# Domonique Foxworth on Jalen Hurts OUT, The absurd Brian Flores report, Cowboys in Crisis | 10.15

An episode of [The Right Time with Bomani Jones](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/982639043), 15 Oct 2026, 1 h 02 min.

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After quickly reacting to the news of Jalen Hurts being out of this Sunday's game, Bomani Jones is joined by Domonique Foxworth for another edition of Foxworth Friday.... Somewhere! The guys break down the shocking details revealed in leaked documents from Brian Flores' lawsuit against the NFL, including a controversial scouting report that raises serious questions about race and the league's hiring practices. Download the PrizePicks app today and use code BOMANI to get $150 instantly in Lineups if you win your first $5 Lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/BOMANI They also discuss the Dallas Cowboys' defensive struggles and whether a players-only meeting can save their season, Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders' costly mistakes, and why Jalen Carter remains one of the NFL's most fascinating talents. Plus, Bomani and Domonique examine the scrutiny surrounding Jayden Daniels and the Commanders after their late-game collapse, and whether the winless Los Angeles Chargers are headed for major changes if their season continues to spiral. The guys also debate the Packers' playoff chances, the Texans' potential turnaround, Ryan Day's handling of Ohio State's NFL talent, and whether Jared Goff deserves serious MVP consideration. Cardiff: Get same-day business funding up to $500,000 with a quick 3-minute application and no personal credit impact ($12B+ funded) https://cardiff.co/TRT See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:05] Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to the right time.
[0:06] Speaker 2: We got Dominique Foxworth on right after this. After we
[0:09] Speaker 2: had taped, we got the news that Jalen Hurts is
[0:12] Speaker 2: going to be out this week playing against the Panthers.
[0:16] Speaker 2: That's who they're playing against. We thought they was going
[0:18] Speaker 2: to lose anyway, but he has, Ryan, it's called a
[0:21] Speaker 2: superficial blood clot.
[0:22] Speaker 3: Superficial blood clot in his calf. All right.
[0:25] Speaker 1: I don't really know what that means. I just know, man,
[0:27] Speaker 1: they are cooked, Jack.
[0:29] Speaker 3: They're cooked. Potentially no Jalen Hurts. No Jalen Hurts. Jalen
[0:33] Speaker 3: Hurts is out. Potentially no Devonta Smith and Saquon Barkley
[0:35] Speaker 3: this week.
[0:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, and Landon Dickerson. Is he back?
[0:38] Speaker 2: I mean, I know he said something about how they
[0:40] Speaker 2: need to go talk to Howie and Nick about his contract.
[0:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, Lane Johnson on the roster, even though he said
[0:46] Speaker 3: he retired.
[0:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, we got that situation.
[0:49] Speaker 2: Hey, man, along with everybody else being hurt in some
[0:53] Speaker 2: form or fashion with that team. So how funny would
[0:56] Speaker 2: it be if the Eagles won? Like we're saying they're cooked.
[0:59] Speaker 2: Can you imagine how much it would suck to be
[1:00] Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts? Who is that they bring it out? Is
[1:02] Speaker 2: that Tanner McKee?
[1:03] Speaker 3: It is Tanner McKee.
[1:04] Speaker 2: Wow.
[1:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:06] Speaker 2: The name Tanner McKee sounds like 13 for 29 for
[1:11] Speaker 2: 111 yards with a touchdown and three interceptions. There's a
[1:15] Speaker 2: classic backup quarterback line. That's what he's got there. They're
[1:18] Speaker 2: having a rough year, man.
[1:22] Speaker 1: I think that's all we got. That's it.
[1:24] Speaker 3: Damn.
[1:25] Speaker 1: Just wanted to make sure you guys knew that we
[1:26] Speaker 1: knew that Jalen Hurts was....
[1:30] Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time presented by PrizePix.
[1:34] Speaker 2: My name is Beaumontie Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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[1:41] Speaker 2: rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only
[1:43] Speaker 2: give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are
[1:45] Speaker 2: a hater. It is Fox Word Friday somewhere. Dominique Fosworth,
[1:51] Speaker 2: what's going on?
[1:52] Speaker 1: What's up, brother?
[1:53] Speaker 2: Yo, shout out to whoever, I forget who it was
[1:55] Speaker 2: that cooked that one up, but that was a winner.
[1:57] Speaker 1: It's Fosworth Friday somewhere. We get to retain the alliteration
[2:01] Speaker 1: while also being a little clever and cheeky. You know
[2:04] Speaker 1: what I'm saying?
[2:05] Speaker 4: Where is it Friday, though?
[2:07] Speaker 2: That is a great question that I will now ask
[2:11] Speaker 2: the computer.
[2:12] Speaker 1: Where is it Friday?
[2:13] Speaker 4: Because somebody, there is a country somewhere that is still
[2:17] Speaker 4: experiencing this, and it's.
[2:18] Speaker 1: Like, why is he saying it's not Friday?
[2:20] Speaker 2: I will say this, that if I'm not mistaken, at
[2:22] Speaker 2: this moment, it's like 11.30 p.m. in Vietnam, but it
[2:26] Speaker 2: says that right now it is Friday in.
[2:32] Speaker 2: The eastern part of Australia, New Zealand, some of Russia,
[2:37] Speaker 2: and some of them little islands like Fiji.
[2:41] Speaker 1: And when you release this, it'll be Friday more places.
[2:44] Speaker 1: That's right. It'll be Friday more. I think we need
[2:46] Speaker 1: to recommit. Right.
[2:48] Speaker 2: It's Foxworth Friday in Asia. That's what it is. We
[2:53] Speaker 2: got y'all out. Thank you for saving our country. You
[2:56] Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? All you boys over there in Okinawa,
[3:01] Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? Over there in Korea, making
[3:04] Speaker 2: sure that nobody step too far over the line.
[3:08] Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying? Yeah, they holding down that DMZ.
[3:11] Speaker 2: Hold it down.
[3:11] Speaker 1: That's right. That's right. Shout out.
[3:13] Speaker 2: No, I was going to say shout out to somebody
[3:15] Speaker 2: that it don't even really apply to.
[3:18] Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to educate ourselves a little more on
[3:21] Speaker 4: all of that.
[3:21] Speaker 1: I got to be a little closer. Shout out to me,
[3:23] Speaker 1: the cops.
[3:25] Speaker 4: There we go.
[3:25] Speaker 1: There we go. There we go. I was about to
[3:28] Speaker 1: say they all be on soccer, but I'm like, nope, nope, nope, nope.
[3:31] Speaker 1: They met in school. And they met in school. Like,
[3:33] Speaker 1: Japanese could have worked. We'd be over there, too.
[3:36] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[3:36] Speaker 1: You know?
[3:36] Speaker 2: I mean, after we told them y'all can't have no army,
[3:39] Speaker 2: the least you could do is let them borrow yours.
[3:42] Speaker 4: I mean, I guess when you drop an atomic bomb
[3:45] Speaker 4: on somebody, they got to agree to whatever. Hold on.
[3:47] Speaker 5: Hold on.
[3:48] Speaker 1: Dominique.
[3:50] Speaker 4: Two of them.
[3:51] Speaker 1: Two Atomic Bombs.
[3:52] Speaker 2: Yes.
[3:52] Speaker 1: I apologize.
[3:54] Speaker 2: Fuck.
[3:55] Speaker 1: That shit's crazy. That really is crazy to look back on.
[3:59] Speaker 1: They were like, whoa, that was crazy. Get the big one. That.
[4:06] Speaker 4: Who.
[4:09] Speaker 1: We got football coming up.
[4:11] Speaker 4: We do.
[4:11] Speaker 1: We do. And we're going to talk about the upcoming football.
[4:14] Speaker 2: But it's a couple of football things that have happened
[4:16] Speaker 2: this week that I want to talk about. And the
[4:19] Speaker 2: first one is one that I haven't seen that many
[4:22] Speaker 2: people talk about on television this week.
[4:25] Speaker 1: And it's kind of a big one.
[4:26] Speaker 2: And it is these documents that got leaked from the
[4:29] Speaker 2: Brian Flores lawsuit. Now.
[4:33] Speaker 1: You and I have talked about this. I say it
[4:34] Speaker 1: on here.
[4:35] Speaker 2: I don't want to say it's complicated for me in
[4:38] Speaker 2: real life, but there is like a bottom line for me,
[4:41] Speaker 2: which is I don't care what they come up with.
[4:44] Speaker 1: I would not hire Brian Flores under any circumstance. However,
[4:47] Speaker 1: somebody would.
[4:48] Speaker 2: One would think in theory he's really, really good at
[4:51] Speaker 2: being the head coach of the defense right now. They
[4:53] Speaker 2: won more games in Miami than anybody would have expected, right?
[4:58] Speaker 2: It's reasonable that somebody, even if he is a big
[5:01] Speaker 2: old jerk, pop up with the allegations of the schism.
[5:04] Speaker 2: And then we got some schism paperwork. And this is
[5:06] Speaker 2: the part that jumped out of this memo.
[5:08] Speaker 1: And it was from a search firm.
[5:10] Speaker 2: The search firm was working for the Raiders as they
[5:13] Speaker 2: were evaluating Flores. Obviously, the Raiders did not hire him
[5:16] Speaker 2: to be their head coach. And this is what it says.
[5:19] Speaker 2: Polished and a good presenter. despite growing up in Brownsville, Brooklyn, parentheses,
[5:28] Speaker 2: same as Mike Tyson. He was able to build a
[5:31] Speaker 2: strong friendship with a billionaire son, which gave him opportunities
[5:35] Speaker 2: to socialize and learn how to build relationships with white-collar
[5:39] Speaker 2: and upper-class individuals. Okay, I have a couple of points
[5:43] Speaker 2: to make on that part. Number one, it is amazing
[5:48] Speaker 2: how phrasing And people trusting you can allow you to
[5:51] Speaker 2: say certain things. Because one of the things that I
[5:53] Speaker 2: absolutely pointed out about Flores when this lawsuit came down,
[5:56] Speaker 2: and this is something you don't really catch until you
[5:58] Speaker 2: live here for a while, which is these boys wind
[6:01] Speaker 2: up going to these private schools. And you never know
[6:03] Speaker 2: what friends they have. You never know what game they
[6:06] Speaker 2: managed to pick up. They know somebody like Brian Flores,
[6:09] Speaker 2: who I think went to poly prep. He knows some people,
[6:13] Speaker 2: and he figured out some things, right? However, this right
[6:16] Speaker 2: here doesn't sound no different than when Danny Ferry said
[6:19] Speaker 2: Luol Deng had a lot of African in him still, right?
[6:22] Speaker 2: Which is to say, these cats was like, hey, hey, hey,
[6:26] Speaker 2: he talk a good game, but don't get it twisted.
[6:29] Speaker 1: He still wanted him.
[6:32] Speaker 2: And that is, why would you write that down? Danny
[6:36] Speaker 2: Ferry didn't even.
[6:37] Speaker 1: Write it down. Somebody was taping him, and he didn't
[6:39] Speaker 1: even know it.
[6:41] Speaker 4: I have... There's so many things that jump out from
[6:43] Speaker 4: this to me. I don't even know where to start,
[6:46] Speaker 4: but obviously... None of this stuff is surprising except for
[6:52] Speaker 4: that they wrote it down. And because like the unique
[6:56] Speaker 4: experience and I know we we have this belief that
[6:59] Speaker 4: anybody can make it to anywhere from in America. And
[7:04] Speaker 4: it's but it's still really rare to jump the socioeconomic
[7:08] Speaker 4: the number of socioeconomic classes.
[7:10] Speaker 1: As I have or have.
[7:12] Speaker 4: Or other like athletes and entertainers and stuff like that.
[7:15] Speaker 4: Like climbing the ladder is not a thing that really happens.
[7:18] Speaker 4: Like you don't, you don't do the Calvin where you,
[7:21] Speaker 4: you first are cooking fries and next thing you know, you,
[7:24] Speaker 4: you own a bunch of franchises.
[7:25] Speaker 1: Like that's not, it happens, but it's not something that
[7:28] Speaker 1: happens regularly. Now I'm washing lettuce. Yeah. I say, was
[7:34] Speaker 1: it Calvin? I think it was Calvin.
[7:36] Speaker 2: Calvin was the McDonald's commercial, but Coming to America, which,
[7:40] Speaker 2: by the way, let you know what happens to the
[7:42] Speaker 2: white dudes, too. I started off on floors just like you.
[7:45] Speaker 2: Now I'm washing lettuce.
[7:49] Speaker 1: I mean, that's a... It happens to white dudes, too,
[7:52] Speaker 1: is a good thing.
[7:53] Speaker 4: Because, like, I... I feel like I have learned so
[7:57] Speaker 4: much about the way things actually work because I believe
[8:02] Speaker 4: I was like naive and the.
[8:04] Speaker 1: Whole hard work, work your way up bootstraps.
[8:07] Speaker 4: Like I wasn't someone who would preach that, but I
[8:09] Speaker 4: was like naive to believe that it was possible because
[8:12] Speaker 4: like my unique experience. And then I got older and
[8:16] Speaker 4: looked around and was like, no matter how hard anybody worked,
[8:20] Speaker 4: they couldn't have done what I did unless they were
[8:23] Speaker 4: bored with some of the things that I had.
[8:25] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[8:25] Speaker 4: And then once I like get out of school or
[8:29] Speaker 4: get out of football and go to business school and
[8:30] Speaker 4: then get out into the professional world, I start to
[8:33] Speaker 4: realize how important relationships are, which prior to that, because
[8:36] Speaker 4: I grew up in football, I'm like the best man.
[8:39] Speaker 1: You just got to be good.
[8:39] Speaker 4: Like, yeah, there's some politics, but if you can run
[8:42] Speaker 4: a full three, they're going to find you and somebody
[8:43] Speaker 4: going to give you a check.
[8:45] Speaker 1: Like, right.
[8:46] Speaker 4: And then you learn about all this other stuff and
[8:48] Speaker 4: then they put it normally.
[8:50] Speaker 1: No one says it explicitly.
[8:51] Speaker 4: But that line is something that a lot of people
[8:54] Speaker 4: live by and think about and care about is like,
[8:57] Speaker 4: all right. Essentially, what they're saying is he wanted them,
[9:01] Speaker 4: but he know how to act right. Yeah. Right.
[9:03] Speaker 1: But I guess.
[9:03] Speaker 2: But actually, is it he's one of them, but he
[9:07] Speaker 2: knows how to act right or he knows how to
[9:09] Speaker 2: act right?
[9:10] Speaker 1: Yeah. But he's one of them.
[9:12] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[9:13] Speaker 1: I took it as the latter.
[9:15] Speaker 6: Right.
[9:15] Speaker 1: But I guess my point is that stuff always exists.
[9:18] Speaker 1: You don't put it in writing.
[9:20] Speaker 4: And, you know, if you understand, because I feel like
[9:23] Speaker 4: I look back on a lot of conversations I had
[9:25] Speaker 4: in my life and people were speaking a different language
[9:27] Speaker 4: than I understood. If you understand a language, someone will
[9:30] Speaker 4: make it clear to you that he wanted him. but
[9:34] Speaker 4: he know how to act or he know how to
[9:36] Speaker 4: act but he wanted them they'll make it clear to
[9:38] Speaker 4: you it's some other terminology that's not.
[9:41] Speaker 6: As explicit as that they're like even despite being from
[9:46] Speaker 6: brownsville and then the wording like are you saying that
[9:49] Speaker 6: mike tyson is from brownsville or mike tyson know how
[9:54] Speaker 6: to act it's a little confusing.
[9:57] Speaker 2: So i will also make a point that they got
[10:00] Speaker 2: one of the people from the Dolphins and this is
[10:01] Speaker 2: where I think it's going to get the Dolphins in
[10:03] Speaker 2: trouble is the dude that was like he's the worst
[10:04] Speaker 2: hire we ever made or one of the worst hires
[10:07] Speaker 2: that we ever made which I don't think you're allowed
[10:09] Speaker 2: to tell people when they call you about a job
[10:11] Speaker 2: like it doesn't matter if it's true you're just supposed
[10:13] Speaker 2: to be like hey man I don't even know what
[10:15] Speaker 2: to tell you big dog you're not supposed to say
[10:18] Speaker 2: that part I will say though it seemed that did
[10:22] Speaker 2: not seem like they were saying that because he was black.
[10:24] Speaker 2: It sounded like they were saying that because they really
[10:26] Speaker 2: didn't like him. Omar Kelly from Miami Herald, he's been
[10:29] Speaker 2: very clear about this on Twitter. He's like, hey, man,
[10:32] Speaker 2: he doesn't know how to talk to people. That seems
[10:36] Speaker 2: to be his issue is he doesn't know how to
[10:38] Speaker 2: talk to people. But I would like to take a
[10:40] Speaker 2: brief moment to say this about Brownsville, Brooklyn. I don't
[10:43] Speaker 2: know if you have ever looked at the notable people
[10:45] Speaker 2: section for Brownsville, Brooklyn, but there are very few things
[10:48] Speaker 2: that are more entertaining to me Then when you go
[10:51] Speaker 2: to the notable peoples of a place that clearly experience
[10:55] Speaker 2: a measure of white flight, like it's like Aliquippa, Pennsylvania,
[10:59] Speaker 2: where Mike Ditka and Pistol Pete were from. But so
[11:01] Speaker 2: was Darrell Rivas and Sean Gilbert, Tony Dorsett, all those guys.
[11:05] Speaker 2: And you can kind of go through and peep the day.
[11:08] Speaker 2: This is listed in alphabetical order. So I am just
[11:11] Speaker 2: going to just rattle off names to you from Brownsville, Brooklyn,
[11:15] Speaker 2: and let you know. A documentary on Brownsville, Brooklyn might
[11:19] Speaker 2: be totally fascinating. For those of you who don't know,
[11:21] Speaker 2: you may hear a lot about gentrification in Brooklyn. Maybe
[11:24] Speaker 2: they got to Brownsville. I find it highly unlikely. That's
[11:30] Speaker 2: where M.O.P. is from, that is where Mike Tyson's from.
[11:32] Speaker 2: You get to East New York, like you get to
[11:34] Speaker 2: the Eddie Up All-Stars out there.
[11:36] Speaker 1: It's way out there. Here are the people that Brownsville,
[11:39] Speaker 1: Brooklyn has produced, going somewhat in alphabetical order, because I
[11:43] Speaker 1: would not have started this list with Master Ace, but
[11:46] Speaker 1: I guess they think that Ace is Master Ace's last name,
[11:49] Speaker 1: so it starts with Master Ace. Master Ace. Born to roll,
[11:54] Speaker 1: Master Ace, just for those who don't know.
[11:56] Speaker 2: Lyle Alzado. Mayor Eric Adams. Riddick Bowe. Shannon Briggs. Andrew
[12:07] Speaker 2: Dice Clay.
[12:09] Speaker 1: We weren't expecting that one, were you? Five-ish Finkel from
[12:13] Speaker 1: the television show Picket Fences. Brian Flores. John Forte, former,
[12:22] Speaker 1: used to rap with the Fugees.
[12:23] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[12:24] Speaker 1: And, you know, did a little time.
[12:25] Speaker 2: But another one of those guys, because if I'm not mistaken,
[12:28] Speaker 2: it was Carly Simon who bailed him out of jail
[12:30] Speaker 2: because he went to prep school with her kids. Told you,
[12:34] Speaker 2: the New York dudes, man, you never know. World Be Free.
[12:38] Speaker 2: Nelson George. Marty Glickman. Arnold Greenberg, the co-founder of Snapple.
[12:46] Speaker 2: Henry Hill. Of Goodfellas fame.
[12:49] Speaker 1: Yeah. Red Holzman. Moe, Curly, and Shemp. But not Larry.
[12:57] Speaker 1: Of the Three Stooges. Zab Judah. Oh, they got a
[13:03] Speaker 1: lot of fighters. Well, that should tell you something. Big
[13:08] Speaker 1: Daddy Kane. This is why they scared Brian Flores.
[13:12] Speaker 2: Big Daddy Kane. Larry King. Meyer Lansky. And yes, we're
[13:19] Speaker 2: only at the L's. M.O.P., O.G.C., Helter Skelter, Willie Randolph,
[13:28] Speaker 2: former second baseman of the Yankees, longtime MLB manager, the RZA,
[13:35] Speaker 2: Al Sharpton, Allie Sherman, Hall of Fame NFL coach, Jimmy
[13:42] Speaker 2: Smits from L.A.
[13:43] Speaker 1: Law at NYPD Blue, Bernadette Stannis. What movie was that?
[13:48] Speaker 1: Pink Cadillac. That's what she was in. A rapper named
[13:52] Speaker 1: Sparky D.
[13:53] Speaker 2: Nice. Mike Tyson. Pearl Washington. Otis Wilson of the 85 Bears.
[14:00] Speaker 2: And last but not least, Howard Zinn.
[14:02] Speaker 1: Note of history. He could have said Brian Flores was
[14:05] Speaker 1: from there. Like, Howard Zinn. They had all these options.
[14:10] Speaker 1: He could have been just like Larry King. That's why
[14:12] Speaker 1: he talks so good. That was the option. Nope. Mike Tyson.
[14:17] Speaker 4: That's bad. Larry is from Philadelphia, by the way, in
[14:21] Speaker 4: case you were wondering.
[14:22] Speaker 6: Oh.
[14:22] Speaker 4: Of the Three Stooges.
[14:23] Speaker 3: Wow.
[14:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
[14:24] Speaker 2: That's right, because they dropped Shemp and picked up Larry.
[14:29] Speaker 2: I wonder if Schimpf was bitter about that.
[14:31] Speaker 4: How could you not be? I can't look up and
[14:36] Speaker 4: see that. How big of stars were they back then?
[14:39] Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that we know about them to
[14:41] Speaker 1: this day.
[14:42] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. It must have been huge. They
[14:44] Speaker 4: were like Miley Cyrus or bigger than that. I was
[14:47] Speaker 4: thinking about Taylor Swift. That's the name that I meant,
[14:50] Speaker 4: but the other one came out. My bad.
[14:52] Speaker 2: Hold on.
[14:52] Speaker 1: No, no. This is interesting.
[14:54] Speaker 4: Damn.
[14:55] Speaker 1: Curly died before he turned 50? Yeah.
[14:58] Speaker 2: Shemp died at night. Oh, Curly and Shemp were brothers.
[15:01] Speaker 2: I wonder if Shemp was like, you know, like not
[15:05] Speaker 2: showing up on time.
[15:08] Speaker 4: Of all the surprising places that these shows end up,
[15:13] Speaker 4: Three Stooges? Yes. I was not expecting three Stooges analysis
[15:17] Speaker 4: this morning.
[15:18] Speaker 1: Shemp went solo. He had a contract dispute, and he
[15:21] Speaker 1: went solo. Shemp to Bobby Brown. Under three Stooges. Too
[15:29] Speaker 1: hot to handle, too cold to hold.
[15:31] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[15:32] Speaker 1: You know? The Bobby Brown.
[15:35] Speaker 4: The other thing about the Brian Flores part is I
[15:39] Speaker 4: find myself not as... gung-ho as i used to be
[15:45] Speaker 4: about he black we gotta we gotta look like you
[15:50] Speaker 4: gotta get it done because i feel less good about
[15:55] Speaker 4: people making it that i or individuals reaching some higher
[16:00] Speaker 4: playing than i do about like something more, I don't know,
[16:05] Speaker 4: something more systemic as far as addressing this. I feel
[16:08] Speaker 4: less like I was in Denver when Obama was running.
[16:12] Speaker 4: That felt like something. I was like, oh, we doing,
[16:14] Speaker 4: it felt like we a part of the civil rights movement.
[16:17] Speaker 4: And then you look up and like, nah. Like, That
[16:21] Speaker 4: was tight for Barack.
[16:22] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[16:23] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[16:23] Speaker 2: Now, I also want to be clear about something, though,
[16:25] Speaker 2: with Flores that I do think is important.
[16:27] Speaker 1: It does seem clear that they was messing with him. Yeah.
[16:31] Speaker 4: Right.
[16:33] Speaker 2: Like there's there's no. And that's the part that matters there.
[16:37] Speaker 2: He's not the only jerk that's out there. There are
[16:39] Speaker 2: other jerks. There are other jerks that get jobs and
[16:42] Speaker 2: very few have demonstrated themselves to be as accomplished as him.
[16:45] Speaker 2: He's the only guy to leave that Belichick nest. And
[16:49] Speaker 2: make something of himself, really. Other than Nick Saban. Who
[16:53] Speaker 2: can you think of from the Patriots time that you
[16:55] Speaker 2: really look at? Does Bill O'Brien count? I guess he
[16:58] Speaker 2: wasn't bad. He was okay.
[17:01] Speaker 4: I think some people will give him Vrabel, even though
[17:05] Speaker 4: he's not technically part of the coaching tree. But he's
[17:08] Speaker 4: really never developed, which makes you want to re-inspect that dynasty.
[17:13] Speaker 4: It's like, how? How would nobody come out of there
[17:15] Speaker 4: and be any good?
[17:16] Speaker 1: Well, maybe, just maybe, Bill Belichick is just that cold.
[17:20] Speaker 2: The other argument, of course, is Tom Brady's just that cold,
[17:22] Speaker 2: but I saw what it was before Brady became Brady.
[17:25] Speaker 2: Belichick might just really be that dude.
[17:28] Speaker 4: I don't mean that to say that we should reinspect
[17:32] Speaker 4: it like being more judgmental. I mean that to say
[17:35] Speaker 4: it might be more interesting because we throw it in
[17:37] Speaker 4: there as a dynasty like the other ones, but all
[17:40] Speaker 4: the other dynasties had like offshoots. Like if you think
[17:43] Speaker 4: of the 49ers and the Cowboys, those, they had coaches
[17:47] Speaker 4: and like the whole NFL, like the Denver Broncos and
[17:51] Speaker 4: the way everyone plays offense today is all like derivative
[17:56] Speaker 4: of like Bill Walsh and Mike Shanahan and like all
[17:59] Speaker 4: that stuff. Like you can find, you can still find
[18:01] Speaker 4: people who reference like the old Cowboys and how they
[18:04] Speaker 4: do things like right down to the, the way you
[18:06] Speaker 4: value draft picks like that. There's nothing like that from Belichick, right?
[18:11] Speaker 1: That is interesting.
[18:12] Speaker 4: Get your quarterback to take a discount? What's the lasting
[18:15] Speaker 4: principle that you got from this? It's like get out
[18:18] Speaker 4: of contracts early maybe?
[18:19] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[18:19] Speaker 2: Well, I guess part of the problem with your style
[18:22] Speaker 2: is I have no style, is that you have no style,
[18:24] Speaker 2: and so nobody necessarily jumps on and adapts.
[18:27] Speaker 1: But you're right.
[18:27] Speaker 2: There is, and I guess people who are a little
[18:29] Speaker 2: more football nerdy than me, like what's the style? What
[18:32] Speaker 2: is the thing that people look at and say that's
[18:33] Speaker 2: the Bill Belichick impact?
[18:35] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[18:36] Speaker 4: I mean, I guess maybe it is just the flexibility
[18:38] Speaker 4: and adaptability that they show. Maybe the fact that there
[18:40] Speaker 4: is no style.
[18:41] Speaker 1: Some shit that can't nobody else do.
[18:43] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[18:44] Speaker 1: Right.
[18:44] Speaker 2: Like that's that's what it comes down to is. Yeah,
[18:47] Speaker 2: you could try it. You know, speaking of things that
[18:51] Speaker 2: you could try. Cowboys are trying something that everybody seems
[18:55] Speaker 2: to try, at least at some point.
[18:57] Speaker 1: And I'm actually thinking about this.
[18:58] Speaker 2: Dominique, I feel like you may not have ever been
[19:00] Speaker 2: in one of these because you made a point of this.
[19:03] Speaker 2: Dominique is like, I have always been on good teams.
[19:07] Speaker 2: And since he's always been on good teams, that means
[19:10] Speaker 2: that Dominique has never had to attend.
[19:14] Speaker 1: A players only meeting.
[19:17] Speaker 2: Those of you who go back to the right time
[19:19] Speaker 2: from when we was on the radio know me and
[19:21] Speaker 2: Shannon love nothing more than when the word gets out
[19:25] Speaker 2: that it is a players-only meeting. Has the players only
[19:32] Speaker 2: meeting ever fixed the problem? And by the way, it's
[19:35] Speaker 2: the Cowboys defense.
[19:37] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[19:37] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[19:38] Speaker 4: I've been fortunate not to be at a players only
[19:40] Speaker 4: meeting and it is the Cowboys defense. That is the problem.
[19:43] Speaker 4: And last week, the offense didn't show up, but I
[19:46] Speaker 4: think that happens from time to time. You can get
[19:48] Speaker 4: over it, but when it rains, it pulls. like you
[19:51] Speaker 4: mentioned I've never been in one of those like serious
[19:53] Speaker 4: players only meetings about the season I've been in players
[19:56] Speaker 4: only meetings about beef where there was like a locker
[19:59] Speaker 4: room where they're like, let's get together and let's clear
[20:01] Speaker 4: the air. Right. That sort of thing. And it's like
[20:04] Speaker 4: a position only if you have some issue within your position.
[20:07] Speaker 4: So like, that's not something that goes away and their
[20:09] Speaker 4: fights and all that sort of stuff.
[20:11] Speaker 1: Sometimes the players only meeting, but it's.
[20:14] Speaker 4: The problem is it's the, the effort is to address
[20:18] Speaker 4: something in one day that you've had a problem with
[20:21] Speaker 4: for many days now, and it goes all the way
[20:24] Speaker 4: back and you can't really fix it because all that
[20:26] Speaker 4: the players only meeting is about is like, let's recommit,
[20:29] Speaker 4: let's address the culture. Like, don't give up on the season.
[20:34] Speaker 4: We need to be in early and out late. Like,
[20:36] Speaker 4: this is our lives that are on the line here.
[20:38] Speaker 4: Our livelihood that's on the line here. Fuck them coaches.
[20:41] Speaker 4: They're going to work somewhere else. I don't care. They
[20:44] Speaker 4: all got friends. They'll be fine. This is on us.
[20:46] Speaker 4: We don't know what they're doing, what they're not doing,
[20:48] Speaker 4: but we got to get this right. This is all
[20:50] Speaker 4: we care about. You put film out there. This is
[20:52] Speaker 4: the guy.
[20:52] Speaker 1: Like, it's all that stuff. And it's like, you know what?
[20:56] Speaker 1: This is stuff we should have been doing.
[20:58] Speaker 4: It's gotten out of hand. It's a problem now. It's
[21:00] Speaker 4: like a it's a cultural thing.
[21:03] Speaker 2: Right.
[21:04] Speaker 4: Which you feel like can't be changed in one night.
[21:06] Speaker 4: But sometimes I think the best move or the outcome
[21:09] Speaker 4: of players only meetings in like hiring a new coach
[21:13] Speaker 4: or firing a coach is like it gives you a
[21:16] Speaker 4: reason to believe. For a second, it's like, oh, now
[21:20] Speaker 4: we got Petten up in here. Things are going to
[21:21] Speaker 4: be better, right? Oh, we traded for Quinn and Williams
[21:24] Speaker 4: last year.
[21:25] Speaker 1: Things are going to be better.
[21:26] Speaker 4: And I think oftentimes things.
[21:27] Speaker 1: Do get better for a week or two.
[21:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the players-only meeting is either the
[21:34] Speaker 2: best news that a coach can get or the worst
[21:37] Speaker 2: news that a coach can get.
[21:38] Speaker 4: Oh, hold on. Let me cut you off right there.
[21:41] Speaker 3: News.
[21:43] Speaker 4: I'm not sure that all players-only meetings– Or not.
[21:47] Speaker 1: It's sent from upstairs.
[21:48] Speaker 4: Yeah. I think sometimes it's like we can't get through
[21:51] Speaker 4: to them. Hey, big dog. It's time to press that button.
[21:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And so that's a great point, right? So
[22:00] Speaker 1: let's look at it.
[22:03] Speaker 2: For purposes of this discussion, we will start with an
[22:06] Speaker 2: assumption that this came from the players themselves.
[22:10] Speaker 1: Okay? Either A, as coach.
[22:15] Speaker 2: You've done what you were supposed to do, and now
[22:17] Speaker 2: they got to be accountable and take care of things,
[22:20] Speaker 2: and you're glad that they are showing that level of responsibility.
[22:24] Speaker 1: Or option B, it is the player saying, what'd he know?
[22:29] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[22:29] Speaker 2: And that's the worry that you have because they win
[22:31] Speaker 2: a guy. So the Cowboys have a first-year defensive coordinator
[22:34] Speaker 2: named Christian Parker.
[22:35] Speaker 1: And, you know, to be honest, room for the brother.
[22:38] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, this is
[22:41] Speaker 1: your chance, you know?
[22:43] Speaker 2: They win a guy, Mike Pettin, who is a very
[22:46] Speaker 2: interesting guy because he had spent two years as the
[22:49] Speaker 2: head coach for the Browns and said, I never want
[22:51] Speaker 2: to do that ever again. Very well-regarded defensive mind. And
[22:55] Speaker 2: they brought him in to help out Christian Parker, which
[22:57] Speaker 2: I think is a cool thing. I don't look at
[23:01] Speaker 2: that as a bad sign for Parker as much as
[23:03] Speaker 2: I think a lot of other people do.
[23:05] Speaker 1: He's new to the gig.
[23:06] Speaker 2: Apparently, if they see that he's struggling in some way,
[23:08] Speaker 2: I'd much rather the team say they're doing something to
[23:10] Speaker 2: support him rather than to just completely bail on him
[23:14] Speaker 2: under these circumstances.
[23:16] Speaker 1: I get that. However, yeah.
[23:20] Speaker 2: They're also saying that they are saying it's your fault.
[23:24] Speaker 2: And the players taking this to players only is saying
[23:27] Speaker 2: maybe he'll be able to help us. But right now
[23:29] Speaker 2: he can't and he ain't.
[23:31] Speaker 4: I think that where I slightly disagree with you is
[23:35] Speaker 4: I get your point. And the problem is for him,
[23:41] Speaker 4: they've determined that this to me suggests we can't start
[23:45] Speaker 4: over right now, but we're going to start over soon.
[23:49] Speaker 4: So like the problem with bringing Mike Patton in is
[23:53] Speaker 4: best case scenario.
[23:56] Speaker 1: Shit solved.
[23:57] Speaker 4: Yep.
[23:57] Speaker 1: And who gets the credit? What are you here for? Right. Why?
[24:02] Speaker 1: Why are we paying you more than we paying him?
[24:04] Speaker 1: Why are you even here?
[24:06] Speaker 4: Right. So like there's he's still in it. And if
[24:09] Speaker 4: shit don't get better, Patton, Patton in a good spot.
[24:13] Speaker 4: Shit don't get better. Well, it's because I wasn't here
[24:16] Speaker 4: during training camp. He was teaching my principles. He just
[24:20] Speaker 4: ain't have me here to make sure. So why don't
[24:23] Speaker 4: you hand that on over to your boy? Like that
[24:25] Speaker 4: to me, that's a bad spot for him to be in.
[24:28] Speaker 2: Remember when the Milwaukee Bucks was asking Doc Rivers for
[24:30] Speaker 2: advice and then fired that coach after like three weeks?
[24:34] Speaker 1: And who did they hire? You're damn right. You're damn right. Well, yeah.
[24:40] Speaker 4: Doc, talk about people who know how to play the game, boy.
[24:44] Speaker 1: Yes, he does. Doc Smoove. Yes, he does. Yes, he does.
[24:48] Speaker 2: And honestly, man, once the word gets out that you
[24:50] Speaker 2: know how to play the game, you would think that
[24:52] Speaker 2: people would know.
[24:52] Speaker 1: Not to think that he could play. Nope, still goes.
[24:55] Speaker 1: Still goes. But let me ask you this. What do
[24:57] Speaker 1: you think is the problem that the Cowboys have on defense?
[24:59] Speaker 4: Everything.
[25:00] Speaker 1: Everything?
[25:02] Speaker 4: I would say it's not everything at once, which is
[25:06] Speaker 4: a harder thing to address. It's a bunch of different
[25:10] Speaker 4: things at different times. And that's one of the things
[25:12] Speaker 4: that we underappreciate about football, about how the complexity leads to.
[25:20] Speaker 4: breakdowns right so like you can look pretty bad like
[25:23] Speaker 4: your linebackers could look bad if your defensive tackles are
[25:27] Speaker 4: are being selfish and shooting gaps so make your linebackers
[25:29] Speaker 4: look bad because your d tackles will be in the
[25:31] Speaker 4: backfield but they're not in their gap and they've allowed
[25:33] Speaker 4: the double team to bypass them and get to the
[25:35] Speaker 4: second level Right. So like there's so many things like that,
[25:38] Speaker 4: that you'll see situations where that happens. And then you
[25:40] Speaker 4: see situations where the linebackers get the wrong read. You
[25:43] Speaker 4: can tell that they're supposed to like fill a gap
[25:46] Speaker 4: or spill a block and they choose not to or
[25:48] Speaker 4: they're not choose not to. They like have a brain fart,
[25:51] Speaker 4: but it's not the same thing every time. Then you
[25:54] Speaker 4: see in the secondary, sometimes there's a blown coverage and
[25:56] Speaker 4: sometimes they just get beat. Like that's one of the
[25:58] Speaker 4: problems I think that we don't talk about is like
[26:01] Speaker 4: you're going to lose.
[26:03] Speaker 1: But when you have a.
[26:03] Speaker 4: Reputation and something is hanging over your head, it's a
[26:06] Speaker 4: different feeling when you lose a play. It's like, Oh,
[26:10] Speaker 4: here we go again. But the problem is you're the
[26:12] Speaker 4: rules are designed and you're playing against NFL guys is
[26:15] Speaker 4: that sometimes they're just going to make a play. And
[26:17] Speaker 4: then sometimes you're like, man, we suck at defense. The
[26:20] Speaker 4: problem when you suck at defense is when they make
[26:22] Speaker 4: a play, it begins that psychological avalanche and begins the
[26:26] Speaker 4: writing and the talking and all that stuff that ends
[26:29] Speaker 4: up multiplying all the things. Because even if players say
[26:32] Speaker 4: they don't listen, somebody listened, somebody in that building listen
[26:36] Speaker 4: and they care and it influences the way that you're
[26:38] Speaker 4: treated and the way that you prepare.
[26:39] Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you this brother. I'm glad that
[26:42] Speaker 2: you gave that answer to me of everything. Cause it
[26:45] Speaker 2: reminds me once I was in graduate school, quite honestly,
[26:50] Speaker 2: getting my ass whooped. And I went to my macro
[26:54] Speaker 2: economics professor to ask him a question about the homework
[27:00] Speaker 2: that he had given us. And I mean, I'm going
[27:04] Speaker 2: to be honest with you, man. I ain't really in
[27:06] Speaker 2: the business of diagnosing nobody, but his lack of social
[27:09] Speaker 2: skills probably had a name. I mean, I can't say
[27:12] Speaker 2: that for certain, but he probably had a name. So
[27:14] Speaker 2: I go in there to talk to him. This motherfucker
[27:16] Speaker 2: looking at the computer screen the whole time. He'll never
[27:18] Speaker 2: look at me. I'm trying to talk my way through
[27:20] Speaker 2: whatever it is. And I'm not taking it personally. It's
[27:22] Speaker 2: obvious that this is much bigger than me, right?
[27:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, University of Chicago, PhD, all this stuff, right?
[27:27] Speaker 2: So I'm going through all this, da-da-da, and I explain
[27:31] Speaker 2: to him. And I really did think I was cooking.
[27:33] Speaker 2: And the man said to me, and I.
[27:35] Speaker 5: Quote, well, it seems that you are off on one thing,
[27:43] Speaker 5: and that one thing is everything.
[27:46] Speaker 2: And I remember I stopped, and I took a minute,
[27:55] Speaker 2: a beat, and I looked at him, and I was like,
[27:58] Speaker 2: how's that going to help me do this homework?
[28:03] Speaker 1: What are next steps? Where do we go from here? Not, no, okay, well,
[28:10] Speaker 1: let's start with this one. Nope, it's just like, so
[28:12] Speaker 1: what are you off on? All of it, dawg. Every
[28:17] Speaker 1: single bit of it. so hard to imagine for.
[28:22] Speaker 4: You like obviously that which is humanizing it is great
[28:26] Speaker 4: and all that but it's also intimidating i can't imagine like.
[28:30] Speaker 2: Buddy i don't know buddy i was a long year
[28:32] Speaker 2: man i was drowning man i was drowning on.
[28:36] Speaker 4: I badly want some other explanation like you were heartbroken
[28:41] Speaker 4: or there was some tragedy in your.
[28:42] Speaker 2: Life year two year two was drowning in the heartbreak
[28:45] Speaker 2: year year one the the point was for them to
[28:49] Speaker 2: drown you and heartbreak you.
[28:51] Speaker 1: That was what the whole... I was not alone, right?
[28:54] Speaker 1: We were all in there just like... Oh, my God. Dude,
[28:58] Speaker 1: I remember that year. It was the year that College
[29:01] Speaker 1: Dropout came out.
[29:03] Speaker 2: And I was listening to College Dropout all the way
[29:06] Speaker 2: to school every day to try to get some motivation, man.
[29:09] Speaker 1: Try to get myself to.
[29:12] Speaker 4: Where I needed to be. Shit, man. The man might
[29:18] Speaker 4: not have been all that socially adept.
[29:21] Speaker 1: But he's a hell of an entertainer. Yeah. He milked
[29:24] Speaker 1: that moment. I'm going to tell you this.
[29:26] Speaker 2: That's the first time anybody ever called that man entertaining.
[29:29] Speaker 2: Just so you know. I will say I did pass
[29:31] Speaker 2: that class and pass that qualified exam. I did turn
[29:35] Speaker 2: up on the other side of that, but I couldn't
[29:36] Speaker 2: believe what he said that to me.
[29:38] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[29:39] Speaker 1: This is 23 year old me. Yeah. You know what?
[29:44] Speaker 1: Coming up next, we're going to talk about some actual
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[33:33] Speaker 1: Thursday night game.
[33:34] Speaker 2: We can't be certain that we're going to get so
[33:36] Speaker 2: many of those, but we got the Seahawks and we
[33:39] Speaker 2: got the Broncos. And, you know, quite honestly, it wouldn't
[33:43] Speaker 2: be a good idea for either of those teams to
[33:45] Speaker 2: lose that game. Like, I feel like the loser of
[33:46] Speaker 2: this game cannot win their division. They're going to be
[33:48] Speaker 2: playing on the road for the whole playoffs.
[33:51] Speaker 1: And neither of those teams.
[33:53] Speaker 4: It's the funny thing about these teams this year is
[33:55] Speaker 4: it feels like, and I guess it last year was
[33:57] Speaker 4: true too. Whoever gets the buy is going to be
[34:00] Speaker 4: the person who gets the chance to win.
[34:01] Speaker 1: And now that there's only one buy, like it's hugely important.
[34:04] Speaker 4: These early season games that the Rams have been dropping
[34:07] Speaker 4: and that the Seahawks dropped last week and the Broncos
[34:10] Speaker 4: been dropping. Like we're not going to be talking about
[34:12] Speaker 4: them at the end of the year, but those are
[34:13] Speaker 4: going to be the ones I think that end up
[34:15] Speaker 4: deciding who gets that buy and who ends up representing
[34:19] Speaker 4: their conference at the Super Bowl and obviously these are
[34:21] Speaker 4: different conferences but it feels that way because everyone is
[34:24] Speaker 4: so feels so flawed right like all these teams that
[34:27] Speaker 4: we think are great and maybe of course teams change
[34:30] Speaker 4: and they get better but all the teams that we
[34:32] Speaker 4: think have a real chance have like a significant flaw
[34:35] Speaker 4: that is gonna get exposed and when I talk I
[34:39] Speaker 4: forgot what show I was on some show yesterday talking
[34:41] Speaker 4: about how we erase the the like bailout game from
[34:46] Speaker 4: everybody's playoff run. But if you think about every team's
[34:50] Speaker 4: playoff run, the one thing that is their weakness at
[34:53] Speaker 4: some point, they step up and it's normally like a
[34:56] Speaker 4: quarterback who's your strength is going to throw enough interceptions
[34:59] Speaker 4: that you should lose the game, but your defense that
[35:01] Speaker 4: you thought wasn't that good or your special teams get
[35:03] Speaker 4: a great return or you end up getting a bunch
[35:05] Speaker 4: of turnovers. So last year it was Sam Donald can't
[35:09] Speaker 4: cook like that. So we got to hide them one
[35:11] Speaker 4: game against the Rams, Sam Donald with ape shit. And
[35:14] Speaker 4: that's all they needed, right? The rest of the games,
[35:16] Speaker 4: he didn't do nothing. So I see that for these
[35:18] Speaker 4: teams and the team that has one fewer game that
[35:20] Speaker 4: they have to actually like, gamble that that team is
[35:25] Speaker 4: likely gonna make it to the super bowl and that
[35:27] Speaker 4: those games are decide are being decided right now and.
[35:29] Speaker 1: I think even if it doesn't get to the point
[35:31] Speaker 1: of the bye week just winning the division or being
[35:35] Speaker 1: you know playing that home game in the wild card
[35:37] Speaker 1: round or having the home game the next round like
[35:39] Speaker 1: if you get the number two you're gonna get that
[35:42] Speaker 1: the loser of this game is probably going to end
[35:46] Speaker 1: the week three games behind the division leader oh right
[35:51] Speaker 1: um The Chiefs are playing the Chargers. The 49ers are
[35:55] Speaker 1: playing the Commandos. I would assume that both those home
[36:00] Speaker 1: teams who are undefeated are going to win those games.
[36:03] Speaker 4: I'm excited about the 49ers-Commandos game because, sorry, it's just
[36:06] Speaker 4: a little bit of a plug. I'm doing the... simulcast
[36:10] Speaker 4: where we do like the playbook thing so i'll be
[36:14] Speaker 4: on there with brian hoyer i think breaking down the
[36:16] Speaker 4: x's and o's so if you get tired of troy
[36:19] Speaker 4: and joe.
[36:19] Speaker 2: I ain't even know this till right now boy we
[36:22] Speaker 2: done a whole presentation up there for you you know
[36:24] Speaker 2: what i'm.
[36:24] Speaker 1: Saying go go check dominique fosworth out breaking down the
[36:27] Speaker 1: plays with uh with hoyo there.
[36:30] Speaker 4: You go i'm uh i'm particularly excited about that linebacker
[36:35] Speaker 4: sunny styles i think he the second coming of fred Warner.
[36:39] Speaker 4: I've been watching a lot of them lately. We'll be
[36:42] Speaker 4: looking at it. I don't think they're going to beat
[36:44] Speaker 4: the 49ers.
[36:45] Speaker 1: Another conversation.
[36:47] Speaker 2: I made to this point with RJ Young on Wednesday.
[36:50] Speaker 2: Arville Reese and Sonny Styles make me think Ryan Day
[36:54] Speaker 2: is really bad at his job.
[36:56] Speaker 1: Buddy that's the only conclusion i can.
[36:58] Speaker 4: Draw buddy is it him the same thing could be
[37:01] Speaker 4: said of dabble sweeney like these boys that was at
[37:04] Speaker 4: clemson balling out this year in the league all the
[37:07] Speaker 4: rookies balling out it's just yeah they recruiting and coaching
[37:11] Speaker 4: are two different things and ryan day get them boys
[37:14] Speaker 4: in there but reese and styles and then put downs
[37:17] Speaker 4: on top of it How did anybody score?
[37:19] Speaker 1: They did have downs.
[37:21] Speaker 2: Or is the grander indictment not of Ryan Day but
[37:26] Speaker 2: of Matt Patricia? Matt Patricia can't even coach an NFL
[37:29] Speaker 2: defense when they playing in college. He got an NFL
[37:34] Speaker 2: team against a college team. And it still ain't going right.
[37:39] Speaker 4: That's like– It's like Ed Ogeron not winning the title
[37:44] Speaker 4: that one time. Like, he got those type of players
[37:47] Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball. Yeah. That's what
[37:49] Speaker 4: it looked like to me.
[37:50] Speaker 2: Hey, shout out to Ed Ogeron, by the way. A
[37:51] Speaker 2: whole lot of people might have found a way to
[37:53] Speaker 2: mess that up. Ed Ogeron did not. In fact, Ed Ogeron,
[37:56] Speaker 2: every day when somebody explained to him what Ryan Day got.
[37:59] Speaker 1: To, he don't. Right? Like, what is he? What's really hood? Like,
[38:07] Speaker 1: what are we talking about? Show me.
[38:09] Speaker 4: He know how to talk to people. That's what it
[38:12] Speaker 4: comes down to. It's right there. It makes people feel
[38:14] Speaker 4: more comfortable. Ed Ogeron is like.
[38:16] Speaker 2: No, the problem is that when things start going wrong
[38:19] Speaker 2: for Ed Ogeron, it confirms your priors.
[38:22] Speaker 1: That's the issue.
[38:23] Speaker 2: That's the issue for Ed Ogeron. Hey, I give Ed
[38:26] Speaker 2: Ogeron credit for this, too. Ed Ogeron got the job
[38:29] Speaker 2: he always wanted. He reached the mountaintop at that job
[38:32] Speaker 2: he always wanted.
[38:33] Speaker 1: It's cool. Ed over there helping Lane out right now.
[38:36] Speaker 1: Ed wasn't about to be going out in the middle
[38:38] Speaker 1: of nowhere. Ed wasn't about to be going to Louisiana Lafayette,
[38:41] Speaker 1: Louisiana Monroe. Nope, nope, nope.
[38:43] Speaker 2: Ed was like, how much money you going to give
[38:45] Speaker 2: me to leave? Where do I sign? I'm going to
[38:48] Speaker 2: just go fishing and eating crawfish and talking unintelligibly.
[38:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, Ed O figured it out.
[38:58] Speaker 4: But, yeah, you named a bunch of games that were
[39:01] Speaker 4: really interesting. I only stopped down on one in order
[39:03] Speaker 4: to hype myself up. What are the other games that
[39:06] Speaker 4: you want to talk about?
[39:07] Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you this. Do you think that
[39:10] Speaker 1: there's a chance that the Texans can recover this season?
[39:19] Speaker 1: Not really. Because there shouldn't be, right? Like, they're down 0-4. 0-4.
[39:23] Speaker 1: They won last week. Stroud has been better than he
[39:27] Speaker 1: was when we saw him at the end of last year.
[39:29] Speaker 1: They just went in and... acquired a receiver. Names don't
[39:32] Speaker 1: really matter. That's the details, shmeetails. But I don't know.
[39:40] Speaker 2: I don't feel as great about Jacksonville, the record notwithstanding,
[39:43] Speaker 2: especially after they pulled that one out of their keister
[39:45] Speaker 2: against that depleted, Eagles team that they played against last week.
[39:51] Speaker 2: But if they can get themselves into a wild card situation,
[39:55] Speaker 2: I still feel like it's a defense you don't want
[39:57] Speaker 2: no parts of.
[39:58] Speaker 1: Though they haven't played that well this year.
[40:01] Speaker 4: That's the thing. And looking back at them, you're right.
[40:04] Speaker 4: They haven't played as well as we expected, but I
[40:05] Speaker 4: don't think they're bad. Like there's no reason for me
[40:08] Speaker 4: to believe like they don't need to have a players
[40:09] Speaker 4: only meeting. There's no reason for me to believe that
[40:12] Speaker 4: things don't break a little bit better in their direction
[40:15] Speaker 4: defensively for the rest of the season. That's like a
[40:17] Speaker 4: regression of the mean, the opposite way of how we
[40:20] Speaker 4: normally talk about it. But that's the real thing, too,
[40:22] Speaker 4: because their mean is different from other people's mean. And
[40:25] Speaker 4: right now they've been below it. without like a glaring issue.
[40:28] Speaker 4: And it's not quite clear to me. I think people,
[40:31] Speaker 4: their defense is more straightforward. It's less like complicated as
[40:34] Speaker 4: Brian Flores is, or it appears less complicated as like
[40:37] Speaker 4: Brian Flores' defense is, which there are pros and cons, right,
[40:40] Speaker 4: with everything. So the straightforward defense is one that is
[40:43] Speaker 4: easier to scheme against, but... we can whoop your ass
[40:46] Speaker 4: at just about every position, so we're good there. The
[40:48] Speaker 4: Brian Flores scheme defense is like, yeah, sometimes you can't
[40:51] Speaker 4: rely on a coach to outsmart everybody every week. Sometimes
[40:55] Speaker 4: it's going to catch up to you, and you like
[40:57] Speaker 4: to have that one player or a couple of players
[41:00] Speaker 4: that are just like, the scheme don't matter because I'm
[41:02] Speaker 4: so much better than them.
[41:03] Speaker 1: So they're pros and cons to both, and I think Flores' defense.
[41:06] Speaker 4: will regress to the mean negatively in some ways and
[41:09] Speaker 4: I think the Texans will regress to the mean positively
[41:12] Speaker 4: and get more interceptions and turnovers and stuff that they
[41:15] Speaker 4: created last year but the question is is it too
[41:17] Speaker 4: late Because there were a couple of games that they
[41:19] Speaker 4: had a chance to win earlier in the season, and
[41:22] Speaker 4: they lost them. And they're going to continue to be
[41:25] Speaker 4: those type of games, and they're going to be some
[41:26] Speaker 4: that they deserve to lose. Have they put themselves in
[41:29] Speaker 4: too deep a hole to pull out? Because I don't
[41:30] Speaker 4: think this team can't compete. If we just dropped them
[41:33] Speaker 4: in the playoffs today, I'd feel like they have a
[41:35] Speaker 4: chance to make a run, and most teams wouldn't want
[41:38] Speaker 4: to play them. But given the hole they put themselves in,
[41:41] Speaker 4: the question is, can they play flawlessly the rest of
[41:43] Speaker 4: the season?
[41:44] Speaker 2: We got Dallas Green Bay on Sunday night. There is
[41:49] Speaker 2: a chance that Green Bay will be 4-2 at the
[41:52] Speaker 2: end of this game. That doesn't feel right.
[41:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's not.
[41:58] Speaker 2: It's like as bad as they look, any time I
[42:01] Speaker 2: put my eyes on them, as bad as they look,
[42:04] Speaker 2: they come out of this at 4-2, even though they
[42:07] Speaker 2: can't block people.
[42:09] Speaker 4: Yeah, they're in great shape. They are in a division,
[42:13] Speaker 4: luckily for them, where all the teams have enormous flaws.
[42:18] Speaker 4: The Vikings seem like Kyler may address their biggest flaw.
[42:23] Speaker 4: He may not.
[42:23] Speaker 1: It's only maybe. It's only maybe. Yeah.
[42:26] Speaker 4: I mean, the question is, can he play mediocre and
[42:30] Speaker 4: occasionally show a flash of great? That's the question. And
[42:35] Speaker 4: that feels more likely than, like, say, the Bears' defense
[42:40] Speaker 4: or the Lions' defense is going to, like, be consistently good.
[42:44] Speaker 4: So that's the benefit is they could make it into
[42:47] Speaker 4: the playoffs. But one of the problems with some of
[42:48] Speaker 4: these teams, especially teams that have great quarterbacks, like a
[42:51] Speaker 4: really good quarterbacks, like love is when you've been there
[42:54] Speaker 4: for long enough, the expectation is more than just make
[42:56] Speaker 4: the playoffs. And I don't think against good teams, they
[42:59] Speaker 4: are going to play well in the playoffs. So they
[43:03] Speaker 4: might sneak into the playoffs or they might win the
[43:05] Speaker 4: division and not sneak in, just walk right into the playoffs.
[43:09] Speaker 4: And I feel like they aren't good enough up front
[43:11] Speaker 4: or on defense, even when they get, um, micah back
[43:14] Speaker 4: to to beat anybody.
[43:16] Speaker 2: But even with that in mind neither of us is
[43:18] Speaker 2: entertaining the possibility that the cowboys are going to win
[43:21] Speaker 2: that game they're.
[43:23] Speaker 1: Not gonna get you huh.
[43:26] Speaker 4: Yeah. I gave up on them week one when I
[43:29] Speaker 4: saw their defense because.
[43:32] Speaker 1: You bailed immediately because I, you know what it was.
[43:35] Speaker 4: And like, I know we try to pretend like all
[43:37] Speaker 4: of us are unbiased and whatever, but like, nah, I
[43:40] Speaker 4: was hurt emotionally. I spent the off season drinking a Kool-Aid.
[43:45] Speaker 4: Y'all spent the whole off season drafting and trading and
[43:48] Speaker 4: signing and, and hiring. And you told me that your
[43:51] Speaker 4: focus was going to be on defense and, Week one,
[43:54] Speaker 4: week two, I'm going to need you to show me something.
[43:57] Speaker 1: Because that's all we cared about. That's all. You focused
[44:00] Speaker 1: on it all year. And then you was bad. And
[44:03] Speaker 1: so a little of me was just pissed that I
[44:06] Speaker 1: was so dumb.
[44:08] Speaker 4: And I turned out to be right. My emotions led
[44:10] Speaker 4: me to the right answer because them boys ain't serious.
[44:13] Speaker 1: That's right over there.
[44:14] Speaker 2: That's where I am on Kyler Murray. I really put
[44:17] Speaker 2: a lot on the line.
[44:18] Speaker 1: I really did. I stepped out here. It's not looking like.
[44:21] Speaker 2: It's not looking like I made a great decision because
[44:24] Speaker 2: it's not looking like that.
[44:25] Speaker 1: You mentioned Curly earlier being from Philadelphia.
[44:31] Speaker 2: I know he's dead, but that doesn't mean he's not
[44:33] Speaker 2: on the Eagles right now because they got a bunch
[44:35] Speaker 2: of dudes that can't play in the game. They got
[44:39] Speaker 2: a hole too deep full of people that can't play
[44:42] Speaker 2: in the game, and they're going to play against the Panthers. And,
[44:46] Speaker 2: I mean, it's on the board that they could get
[44:48] Speaker 2: rolled at the crib where those people have no appreciation
[44:53] Speaker 2: for context.
[44:54] Speaker 4: Yeah. Their offense is where all the injuries are, the
[44:58] Speaker 4: most significant injuries. This is one of those things where, like,
[45:03] Speaker 4: I would say most of the time that you can't
[45:05] Speaker 4: hit a switch. Apparently Jalen Carter can. So my choice
[45:10] Speaker 4: for whether the Eagles win or lose any game for
[45:14] Speaker 4: the rest of the year is if someone could get
[45:16] Speaker 4: me on the phone with Jalen Carter before the game,
[45:21] Speaker 4: And I'm like, what you thinking?
[45:22] Speaker 1: All pro today or no? Because that's how.
[45:26] Speaker 4: Easy he made it look in the Jacksonville game. And
[45:29] Speaker 4: I know they lost that game, but it was like,
[45:32] Speaker 4: why you ain't been doing this?
[45:33] Speaker 1: Right. Jumped up and be like, who's this guy?
[45:36] Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question about Jalen Carter. And
[45:39] Speaker 2: I want to make sure I look this up properly. Okay.
[45:44] Speaker 2: Jalen Carter was the ninth pick in the 2023 draft.
[45:47] Speaker 2: He went after Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, Will Anderson, Anthony Richardson,
[45:52] Speaker 2: Devon Witherspoon, Paris Johnson, Tyree Wilson, B.
[45:56] Speaker 1: John Robinson.
[45:58] Speaker 2: What in the world was in that file? What did
[46:05] Speaker 2: people tell them about this guy? Because I know if
[46:10] Speaker 2: you need a quarterback, you take a quarterback, whatever it is,
[46:13] Speaker 2: but And I know obviously there's the drag racing situation,
[46:16] Speaker 2: but they don't look past way worse than that in
[46:19] Speaker 2: this league for a dude as cold as he is.
[46:21] Speaker 2: Like the Raiders, that boy is a Raider. And they
[46:25] Speaker 2: took the wrong guy. Tyree Wills, that was a terrible decision.
[46:29] Speaker 1: They took a dude from Alaska over a dude from Florida.
[46:33] Speaker 4: At the time, I was confused by it. And I
[46:39] Speaker 4: have fewer connects than I have now. And I was
[46:43] Speaker 4: asking people because I was like, this don't make sense.
[46:45] Speaker 4: And like, to your point, I was like, yeah, that
[46:47] Speaker 4: was bad. But like, that's that hasn't scared people away
[46:52] Speaker 4: from this type of talent. And then you would hear
[46:54] Speaker 4: like the. Yeah, there would be like. nothing was firm
[47:01] Speaker 4: enough for you to, like, feel comfortable talking about. So
[47:04] Speaker 4: people would, like, suggest things about his personality and his
[47:07] Speaker 4: work ethic and stuff like that. And it was like, well,
[47:10] Speaker 4: you ain't going to put your name on it. Like,
[47:12] Speaker 4: I ain't going to be out here repeating this. So
[47:14] Speaker 4: I was the whole time like, why is he sliding?
[47:16] Speaker 4: And I remember saying, like, at nine, the Eagles got
[47:19] Speaker 4: him still at a draft. He's going to dominate this league.
[47:23] Speaker 4: And then he does sometimes and then he doesn't sometimes.
[47:25] Speaker 1: Yeah, you know why? Because it's just a little too
[47:27] Speaker 1: easy for him, dog. Yeah.
[47:29] Speaker 2: Like, why don't you do this all the time? Why
[47:30] Speaker 2: don't you do anything all the time? Why don't you
[47:32] Speaker 2: have the same thing for breakfast every day?
[47:34] Speaker 4: That's a fair point.
[47:35] Speaker 1: Sometimes you just need a little bit of a change.
[47:37] Speaker 2: The thing with him also is I wish I knew
[47:39] Speaker 2: more about him personally because all I got is that
[47:42] Speaker 2: look on his face.
[47:44] Speaker 1: And that's a defensive lineman there, brother.
[47:51] Speaker 2: They put him on offensive line one time and they
[47:53] Speaker 2: were like, he doesn't really seem interested in this.
[47:55] Speaker 1: Nah. He has no interest in pass protection.
[47:59] Speaker 2: Like, I bet he love getting out there pulling, you
[48:01] Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? Like, scoping out DBs, taking them down,
[48:06] Speaker 2: but you're just going to stand around and keep people safe?
[48:08] Speaker 4: Nah, nah, nah.
[48:09] Speaker 1: That's not what my relationship with safety is.
[48:12] Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know if this is true or not,
[48:16] Speaker 4: but this has been my experience. The history, the path
[48:19] Speaker 4: for D linemen, it rarely, especially those type of league-changing
[48:25] Speaker 4: super athlete, like, it rarely involves any O-line.
[48:30] Speaker 1: It normally involves skill positions.
[48:33] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[48:33] Speaker 1: Like you go from.
[48:34] Speaker 4: Running back to D line because you kept growing and
[48:38] Speaker 4: other kids didn't, you go from tight end to D line, right? Like,
[48:42] Speaker 4: and of course in high school, you might play both ways,
[48:44] Speaker 4: but D lineman or D lineman, but they normally come
[48:48] Speaker 4: from somewhere else. They, and sometimes D lineman get moved
[48:52] Speaker 4: over to offensive line. Cause they don't got whatever that,
[48:55] Speaker 4: that nasty streak is, but it's so rare that, I mean,
[48:59] Speaker 4: I guess tackles are athletic enough to probably do it
[49:01] Speaker 4: if they wanted to, but there's the disposition thing and
[49:04] Speaker 4: the height thing. But yeah, they normally come from more
[49:07] Speaker 4: explosive positions. They don't come from... That's a great point.
[49:11] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that is a great point. You don't just
[49:14] Speaker 2: turn them over to the other side.
[49:16] Speaker 4: Sometimes you go the other way. Sometimes you take a
[49:18] Speaker 4: D-line and like... you don't want to kill enough.
[49:22] Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you.
[49:23] Speaker 2: I always wonder like when Nick Saban had our guy
[49:26] Speaker 2: Swagoo go from playing tight end to play a defensive line,
[49:30] Speaker 2: if he ever had any reservations. And we just say
[49:33] Speaker 2: that because Marcus is such a great dude. We all
[49:36] Speaker 2: love him.
[49:37] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
[49:39] Speaker 4: Um, Yeah. But you know, Marcus.
[49:44] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[49:45] Speaker 2: But he's like, like you said, have to be nice,
[49:48] Speaker 2: have to be kind. I don't think he has to
[49:49] Speaker 2: tell himself those things. I think he does that naturally.
[49:52] Speaker 4: No, I think you're right.
[49:55] Speaker 1: I also think.
[49:56] Speaker 4: That I think it's about the capacity. I think for
[49:59] Speaker 4: some people, the ability to turn it on and turn
[50:02] Speaker 4: it off is something that they have managed to control.
[50:05] Speaker 4: And it's not fake. It's like, this is a part
[50:07] Speaker 4: of me. I think when I talk about D-line and O-line,
[50:10] Speaker 4: and of course, this is generalization. It's not true of everyone.
[50:13] Speaker 4: I think it's more about capacity. And now let me
[50:16] Speaker 4: ask you something. You know him well.
[50:18] Speaker 1: I know him really well.
[50:21] Speaker 4: Do you think he got the capacity?
[50:23] Speaker 1: I wouldn't test it.
[50:27] Speaker 4: I promise you yeah i promise you yeah yeah okay
[50:32] Speaker 4: i don't.
[50:32] Speaker 1: I don't want to i don't want to put my
[50:34] Speaker 1: man in a bad situation let me just tell you
[50:37] Speaker 1: yes yes One of my favorite.
[50:41] Speaker 2: Marcus stories is I was in the office one day,
[50:44] Speaker 2: and I can't remember why, but somebody had left some
[50:47] Speaker 2: glasses on the counter. And somebody asked if those glasses
[50:50] Speaker 2: were mine. And they're like, number one, you've never seen
[50:51] Speaker 2: me with glasses. Number two, them glasses was like yay wide.
[50:55] Speaker 2: Them glasses was like as wide as a television. There
[50:59] Speaker 2: was no question who those glasses belonged to. Those were
[51:02] Speaker 2: Marcus Spears glasses. There was no doubt.
[51:06] Speaker 4: Yep.
[51:07] Speaker 1: And he's the nicest guy. But yeah, I know. He's
[51:12] Speaker 1: still for Baton Rouge. Exactly. Exactly.
[51:16] Speaker 4: And again, he moved from tight end from basketball star.
[51:20] Speaker 4: He was they never put that man at tackle a guard.
[51:22] Speaker 4: You better stop it.
[51:24] Speaker 2: Yo, that's a great point. That's why it's surprising because
[51:27] Speaker 2: he was seen to be to be the guy of, hey,
[51:29] Speaker 2: we move. We just kick you down to play tackle.
[51:32] Speaker 2: That very often happens with like five star tight end
[51:35] Speaker 2: type players. Eric Winston. is an example of a guy
[51:38] Speaker 2: like that, right? You just slide them down and then
[51:41] Speaker 2: they like, it's so crazy to be the Darnell Washington
[51:43] Speaker 2: that never at any point did they say, how would
[51:45] Speaker 2: you like to play tackle? It feels like it would
[51:47] Speaker 2: make a lot more money for him.
[51:48] Speaker 4: I'm still saying that.
[51:50] Speaker 1: I don't understand why he's not a tackle. I don't
[51:53] Speaker 1: get it either. Like, go ahead and whatever diet that
[51:56] Speaker 1: you want, you can get off of it.
[51:57] Speaker 4: You can eat whatever you want to eat now and
[52:00] Speaker 4: make a whole lot more money. I don't get it
[52:02] Speaker 4: because he clearly has that athleticism. Maybe there's something else
[52:04] Speaker 4: there that's not worked on at Washington is the enormous
[52:07] Speaker 4: tight end for the Steelers, who was at Georgia before.
[52:11] Speaker 4: And they'd be saying he 360, but. 260, there's no chance.
[52:15] Speaker 4: I mean, they say 260.
[52:18] Speaker 1: He's 290 at the least.
[52:20] Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
[52:20] Speaker 1: He would be an incredible tackle. Do you remember Eric Green?
[52:25] Speaker 1: Eric Green used to play tight end for the Steelers
[52:28] Speaker 1: in the early 90s, and he was basically the same
[52:31] Speaker 1: size as Darnell Washington, except he was a better receiver.
[52:34] Speaker 1: He was like 6'5, 280. I wonder what Darnell.
[52:38] Speaker 4: So Darnell Washington may not have the quick twitch because
[52:41] Speaker 4: the way he plays, when the way he blocks DBs
[52:44] Speaker 4: and the way he runs with the ball, he got that...
[52:47] Speaker 4: That demeanor, it seems, that would work on the other
[52:51] Speaker 4: side of the ball, too. But, like, tackle?
[52:54] Speaker 1: Go ahead and slide on down one step and get
[52:56] Speaker 1: that money.
[52:56] Speaker 2: Clearly somebody's thought about this before we had, right? Like,
[53:00] Speaker 2: everything we're talking about here.
[53:01] Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, heard Bomani and Dominique talking
[53:03] Speaker 1: on the show. And I was just wondering, maybe we
[53:05] Speaker 1: need to kick Darnell inside. Just see how it goes.
[53:10] Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember the draft saying it. And I projected, like,
[53:14] Speaker 4: they're going to slide him down the tackle. I guarantee it.
[53:16] Speaker 1: They have it.
[53:17] Speaker 4: They just like letting him stiff on 190-pound defensive.
[53:21] Speaker 1: Backs for whatever reason. That man out there. He don't
[53:24] Speaker 1: belong in our neighborhood, man. I see you standing up
[53:26] Speaker 1: for the squad. You know what I'm saying? Like, you
[53:28] Speaker 1: ready to call 5-0. We got to get this man
[53:29] Speaker 1: off the streets. He's cheating.
[53:34] Speaker 4: Like, we already have to deal with 250, 260-pound guys. Like,
[53:39] Speaker 4: we're not supposed to have to deal with a 300-pound
[53:41] Speaker 4: guy with the ball in his hands. Yes.
[53:44] Speaker 1: Last thing.
[53:46] Speaker 2: I have been a little bit surprised. I was going
[53:48] Speaker 2: to ask about the Giants, but a little worried about
[53:51] Speaker 2: them another day. I understand that Washington blew that game,
[53:56] Speaker 2: and it was a collective failure in the way that
[53:58] Speaker 2: they blew that game.
[53:59] Speaker 1: At the end.
[54:00] Speaker 2: I have been shocked how long that topic, though, has
[54:03] Speaker 2: persisted in the media.
[54:09] Speaker 1: They get to play the 49ers. Yep. Like, what are
[54:12] Speaker 1: they going to do now?
[54:14] Speaker 4: It's such bad luck, too, is that you got the
[54:17] Speaker 4: standalone isolated game immediately after that topic. So like the
[54:24] Speaker 4: lead up to the game is going to be conversations
[54:27] Speaker 4: about what happened in the previous game.
[54:28] Speaker 1: The 49ers.
[54:29] Speaker 4: I mean, they just beat the Seahawks, the Super Bowl champs.
[54:32] Speaker 4: That's fine. But that ain't interesting. Y'all did something that
[54:36] Speaker 4: ain't never been done before. We're going to be talking
[54:38] Speaker 4: about that. We talked about it till Wednesday, maybe even
[54:43] Speaker 4: a little bit on Thursday this week. Now we're going
[54:46] Speaker 4: to let you we're going to let you off the hook.
[54:48] Speaker 4: Until Monday, after Monday morning, after we're done talking about
[54:52] Speaker 4: the Sunday games, we're talking about y'all all the way
[54:55] Speaker 4: up and through that kickoff of that game, and don't
[54:58] Speaker 4: you dare get into a unique end-of-half or end-of-game situation.
[55:03] Speaker 1: How about just don't have no delay a game, period?
[55:09] Speaker 4: They in such a lose-lose.
[55:11] Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
[55:12] Speaker 2: They in such a lose-lose. Also, throwing this out here,
[55:16] Speaker 2: We talked about the Chiefs playing the Chargers. I believe
[55:22] Speaker 2: that the Chargers have a bye week after this game.
[55:26] Speaker 2: So if they go to 0-6, somebody's got to get fired, right?
[55:32] Speaker 2: Like Mike McDaniel is going to be over there with
[55:34] Speaker 2: y'all at the desk, right?
[55:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he would fit in.
[55:38] Speaker 4: He seemed like he got some things to say. Yeah,
[55:41] Speaker 4: something's going to have to change, man.
[55:42] Speaker 2: By the way, people in our job, I get this,
[55:44] Speaker 2: where they don't feel good about calling for somebody's job.
[55:48] Speaker 1: Getting fired is not the problem with getting fired. Yeah.
[55:52] Speaker 1: It's not about the job. It's about the check.
[55:56] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[55:58] Speaker 1: A job with no check? There's a word for that.
[56:01] Speaker 2: A check with no job?
[56:03] Speaker 1: There's a word for that. Fun employment. Been there. Love it.
[56:09] Speaker 1: That first month after you got your check but you
[56:11] Speaker 1: ain't got to go to work is great. It's when
[56:13] Speaker 1: that check don't come. Now we got a problem. So
[56:16] Speaker 1: I ain't got no shame about this. If they go
[56:18] Speaker 1: to 0-6, somebody's going to lose their job.
[56:22] Speaker 4: I mean, it's definitely not going to be the quarterback.
[56:25] Speaker 1: I assume.
[56:26] Speaker 4: The head coach, they will wait. So it sounds like
[56:30] Speaker 4: you're right. It's going to be Mike.
[56:34] Speaker 1: I'm just saying, somebody has to answer for this. On
[56:38] Speaker 1: some level, someone has to answer. I can't believe how
[56:42] Speaker 1: bad they are.
[56:44] Speaker 4: I don't know how a team with expectations, too. Walking
[56:48] Speaker 4: into the building every week. It's got to be impossible.
[56:52] Speaker 4: It's so demoralizing. I remember what it felt like to
[56:56] Speaker 4: walk in after one loss. It would feel terrible. Maybe
[56:59] Speaker 4: you get used to it. You probably do get used
[57:01] Speaker 4: to it to some extent, but you have some expectations
[57:04] Speaker 4: that you're just going to kick off the year with
[57:07] Speaker 4: six in a row and no answers.
[57:08] Speaker 1: It's not like we're waiting for something to change. They
[57:11] Speaker 1: are currently three games behind their entire division. Everybody has
[57:19] Speaker 1: three more wins than they do including the Raiders. Three
[57:26] Speaker 1: games behind the whole division. And they about to drop
[57:32] Speaker 1: their sixth one. Well, how about this?
[57:35] Speaker 2: It ain't going to get no better, because I don't
[57:37] Speaker 2: know if you've seen the rest of that schedule. Rams, Texans, Ravens, Jets, Patriots, Bucs, Raiders, 49ers, Dolphins, Chiefs, Broncos.
[57:47] Speaker 1: I'm counting a couple of wins there.
[57:49] Speaker 2: And all the teams that we say we think they're
[57:51] Speaker 2: going to beat, they just as sorry as them.
[57:53] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[57:54] Speaker 1: There's no hope, man.
[57:56] Speaker 4: They'll steal one at some point that we don't expect
[57:58] Speaker 4: them to win. They better hope it's this week. Everybody
[58:01] Speaker 4: playing right now.
[58:02] Speaker 1: This is Super Bowl, man. This is to keep everybody
[58:04] Speaker 1: in the building.
[58:05] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[58:05] Speaker 1: I think I'm going to go watch that game with Nick.
[58:08] Speaker 2: The only way that I would call the Chargers winning
[58:11] Speaker 2: that game is it would just be funny.
[58:13] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[58:14] Speaker 2: That's the only thing I got. If that happened, it
[58:17] Speaker 2: would be funny to watch, but I would leave halfway
[58:20] Speaker 2: through the fourth quarter. I don't like to be there
[58:24] Speaker 2: when it go real bad.
[58:27] Speaker 1: I just never forget.
[58:28] Speaker 2: I sent Nick's wife a text during the Super Bowl
[58:31] Speaker 2: in February 2021 where the Buccaneers blew the Chiefs' doors off,
[58:37] Speaker 2: and I was like, is he okay?
[58:39] Speaker 1: And the answer I got was no.
[58:43] Speaker 4: That was it. oh you got no more color she
[58:46] Speaker 4: ain't got time for color.
[58:48] Speaker 2: No no no no no i think she was too
[58:50] Speaker 2: busy just trying not to hear that noise damn like
[58:53] Speaker 2: that's a house that's a house full of people that
[58:55] Speaker 2: aren't nearly as into this.
[58:59] Speaker 4: Yeah i mean sometimes i miss the highs of it
[59:04] Speaker 4: don't miss the lows of it Nah, nah.
[59:06] Speaker 1: I ain't going to lie to you, old boy.
[59:08] Speaker 2: I can't tell you enough about how much better I
[59:10] Speaker 2: felt with America's team. The America's team started the game
[59:13] Speaker 2: off real slow against the Cardinals last week.
[59:15] Speaker 1: I was salty.
[59:16] Speaker 2: I was sending people to Bosco. Man, they started putting
[59:18] Speaker 2: up them points. Can I just say it? Can I
[59:21] Speaker 2: just throw it out here? Just saying for right now.
[59:26] Speaker 2: Jared Goff.
[59:28] Speaker 1: Putting up MVP numbers.
[59:30] Speaker 4: Yes.
[59:31] Speaker 2: He's putting up MVP numbers. I know a lot of
[59:33] Speaker 2: y'all out here talking about Brock Purdy. Look what Jerry
[59:36] Speaker 2: Goff got to work with over there.
[59:38] Speaker 1: Jerry Goff, we got to go out here and score
[59:39] Speaker 1: 50 points a game just to have an opportunity. Brock
[59:41] Speaker 1: Purdy ain't got to worry about that. Jerry Goff got
[59:43] Speaker 1: the weight of the world on his shoulders. He throw
[59:47] Speaker 1: the ball to J-Mo. You never know what that boy
[59:49] Speaker 1: might do. He might put that thing on the ground
[59:52] Speaker 1: and try to hump it. We've seen him do it before.
[59:56] Speaker 1: He might go on the sideline and go check his
[59:58] Speaker 1: cow sheet. For all I know, it's on the board.
[1:00:01] Speaker 1: Anything can happen.
[1:00:03] Speaker 4: Did I tell you I had the distinct pleasure of
[1:00:05] Speaker 4: introducing that clip to Randy Moss?
[1:00:07] Speaker 1: No, you did not. Yeah. What did Randy Moss think
[1:00:10] Speaker 1: upon seeing that?
[1:00:11] Speaker 4: He just started cracking up. Because it started because Jamar
[1:00:18] Speaker 4: Chase was doing that celebration and And I was saying
[1:00:23] Speaker 4: what I thought it was, which is what it actually was.
[1:00:26] Speaker 4: And other people were saying other things. And then the
[1:00:28] Speaker 4: next week, he got hit with a fine. And I
[1:00:30] Speaker 4: was like, yeah.
[1:00:31] Speaker 1: I was like, at least it wasn't as bad as
[1:00:33] Speaker 1: with J-Mo, because I assume everybody remembered that. He was like,
[1:00:35] Speaker 1: what did J-Mo do?
[1:00:38] Speaker 4: Like, watch this.
[1:00:38] Speaker 1: What was so funny about the J-Mo clip was I
[1:00:41] Speaker 1: forget it. I think it was Laporta that was right
[1:00:43] Speaker 1: there and saw it. It was like, oh, no. He's
[1:00:47] Speaker 1: going to start humping the ground. Like, imagine watching another
[1:00:51] Speaker 1: grown man about to hump something and you have no
[1:00:54] Speaker 1: other choice but to wrap your arms around him. Yeah.
[1:00:59] Speaker 4: Like, oh, no.
[1:01:00] Speaker 2: Better be than the flow. Hey, man, stakes is high. But, hell,
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