: uh i don't know if it's relevant but it feels
[7:14] Speaker 2: like it might be because i did see some sort
[7:16] Speaker 2: of like walk back comment from him that he was
[7:18] Speaker 2: like but i'm not going to be selecting is this
[7:22] Speaker 2: is this gentleman popular like is he broadly popular.
[7:25] Speaker 1: You know what let's look Jeff Landry approval rating.
[7:32] Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[7:33] Speaker 1: Five days ago, headline, Governor Landry's approval ratings drop across Louisiana,
[7:40] Speaker 1: even in Acadiana, and Acadiana is.
[7:43] Speaker 2: Where he from.
[7:44] Speaker 1: His approval rating has dropped to 39%. And that's the
[7:48] Speaker 1: reason why I think we're seeing this in the way
[7:49] Speaker 1: that we do. Look, talking bad about Brian Kelly and
[7:52] Speaker 1: wanting to fix LSU football is a bipartisan issue, shall
[7:56] Speaker 1: we say. He sent the tweet during the game about
[7:59] Speaker 1: how they needed to roll back the increase in ticket prices.
[8:03] Speaker 1: He has figured out his way back to the top, except, ooh, ooh,
[8:07] Speaker 1: I don't think this is really going to be it.
[8:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly. Criticizing Brian Kelly, rolling back ticket prices,
[8:12] Speaker 2: that's like a populist agenda thing. He could have taken
[8:15] Speaker 2: that 39% and maybe bumped it up into the low 50s,
[8:18] Speaker 2: but then he went a step too far and was like,
[8:21] Speaker 2: I'm taking over the search. No, you're not. No, you're not.
[8:26] Speaker 1: I'm going to run. Don't you have other things that
[8:29] Speaker 1: you should be doing? And he's like, what's more important
[8:31] Speaker 1: than this? And the people are like, you know what?
[8:33] Speaker 1: You got a point.
[8:34] Speaker 2: Exactly. But if they liked him, they'd be like, yeah,
[8:38] Speaker 2: I mean, he can't do a worse job than the
[8:39] Speaker 2: last guy who hired Brian Kelly, but they don't like him.
[8:42] Speaker 3: Hey, man, understand this. Louisiana is known for.
[8:46] Speaker 1: Government and people oftentimes having, we'll call it misplaced priorities.
[8:53] Speaker 1: Look at how long it took for them or the
[8:55] Speaker 1: circumstances under which it took for them to change the
[8:58] Speaker 1: legal drinking age. From 18 to 21. And what they
[9:01] Speaker 1: did that at the expense of, which I believe was
[9:04] Speaker 1: federal funds for the highways.
[9:05] Speaker 3: But they decided that.
[9:07] Speaker 1: Some things are more important than your highways being what
[9:11] Speaker 1: they are supposed to be.
[9:13] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[9:13] Speaker 1: You tell the governor like, hey, man, it's about to
[9:15] Speaker 1: be a category five barreling down.
[9:18] Speaker 2: We have a coach to find.
[9:20] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[9:23] Speaker 1: Like you think that you want to see a category six?
[9:26] Speaker 1: Let us not find a coach. That'll be a category six.
[9:31] Speaker 2: We've seen hurricanes before. We don't like seeing five losses.
[9:36] Speaker 2: Category five losses is the real problem.
[9:39] Speaker 1: Well, the other part is because that's a state with
[9:41] Speaker 1: only one really big time school. It's like Ohio State.
[9:45] Speaker 1: This is what everybody does. There's no split going on here.
[9:49] Speaker 1: This is not being partitioned.
[9:51] Speaker 3: This is what everybody's into. This is what everybody cares about.
[9:56] Speaker 2: When I will say their their marketing is pretty spectacular
[9:59] Speaker 2: like I'm not I love college football but it's not
[10:03] Speaker 2: in my like top three like sports like I got
[10:05] Speaker 2: a wife and kids so I kind of have to
[10:06] Speaker 2: give up a lot of my Saturdays just with them
[10:08] Speaker 2: because of what I do on my Sundays but the
[10:10] Speaker 2: marketing of like i haven't been to a night game
[10:14] Speaker 2: at baton rouge just like feels like a black hole
[10:17] Speaker 2: in my sports fan experience.
[10:19] Speaker 1: I don't want to go i gotta want to go
[10:20] Speaker 1: i gotta want to go like i've done i've done
[10:22] Speaker 1: a night game at baton rouge but it was at
[10:24] Speaker 1: southern which is also cracking but i'm sure i kind
[10:27] Speaker 1: of want to do the baton rouge thing and while
[10:29] Speaker 1: they sing a garth brooks song that i don't actually
[10:32] Speaker 1: know but i've heard of only because of them which
[10:34] Speaker 1: tells you a lot because i'm from texas um like
[10:37] Speaker 1: the the thing is we got to make sure we
[10:39] Speaker 1: get to like at once a good one but also
[10:42] Speaker 1: one that we know they gonna win like i don't
[10:43] Speaker 1: want to be around them if they're a little they're
[10:46] Speaker 1: a little salty but i bet that tailgate is bananas.
[10:48] Speaker 2: That's really what it is i just want to i
[10:50] Speaker 2: want to experience the game day culture and then the
[10:53] Speaker 2: game can be yeah it can.
[10:55] Speaker 1: Be hey start working on it and in 2026 we'll
[10:59] Speaker 1: figure out and when i say working on it you
[11:00] Speaker 1: understand what i mean you know talk to the boss
[11:04] Speaker 1: See if you can get you a couple days. And
[11:06] Speaker 1: I think that we can go down there and do
[11:07] Speaker 1: our odd couple thing down there in Baton Rouge.
[11:10] Speaker 2: Ryan can start working with his boss, too.
[11:12] Speaker 4: I'm in.
[11:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, we can do this. I am in. And yeah,
[11:16] Speaker 2: that's the doubleheader. Now, we don't want to go to
[11:21] Speaker 2: a Saints game. No, no, no, no, no.
[11:22] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[11:23] Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. They might fight me. Like
[11:26] Speaker 1: the Saints game. Saints games I don't need to be,
[11:29] Speaker 1: but I'm going to take you over. I got to
[11:30] Speaker 1: take you over my side of Baton Rouge. You know,
[11:32] Speaker 1: I got all kind of family through there.
[11:33] Speaker 2: I believe it. I'm in, man.
[11:34] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
[11:35] Speaker 1: I got to show you the other side of Baton Rouge,
[11:36] Speaker 1: but we're going to do that. Now that we have
[11:39] Speaker 1: laughed at the LSU search, we got a big weekend
[11:42] Speaker 1: in the NFL.
[11:43] Speaker 2: Not because it's a lot of big games, but it
[11:45] Speaker 2: is Chiefs builds.
[11:47] Speaker 3: Big ones.
[11:48] Speaker 1: The Bills, regular season against the Chiefs. They've shown that
[11:52] Speaker 1: they put up a puncher's, got a puncher's chance. In fact,
[11:54] Speaker 1: might win. It's the playoffs where they don't seem to
[11:57] Speaker 1: get over the top on this one. They get this
[11:59] Speaker 1: game at home. But what is interesting is we were
[12:02] Speaker 1: early this year looking at Buffalo. They're going to go
[12:04] Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl in Kansas City. Are they going
[12:06] Speaker 1: to make the playoffs? And now I feel like we've
[12:08] Speaker 1: all got back to our senses. And we're like, ah,
[12:11] Speaker 1: look at Kansas City.
[12:12] Speaker 3: Best team in the AFC. And Buffalo, we're like, hey,
[12:15] Speaker 3: they can't stop the run.
[12:17] Speaker 2: That is correct. And I'm not even totally convinced, even
[12:20] Speaker 2: though the numbers are pretty good, that they can stop
[12:22] Speaker 2: the pass because Drake May lit them up and Lamar
[12:24] Speaker 2: lit them up. They've played a terrible schedule. They have
[12:28] Speaker 2: no impressive wins at this point unless you give them
[12:31] Speaker 2: credit for that week one Baltimore win where they actually
[12:34] Speaker 2: didn't look that good. So yeah, you can run on
[12:36] Speaker 2: them and you can pass on them. And I'm expecting
[12:40] Speaker 2: the Chiefs to do both in this spot. Now, I
[12:42] Speaker 2: will say, I do think the bills like blip of
[12:45] Speaker 2: two losses was more of a blip. Like I do
[12:48] Speaker 2: still think the bills offense is excellent. So I expect
[12:51] Speaker 2: this to be a very high scoring game, but this
[12:54] Speaker 2: chiefs thing, man, they're putting up offensive numbers that are
[12:58] Speaker 2: identical to 2018 to 2022. Like not like five games
[13:02] Speaker 2: of that stretch, like five years of that stretch. So, so,
[13:07] Speaker 2: It's I do think that the Chiefs are very much
[13:09] Speaker 2: back to being the Chiefs and the Bills are in
[13:11] Speaker 2: a real bad spot here.
[13:13] Speaker 1: Right. So let's talk about these two losses, though, for
[13:15] Speaker 1: the Bills and whether or not they qualify as a blip.
[13:19] Speaker 1: And the reason we say this is you. I say
[13:21] Speaker 1: this is you are right. They got that one.
[13:23] Speaker 3: Win over the Ravens.
[13:24] Speaker 2: And you're right.
[13:24] Speaker 1: They give up 40 points. It's easy to forget because
[13:26] Speaker 1: it was so long ago. But otherwise, they've beaten bums.
[13:30] Speaker 1: They beat the Jets.
[13:32] Speaker 2: They beat the Dolphins.
[13:33] Speaker 3: They beat the Saints and they beat the Panthers. And
[13:37] Speaker 3: the teams that they.
[13:38] Speaker 1: Lost to are the Patriots, who, hold on, we'll get
[13:42] Speaker 1: to them.
[13:42] Speaker 2: The other one is the Falcons.
[13:43] Speaker 1: I don't ever have to explain what I'm saying when
[13:45] Speaker 1: I'm talking about you beating the Falcons, right? Like, come on.
[13:48] Speaker 1: But them beating the Patriots, the Patriots have also, all
[13:52] Speaker 1: those wins they've got are all against tomato cans.
[13:55] Speaker 3: Every single bit, right?
[13:56] Speaker 1: And so does that mean that the Bills are also
[13:59] Speaker 1: a tomato can as they are fitting in with a
[14:01] Speaker 1: lot of tomato cans that the Patriots themselves have beaten?
[14:04] Speaker 1: That's kind of where we are now. I feel like
[14:06] Speaker 1: we're getting enough of a sample in the games where
[14:09] Speaker 1: we can now raise questions about how good your wins
[14:13] Speaker 1: actually are.
[14:15] Speaker 2: I agree, and I don't know if you do your
[14:17] Speaker 2: NFL analysis this way, but if you've been good for years, plural,
[14:24] Speaker 2: I do think there is a carryover. I do think Philly, Detroit,
[14:31] Speaker 2: Kansas City, Buffalo, I am inclined to give those teams
[14:36] Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt and say the schedule didn't break.
[14:40] Speaker 2: It's really impossible for them to have an impressive resume
[14:43] Speaker 2: right now based on what their schedule is for this team.
[14:47] Speaker 2: But I still think that offensive line, that quarterback, that
[14:52] Speaker 2: running back, by the way, James Cook, he leads the NFL.
[14:55] Speaker 2: leads the NFL in rushing. Like I still think Buffalo is,
[14:58] Speaker 2: we're going to wake up at the end of the
[15:00] Speaker 2: year and they're going to have double digit wins and
[15:03] Speaker 2: be a problem. And let's say they lose to the chiefs.
[15:07] Speaker 2: Then all of us, Miami, Tampa, Houston, Pittsburgh, like we
[15:11] Speaker 2: can poke holes in any of those opponents, Cincinnati, new England, Cleveland.
[15:15] Speaker 2: Like there aren't that many good teams in the NFL
[15:19] Speaker 2: this year. So if I only can judge you based
[15:22] Speaker 2: on your resume this year and what you've done, who's good?
[15:25] Speaker 2: Kansas City? Philly? Philly? Like it's not it's not a
[15:29] Speaker 2: very long list.
[15:30] Speaker 1: And Kansas City's five and three, you know, like per
[15:33] Speaker 1: what you're saying. And I do think it is worth noting.
[15:36] Speaker 1: And I did not say this. Yes, the Bills have
[15:38] Speaker 1: beaten tomato cans. But in fairness to them, they have
[15:41] Speaker 1: beaten the hell.
[15:42] Speaker 2: Out of those tomato cans.
[15:43] Speaker 4: Right.
[15:43] Speaker 2: Like they always do.
[15:44] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[15:45] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[15:45] Speaker 1: They're beaten by double digits.
[15:46] Speaker 2: You're right.
[15:46] Speaker 1: They are.
[15:47] Speaker 2: They are that sort of team.
[15:48] Speaker 1: And it is very similar, I would say, to the
[15:53] Speaker 1: Ravens when they roll. They are going to beat Bums,
[15:56] Speaker 1: and they are going to beat the Bums emphatically. It's
[15:59] Speaker 1: those other games they get a little bit dicey, but
[16:01] Speaker 1: they're not going to do a whole lot of losing
[16:03] Speaker 1: that they're not supposed to do, except when you play
[16:04] Speaker 1: against the Falcons.
[16:06] Speaker 2: Yeah, they have– I had this on Breakfast Bowl the
[16:10] Speaker 2: other day when they came out of the Carolina game.
[16:12] Speaker 2: That was their 10th win of 28 or more points
[16:18] Speaker 2: in the last five years.
[16:19] Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
[16:19] Speaker 2: 28 or more in the NFL is an ass kicking.
[16:23] Speaker 2: Like that, that is a, that is a, that is
[16:24] Speaker 2: a college football power five V not type of game.
[16:29] Speaker 2: And so they, they, they can kick your ass if
[16:31] Speaker 2: you're really bad and not in their class. And yeah,
[16:33] Speaker 2: your point is valid. Like they, they can't beat the
[16:36] Speaker 2: chiefs in the playoffs. Josh Allen hasn't been the problem. Like,
[16:39] Speaker 2: in the regular season or the playoffs, like he's got
[16:41] Speaker 2: 24 touchdowns against five turnovers in his 10 career games
[16:44] Speaker 2: against the chiefs. Like Josh Allen will show up. It's
[16:47] Speaker 2: just that that other team has 15 and Andy Reed
[16:50] Speaker 2: and everybody else. So, you know, there's really nothing Buffalo
[16:54] Speaker 2: I think can prove to the masses at large in
[16:56] Speaker 2: this game. But let's be honest, man. Like what if
[16:59] Speaker 2: Kansas city loses? Yeah.
[17:02] Speaker 3: Oh, we'll turn so fast.
[17:03] Speaker 1: Right.
[17:04] Speaker 3: They'll be sitting on a five and four.
[17:06] Speaker 1: They are fortunate in that the Chargers thing hasn't turned
[17:10] Speaker 1: out like it looked like it was going too early
[17:12] Speaker 1: because there was two sides, two sides of the coin
[17:14] Speaker 1: in that game in Brazil in week one.
[17:16] Speaker 2: It was like, oh, my gosh, what's going on with
[17:18] Speaker 2: the Chiefs?
[17:18] Speaker 1: But hey, look at the Chargers, even though looking back,
[17:21] Speaker 1: that game was not like. given the uniqueness of the
[17:25] Speaker 1: circumstances and the margin was not so great that maybe
[17:28] Speaker 1: it didn't mean as much as any of us wanted
[17:30] Speaker 1: to believe that it meant at the time, but Buffalo's
[17:34] Speaker 1: got 10 games left and five of them are tricky.
[17:36] Speaker 3: They got the chiefs at home, the bucks at home
[17:39] Speaker 3: at Houston.
[17:40] Speaker 1: And I think the Houston is one of those where
[17:42] Speaker 1: it's going to turn where they probably played better than
[17:44] Speaker 1: their record indicated early.
[17:45] Speaker 2: And I think that one starts coming around.
[17:47] Speaker 3: They got at.
[17:49] Speaker 1: The Steelers, um, at the patriots and they've got the
[17:54] Speaker 1: eagles second last week of the year oh yeah that's
[17:57] Speaker 1: there we go those are the five.
[17:59] Speaker 2: Yeah like so if you were going to say who
[18:02] Speaker 2: can you more reasonably see missing the playoffs chiefs or
[18:07] Speaker 2: bills you would say it's the bills comfortably correct.
[18:10] Speaker 1: I would say it's the bills and i think it's
[18:11] Speaker 1: in line with your point that's the benefit of the
[18:13] Speaker 1: doubt factor that the chiefs have heard like we're at
[18:16] Speaker 1: like buffalo How many years in a row is it
[18:18] Speaker 1: now that they've won that division? Is it something like six?
[18:21] Speaker 2: It's six.
[18:21] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[18:23] Speaker 1: That's kind of crazy. Like, I don't think we discussed
[18:26] Speaker 1: that nearly enough that they are now the way the
[18:29] Speaker 1: chiefs are running that division. Like we're in the way
[18:32] Speaker 1: that the Patriots were running the East, except I think
[18:34] Speaker 1: the difference is, well, with Buffalo is the same division
[18:36] Speaker 1: that we've long found to be mediocre. The chiefs thing
[18:39] Speaker 1: is we haven't felt that way necessarily about the division
[18:41] Speaker 1: and they just keep walking through.
[18:43] Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that, you know, the AFC West gets like, well,
[18:46] Speaker 2: they've got, Harbaugh and Sean Payton. And it's just like
[18:49] Speaker 2: now Pete Carroll, like it's just, it's an impressive group there.
[18:52] Speaker 2: We saw the Patriots dominate the East for even longer
[18:55] Speaker 2: than the bills have dominated the East and the bills
[18:58] Speaker 2: haven't backed it up with doing anything in the playoffs
[19:00] Speaker 2: that anybody cares about. I think that I think that's
[19:03] Speaker 2: really the biggest thing. It's like, oh, OK, well, so
[19:05] Speaker 2: you dominate a bad division and then you lose in
[19:07] Speaker 2: the divisional round of the playoffs. Like, how impressed am
[19:10] Speaker 2: I supposed to be by that? And I don't think
[19:12] Speaker 2: that's entirely fair, but I do think that's why we
[19:16] Speaker 2: kind of downgrade their regular season dominance. Like, let me
[19:19] Speaker 2: go ahead. Let me tell you this, though, buddy.
[19:21] Speaker 1: I can't imagine how cracking is going to be in
[19:23] Speaker 1: that stadium because, you know. as Nick would say, it's
[19:25] Speaker 1: Super Bowl time for the Buffalo Bills.
[19:28] Speaker 3: And he's not wrong. He's not wrong. They get this
[19:30] Speaker 3: game at home against the Chiefs.
[19:31] Speaker 1: Because look, man, for them, it ain't just about the teams.
[19:35] Speaker 1: It's also about the Josh Allen thing. They love him
[19:39] Speaker 1: in a very unique and special way. And they want
[19:41] Speaker 1: all the best things for him.
[19:43] Speaker 3: And this is a time. This is another example.
[19:46] Speaker 4: I know.
[19:46] Speaker 2: And I know that like, I heard you, I saw
[19:49] Speaker 2: the clip of you saying like that everybody loves Josh
[19:51] Speaker 2: Allen and the media roots for him. And I was like,
[19:53] Speaker 2: is he talking about me? It's everybody.
[19:57] Speaker 1: I know. I know.
[19:58] Speaker 2: Well, but here's what I will say about it in
[20:00] Speaker 2: like defense, I guess, of the opinions at large. Cause
[20:03] Speaker 2: like Nick and I were going back and forth at
[20:04] Speaker 2: this yesterday on TV and he was like rattling off
[20:07] Speaker 2: all the people that said Josh Allen was the best
[20:09] Speaker 2: quarterback in the world. He's like, people are so quick
[20:10] Speaker 2: to move on from home. So I'm like, I at
[20:12] Speaker 2: least never said that. My thing has always been though.
[20:16] Speaker 2: I think as much of a foregone conclusion as it
[20:18] Speaker 2: is that Mahomes is the best, it should also be
[20:22] Speaker 2: nearly that much of a consensus majority of opinion that
[20:25] Speaker 2: the second best quarterback in the NFL is Josh Allen.
[20:29] Speaker 1: That's where I disagree because I think that's really selling
[20:34] Speaker 1: Lamar short. Now, of course, the issue becomes the drop
[20:39] Speaker 1: in performance in postseason.
[20:42] Speaker 2: That's a pretty big one.
[20:43] Speaker 1: It's a pretty big one, but all I'm saying is,
[20:45] Speaker 1: We never dropped Peyton Manning to number three, or in
[20:49] Speaker 1: some cases below number one, under very, very, very similar
[20:54] Speaker 1: circumstances through this point in his career.
[20:56] Speaker 2: Okay, but I hear what you're saying, and comparing eras
[21:01] Speaker 2: is like a worthwhile cause, but I think that there are,
[21:04] Speaker 2: like the game has changed, what we value changed, we
[21:06] Speaker 2: get smarter, different stats, whatever the case may be. Like,
[21:10] Speaker 2: since 2020, Mahomes is first in the NFL. In passing yards,
[21:16] Speaker 2: passing touchdowns, wins, and playoff wins. Josh Allen is third
[21:22] Speaker 2: in passing yards, second in passing touchdowns, second in wins,
[21:28] Speaker 2: and second in playoff wins. And the only guy who
[21:31] Speaker 2: passed him in passing yards was Justin Herbert. It was
[21:33] Speaker 2: like two weeks ago. So Allen, in terms of the
[21:37] Speaker 2: quarterbacking things that we care about, the yards, the touchdowns,
[21:42] Speaker 2: the winning, the playoff wins. He's second to the goat.
[21:46] Speaker 2: So I just, I feel like it's like a fairly,
[21:49] Speaker 2: now the highs of Lamar, the difficulty of defending Lamar,
[21:54] Speaker 2: multiple MVPs. Lamar's amazing. And with all of this, we
[21:58] Speaker 2: are parsing greatness. But if Josh Allen also balls out
[22:01] Speaker 2: in the playoffs and Lamar doesn't, I feel like that's
[22:03] Speaker 2: a reasonable place to put the tiebreaker.
[22:06] Speaker 3: While I hear you. And I don't do a lot
[22:09] Speaker 3: of stat leaning at this point.
[22:11] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[22:12] Speaker 1: But I think we're ignoring that the dude last year
[22:16] Speaker 1: had 41 touchdowns and four interceptions.
[22:18] Speaker 3: And I also think that.
[22:22] Speaker 1: He is the central node of his offense in the
[22:26] Speaker 1: way that Allen is in his, it's not just about
[22:30] Speaker 1: what the numbers are. It's that everything that happens here
[22:32] Speaker 1: is because of this guy. Now we're at a place
[22:34] Speaker 1: where they went and got Lamar, got some dudes around
[22:36] Speaker 1: him in a way that Allen no longer does. Right. Like, like,
[22:40] Speaker 1: The Stefan Diggs is not there anymore, for example, though
[22:43] Speaker 1: they do have James Cook. They put the stuff around Lamar,
[22:46] Speaker 1: but this is about Lamar. The advanced statistical case for
[22:49] Speaker 1: Lamar is also pretty spectacular. I think it is a debate,
[22:56] Speaker 1: and I think that that's where I think that we go.
[22:58] Speaker 3: A little too hard because of the postseason stuff with him.
[23:00] Speaker 1: Not to say that having Allen at number two is unreasonable,
[23:05] Speaker 1: but I don't think that it's indisputable.
[23:07] Speaker 3: I think that's my thing.
[23:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, I mean, if I say it's indisputable
[23:12] Speaker 2: and then you dispute it, that immediately makes me wrong.
[23:17] Speaker 2: So I guess I'm happy to concede the point. I just–
[23:21] Speaker 2: I will defer to the guy who– got it done
[23:25] Speaker 2: in the playoffs more now. And again, neither of them
[23:28] Speaker 2: have gotten done in the playoffs at the ultimate level.
[23:30] Speaker 2: And I do think I over sell the 13 second game.
[23:35] Speaker 2: I'm like, Josh Allen had 300. Oh, that's, that's, that's
[23:38] Speaker 2: the ultimate man. Only, only a Josh Allen can get
[23:40] Speaker 2: credit for what, for not winning. Oh, I watched the
[23:45] Speaker 2: game too.
[23:46] Speaker 1: It was pretty good. I'm not saying it wasn't good, man.
[23:48] Speaker 2: I was there. I mean, I wasn't there.
[23:50] Speaker 1: I mean, he never got the ball back. Yeah, that's
[23:53] Speaker 1: how it goes. Finally, for the first time ever, people
[23:57] Speaker 1: were like, wait a minute. Sudden death is wrong because
[24:00] Speaker 1: Josh ain't get the ball.
[24:01] Speaker 2: No, I didn't want it changed. I don't need my
[24:03] Speaker 2: overtime to be fair, but I do need to be like,
[24:06] Speaker 2: he can't beat Mahomes in the playoffs. I'm like, yeah,
[24:08] Speaker 2: he can.
[24:09] Speaker 1: Well, maybe he can, but the bottom line is he
[24:11] Speaker 1: did not.
[24:12] Speaker 2: That's right. The bottom line is that he did not.
[24:16] Speaker 3: The bottom line is that he did not.
[24:18] Speaker 1: Look, we're big fans of the big galoot over here, right?
[24:22] Speaker 1: I want to make sure that we're very clear about this.
[24:24] Speaker 1: We are big fans of the big galoot.
[24:27] Speaker 3: I'll be hoping, man, just hoping, just hoping.
[24:31] Speaker 2: And I want to be clear that I am big
[24:32] Speaker 2: fans of Lamar. Like before last year, I would still
[24:35] Speaker 2: have made like a burrow over Lamar argument. And now
[24:38] Speaker 2: I'm like fully off that. Yeah.
[24:39] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[24:40] Speaker 2: Yeah. So that was, that was people overreacting.
[24:42] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[24:42] Speaker 2: That was overreacting. I will, I will fully concede that.
[24:45] Speaker 2: And Lamar stays on the field in a way that
[24:48] Speaker 2: burrow does not. And burrow is better in the playoffs,
[24:51] Speaker 2: but he's not there as often. And so like, I'm,
[24:54] Speaker 2: I'm not, well, Lamar is to me very clearly at three.
[24:58] Speaker 2: But yeah, and so Lamar is Lamar is spectacular. And
[25:01] Speaker 2: by the way, there's the reason why the Ravens right now,
[25:06] Speaker 2: even though they are two and five are favored to
[25:10] Speaker 2: win the AFC North is their path compared to Pittsburgh's
[25:14] Speaker 2: path is so much easier. Just the next like they
[25:18] Speaker 2: don't play Pittsburgh until week 14. They very easily could
[25:22] Speaker 2: be tied or in first place before they even beat
[25:25] Speaker 2: them one time. So Lamar coming back, I think, changes
[25:29] Speaker 2: everything for them. And I do still expect the Ravens
[25:31] Speaker 2: to win that division.
[25:32] Speaker 1: Hey, speaking of Pittsburgh, I just read something. Did y'all's
[25:35] Speaker 1: homeboy get his nipples pierced?
[25:37] Speaker 2: He did. Yeah, yesterday.
[25:39] Speaker 1: They got a homeboy named Pony. And Pony worked on
[25:43] Speaker 1: the radio. And I forget what he said, that if
[25:46] Speaker 1: something happened, he would get his nipples pierced. I got
[25:48] Speaker 1: to be honest. It wasn't that, like... It was on
[25:52] Speaker 1: the board that this could happen, whatever the thing. What
[25:54] Speaker 1: was the thing?
[25:55] Speaker 2: It was Steelers-Bengals two weeks ago.
[25:58] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. On a Thursday night on the road,
[26:00] Speaker 1: I got to say, I just think he wanted to
[26:02] Speaker 1: get his nipples pierced because that was not nearly hyperbolic
[26:06] Speaker 1: enough to justify the risk.
[26:07] Speaker 3: And next thing you know, you look up.
[26:09] Speaker 1: He out here looking like Janet Jackson.
[26:11] Speaker 2: That is right. And, you know, he's a showman. He's
[26:15] Speaker 2: a performer. He's king of Pittsburgh radio. He turned it
[26:19] Speaker 2: into a– he pivoted nicely– Breast Cancer Awareness Month, they raised,
[26:23] Speaker 2: I think, $ 12, 000 last night at a bar. Packed the house,
[26:26] Speaker 2: a bunch of people showed up, bought tickets, made a donation.
[26:29] Speaker 2: Pat Fryermuth donated some game-worn cleats that they auctioned off,
[26:32] Speaker 2: that sort of thing. But yeah, right now, both of
[26:36] Speaker 2: his nipples are pierced. And I haven't spoken to him
[26:38] Speaker 2: yet today, but we were texting last night and he
[26:41] Speaker 2: said his nipples were burning. I'm like, yeah, I bet.
[26:43] Speaker 2: You didn't need to tell me that. But he also
[26:45] Speaker 2: added in the tweet, without a numbing agent. Like why?
[26:50] Speaker 1: Because the real answer to this, to me very clearly,
[26:52] Speaker 1: is he a freak. Like he just, he just a freak. Like,
[26:59] Speaker 1: like he needed an excuse to get this freak shit off.
[27:02] Speaker 1: And he, he, he put it, he put it out
[27:04] Speaker 1: there and then he went and he went, yeah, yeah.
[27:06] Speaker 1: He didn't do no numbing agent.
[27:07] Speaker 4: Nah, man.
[27:08] Speaker 3: He wanted to feel that pain.
[27:09] Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying?
[27:11] Speaker 1: Like, yeah.
[27:11] Speaker 2: And I mean, I'm not going to out my boy
[27:13] Speaker 2: from college too much, but you're on it.
[27:16] Speaker 1: Yeah. You just learned some things about the homie that
[27:18] Speaker 1: maybe you knew it ain't telling us, but I could
[27:20] Speaker 1: tell right now, like he, he, he, he, he, he
[27:23] Speaker 1: a freaky deaky.
[27:24] Speaker 3: That's, that's, that's, that's, that's what it is. Like I'd
[27:26] Speaker 3: never really thought about how this relates to men, but I.
[27:29] Speaker 2: Guess, yeah, he a freaky deaky.
[27:30] Speaker 3: That's the, that's the only explanation.
[27:33] Speaker 2: Andrew, Andrew Filippone. Yeah. Yeah.
[27:36] Speaker 1: By the way, talking about spinning radio events, I have
[27:38] Speaker 1: to bring this up because I think that this went
[27:40] Speaker 1: on during a time that I wasn't really on the
[27:42] Speaker 1: internet and I was not aware of, but a buddy
[27:44] Speaker 1: of mine made me aware of. guys this guy danny
[27:47] Speaker 1: parkins one time in chicago got so tired these people
[27:50] Speaker 1: talk about what about chicago that he helped to fuck
[27:52] Speaker 1: like could you like i'm dead serious because this was
[27:55] Speaker 1: one of the most impressive things that i had ever
[27:56] Speaker 1: seen you did this with the the acho that people like.
[28:00] Speaker 2: Uh yes sam acho yeah wow thank you for bringing
[28:04] Speaker 2: that up um i think i'm wearing yeah i got
[28:07] Speaker 2: my undershirt on right now is one of the shirts
[28:08] Speaker 2: we we sold for that event it says keep chicago
[28:11] Speaker 2: out of your mouth um I listen, I'm a privileged
[28:15] Speaker 2: kid from the north side of Chicago who then moved
[28:17] Speaker 2: to the more privileged northern suburbs of Chicago. But I
[28:21] Speaker 2: read and I know people from the city and all
[28:24] Speaker 2: parts of Chicago. And it would really piss me off
[28:26] Speaker 2: when politicians would make the very disingenuous when they were
[28:30] Speaker 2: talking about gun control. They would be like, well, gun
[28:32] Speaker 2: control doesn't work. What about Chicago? They've got strict gun laws,
[28:36] Speaker 2: but they've got all these gun deaths. And I was like,
[28:38] Speaker 2: you you guys don't give a shit about Chicago anymore.
[28:41] Speaker 2: you know, damn well that it's a eight minute drive
[28:44] Speaker 2: across the bridge to Indiana and the gun laws there
[28:47] Speaker 2: are so lax. And like 40% of guns that are
[28:50] Speaker 2: recovered in violent crime in Chicago come from out of state.
[28:52] Speaker 2: They know all these numbers and they do not care.
[28:54] Speaker 2: And they just use Chicago as this argument to, to
[28:57] Speaker 2: shit on the city when they don't live there and
[28:59] Speaker 2: they don't care about it. And so this is long story.
[29:03] Speaker 2: I'll tell as quickly as I can. But when the
[29:07] Speaker 2: George Floyd murder happened and there was all that, civic unrest.
[29:12] Speaker 2: There was, there's this group of kids, uh, at this
[29:15] Speaker 2: like afterschool academy in Chicago that, uh, had this liquor
[29:19] Speaker 2: store that was across the street from their afterschool program
[29:22] Speaker 2: where a bunch of bad stuff was happening, drug deals,
[29:25] Speaker 2: things like that. And it got, it got looted, um,
[29:29] Speaker 2: and got torn up or whatever. And Sam Acho and
[29:32] Speaker 2: some other, uh, Jason Hayward and other people put money
[29:36] Speaker 2: together to buy the liquor store, tear it down, pave
[29:40] Speaker 2: over it. And the kids started a food mart program
[29:45] Speaker 2: because they were in a food desert in the Austin
[29:47] Speaker 2: neighborhood on the west side of Chicago. And they partnered
[29:49] Speaker 2: with a grocery store and they were able to get
[29:52] Speaker 2: tomatoes and avocados and whatever, you know, produce. for cost
[29:56] Speaker 2: to sell to the neighborhood. So the kids had an
[29:59] Speaker 2: entrepreneurial program. They were able to provide healthy food in
[30:02] Speaker 2: a place where there wasn't a grocery store within walking distance,
[30:04] Speaker 2: that sort of thing. But the problem with a food
[30:07] Speaker 2: mart in an open air area on some pavement in
[30:10] Speaker 2: Chicago is it gets cold. And so I was really
[30:14] Speaker 2: moved by this story and they were having to shut
[30:17] Speaker 2: down the food mart around holiday season in Chicago. And
[30:21] Speaker 2: so we did this radiothon. I did this 24 hour radiothon.
[30:24] Speaker 2: I called it the, what about Chicago radiothon? Like turning
[30:27] Speaker 2: it on its head. Like you talking about Chicago? What
[30:29] Speaker 2: about Chicago? And broadcast for 24 hours, brought on a
[30:33] Speaker 2: lot of those athletes who funded the grocery store, brought
[30:35] Speaker 2: on the kids, brought on people who talked about the
[30:37] Speaker 2: benefits of, you know, closing food deserts. And we raised
[30:41] Speaker 2: $ 670, 000 and built a 1700 square foot, uh, refrigeration, security,
[30:52] Speaker 2: grocery store that still exists in Austin to this day
[30:54] Speaker 2: that is fully staffed by kids.
[30:57] Speaker 1: That is pretty incredible. Coming up next, we'll talk about
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[32:16] Speaker 3: All right, we are back with Danny Parkins.
[32:20] Speaker 1: I want to switch to a little NBA because I
[32:22] Speaker 1: do think what's going on with the Lakers right now
[32:23] Speaker 1: is really, really interesting, right? So start the year, Luka
[32:26] Speaker 1: puts up 40 with LeBron sitting there saying nothing.
[32:32] Speaker 2: Been there, been there. No, no, nothing's wrong. No, I
[32:35] Speaker 2: just want to watch the game.
[32:37] Speaker 3: The problem is you asking me if something's wrong.
[32:40] Speaker 1: You know, so we've seen that. Then Luka put up
[32:42] Speaker 1: another 40 in game two and he gets hurt. And
[32:45] Speaker 1: then Austin Reeves comes out and puts up a 50,
[32:48] Speaker 1: 11 and nine and then puts up another 40 the
[32:52] Speaker 1: next night. This is, hey man, I don't know what
[32:56] Speaker 1: this means, but there was a time when Austin Reeves
[32:58] Speaker 1: would do this and this is like the AR-15. Hey man,
[33:01] Speaker 1: he'd be the most famous man in America right now
[33:03] Speaker 1: for putting up this run. Like maybe he needed to
[33:05] Speaker 1: do this when he was a little sorrier and then
[33:07] Speaker 1: it could be Linsanity.
[33:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, and football season. We are peak college football, NFL,
[33:16] Speaker 2: the unbelievable World Series. No one's paying attention to early
[33:20] Speaker 2: season NBA unless it's Victor Wembanyama.
[33:23] Speaker 4: Yes.
[33:23] Speaker 2: Who? I mean, ridiculous. But yeah, I mean, Austin Reeves
[33:31] Speaker 2: right now is averaging a cool 34 points, five and
[33:36] Speaker 2: a half boards, 10 assists. 1.8 steals.
[33:41] Speaker 4: That'll play.
[33:42] Speaker 2: That'll play for the headband wearing Austin Reeves. And in
[33:46] Speaker 2: 38 minutes a night, like second best player on the team.
[33:53] Speaker 1: Oh. Just saying.
[33:56] Speaker 3: I'm not ready to do that. I understand you.
[34:02] Speaker 1: There's certainly a plausible statistical argument for this fact.
[34:05] Speaker 3: Now, let me ask this question because this.
[34:07] Speaker 1: Is what I think is interesting about it, which is
[34:10] Speaker 1: when the Linsanity run happened, a lot of people said, well, hey,
[34:13] Speaker 1: if you let me come out here and run high
[34:15] Speaker 1: pick and roll every time down the floor, it would
[34:18] Speaker 1: look similar too. There was a guy named Matt Maloney
[34:20] Speaker 1: who played for the Rockets who during the playoffs one
[34:23] Speaker 1: year did the same thing to Gary Payton.
[34:25] Speaker 3: Gary Payton was furious. Cause he's like, it's just high
[34:28] Speaker 3: screen to roll every time.
[34:29] Speaker 1: Like you get out here and do, I mean, cause
[34:32] Speaker 1: Matt Maloney, by the way, was like if Austin Reeves
[34:35] Speaker 1: went to prep school.
[34:36] Speaker 3: Like he went to UPenn, if I'm not mistaken.
[34:40] Speaker 4: Oh, nice.
[34:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[34:41] Speaker 3: And he's out here giving it to Gary Payne, right?
[34:44] Speaker 2: It was a similar sort of thing.
[34:45] Speaker 1: Is Austin Reeves a guy where if you create a
[34:48] Speaker 1: circumstance that allows him to be your best player, he
[34:51] Speaker 1: could be the guy who does this. You don't necessarily
[34:54] Speaker 1: win anything. but he could put up big numbers under
[34:56] Speaker 1: these circumstances. But does that mean he's actually a guy
[34:59] Speaker 1: that could be the second or third best player on
[35:01] Speaker 1: a really good team? Because like the way it's looking,
[35:04] Speaker 1: I think we all agree. Luke is a top five
[35:06] Speaker 1: to seven player in the league.
[35:08] Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
[35:08] Speaker 1: If Austin Reeves is a credible number two, Right? Because, look,
[35:13] Speaker 1: I don't know how much LeBron is actually going to
[35:14] Speaker 1: play this year. Not that he doesn't want to, but
[35:17] Speaker 1: a man his age, I don't think you can just
[35:19] Speaker 1: write down 65 games.
[35:20] Speaker 3: That's not, you know, he got my back hurt right now.
[35:26] Speaker 2: All right? That's right.
[35:27] Speaker 1: That's a thing.
[35:28] Speaker 2: That's a thing.
[35:29] Speaker 1: But I don't know what Austin Reeves is. I guess
[35:32] Speaker 1: we've seen what Austin Reeves is if he's the two
[35:34] Speaker 1: or three. And it wasn't anything that made us believe
[35:36] Speaker 1: that he could be the guy that scores 50 when
[35:38] Speaker 1: he's got the chance.
[35:40] Speaker 2: Right. So like, I don't know. There's a, there's a
[35:43] Speaker 2: few things here. I think that the NBA is the
[35:46] Speaker 2: only sport that real realistically has enough talent where I
[35:49] Speaker 2: would be totally comfortable with expansion. Like there are, there's
[35:53] Speaker 2: so many talented basketball players that are on the bench
[35:56] Speaker 2: that I'm not like to your point, I'm not saying
[35:57] Speaker 2: that it would be if they got their moment in
[36:00] Speaker 2: the sun, that they would be the best player on
[36:02] Speaker 2: a championship team, but that they could average 27 a game.
[36:06] Speaker 2: and look like an NBA player. We see those types
[36:08] Speaker 2: of stories all the time where guys come in and
[36:11] Speaker 2: make an outsized impact. And you're like, who the hell
[36:12] Speaker 2: is that guy? And it's like, yeah, he just got
[36:14] Speaker 2: the minutes. Like someone got to get buckets on bad teams.
[36:16] Speaker 2: It's an NBA truism. But I also believe that to
[36:21] Speaker 2: really win in the NBA of your top three guys,
[36:27] Speaker 2: two of them have to be two way players. Yeah.
[36:30] Speaker 2: Like you can't have like the, the bulls team, A
[36:34] Speaker 2: couple of years ago, like Chicago guy, love the Bulls,
[36:37] Speaker 2: like DeMar DeRozan, Zach Levine, Nikola Vucevic, where there are
[36:42] Speaker 2: three highest paid players. There are three, quote unquote, best players.
[36:45] Speaker 2: All of them were traffic cones. Right.
[36:49] Speaker 1: Right.
[36:49] Speaker 2: And it's like, well, then they had Caruso and they
[36:51] Speaker 2: had Lonzo Ball. And like, yeah, but then Lonzo got hurt, whatever.
[36:54] Speaker 2: But like you, why Giannis is so special is because
[36:56] Speaker 2: he's a two way impact player. Right.
[36:58] Speaker 3: The Knicks are in this bind.
[37:00] Speaker 2: Exactly. Brunson and Cat are their best players, but they
[37:04] Speaker 2: are both liabilities on the defensive end of the court.
[37:06] Speaker 2: Your best players need to you need to also have
[37:09] Speaker 2: an impact from them defensively or else it's too hard
[37:11] Speaker 2: to construct your team based on the money. So I
[37:14] Speaker 2: don't think Luca, Austin Reeves and LeBron as your big three,
[37:18] Speaker 2: quote unquote, at this stage of what LeBron can do
[37:21] Speaker 2: athletically with availability, athleticism and the oh, my back hurts.
[37:25] Speaker 2: I don't think that that's a thing that can win anything.
[37:27] Speaker 1: Hey, Ken, I see what I don't know and I
[37:30] Speaker 1: need to watch them more closely. I need to find
[37:32] Speaker 1: out if Austin Reeves really isn't a good defensive player or,
[37:36] Speaker 1: you know, y'all out here, crabs in a barrel, don't
[37:39] Speaker 1: want to give no props to y'all's countrymen and acknowledge
[37:42] Speaker 1: the possibility that he might be out here playing some defense.
[37:45] Speaker 1: But I'm going to tell you this right now, Austin Reeves,
[37:47] Speaker 1: and then we'll give you some very important advice, okay?
[37:50] Speaker 1: You keep balling like this and things have changed a
[37:54] Speaker 1: little bit. but I still think there's a lot of
[37:57] Speaker 1: money out there for you just as being the one
[38:00] Speaker 1: that's not like the other.
[38:01] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
[38:02] Speaker 1: Like you can really, you're going to be talking to
[38:04] Speaker 1: all the schools, like all the kids going to be out,
[38:06] Speaker 1: you know, like it's, it's the world is.
[38:09] Speaker 3: The games out there, games out there waiting.
[38:12] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[38:13] Speaker 1: It's all there for Austin Reeves, but this is a
[38:14] Speaker 1: very important thing that he and his marketing people need
[38:17] Speaker 1: to understand. They're going to stop loving you, or at
[38:21] Speaker 1: least they're not going to have you in the same category.
[38:24] Speaker 1: if you mess around and start getting your hair cut
[38:27] Speaker 1: with the rest of the team.
[38:30] Speaker 2: Okay?
[38:30] Speaker 3: Maybe you need to go get your hair.
[38:32] Speaker 1: Cut where Rui get his hair cut, because he does
[38:34] Speaker 1: not seem to get his hair cut with the rest
[38:36] Speaker 1: of the team, but you need to keep that floppy
[38:38] Speaker 1: shit going.
[38:38] Speaker 3: Like, you think about this.
[38:40] Speaker 1: They don't give Tyler Hero no bonus white boy points
[38:42] Speaker 1: at basketball, and I think it is entirely tied to
[38:45] Speaker 1: white people believe in the quality of your whiteness based
[38:48] Speaker 1: on how cool your haircut is. And if you mess
[38:51] Speaker 1: up and get a cool haircut, It's all going to
[38:54] Speaker 1: go away. Like even Luca, Luca's haircut is like moderately cool.
[38:58] Speaker 3: He ain't really going there. Like Tyler Hero looked like
[39:00] Speaker 3: he might fly his barber around.
[39:04] Speaker 2: So should he go all the way with the Kirk
[39:07] Speaker 2: Cousins sport clip sponsorship?
[39:10] Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying, there's more money in that.
[39:13] Speaker 1: That playwright, that archetype, right? You could do that. It
[39:16] Speaker 1: would help him if he was from the Midwest, because Arkansas,
[39:19] Speaker 1: people talk bad about Arkansas. But if he was from
[39:22] Speaker 1: Indiana or Iowa or Kansas or one of those places
[39:26] Speaker 1: and was just out here flopping it, it'd be it'd
[39:29] Speaker 1: be good times for him.
[39:30] Speaker 2: How do you feel if he went like the Justin
[39:33] Speaker 2: Herbert route and like got himself a very famous Madison
[39:36] Speaker 2: beer type like chatting, chatting someone up courtside at a
[39:41] Speaker 2: Lakers game?
[39:42] Speaker 1: Could see that's going to be the key for him
[39:43] Speaker 1: is like what he parlays this into.
[39:46] Speaker 2: Right.
[39:46] Speaker 1: Because like I say, the world right now is his oyster.
[39:51] Speaker 1: There are guys in the NBA that you would know of,
[39:54] Speaker 1: but aren't necessarily top 50, 75 guys. And I know
[39:57] Speaker 1: the people that they's able to get hooked up with.
[39:59] Speaker 1: And I'm talking about black ones. They is able to
[40:01] Speaker 1: get into some places that I'm telling you, Austin Reeves
[40:03] Speaker 1: might be able to put you just show up with
[40:05] Speaker 1: the right car at the mall. And you might have
[40:07] Speaker 1: a chance at making that happen. But right now the Lakers,
[40:10] Speaker 1: the Lakers ain't just had a regular degular white dude
[40:13] Speaker 1: really out here killing it since Jerry West.
[40:16] Speaker 2: Oh, damn.
[40:18] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[40:19] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[40:19] Speaker 1: Like, they was happy about Kurt Rambis.
[40:23] Speaker 2: Well, you said before we started recording of, like, it's
[40:26] Speaker 2: the type of guy who 8-year-old me would own his jersey.
[40:28] Speaker 4: That's right.
[40:29] Speaker 2: That's right. I've been thinking about that for the last
[40:30] Speaker 2: 39 minutes, and it's so true. Like, it's just, like,
[40:35] Speaker 2: so on the nose. Like, when I saw Jon Paxson
[40:38] Speaker 2: as a kid, I was like, I can play in
[40:39] Speaker 2: the NBA?
[40:40] Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like this. You would not just have the jersey.
[40:42] Speaker 1: You would have the jersey because your parents would buy
[40:44] Speaker 1: it for you. Like, that's... You can be anything you
[40:48] Speaker 1: want to be, son.
[40:49] Speaker 2: That's right.
[40:50] Speaker 3: That's right.
[40:51] Speaker 1: Like, Austin Reeves should play for the Patriots. Like, it's
[40:55] Speaker 1: that kind of situation. But he actually, he's good. Like,
[40:58] Speaker 1: I think that's an important thing to know. Like, Alex
[41:00] Speaker 1: Caruso became an interesting case because people couldn't figure out
[41:02] Speaker 1: what to do with, hey, he's an NBA player. Austin
[41:05] Speaker 1: Reeves appears to be a better than average NBA, like, maybe,
[41:10] Speaker 1: you know, 70th percentile NBA player.
[41:15] Speaker 4: Oh, man.
[41:15] Speaker 2: I mean....
[41:17] Speaker 3: I mean, he's putting up 50 points.
[41:18] Speaker 2: I was going to say, I feel like we may
[41:20] Speaker 2: need to go a little higher than the 70th percentile.
[41:23] Speaker 1: Look, man, I got to be careful. I can't get
[41:27] Speaker 1: too wrapped up here, but that's a fair point.
[41:30] Speaker 2: I don't think that 30% of players in the NBA
[41:34] Speaker 2: can drop 50. That's a good question.
[41:38] Speaker 1: Right? Okay, so I don't think 30% of the NBA
[41:40] Speaker 1: could drop 50 and then drop 40 the next night.
[41:44] Speaker 2: Right. That's, I guess that is more accurately what I'm saying. Like,
[41:47] Speaker 2: I think that that is, that is a real amount
[41:50] Speaker 2: of production.
[41:51] Speaker 3: That's fair.
[41:52] Speaker 2: That is just really impressive. I'm not saying he's Donovan Mitchell,
[41:57] Speaker 2: you know, I'm not saying he's that level of score,
[42:00] Speaker 2: but I think, I don't think he's in the 70th
[42:02] Speaker 2: percentile of players. And yeah, like Caruso is an interesting
[42:05] Speaker 2: one too. Like Caruso is excellent at defense and then
[42:10] Speaker 2: he can like do a couple other things. Like But
[42:12] Speaker 2: Alex Caruso is not going to go out there and
[42:14] Speaker 2: go like 30-10-10.
[42:16] Speaker 3: You're correct.
[42:17] Speaker 2: You know, so the white specialist is one thing. Like
[42:21] Speaker 2: the white American all-around hooper. Right. It's a rare breed.
[42:27] Speaker 1: We got a white boy scoring putting up 50, and
[42:30] Speaker 1: we got a white boy playing on the all-defense team.
[42:34] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[42:35] Speaker 1: Hey, man.
[42:37] Speaker 4: And the number one pick. That's right.
[42:39] Speaker 2: That's right. And the number one pick.
[42:40] Speaker 1: Not just the number one pick, but like the number
[42:42] Speaker 1: one pick and everybody sees it.
[42:44] Speaker 3: Look, man, it's been a lot of times that y'all
[42:46] Speaker 3: could have just quit.
[42:47] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
[42:48] Speaker 1: It's been a lot of opportunities that y'all had to
[42:50] Speaker 1: just turn around. The way you've been getting shit on
[42:52] Speaker 1: by all these people and people saying that y'all ain't
[42:54] Speaker 1: got it.
[42:55] Speaker 3: But these cats kept on going. These cats, they kept
[42:57] Speaker 3: on pushing through. You know what I'm saying? In spite
[43:00] Speaker 3: of all the bad influences that was around them.
[43:03] Speaker 2: It's a story of perseverance. It is. Really.
[43:06] Speaker 5: Hey, man.
[43:07] Speaker 2: Look, man.
[43:08] Speaker 3: You got like we always talk.
[43:09] Speaker 1: A guy called my radio show many years ago said
[43:11] Speaker 1: to be as short as a constant fight for credibility.
[43:13] Speaker 3: I don't know if that is the case. And that
[43:15] Speaker 3: is true.
[43:15] Speaker 1: You know, neither of us got to deal with that.
[43:17] Speaker 1: So the rest of y'all, you know, we this is
[43:19] Speaker 1: what we heard about y'all. But at the same time,
[43:22] Speaker 1: it'd be as short as a fight for credibility. I
[43:24] Speaker 1: can't imagine what it is to be a white basketball player.
[43:27] Speaker 2: Hey, wait. Made a fairly popular movie about it.
[43:30] Speaker 4: They did.
[43:31] Speaker 2: White man can't jump. Got the hustle on. You put
[43:34] Speaker 2: a cat in the oven, don't make it a biscuit. Yes.
[43:38] Speaker 3: This is.
[43:39] Speaker 1: It is the wildest thing because white people just gave
[43:43] Speaker 1: up on it. Like, black people at every turn, you
[43:45] Speaker 1: tell us we can't do it.
[43:46] Speaker 2: It'll be a few.
[43:47] Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to use that word right now,
[43:49] Speaker 1: but it'll be a few dissenters that'll be quietly like,
[43:52] Speaker 1: y'all know we can't do that. But at least in
[43:53] Speaker 1: front of people, we're going to be like, hey, we
[43:55] Speaker 1: can do anything the white man can do. White people
[43:57] Speaker 1: don't even try that with a few different things. And
[43:59] Speaker 1: then when you get one.
[44:00] Speaker 2: Get a little bit too excited.
[44:02] Speaker 1: So I kind of feel like right now, it's the nice,
[44:07] Speaker 1: wonderful in-between stage.
[44:11] Speaker 2: Yeah. And again, we're not... You mentioned Linsanity in passing. I...
[44:16] Speaker 2: That is not what is happening with Austin Reeves.
[44:18] Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.
[44:19] Speaker 1: I'm only saying it's insanity in the sense that you
[44:22] Speaker 1: can put up, if you give a guy low expectations
[44:26] Speaker 1: and say the world is yours, that there's a set
[44:29] Speaker 1: of numbers that you could put up that doesn't necessarily
[44:31] Speaker 1: reflect where you stand in the real concept of team basketball.
[44:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, that is totally fair. And I do think that
[44:40] Speaker 2: we're going to get a fairly long runway here. for
[44:44] Speaker 2: Austin Reeves because of the LeBron injury and there'll be
[44:47] Speaker 2: plenty on national TV and playing off of Luca is
[44:50] Speaker 2: a good place to play. Like I, I think, I
[44:52] Speaker 2: think Austin Reeves is in a real nice position to
[44:55] Speaker 2: make an all-star team.
[44:57] Speaker 3: It's on the board.
[44:57] Speaker 1: And let me tell you this, man, if him and
[44:59] Speaker 1: Luca get out there balling together, they're going to be
[45:01] Speaker 1: a movie about starring them about that. They go, the
[45:04] Speaker 1: new lethal weapon is just going to be them or
[45:08] Speaker 1: like Starsky and Hutch.
[45:09] Speaker 2: Well, that's going to be an interesting basketball question in
[45:15] Speaker 2: the post-LeBron world of the Lakers. Like, can that be
[45:19] Speaker 2: your big two?
[45:22] Speaker 3: That will completely change the game.
[45:25] Speaker 1: Like that, that, that'll make me and my people be like,
[45:28] Speaker 1: we lose the country, bro.
[45:29] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[45:30] Speaker 2: There's going to be a, there's going to be a reckoning. Like,
[45:32] Speaker 2: you don't wait. The Lakers don't need a seven foot
[45:35] Speaker 2: center anymore. They need Luca and a guy named Austin
[45:38] Speaker 2: from Arkansas. Yes.
[45:40] Speaker 3: The silver Lake Lakers are in the house.
[45:43] Speaker 1: Right. Before we get out of here, you enjoy engaging
[45:47] Speaker 1: in the gambling a little bit more than I do.
[45:49] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[45:51] Speaker 3: Your top line thoughts of the last week.
[45:54] Speaker 2: Oh, damn, man. Well, Chauncey's in trouble. He's in big trouble.
[46:04] Speaker 2: If it was just the poker side of it, I
[46:11] Speaker 2: wonder if there would be a way to totally prove
[46:14] Speaker 2: that he knew about it and or if he was
[46:17] Speaker 2: just in the pocket of the mob and got in
[46:20] Speaker 2: too deep. But it's the vulnerabilities that are there are obvious.
[46:26] Speaker 2: I do think as the gambler, it is important for
[46:28] Speaker 2: me to make the point that the reason why Jonte
[46:33] Speaker 2: Porter's unders was exposed so quickly or Terry Rozier's unders
[46:37] Speaker 2: was exposed so quickly was because it was legalized. Like
[46:42] Speaker 2: the regulation is what exposed it. You're not betting five figures,
[46:46] Speaker 2: much less six figures on the seventh or eighth guy
[46:49] Speaker 2: on a team's player prop market on a given night.
[46:51] Speaker 2: Like we like to gamble, but we don't like to
[46:53] Speaker 2: gamble that much. So like that, that is a, that
[46:56] Speaker 2: is a stupid crime that those guys committed. Like it
[46:59] Speaker 2: was just, it was, it was a crime of stupidity
[47:02] Speaker 2: because they were obviously going to get caught when they
[47:06] Speaker 2: did that. Um, People say, you know, there's a cost
[47:09] Speaker 2: that comes with these leagues taking the money. And of
[47:13] Speaker 2: course that is true, but I'm not sure that people,
[47:16] Speaker 2: and I know that you do like have a full
[47:18] Speaker 2: grasp of just how much money it is. It it's,
[47:23] Speaker 2: there was a point in time. If you listen to
[47:25] Speaker 2: sports radio, the only thing you heard was car dealership commercials.
[47:31] Speaker 2: And then there was a point in time where it
[47:33] Speaker 2: was like beer distributors and every radio station in every
[47:36] Speaker 2: market in the country, was doing one or two remote
[47:39] Speaker 2: broadcasts a week, and the liquor reps were just paying
[47:43] Speaker 2: five figures in the big markets for you to just
[47:45] Speaker 2: show up with your radio show at bars because they
[47:47] Speaker 2: were just spending money in that way, hand over fist.
[47:50] Speaker 2: That is now the gambling companies. So, like, of course
[47:57] Speaker 2: the leagues are going to take the money. And there's
[47:59] Speaker 2: a cost that comes with it. But they are absolutely
[48:03] Speaker 2: willing to pay the cost because... of the massive amounts
[48:07] Speaker 2: of money that it is. And I know you said
[48:10] Speaker 2: top line thoughts and I've given you like, but like
[48:13] Speaker 2: the other part is, is that the leagues and the
[48:17] Speaker 2: gambling companies, their interests on catching this stuff is a
[48:25] Speaker 2: hundred percent aligned. Like the league doesn't want the integrity
[48:29] Speaker 2: of their games in question. And the gambling sites don't
[48:33] Speaker 2: want to be took for a bunch of money. on
[48:36] Speaker 2: some on some funny bets so like I think there
[48:38] Speaker 2: are some solves for some of it like don't make
[48:42] Speaker 2: player props a two-way market and by that I mean
[48:46] Speaker 2: you can't bet the under like you've got a if
[48:49] Speaker 2: you want to if you want to bet Austin Reeves
[48:51] Speaker 2: points you can't say under 48 and a half you
[48:56] Speaker 2: you've got it's got it's got to just be a
[48:57] Speaker 2: straight over like I think that helps some of it
[49:00] Speaker 2: but this story could have been a lot worse um
[49:05] Speaker 2: And it probably will be at some point. And that's
[49:08] Speaker 2: just the reality. And you can say that that was avoidable,
[49:15] Speaker 2: but Pete Rose was a big story. The Black Sox
[49:18] Speaker 2: were a big story. You know what I mean? Gambling
[49:22] Speaker 2: is something that's happened for forever. Prohibition doesn't work. Legalization, taxation,
[49:27] Speaker 2: regulation is going to catch most of this stuff, but
[49:30] Speaker 2: there will be more controversies that come of it. There's
[49:32] Speaker 2: no question. Yeah, I think they're going to have to
[49:34] Speaker 2: ask themselves the question that a.
[49:36] Speaker 1: Hard ban on gambling from the participants in the league,
[49:41] Speaker 1: because I think to me, the real vulnerability we've talked
[49:43] Speaker 1: about this, so I don't have to go too deep,
[49:45] Speaker 1: is the idea that Chauncey Billings could wind up in
[49:47] Speaker 1: this place is the question that you need to get
[49:50] Speaker 1: to the bottom of and figure out how many more.
[49:52] Speaker 3: I mean, Damon Jones, too.
[49:53] Speaker 2: But like how many? I mean, I guess Terry Rozier. Right.
[49:56] Speaker 3: Like they all have the hallmarks of I owe people
[49:59] Speaker 3: a lot of money.
[50:00] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[50:01] Speaker 2: Gambling is an addiction. But if you even if you said, though, Bo,
[50:05] Speaker 2: you cannot bet you cannot set foot in a casino.
[50:08] Speaker 2: You cannot bet sports, even the sports that you don't play. Man,
[50:13] Speaker 2: you don't think Chauncey Billups can find an offshore bookie
[50:18] Speaker 2: or an underground card game?
[50:19] Speaker 3: You're totally right.
[50:20] Speaker 1: Well, what you would have to do to make it
[50:21] Speaker 1: work is you'd have to make an example out of
[50:24] Speaker 1: a couple of people. and catch somebody and toss them
[50:26] Speaker 1: out the league just for going to a casino or
[50:29] Speaker 1: something made. That's what you would have to do, and
[50:30] Speaker 1: I don't think they're willing to engage in that part.
[50:35] Speaker 1: They're also lucky as of right now. Chauncey Billups is
[50:38] Speaker 1: a pretty big name, but on the player front, it
[50:39] Speaker 1: hasn't been a name that matters. You mess around and
[50:42] Speaker 1: get one of those. Now, that's when they are in trouble,
[50:48] Speaker 1: but I do think that as a media, we are
[50:49] Speaker 1: downplaying this a little bit because it's a little bad
[50:53] Speaker 1: for business to be as honest as we should.
[50:55] Speaker 2: No, listen, I think that there's definitely some truth in that.
[51:02] Speaker 2: Basketball is susceptible to this, but so is tennis.
[51:05] Speaker 1: Yes, but tennis has historically had match fixing.
[51:09] Speaker 2: Match fixing. Yeah, but I guess my point, though, is, man,
[51:15] Speaker 2: if I was a golfer, you can bet on if
[51:19] Speaker 2: I'm going to have over or under 68.5 on my
[51:20] Speaker 2: next round. and if I told my boy to bet
[51:25] Speaker 2: the over, but I felt like I can make the
[51:28] Speaker 2: cut and still shoot a 69 or a 70, but
[51:30] Speaker 2: I can make that extra money on the side. Like,
[51:32] Speaker 2: I think you can do it in any sport and
[51:36] Speaker 2: toothpaste might be out of the tube on this one.
[51:38] Speaker 2: And I, and I know that's fatalistic on some, on
[51:41] Speaker 2: some level, but like, I just think these things are
[51:44] Speaker 2: going to pop up. You're going to have to, I agree,
[51:46] Speaker 2: be very, very harsh in your punishment. I said this,
[51:51] Speaker 2: I think with Colin, Do you think, and it's, I mean,
[51:53] Speaker 2: the guy might go to prison, so it's a different,
[51:55] Speaker 2: it's not high on his list of priorities. You think
[51:57] Speaker 2: they're going to throw Chauncey Billups out of the Hall
[51:58] Speaker 2: of Fame? I don't think they should.
[52:02] Speaker 1: I guess they could, but I just, I don't, I
[52:05] Speaker 1: don't believe in, in Eraser in that way.
[52:08] Speaker 2: Neither do I. You know what I mean?
[52:09] Speaker 1: Like, I don't, I think that would be inappropriate, but
[52:12] Speaker 1: it depends on if somebody wants to grandstand, right?
[52:14] Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm just, you were talking about like,
[52:16] Speaker 2: they have to like really make examples of these people, right?
[52:19] Speaker 2: Like if they really want to say, like just, be
[52:22] Speaker 2: as harsh as you possibly can on all of the
[52:25] Speaker 2: punishments across the board to like really try to be
[52:28] Speaker 2: maximum deterrent. Like, I don't, I don't know. I don't
[52:33] Speaker 2: know what you're going to do because prohibition, like I said,
[52:36] Speaker 2: it doesn't work. It is an addiction. I agree with you.
[52:39] Speaker 2: Like a lot of this stuff reads as like these
[52:41] Speaker 2: guys with all that money still needed money. Yeah.
[52:45] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[52:45] Speaker 1: I need, I need it now. Need it by Friday.
[52:50] Speaker 1: Need it by Friday.
[52:54] Speaker 2: And organized crime. Still in the league. Still in the league.
[52:59] Speaker 1: Everybody's so surprised that organized crime is.
[53:00] Speaker 2: Still in the league.
[53:01] Speaker 1: And I'm like, what do you think they did?
[53:03] Speaker 2: Fold it up? Still in the league.
[53:07] Speaker 1: That concrete don't sell itself. You know what I'm saying?
[53:11] Speaker 1: There are runs of businesses that are theirs.
[53:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, the... I'll paraphrase from the Sopranos, businesses that are recession-proof. Yes.
[53:22] Speaker 2: Some aspects of Hollywood and our thing.
[53:25] Speaker 1: Man, there is a 15-year-old story about the ice cream
[53:30] Speaker 1: truck business in New York City.
[53:33] Speaker 3: And basically, there's Mr.
[53:35] Speaker 1: Softy that everybody knows and there's this other company I
[53:37] Speaker 1: can't remember the name of. But anything that involves just
[53:40] Speaker 1: staking out real estate is very susceptible to criminals because-
[53:45] Speaker 1: The willingness to bust somebody's head in it. Basically, this
[53:48] Speaker 1: company was running Mr. Softee off the block at every turn.
[53:52] Speaker 2: Mr.
[53:52] Speaker 1: Softee was hitting their people like, yo, why you why
[53:55] Speaker 1: you leave it?
[53:55] Speaker 3: And they're like, you go stand out there.
[53:57] Speaker 1: Right. And it was very clear that like, oh, a
[54:00] Speaker 1: syndicate of some sort is running the ice cream game.
[54:03] Speaker 1: All I'm saying is.
[54:04] Speaker 3: There are a lot of games that they why would
[54:08] Speaker 3: they give them up? Why would they stop?
[54:10] Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying that every place that is
[54:13] Speaker 2: like this has that element to it, but cash businesses,
[54:16] Speaker 2: you ever go to a restaurant and they're like, cash only? Yes.
[54:19] Speaker 2: You're like, cash only? Yes. In 2025? All right, you're
[54:24] Speaker 2: not reporting everything on the books.
[54:25] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, cash only, cash only. Cash in the bag, B,
[54:29] Speaker 3: cash in the bag.
[54:30] Speaker 1: That is Danny Park. Let's check him out on FS1,
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[54:37] Speaker 3: My brother, I appreciate you.
[54:39] Speaker 2: Anytime, Bo. Thanks, man. All right, man.
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[54:49] Speaker 3: Thank you, sir.
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