# Shedeur Sanders mania begins, Lane Kiffin's decision, Zohran outsmarts Trump | 11.24

An episode of [The Right Time with Bomani Jones](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/982639043), 24 Nov 2025, 52 min.

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In this episode of The Right Time, Bomani Jones breaks down the beginning of "Shedeur Mania" after Shedeur Sanders led the Cleveland Browns to a win over the Las Vegas Raiders. Later, he discusses the Eagles shocking loss to the Dallas Cowboys and other storylines following week 12 of NFL action. Finally, he reacts to the reports of Lane Kiffin's "decision", Zohran Mamdini's visit with President Donald Trump and a few listener voicemails. 00:45 - Shedeur Sanders Mania begins 18:40 - Eagles embarrassing performance 31:31 - Lan Kiffin's "decision" 43:50 - Voicemails Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

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[0:33] Speaker 1: got a lot of NFL to get to, but first,
[0:36] Speaker 1: I don't even know if right now what I'm about
[0:40] Speaker 1: to discuss actually qualifies as being the NFL. Like, it's
[0:46] Speaker 1: obviously a football topic, but I'm looking at the way
[0:49] Speaker 1: that people are charged up about this. It's way bigger
[0:53] Speaker 1: than football, apparently. It's way deeper than rap. Shador Mania
[1:00] Speaker 1: has officially arrived. Ladies and gentlemen, it is here. Kevin
[1:08] Speaker 1: Stefanski's worst nightmare just took place. And this is what
[1:13] Speaker 1: the worst nightmare was, okay? It was a combination of factors.
[1:20] Speaker 1: Shador Sanders plays. He does not play especially well, but
[1:30] Speaker 1: he has a couple of big plays, a couple of
[1:33] Speaker 1: good plays, a statistical line that looks decent, and the
[1:41] Speaker 1: Browns win. All worst case scenario. Now you're asking yourself,
[1:47] Speaker 1: why are these things the worst case scenario for Kevin Stefanski?
[1:52] Speaker 1: Number one, this team is bad and probably long run
[1:58] Speaker 1: is better by being worse. So like every win, I'm
[2:02] Speaker 1: not exactly sure how they do in terms of him
[2:04] Speaker 1: saving his job or whatever, but they're not necessarily best
[2:06] Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns. And I think Stefanski, I mean,
[2:09] Speaker 1: on one level, he's swinging for his job. On the
[2:10] Speaker 1: other hand, the man told him he's going to get
[2:12] Speaker 1: to keep it, in which case, be sorry and let
[2:14] Speaker 1: me get another quarterback. Okay, cool, right? That's not what
[2:18] Speaker 1: you want. But that combination of factors... that I just
[2:22] Speaker 1: gave you means that we are officially in the midst
[2:29] Speaker 1: of Shador mania.
[2:31] Speaker 2: It is here.
[2:33] Speaker 1: This is, I don't want to call it the same
[2:37] Speaker 1: as Tebow mania, but I will say this about Tebow mania,
[2:40] Speaker 1: and I think that this is an important distinction to
[2:42] Speaker 1: make where I say that we're kind of in a
[2:44] Speaker 1: similar stage, okay? Tebow mania did not start with his
[2:50] Speaker 1: first start. It started with the first game that he
[2:52] Speaker 1: went into, which was different than what happened with Shador
[2:55] Speaker 1: because the first game that Shador went into is because
[2:57] Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel got hurt. No, the Broncos were getting their
[3:01] Speaker 1: asses kicked. I think it was by the Chargers. And
[3:04] Speaker 1: John Fox said, fine. He took Kyle Orton out the
[3:06] Speaker 1: game and he put Tebow in. Now, I am firmly
[3:09] Speaker 1: convinced that the reason that John Fox did that was like, watch,
[3:13] Speaker 1: this will shut him up. right? Let me put this
[3:15] Speaker 1: bum out here and watch what happens. And what happened
[3:18] Speaker 1: was the Broncos started to mount this furious comeback and
[3:22] Speaker 1: they didn't win the game, but they came back and
[3:24] Speaker 1: they got close enough that it made it virtually impossible
[3:27] Speaker 1: for them to not start Tebow the next game. And
[3:31] Speaker 1: they did start Tebow the next game. I am comparing
[3:35] Speaker 1: that Tebow performance to this first one for Shador. Cause look,
[3:39] Speaker 1: the first one that Shador got into, like, come on, man,
[3:41] Speaker 1: there was no chance there, right? I'm comparing this to
[3:45] Speaker 1: that one because it wasn't like Tebow was great in
[3:48] Speaker 1: the course of that game that I described, but they
[3:50] Speaker 1: moved down the field and they got some things done, right?
[3:53] Speaker 1: Shador in this game had like the big pass to
[3:55] Speaker 1: Bond where he rolled right through off the back leg,
[3:57] Speaker 1: got the ball down there. Okay, cool. But he got
[3:59] Speaker 1: a 66-yard touchdown where he threw the ball about 18 inches.
[4:02] Speaker 2: Right, exactly. A lot of what the Colorado stuff looked like.
[4:06] Speaker 2: And just to compare, in Tebow's first win, he went
[4:08] Speaker 2: 13 for 27, you know, competing for 161 yards. two
[4:13] Speaker 2: touchdowns to win the game, 18-15 in overtime.
[4:16] Speaker 1: Yes, and that was against Miami, right?
[4:18] Speaker 3: Right.
[4:18] Speaker 1: Okay.
[4:19] Speaker 2: So you were right in the Chargers. He comes in
[4:21] Speaker 2: the Chargers game. They lose by five. Yes.
[4:24] Speaker 1: Right.
[4:25] Speaker 2: So he starts the next week and they win it
[4:27] Speaker 2: over time.
[4:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was bad. Like, I think, I don't
[4:29] Speaker 1: remember if I've told you the story that I did
[4:31] Speaker 1: around the horn that day right now, after that game,
[4:33] Speaker 1: I hit a guy up that played for the dolphins
[4:35] Speaker 1: now who is now a coach. And I asked him,
[4:37] Speaker 1: I said, so what'd you say on Tebow? And he said,
[4:39] Speaker 1: matter of fact, worst quarterback I've ever seen.
[4:42] Speaker 4: Right.
[4:42] Speaker 1: He was like, Hey, we lost the game, but that's
[4:45] Speaker 1: the worst quarterback that I've ever seen. Okay. Which by
[4:48] Speaker 1: the way, Shador Sanders is not the worst quarterback I've
[4:50] Speaker 1: ever seen. That's an important distinction also in this. However,
[4:54] Speaker 1: I do a round the horn the next day. I
[4:56] Speaker 1: believe it's me, Woody Page, Bob Ryan, and Tim Kalashov.
[5:02] Speaker 1: And we go around, you know, in the circle on
[5:04] Speaker 1: the conference call where everybody gives their thoughts. And everybody, like,
[5:09] Speaker 1: you know, Woody, obviously he was in Denver, so he
[5:11] Speaker 1: had his one vantage on it. Like, you know, he's like, hey,
[5:13] Speaker 1: we got a little something, got the people going. The
[5:16] Speaker 1: vibes off of Bob Ryan and Kalashov were kind of,
[5:22] Speaker 1: you know, Every white man deserve a chance. And these
[5:25] Speaker 1: are guys I like, I want to be clear. Like, hey,
[5:28] Speaker 1: they weren't doing this from a standpoint of racism, but
[5:31] Speaker 1: this is the world we live in, right? They were
[5:33] Speaker 1: just kind of like, yeah, you know, I thought it
[5:34] Speaker 1: was bad, but eh, not so bad. And it got
[5:36] Speaker 1: to me, brother, I was flabbergasted. Gob smacked, I tell you.
[5:41] Speaker 1: I couldn't believe what I was hearing because I was
[5:43] Speaker 1: just like, It's the worst quarterback I've ever seen. Like,
[5:49] Speaker 1: I couldn't believe anybody saw anything other than the worst
[5:51] Speaker 1: quarterback I'd ever seen. Oh, my God. And that led
[5:53] Speaker 1: to a good two, three months of them putting me
[5:56] Speaker 1: on TV on Monday to lose my goddamn mind on
[5:59] Speaker 1: TV in front of God and everybody. I just couldn't
[6:01] Speaker 1: take it. Like, you just find all kinds of clips
[6:03] Speaker 1: with me where my head in my hands just can't
[6:06] Speaker 1: believe what's going on here. Like, and they keep winning.
[6:09] Speaker 1: It just keeps going. I don't... I can't understand what
[6:16] Speaker 1: is going on here, right? And I was fighting against it.
[6:20] Speaker 1: I felt like I was fighting against it. You know what, man?
[6:24] Speaker 1: I think I'm going to say this to Shador, to
[6:28] Speaker 1: the fans, everybody. I'm going to say this perhaps on
[6:32] Speaker 1: behalf of the people in my line of work, man. Man,
[6:36] Speaker 1: let's just get this money. You know what I'm saying?
[6:40] Speaker 1: Can like, let's just get this money. Is there a
[6:42] Speaker 1: peaceful way for us to get this money right? Because
[6:45] Speaker 1: this really gets the people going. I will never understand
[6:49] Speaker 1: how Shador Sanders of all people became inspirational to folks.
[6:53] Speaker 1: That is the most mind blowing part about this is
[6:56] Speaker 1: the idea that this is a feel good story. I
[6:59] Speaker 1: don't get that. I don't get the investment that people
[7:03] Speaker 1: have in him. None of this makes any sense, but
[7:05] Speaker 1: it's here. We there. We might as well just get
[7:09] Speaker 1: this money.
[7:10] Speaker 2: I think a lot of it comes from people feel–
[7:14] Speaker 2: I think the Shador Hive feels aggrieved that he got–
[7:19] Speaker 2: of the perceived lack in his draft stock and the
[7:23] Speaker 2: fact that he went in the fifth round. And then
[7:25] Speaker 2: I think he has become one of the most shocking
[7:30] Speaker 2: underdog stories I've ever seen.
[7:33] Speaker 1: There's a difference between.
[7:35] Speaker 2: The shocking perception of an underdog.
[7:37] Speaker 4: Yes, yes.
[7:38] Speaker 1: And I want you to stay on screen with me
[7:39] Speaker 1: because I want to know if you feel where I'm
[7:42] Speaker 1: coming from on this, okay? There is a difference between
[7:47] Speaker 1: being an underdog and not being that good.
[7:51] Speaker 3: Correct.
[7:52] Speaker 1: No, like, being an underdog... in the way that we
[7:56] Speaker 1: talk about this, is like, oh, he's not actually that...
[8:01] Speaker 1: I don't even know how to.
[8:03] Speaker 2: Brock Purdy is an underdog.
[8:06] Speaker 1: Yes. I think that's maybe a better way to put it.
[8:09] Speaker 5: Um.
[8:10] Speaker 1: I mean, Cam Ward is an underdog. I think that's
[8:13] Speaker 1: the distinction that I'm looking for here. Cam Ward, former, what,
[8:17] Speaker 1: zero-star recruit for West Columbia, Texas, who goes to Incarnate
[8:21] Speaker 1: Word and then goes to Wazoo and then winds up
[8:24] Speaker 1: at Miami and becomes a Heisman finalist and becomes the
[8:26] Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft. That is an underdog.
[8:31] Speaker 1: This guy who has had a whole slew of advantages
[8:37] Speaker 1: and the greatest advantage at all, a father with the
[8:40] Speaker 1: power to be able to become a coach at all
[8:42] Speaker 1: these places to shepherd you through to get to the
[8:45] Speaker 1: point where you get to the NFL. This is not
[8:48] Speaker 1: an underdog story, right? They don't make rich underdogs, right?
[8:53] Speaker 1: I don't think Tom Brady is not an underdog story.
[8:56] Speaker 1: What the fuck in Michigan? All right.
[8:58] Speaker 2: Is Josh Allen an underdog to you?
[9:03] Speaker 1: He's a late bloomer.
[9:05] Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good distinction.
[9:08] Speaker 1: Right, he's a late bloomer, but it's hard to be
[9:10] Speaker 1: that big, that strong, that fast, that everything.
[9:15] Speaker 2: Is Baker Mayfield an underdog?
[9:18] Speaker 1: Kinda, yeah.
[9:20] Speaker 2: Here's my favorite, and I apologize if this makes you upset.
[9:24] Speaker 2: Do you know where I'm going with this?
[9:26] Speaker 1: I do not.
[9:27] Speaker 2: Is Jalen Hurts an underdog?
[9:30] Speaker 1: Huh. Another interesting case. I mean, he's another very highly
[9:36] Speaker 1: touted recruit.
[9:37] Speaker 2: Who went to Alabama.
[9:39] Speaker 1: And Oklahoma. Yeah. He just has a ceiling on his talents.
[9:44] Speaker 3: Right?
[9:44] Speaker 1: I think that's where this gets to be fun is
[9:46] Speaker 1: an underdog apparently is whatever you want it to be.
[9:49] Speaker 2: Right.
[9:50] Speaker 1: We can turn anybody to underdog. Brock Purdy, underdog. Brock
[9:53] Speaker 1: Purdy was an all-conference quarterback in college.
[9:56] Speaker 2: People made Steph Curry out to be an underdog in
[9:58] Speaker 2: the LeBron versus LeBron. James and talk about you know
[10:01] Speaker 2: father with lots of advantages growing up you know.
[10:04] Speaker 1: Yeah but but the thing I would say about Steph
[10:06] Speaker 1: in terms of that where he becomes an interesting underdog
[10:08] Speaker 1: case is none he was so small when he got
[10:11] Speaker 1: to college right like if you watch the college version
[10:13] Speaker 1: of Steph Curry Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see, and he
[10:17] Speaker 1: went to Davidson. He did not play high level AAU basketball.
[10:21] Speaker 1: So there was access to certain things, but the application
[10:24] Speaker 1: was very, very interesting. But yeah, you, let me tell
[10:26] Speaker 1: you the best example of this. I don't know if
[10:28] Speaker 1: you remember this, but it was in 2010. The first
[10:31] Speaker 1: year that Calipari was at Kentucky. And Kentucky played against
[10:36] Speaker 1: Cornell University. In the sweet 16. Right. The argument was
[10:40] Speaker 1: that Cornell was this team of underdogs playing against a
[10:43] Speaker 1: team with Eric Bledsoe, who, as I recall, spent a
[10:46] Speaker 1: significant portion of his high school life sleeping in a car. Yes.
[10:50] Speaker 1: But he was a five star recruit. Right. And it's like,
[10:53] Speaker 1: who's the underdog? The Ivy League kids or John Wall,
[10:59] Speaker 1: who where I met his high school coach, it was like, yeah,
[11:01] Speaker 1: you go to John's house right now. You'll see his
[11:03] Speaker 1: mama hanging clothes on the line. You know what I mean? Like,
[11:07] Speaker 1: who's really the underdog here? Right. You know, and it
[11:09] Speaker 1: gets weird. It's difficult for me to put Shador as
[11:13] Speaker 1: being an underdog in part because clearly a lot of
[11:16] Speaker 1: people are betting on him. There's clearly a lot of
[11:20] Speaker 1: people that are on this. I think it's great for
[11:23] Speaker 1: him that he got a start in the NFL and
[11:25] Speaker 1: that that start went as well as it did. I
[11:27] Speaker 1: think it worked out well for him that he got
[11:29] Speaker 1: to play against some bums and it made everybody so
[11:32] Speaker 1: mad with the Raiders that they lost to the Browns
[11:35] Speaker 1: that Chip Kelly got fired.
[11:37] Speaker 4: Right.
[11:38] Speaker 1: Yeah. It was like, hey, man, dude, that's the first
[11:41] Speaker 1: Raiders game I think I've watched like for real because
[11:43] Speaker 1: I watched a lot of that game.
[11:46] Speaker 2: Hey, man.
[11:47] Speaker 1: Geno Smith about to lose his mind up in here,
[11:51] Speaker 1: up in here.
[11:51] Speaker 2: They're bad.
[11:53] Speaker 1: They're bad. I mean, the Browns sacked them 10 times.
[11:59] Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like the kind of sacks where
[12:01] Speaker 2: you like, you know, we're not exactly, you know, football
[12:04] Speaker 2: exes or geniuses. And it was like, is that guy
[12:08] Speaker 2: supposed to block Miles Garrett by himself? Is this person
[12:13] Speaker 2: I've never heard of going to take on Miles Garrett?
[12:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
[12:17] Speaker 2: Who's about to break the sack record before December 1st.
[12:20] Speaker 1: Like, oh, so you're guarding Jokic.
[12:23] Speaker 2: Exactly.
[12:23] Speaker 1: You're 6'4. Like, how is this happening? And so, good
[12:29] Speaker 1: for Shador. I mean, he did not play poorly, right?
[12:33] Speaker 1: You don't blame somebody. He got the touchdown pass. It's
[12:36] Speaker 1: the touchdown pass. It's what it is. But it's going
[12:37] Speaker 1: to look better on paper than it did in application.
[12:40] Speaker 1: He looked like he made some pretty good throws. Like,
[12:42] Speaker 1: he absolutely should be starting next week. See, that's the
[12:45] Speaker 1: other thing for Stefanski. it makes it very difficult to
[12:48] Speaker 1: defend the way that you have dealt with Shador and
[12:52] Speaker 1: the way Dylan Gabriel has played after that game. Like
[12:55] Speaker 1: no matter what is going to happen when he goes
[12:57] Speaker 1: back and watches the film and he can probably parse
[13:00] Speaker 1: and point out more errors than the lay person is
[13:02] Speaker 1: going to be able to under those circumstances. But you
[13:04] Speaker 1: have a hard time explaining to people why it was
[13:06] Speaker 1: that you kept Hawaii five, nine out there and didn't
[13:09] Speaker 1: play Shador after that game. It's going to be tough, right?
[13:12] Speaker 1: Cause I don't really see it to be perfectly honest. Like,
[13:16] Speaker 1: He said he's going to wait and see who's going
[13:17] Speaker 1: to be the starter next week. No, no, no, no, no.
[13:19] Speaker 1: Let me tell you right now, Shador's going to be
[13:20] Speaker 1: your starter next week. I mean, I could be wrong here,
[13:24] Speaker 1: but if Shador is inspiring the people in the streets
[13:27] Speaker 1: like this, I bet he got some people in the
[13:28] Speaker 1: locker room there, and they just won that game, and
[13:31] Speaker 1: you're going to have to look at them and explain
[13:32] Speaker 1: why you're going to go back to Dylan Gabriel. No, sir,
[13:35] Speaker 1: that's not going to happen. Shador's going to be your
[13:36] Speaker 1: starter next week.
[13:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, football players aren't interested in this tanking.
[13:39] Speaker 1: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>.
[13:43] Speaker 2: And then here's the thing. Like if, if he goes
[13:45] Speaker 2: out there and beats a Bob solid defense, I mean,
[13:47] Speaker 2: they've got a bunch of injuries on that 49ers side
[13:49] Speaker 2: of the ball, but that's playing a real defensive coordinator
[13:52] Speaker 2: and they're, you know, they're fighting for playoff position.
[13:55] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[13:56] Speaker 2: So like, you know, this is this is another real
[13:58] Speaker 2: test to see what he's got.
[13:59] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[14:00] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[14:00] Speaker 1: He's got you got to play him. Like that was
[14:02] Speaker 1: the thing that happened with Tebow after they had that
[14:04] Speaker 1: comeback against the Chargers. You got to put him out here,
[14:08] Speaker 1: whether you like it or not. You're going to need
[14:09] Speaker 1: to make peace with this.
[14:10] Speaker 4: Right.
[14:10] Speaker 1: Because us over here, we're going to be getting this
[14:13] Speaker 1: money and we're going to be getting this money by
[14:15] Speaker 1: talking about this a lot. And I swear, I don't
[14:19] Speaker 1: know if it's just the Internet giving it to me.
[14:22] Speaker 1: People is not trying to hear about Joe Dillon Gabriel
[14:24] Speaker 1: right now, brother. Just telling you right now, they're not
[14:27] Speaker 1: trying to hear it. I will tell you, however, what
[14:30] Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hear, which is another word that
[14:32] Speaker 1: Shador Sanders has to actually say out of his own mouth. Ryan,
[14:37] Speaker 1: somebody needs to explain to him that all these things
[14:39] Speaker 1: you just need to stop. I'm trying to show these
[14:42] Speaker 1: people that I'm what they've been waiting for. Just play
[14:45] Speaker 1: a couple of games, big dawg. Bring it down. We
[14:49] Speaker 1: was talking about how I grew up in a 30,000-square-foot house,
[14:52] Speaker 1: but my daddy took me to the hood to get
[14:55] Speaker 1: that dog in me. Son, you play in five-figure watches. Like,
[15:03] Speaker 1: this is not... Like, if I... I mean, let me
[15:05] Speaker 1: tell you, he took you over there to get that
[15:07] Speaker 1: dog in you, but he didn't leave you there.
[15:09] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[15:10] Speaker 1: I bet he kept his eye on you. Like, I don't... Don't... Hey, man, just...
[15:17] Speaker 1: Just keep going. Just, just, just. I'm here to help
[15:21] Speaker 1: him right now in this. Just keep going. You got
[15:27] Speaker 1: a good start here. You might be able to start
[15:29] Speaker 1: for the rest of the year, right? You might be
[15:31] Speaker 1: able to. You might position yourself well for the quarterback
[15:35] Speaker 1: controversy that's going to happen next year, right? Like, just
[15:37] Speaker 1: try to keep Dylan Gabriel off the field.
[15:39] Speaker 2: And you get to play against the Titans.
[15:42] Speaker 1: You do.
[15:42] Speaker 2: The Bears.
[15:43] Speaker 1: Yes.
[15:45] Speaker 2: You know, oh, God.
[15:46] Speaker 1: Ugh.
[15:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got to play the Bills and the Steelers.
[15:50] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[15:51] Speaker 2: And then he gets a free one against the Bengals
[15:53] Speaker 2: when they're all, you know.
[15:55] Speaker 1: He does.
[15:55] Speaker 4: He does.
[15:56] Speaker 2: At the end of the year.
[15:57] Speaker 1: Be cool, baby. Be cool. That's all I'm saying. If
[16:00] Speaker 1: you can be as cool about this as you can,
[16:02] Speaker 1: this can work out for you. I think it's best
[16:04] Speaker 1: for him to leave Cleveland if he wants to play somewhere. Like,
[16:06] Speaker 1: I think you're positioning yourself for a future that is
[16:08] Speaker 1: not for the team for which you play right now.
[16:11] Speaker 1: I also know that Cleveland is consistently a cluster of
[16:15] Speaker 1: There's no telling what Jimmy Haslam thought after that game.
[16:18] Speaker 1: There's no telling what Matthew Barry, I mean, not Matthew Barry,
[16:21] Speaker 1: Andrew Barry. Big difference between the two. Andrew Barry made
[16:26] Speaker 1: the trade to go get him. Right? So there's some
[16:29] Speaker 1: level of belief that's there. Can you imagine the group text,
[16:32] Speaker 1: the conference call, whatever it is between the Cleveland Browns
[16:35] Speaker 1: brain trust that they're having about this?
[16:39] Speaker 2: And speaking of places where he might end up, he
[16:41] Speaker 2: might be, he might be looking for places in Vegas.
[16:45] Speaker 1: He, could but they need to go get a real
[16:47] Speaker 1: live quarterback too.
[16:49] Speaker 2: But people are gonna people might think he's a real
[16:51] Speaker 2: live quarterback after that game.
[16:52] Speaker 1: They they might they might but i don't know if
[16:54] Speaker 1: pete carroll is one of those people i think pete
[16:56] Speaker 1: carroll is going to go back and watch that film
[16:58] Speaker 1: and curse out his own guys yeah right and so
[17:02] Speaker 1: let me tell you buddy bob was at a bar
[17:04] Speaker 1: he said um oh yeah yeah yeah they got a
[17:07] Speaker 1: bind my good buddy cory urban you know he's a
[17:08] Speaker 1: browns fan for reasons that don't make any sense that's
[17:11] Speaker 1: incredible He said last week there was, and this is
[17:14] Speaker 1: in Toronto, but he said last week there were seven
[17:16] Speaker 1: people at the Browns backer bar. Today it was absolutely packed.
[17:19] Speaker 1: Two 80 plus year old men came out for the
[17:21] Speaker 1: first time this year because they said it was the
[17:23] Speaker 1: first time they felt hope in a while. It don't matter.
[17:28] Speaker 1: The football part barely matters, guys. Like, let's get this money.
[17:35] Speaker 1: Shador Mania, baby. Let's print out these t-shirts. Let's just
[17:39] Speaker 1: ride this out. I don't even know if I need
[17:41] Speaker 1: to have opinions about this anymore. I've stated how I
[17:44] Speaker 1: feel about him.
[17:45] Speaker 2: Let's just have some fun.
[17:47] Speaker 1: I'm going to give him credit when he plays well.
[17:49] Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest when he does it. But
[17:50] Speaker 1: in the meantime, tween time, the best kind of fun,
[17:53] Speaker 1: the kind of fun where the black people and the
[17:55] Speaker 1: white people might start fighting. And by the way, it's
[17:59] Speaker 1: not just the black people and the white people. It's
[18:01] Speaker 1: the black people and the black people who send me
[18:03] Speaker 1: texts about it because they don't want to talk about
[18:05] Speaker 1: it in front of people because it's getting just a
[18:08] Speaker 1: little bit dicey out here in these streets. Nobody wants
[18:12] Speaker 1: to be called a rope. You understand what I'm saying?
[18:14] Speaker 5: Right?
[18:15] Speaker 1: Nobody wants to just be like, oh, you be ruffling
[18:17] Speaker 1: through trash in the dumpster. You feel what I'm saying?
[18:21] Speaker 1: Nobody wants that. But let's just get this money, man.
[18:26] Speaker 1: Let's just get this money because otherwise... It's going to
[18:29] Speaker 1: drive me crazy. Speaking of being driven crazy, I'm so
[18:38] Speaker 1: glad I don't root for the Eagles.
[18:41] Speaker 2: My gosh.
[18:42] Speaker 1: That was embarrassing.
[18:43] Speaker 4: Yes.
[18:44] Speaker 1: Because I watched, it was 21-0. And it just looked
[18:47] Speaker 1: like they was waxing them. And so I went to
[18:49] Speaker 1: go check out what was going on with the Browns.
[18:51] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like I knew I needed
[18:52] Speaker 1: to have some eyeballs of what was happening with that game.
[18:56] Speaker 1: I come back. it's 21 to 14. The Eagles suddenly
[19:01] Speaker 1: can't move the ball anymore. The Cowboys are chipping away.
[19:05] Speaker 1: I saw Aubrey miss a field goal. I'm like, oh,
[19:08] Speaker 1: it really ain't Cowboys day. And they won. Like, I mean,
[19:12] Speaker 1: the Eagles had some like, what did they muff a punt?
[19:14] Speaker 1: I want to say there was a Saquon Barkley fumble. Right.
[19:17] Speaker 2: It was, it was, It was snatching defeat from the
[19:22] Speaker 2: jaws of victory in a way that I haven't seen.
[19:24] Speaker 2: I mean, they haven't blown a 21-point lead in over
[19:27] Speaker 2: 25 years. Their offense just turns off in a way
[19:34] Speaker 2: that I can't remember seeing from a contender.
[19:36] Speaker 1: They were squared up against the Make-A-Wish Foundation, and the
[19:39] Speaker 1: Make-A-Wish Foundation is like, hey, make a wish, and the
[19:42] Speaker 1: Eagles were like, nah, we good. We straight. Couldn't do it. A.J.
[19:48] Speaker 1: Brown got his 100 yards receiving. I guess that was
[19:51] Speaker 1: good for him. But nah, bruh. Nah, bruh. And Jalen Hurts.
[19:57] Speaker 2: Text I sent you at 518 p.m. Eastern time.
[20:00] Speaker 1: Yes.
[20:01] Speaker 2: Cowboys defense is making A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith's dreams
[20:06] Speaker 2: come true.
[20:07] Speaker 1: Yes, they were.
[20:07] Speaker 2: And then.
[20:09] Speaker 1: Not really so much after that. And I want to
[20:13] Speaker 1: make sure that I get this right. By the way,
[20:15] Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts had 289 yards. They were really handling business
[20:20] Speaker 1: in the first half, but they could not run the ball.
[20:23] Speaker 1: And that is, look, the fundamental story about this team
[20:26] Speaker 1: is that if you want to play the way that
[20:27] Speaker 1: they are playing, you got to be able to run
[20:28] Speaker 1: the ball. Like all the receiver guys, they all got
[20:31] Speaker 1: their money. You know what I'm saying? I mean, they
[20:33] Speaker 1: got their opportunities. They got their stuff. Let me go
[20:36] Speaker 1: find the quote, that uh that that hurts gabe or
[20:41] Speaker 1: it was the headline that i saw on espn.com and
[20:45] Speaker 1: yeah the phrase that jumps out let me control f
[20:49] Speaker 1: and make sure i get to it because i'm like
[20:52] Speaker 1: oh buddy you can't do that here we go quote
[20:55] Speaker 1: we've got to own this one let it light a
[20:58] Speaker 1: fire in us as a team and stay together and
[21:01] Speaker 1: move forward brother brother brother brother brother I don't think
[21:05] Speaker 1: you need to be talking to people right now about
[21:06] Speaker 1: lighting a fire because they will, they want to light
[21:10] Speaker 1: you on fire. Even though this wasn't your fault in
[21:12] Speaker 1: this game per se, I don't think nobody wants to
[21:16] Speaker 1: hear that from you right now. Like everything that we're
[21:19] Speaker 1: hearing at every turn is about how people don't want
[21:22] Speaker 1: to hear this from him.
[21:25] Speaker 2: Right. He can't be the messenger.
[21:28] Speaker 1: He doesn't want to. And see the thing about Philly,
[21:30] Speaker 1: Philly's interesting. Um, I remember when the NAACP wrote that
[21:37] Speaker 1: letter about Donovan McNabb telling him to get it going.
[21:40] Speaker 1: I was like, damn, the NAACP?
[21:43] Speaker 2: I did not know about this.
[21:45] Speaker 1: Oh, yes. I forget what. I think the criticism was
[21:48] Speaker 1: that he doesn't run enough. They were just like, yo,
[21:50] Speaker 1: you need to tap into your roots, basically, which is
[21:52] Speaker 1: a little shaky and get out there. But yeah, the
[21:54] Speaker 1: NAACP of Philadelphia put out something about Donovan McNabb trying
[21:58] Speaker 1: to light a fire under him. You looking it up?
[22:00] Speaker 1: You seeing it? You see what I'm talking about?
[22:02] Speaker 4: Yes.
[22:02] Speaker 1: Yes, this really. And be your old people sometimes. And
[22:07] Speaker 1: this is the thing about Philadelphia and black quarterbacks or
[22:10] Speaker 1: black coaches or whatever it is. It's the ones from
[22:12] Speaker 1: out of town that'll put on their cape for you.
[22:15] Speaker 1: The local ones turn to white folks when things are
[22:18] Speaker 1: not going well because they want to win just like
[22:20] Speaker 1: white folks do, right? And that's Philadelphia for you. We
[22:26] Speaker 1: will not be here to save you, brother, in Philadelphia
[22:30] Speaker 1: when this goes down. That's what I'm telling you. And
[22:34] Speaker 1: Here's how crazy the Eagles season is also, Rod. I
[22:36] Speaker 1: told you this yesterday. The Eagles have the biggest divisional
[22:41] Speaker 1: lead in the league. This is after losing a game
[22:44] Speaker 1: to the second place team.
[22:45] Speaker 3: Correct.
[22:46] Speaker 1: They are by far going to win their division. Nobody
[22:49] Speaker 1: else can say this.
[22:52] Speaker 2: Right. They had the one seed until the Rams had
[22:55] Speaker 2: that beat down last night, too.
[22:56] Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
[22:57] Speaker 3: Yes.
[22:58] Speaker 1: But this is the second time in three years that–
[23:01] Speaker 1: and by the way, they're 8-3. Right.
[23:02] Speaker 3: Right.
[23:03] Speaker 1: Let me be careful and clear. But this is the
[23:06] Speaker 1: second time in three years that they've had a team
[23:08] Speaker 1: where it just felt like it ain't right.
[23:10] Speaker 4: Right.
[23:10] Speaker 1: Now, the last time they had a suffered from a
[23:12] Speaker 1: stunning epic collapse in 2023. Of course, they just came
[23:16] Speaker 1: behind that and won the Super Bowl the year after that.
[23:19] Speaker 2: They went to the Super Bowl, had the epic collapse
[23:22] Speaker 2: where they played against the Bucs, and it looks like
[23:24] Speaker 2: they all quit out there.
[23:25] Speaker 5: Yes.
[23:25] Speaker 2: They won the Super Bowl and then whatever we're getting
[23:28] Speaker 2: this year. And I mean, they still got to play.
[23:30] Speaker 2: The Bears, the Chargers, and the Bills. They do not
[23:33] Speaker 2: have an easy road towards the next two months.
[23:38] Speaker 1: Ryan, what a weird everything. Do you know Nick Sirianni's
[23:41] Speaker 1: career record as a head coach?
[23:43] Speaker 2: I think it's something like 46-21.
[23:44] Speaker 3: 56-22.
[23:45] Speaker 2: You see all.
[23:46] Speaker 1: The stats where it's like he's got like a.
[23:51] Speaker 2: John Madden-esque record. Yes. If you just look at the numbers,
[24:00] Speaker 2: he's one of the greatest. He's 56-22 with a Super Bowl.
[24:03] Speaker 1: Yes.
[24:05] Speaker 2: It's the same start of the career that Jimmy Johnson had.
[24:07] Speaker 1: Yes.
[24:07] Speaker 2: Without the bad first year.
[24:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, with two trips to the Super Bowl.
[24:10] Speaker 3: Right.
[24:11] Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, the first trip, didn't it
[24:14] Speaker 1: go to overtime or something? It wasn't overtime.
[24:16] Speaker 2: No, they kicked the field goal right at the gun.
[24:19] Speaker 1: Yes, yes. But like... And none of us believe, dog.
[24:24] Speaker 1: None of us believe. None of us see it. Like,
[24:27] Speaker 1: none of this. None of this. And I just watched that.
[24:29] Speaker 1: And the Cowboys look really thrilled to move their way
[24:32] Speaker 1: up to, what is it, 5-5-1? Is that where they
[24:36] Speaker 1: have gotten themselves to?
[24:37] Speaker 2: Talk about let's get this money. Cowboys just staying relevant
[24:41] Speaker 2: right before they go play the Chiefs on Thursday.
[24:43] Speaker 1: Let me tell you, ain't nobody saying let's get this
[24:45] Speaker 1: money quite like that boy George Pickens. George Pickens looked
[24:51] Speaker 1: amazing in that game.
[24:53] Speaker 2: They have to keep him.
[24:56] Speaker 1: Well, look, Jerry didn't get him to not keep him, right?
[24:59] Speaker 1: The question is, what language are we going to use
[25:02] Speaker 1: in this paperwork to protect us from the invariable regression
[25:06] Speaker 1: that's going to come once he has already got his money?
[25:08] Speaker 2: And it's also like the classic Jerry Jones of he
[25:12] Speaker 2: is a very great player. big time receiver he is
[25:16] Speaker 2: also going into a contract extension that we are going
[25:19] Speaker 2: to delay until probably august 25th that is correct and
[25:23] Speaker 2: he is a ticking time bomb of being unhappy before
[25:27] Speaker 2: and after he gets.
[25:28] Speaker 1: This money or just being weird right correct just just
[25:32] Speaker 1: being one of the two man what what a weird
[25:35] Speaker 1: sunday of football so i'm looking over here at this
[25:37] Speaker 1: and let me just the chiefs who looked terrible in
[25:41] Speaker 1: that first half against Indianapolis.
[25:43] Speaker 2: Looked terrible in the third quarter, too.
[25:44] Speaker 1: Looked terrible. Somehow managed to get that. And look, Mahomes
[25:47] Speaker 1: doesn't look good. Like, I don't know what's going on,
[25:50] Speaker 1: but he specifically looked bad. This was not just a
[25:53] Speaker 1: matter of, oh, he's Patrick Mahomes, but the team is da-da-da.
[25:55] Speaker 1: He looked like a big part of the problem in
[25:58] Speaker 1: the course of that game. But Indianapolis, man, the Chiefs said,
[26:04] Speaker 1: beat us, Daniel Jones. And Daniel Jones was like, No,
[26:08] Speaker 1: thank you. I'd love to, but just don't think I'm
[26:13] Speaker 1: going to be able to get that done for you fellas.
[26:14] Speaker 4: Right.
[26:16] Speaker 1: What other weird old game did we have in the
[26:18] Speaker 1: course of this? The lions.
[26:24] Speaker 2: Yes.
[26:27] Speaker 1: Brother, brother, brother. That was not. Hey, Dan. No, no, no.
[26:33] Speaker 1: It ain't going to be that. Mike Kafka, apparently he
[26:34] Speaker 1: didn't want to be the coach of the Giants because
[26:36] Speaker 1: he lost it with that one. I didn't think it
[26:37] Speaker 1: was a ridiculous idea to be up three and to
[26:40] Speaker 1: go for it short. And I think Greg Olson has
[26:42] Speaker 1: talked about this with the change in the kickoff rules
[26:45] Speaker 1: that you're giving them back the ball on the 35.
[26:49] Speaker 1: In all likelihood, if you kick it off, you might
[26:51] Speaker 1: as well.
[26:51] Speaker 2: Yeah, if you go up six, kicking the field goal
[26:54] Speaker 2: to go up six does nothing for you.
[26:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you might as well try to
[26:56] Speaker 1: win the game. And they did not. And look, the
[26:58] Speaker 1: Lions tied it up on like a 59-yard field goal.
[27:01] Speaker 1: I don't care if it's indoors. I don't care if
[27:04] Speaker 1: it's 20-25.
[27:05] Speaker 2: That's never a gimme.
[27:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, no, no, no, no.
[27:10] Speaker 1: Over here, those of us who root for America's team,
[27:13] Speaker 1: we're like, no, no, no, no, no. By the way, Jameis,
[27:17] Speaker 1: see you, big dog. Yeah. See you, big dog. And hey,
[27:20] Speaker 1: it's vibes. It's making everybody feel good. It's vibes. Tampa Bay,
[27:25] Speaker 1: they got a problem because I don't know how long
[27:29] Speaker 1: it's going to be. Like, Baker, it's the other arm
[27:33] Speaker 1: that he hurt. He's got a sprained left shoulder. But
[27:38] Speaker 1: he down bad. And correct me if I'm wrong, Ryan,
[27:41] Speaker 1: they are now tied at the top of that division?
[27:45] Speaker 2: I believe, let's just take this.
[27:46] Speaker 1: The Carolina Panthers, much to my surprise.
[27:49] Speaker 2: Are 6-5. Yeah, they're both 6-5.
[27:52] Speaker 1: Who knew?
[27:53] Speaker 2: Both with negative point differentials.
[27:56] Speaker 1: Yes, yes. By the way, the Eagles' point differential is
[27:58] Speaker 1: something like plus 33, being 8-3.
[28:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, point 30, exactly.
[28:04] Speaker 1: That's right, because they lost. They lost the game by
[28:06] Speaker 1: three points. They are low key, just not really that good. Right.
[28:13] Speaker 1: But they're not bad. Yeah. Like they literally defy explanation.
[28:20] Speaker 1: I don't have any answers for you on what to
[28:22] Speaker 1: say they are or they are not. But you can't
[28:27] Speaker 1: live like that. You know, I think that's just the
[28:29] Speaker 1: way that I look at it. Look at this situation.
[28:31] Speaker 1: You can't live like that. The Bears, another squeaker win.
[28:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, eight and three, negative three-point differential.
[28:37] Speaker 1: And Caleb Williams with another. Good enough. Like our guy
[28:41] Speaker 1: Nate Tice wrote a very interesting article for Yahoo about
[28:44] Speaker 1: how the Bears offense has actually been explosive and Caleb
[28:47] Speaker 1: Williams has actually been really good. But nothing in these
[28:50] Speaker 1: numbers says that to me right here. But like his QBR,
[28:54] Speaker 1: the advanced QBR one, is very high for the game.
[28:58] Speaker 1: He had three touchdowns. He had no interceptions. He only
[29:00] Speaker 1: had seven yards in attempt. I don't know how you
[29:02] Speaker 1: reconcile all of these ideas, but they all come together.
[29:07] Speaker 1: And we are hurtling toward November, December to remember because
[29:11] Speaker 1: I got no idea what's going to happen. I have
[29:14] Speaker 1: no idea what it means that your record is whatever
[29:16] Speaker 1: your record is. I have no gauge on what anybody
[29:20] Speaker 1: truly is in this league right now, who's actually good,
[29:24] Speaker 1: who's not. None of it makes any sense to me.
[29:28] Speaker 1: None at all. But hey guys, this is what we have.
[29:31] Speaker 1: This is where it's going. It should be a lot
[29:35] Speaker 1: of fun. And hopefully Shador Mania doesn't just make it
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[31:32] Speaker 2: All right, two quick stories from the weekend. Lane Kiffin's
[31:35] Speaker 2: decision is kind of what hovers over college football. Ross
[31:41] Speaker 2: Dellinger reported that LSU is preparing nearly a $ 90 billion offer.
[31:46] Speaker 2: He's also still considering Florida. The Ole Miss athletic director
[31:49] Speaker 2: came out and said they will make an announcement on
[31:51] Speaker 2: his future after the Egg Bowl on Friday. Bo, what
[31:53] Speaker 2: are your thoughts?
[31:54] Speaker 1: Just messy. He's just messy. Like, everything about him messy.
[31:59] Speaker 1: And I got a question for Ole Miss where they're like,
[32:02] Speaker 1: we're going to announce his decision after the Egg Bowl.
[32:06] Speaker 1: How do you know you're going to announce the decision
[32:07] Speaker 1: after the Egg Bowl? You're dealing with Lane. Like, do
[32:10] Speaker 1: you guys have a decision that you're going to make?
[32:13] Speaker 1: Are you going to fire Lane Kiffin after the Egg Bowl?
[32:16] Speaker 1: Because that's the only way that you get to say
[32:19] Speaker 1: that you will make a decision. What, did Lane make
[32:22] Speaker 1: an agreement with you That this is what we're going
[32:24] Speaker 1: to do?
[32:25] Speaker 2: A week is a long time in college football.
[32:28] Speaker 1: Especially for somebody who doesn't seem to think stuff out.
[32:33] Speaker 1: Forget about college football. A week is a long time
[32:36] Speaker 1: in the world of Lane Kiffin. What are we doing here?
[32:42] Speaker 1: What is this in total? And I got to say,
[32:46] Speaker 1: this is where it gets interesting for me. I'm not
[32:50] Speaker 1: that old-fashioned, but I totally understand the people who are
[32:53] Speaker 1: raising the question of how could you do this when
[32:56] Speaker 1: you have a team that's going to the playoff, right?
[32:59] Speaker 1: How can you do this with the best team in
[33:02] Speaker 1: the history of the school? And I think that this
[33:04] Speaker 1: is different than, for example, Brian Kelly being the coach
[33:08] Speaker 1: at Cincinnati and then leaving to go to Notre Dame
[33:12] Speaker 1: before it's all done, right? This is one that you
[33:17] Speaker 1: kind of ride out. Like you got a team that
[33:19] Speaker 1: could really make some noise here and you may never
[33:23] Speaker 1: get back to this place again knowing you. You kind
[33:26] Speaker 1: of got to wait till next year, right? Like that's
[33:30] Speaker 1: my thought in this is that this is not necessarily
[33:33] Speaker 1: the time for you to make that move. But there
[33:35] Speaker 1: are two jobs that are available that we have all
[33:37] Speaker 1: thought were excellent to have. I'll just make the point
[33:40] Speaker 1: that You at the job you have had the last
[33:44] Speaker 1: couple of years have looked better than the coaches at
[33:47] Speaker 1: those jobs. And say what you want about Brian Kelly.
[33:49] Speaker 1: Brian Kelly is not a bad coach. Maybe you could
[33:52] Speaker 1: say he did not work it out. But Brian Kelly,
[33:53] Speaker 1: I keep saying people get mad at me, but he's
[33:55] Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame level coach. You could probably get
[33:58] Speaker 1: it done where you are. Like this isn't, this has
[34:00] Speaker 1: the great potential to make Lane Kiffin look really, really,
[34:04] Speaker 1: really bad. And by the way, and I don't know
[34:07] Speaker 1: if the committee would do this, but if they wanted to,
[34:10] Speaker 1: if Lane left, the committee could leave Ole Miss out
[34:13] Speaker 1: of there.
[34:14] Speaker 2: If it's close.
[34:15] Speaker 1: Yeah, just like, hey, you're not the same team that
[34:17] Speaker 1: you were. And the problem that Lane has is Lane
[34:21] Speaker 1: can't do this like Urban Meyer after the 0-4 season
[34:24] Speaker 1: or other examples of guys that we've seen who get
[34:26] Speaker 1: to work out the job. And that's not going to
[34:28] Speaker 1: work making a move within the conference. Right, right. That's not,
[34:33] Speaker 1: nobody's going to let you do a commercial. Like Ole
[34:35] Speaker 1: Miss is not letting you do a commercial for Florida
[34:37] Speaker 1: or LSU for the rest of this, right? I am
[34:41] Speaker 1: just reminded at every turn just how much I hate
[34:44] Speaker 1: this person that I don't know. I can't stand him.
[34:49] Speaker 1: Everything about this, I hate. He's the only one that
[34:54] Speaker 1: would just lean into how messy this is at every turn.
[34:58] Speaker 1: And it didn't have to be this messy. It doesn't.
[35:03] Speaker 1: To me, you'll know how messy he is if he
[35:08] Speaker 1: goes to fucking LSU. And Ryan, no disrespect, but you
[35:12] Speaker 1: know how messy that situation is right now. Like you
[35:15] Speaker 1: add his mess to your mess. I don't think you're
[35:19] Speaker 1: going to like how that goes.
[35:22] Speaker 2: I can't imagine. There is no situation where this goes great.
[35:28] Speaker 2: We are going to make an announcement on this day
[35:31] Speaker 2: is going to make a lot of people look bad.
[35:34] Speaker 2: It's almost like we had this very famous example about
[35:36] Speaker 2: 15 years ago. We announced this very famous decision. And
[35:41] Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin is the only person in the universe who'd
[35:43] Speaker 2: be like, that's an awesome idea. Let's do that.
[35:51] Speaker 1: Right.
[35:52] Speaker 2: That went well for everyone involved. Let's do it exactly
[35:56] Speaker 2: that way.
[35:57] Speaker 1: We have all this noise surrounding this when he is
[36:01] Speaker 1: so obviously the spiritual successor to Steve Spurrier. If you're
[36:04] Speaker 1: going to do this, Florida is the place for you
[36:06] Speaker 1: to go. There's no question about this. And then Spencer
[36:10] Speaker 1: gets to deal with him. And that'll be fun to watch.
[36:14] Speaker 1: I can't stand this movie.
[36:15] Speaker 2: So your three options are he stays at Ole Miss,
[36:18] Speaker 2: which you've stayed your feelings about that university. Yes. Spencer
[36:23] Speaker 2: has to deal with him.
[36:24] Speaker 4: Correct.
[36:25] Speaker 2: Or I have to deal with him.
[36:26] Speaker 1: You and Van, yeah.
[36:27] Speaker 2: You and Van have to deal with him.
[36:29] Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys are going to– this is– I don't
[36:32] Speaker 1: know if anybody's going to be happy with the way
[36:34] Speaker 1: this goes in the end. Like they'll be happy at first.
[36:37] Speaker 1: But I don't know how happy they'll be in the end.
[36:39] Speaker 1: And by the way, all these criticisms I have of
[36:40] Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin, it ain't that easy to go find another
[36:43] Speaker 1: coach like him. He just gets to be forever young.
[36:45] Speaker 1: He's 50 years old, and we still think he's just
[36:47] Speaker 1: this close.
[36:47] Speaker 2: He's just this close. And how is Ole Miss going
[36:51] Speaker 2: to feel? You're going to do this every year? You're
[36:54] Speaker 2: going to get dragged along?
[36:55] Speaker 1: And so that's the other issue, right? He's clearly– people don't–
[37:00] Speaker 1: that Ole Miss job is weird. It should be better.
[37:02] Speaker 1: It's not better. We all know why. Right? Like, I
[37:06] Speaker 1: think that's the best way to put it. Should be better,
[37:08] Speaker 1: is not better. We all know why. But you're right.
[37:11] Speaker 1: They're going to drag. It's going to be like this
[37:14] Speaker 1: all the time. I would just also like to point
[37:16] Speaker 1: out that for all this hullabaloo, they've beaten one good
[37:20] Speaker 1: team this year. And that was Oklahoma. That's the only
[37:27] Speaker 1: good win they've got.
[37:30] Speaker 5: All right.
[37:30] Speaker 2: One quick story. The internet went ablaze on Friday as
[37:35] Speaker 2: a Mayor-elect Joran Mondami for New York City went to
[37:38] Speaker 2: go meet with President Trump and seems to have won
[37:42] Speaker 2: him over. Let's take a quick listen.
[37:44] Speaker 1: Clarifying your answer to Stephen Nelson, he asked about your
[37:48] Speaker 1: comment calling the president a fascist. And your answer was,
[37:53] Speaker 1: with President Trump and I, we've been clear about our
[37:55] Speaker 1: positions and our views. Are you affirming that you think.
[37:58] Speaker 3: President Trump is a fascist?
[38:00] Speaker 2: I've spoken about. That's okay. You can just say yes.
[38:03] Speaker 1: Okay.
[38:04] Speaker 4: It's easier.
[38:05] Speaker 1: It's easier than explaining it. I don't mind. Yo! That
[38:14] Speaker 1: was an amazing Friday. Thursday, Trump is like, the communist
[38:19] Speaker 1: is coming. By the end of it, he's like, my son. Right?
[38:26] Speaker 1: He likes him so much more than he likes J.D. Vance.
[38:30] Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
[38:31] Speaker 1: He's going to tell J.D. Vance to ask Zoran how
[38:35] Speaker 1: he keep his beard like.
[38:38] Speaker 3: That.
[38:38] Speaker 1: That was top to bottom, the wildest thing. Now, I
[38:41] Speaker 1: think people were a little too surprised at the fact
[38:44] Speaker 1: that they could figure something out. They have a thing
[38:47] Speaker 1: in common. And look, no matter what Zoran is saying
[38:49] Speaker 1: in public about a lot of these establishment Democrats right now, okay?
[38:54] Speaker 1: Zoran and Trump got one major thing in common. The
[38:58] Speaker 1: people that don't like Zoran also don't like Trump. Like
[39:04] Speaker 1: they have a Venn diagram overlap of the people with
[39:09] Speaker 1: whom it doesn't work that well. Okay. Now clearly Zoran
[39:12] Speaker 1: right now is on a honey greater than vinegar tour, right?
[39:16] Speaker 1: Like he's saying nice things about Hakeem Jeffries. He made
[39:18] Speaker 1: the move in there with Trump. And by the way,
[39:20] Speaker 1: didn't back down off anything he ever said about Trump,
[39:23] Speaker 1: but I think he went in there and was like, hey, man,
[39:25] Speaker 1: I'm from Queens. You from Queens. These the people that...
[39:30] Speaker 1: hate you. These the people that hate me. Right. Kind
[39:33] Speaker 1: of like that scene in The Wire where Avon and
[39:36] Speaker 1: Marlo meet in jail and Avon is talking about, you know,
[39:40] Speaker 1: but it's West Side. Fuck these East Side bitches. Right. Right.
[39:45] Speaker 1: There's the common ground, right? You West Side, I'm West
[39:48] Speaker 1: Side in this case, you know, Queens. But you Queens,
[39:51] Speaker 1: I'm Queens. You don't like Hakeem Jeffries, I don't like
[39:54] Speaker 1: Hakeem Jeffries. You don't like a whole list of them.
[39:57] Speaker 1: Think about this, man. They played Zoran like he was Arafat.
[40:01] Speaker 1: He showed up to meet with the president and they
[40:02] Speaker 1: took a vote to be like, we the Congress say
[40:04] Speaker 1: fuck Zoran. and everything he stands for, right? Like they
[40:08] Speaker 1: took a vote to condemn social, who has this kind
[40:12] Speaker 1: of time, right? Like, what are you doing? So he
[40:15] Speaker 1: goes in there, he meets with Trump. And I think Trump,
[40:17] Speaker 1: he's like, yo, I'm a man of the people. You're
[40:20] Speaker 1: a man of the people. You and I talked about this.
[40:22] Speaker 1: Trump likes people who present well on television. Like he
[40:25] Speaker 1: has a real game recognized game on that. He sees
[40:28] Speaker 1: that about Zoran. Zoran's like, why would I come in
[40:31] Speaker 1: here and fight this man? You know what that'll get us?
[40:33] Speaker 1: The National Guard. That's what that'll get us. No, I'm
[40:36] Speaker 1: gonna go down there and talk to him and be like, look, man,
[40:39] Speaker 1: you say you down for the people. I'm down for
[40:41] Speaker 1: the people. Let's get down for the people. And Trump
[40:43] Speaker 1: is like, get a load of this guy. Okay, I
[40:47] Speaker 1: see what time it is. And here we are. How
[40:54] Speaker 1: long would this last though, Ryan?
[40:55] Speaker 2: That's my question. These honeymoon phases are always quick, but
[40:59] Speaker 2: Trump is consistently impressed by a few things. Being good
[41:02] Speaker 2: on TV and telling him and finding nice things to
[41:07] Speaker 2: say about Trump.
[41:08] Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes.
[41:09] Speaker 1: Like I think people misunderstand something. It's a war going
[41:12] Speaker 1: on outside. No man is safe. But you do not,
[41:15] Speaker 1: there's no value to Zoran to go in there and
[41:17] Speaker 1: like raise in hell with Trump in there. No, Trump
[41:21] Speaker 1: is easy to game up, right? He is very, we've
[41:25] Speaker 1: seen his playbook for eight years and change, right? And
[41:28] Speaker 1: he just went in there.
[41:29] Speaker 2: I mean, this is as much the apprentice playbook as
[41:32] Speaker 2: it is the presidency playbook.
[41:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So he just went in there and I've
[41:35] Speaker 1: never seen more people just stunned and shocked. Zoran got game, man.
[41:39] Speaker 1: He goes in there with all these people. Now, of course,
[41:41] Speaker 1: Zoran's in this place and this happens with everybody that's
[41:44] Speaker 1: like him. It was going to be the case whether
[41:46] Speaker 1: it be Bernie Sanders or anybody else, which is, You
[41:50] Speaker 1: can't take on all the fights at one time. And
[41:53] Speaker 1: what that means as a result is now this is
[41:55] Speaker 1: going to get a little bit more towards center because
[41:57] Speaker 1: it has to, right? Zoran represents a base of people
[42:02] Speaker 1: who by and large never get to win anything, right?
[42:05] Speaker 1: So you largely are idealistic about everything that you feel,
[42:09] Speaker 1: but that's not how this government actually works. So once
[42:12] Speaker 1: you get on, now you've got to do some of
[42:16] Speaker 1: the things, right? And now we're seeing that, right? The
[42:21] Speaker 1: thing that's going on with Chiyose, who wants to run
[42:24] Speaker 1: against Hakeem Jeffries. And look, that's complicated for me because
[42:27] Speaker 1: that's combat jackson, right? that's what it's going to be
[42:31] Speaker 1: first and foremost to me. We'll get to the rest
[42:33] Speaker 1: of it. But the democratic socialists, they, they own little click, right?
[42:37] Speaker 1: They got somebody who from the outside, try to come
[42:40] Speaker 1: in and use their network to go run up on
[42:42] Speaker 1: this other guy. And Zoran's in there and was like, Hey,
[42:45] Speaker 1: I don't know if we can get away with this
[42:46] Speaker 1: one right now, dog. I don't know if we could,
[42:48] Speaker 1: you know, play. It's going to get really, really weird.
[42:51] Speaker 1: But if you're the Democrats, Donald Trump is getting with
[42:55] Speaker 1: the wave. Y'all are calling the wave a comment, right? Democrats,
[43:00] Speaker 1: the only people I've ever seen be like, hey, man,
[43:02] Speaker 1: it's a wave. We don't want no parts of that.
[43:06] Speaker 2: Yeah, I was waving away.
[43:07] Speaker 1: Hell no. Even Trump was like, yo, get a load
[43:10] Speaker 1: of the wave. Where's my board? Damn, man. I see
[43:14] Speaker 1: what the big deal is now. Couldn't believe it. Wildest
[43:17] Speaker 1: thing I'd ever heard. I'm all over the place on this.
[43:19] Speaker 1: We'll talk more about it later, but it's going to
[43:22] Speaker 1: be a very interesting first two months of Zoran in
[43:25] Speaker 1: New York City. And I think You're not right. You
[43:28] Speaker 1: said it on here before. You said it already. Job one,
[43:32] Speaker 1: keep the National Guard out. Because if you go talk
[43:34] Speaker 1: to people about what's going down in Chicago right now,
[43:37] Speaker 1: it is insanity what is happening there. I think Zorah's like, hey, man,
[43:43] Speaker 1: let me give it a try first. Like, let's see.
[43:45] Speaker 1: He's like, I got this. Trust me. Watch. Watch what
[43:50] Speaker 1: I do. Watch what I do.
[43:58] Speaker 2: All right, Bo, voicemail line's open. We got an appearance
[44:03] Speaker 2: from one of the greatest hits. Let's take a listen.
[44:05] Speaker 4: Hey, this is DJ Mike Hitman. I got a question.
[44:10] Speaker 5: Since I'm on the right time with Beaumont Jones, Beaumont,
[44:14] Speaker 5: I'm putting my name in the candidate running for president
[44:17] Speaker 5: for 2029. I'm making everything right again. I'm going to
[44:22] Speaker 5: make America better and understand it.
[44:26] Speaker 4: I'm bringing smoking back for men can smoke in the
[44:28] Speaker 4: bar again. Men, if you want to smoke in the bar,
[44:31] Speaker 4: I'm bringing it back. Vote for me. DJ Mike here, man.
[44:35] Speaker 4: Bring the smoking back.
[44:37] Speaker 5: Now, it's your choice if you want to smoke and die,
[44:39] Speaker 5: but I'm bringing it back. Women, you are allowed to
[44:42] Speaker 5: wear short dresses again and.
[44:45] Speaker 4: Have some dresses again.
[44:46] Speaker 5: Ladies, if you vote for me, I'm bringing everything back legalized.
[44:51] Speaker 5: I'm running for president for 2029. I wish I had
[44:55] Speaker 5: my jerry curls. I would really be flat, but.
[44:58] Speaker 4: I don't have no jerry curls. I just got grease.
[45:02] Speaker 5: I'm taking the baby oil and rubbing it back on
[45:04] Speaker 5: my head again because I'm running for president. I'm bringing
[45:07] Speaker 5: everything back. Everything will be legalized the right way. Fellas,
[45:10] Speaker 5: you can grab a Cadillac with the TV back in it. Okay, ladies,
[45:16] Speaker 5: you can go back shopping again and spend other people money,
[45:19] Speaker 5: even your own man or your mistress.
[45:22] Speaker 4: It don't matter. I'm bringing everything back the right way. Bo,
[45:26] Speaker 4: you need to hit me up.
[45:27] Speaker 5: You need to get your producer, all y'all be my candidates.
[45:31] Speaker 5: Stop putting money in my pot. I'm going to run
[45:33] Speaker 5: for president for 2029. I'm going to be the first
[45:38] Speaker 5: president on the West Side of Chicago stepping in party.
[45:42] Speaker 5: We're going to bring everything back and make it right.
[45:45] Speaker 5: If we can make we legal, we can make.
[45:48] Speaker 4: Everything else legal. And Nancy Reagan will agree with me.
[45:52] Speaker 4: Have a good one, Bo.
[45:56] Speaker 1: Are we going to have a special election in 2029, Ryan?
[46:02] Speaker 2: Trump, Zoran, DJ Mike Hitman?
[46:05] Speaker 1: Hey, man, let me tell you something. You get a Zoran,
[46:07] Speaker 1: Mike Hitman ticket, that will be unstoppable. I am dead
[46:13] Speaker 1: ass when I say that. How do we get Mike
[46:15] Speaker 1: and Zoran in the same room? Somebody call Pablo. He
[46:19] Speaker 1: out here kicking it with Zoran. He can help make
[46:20] Speaker 1: that happen.
[46:22] Speaker 2: But wait, there's more.
[46:25] Speaker 4: Hey, Bo, this is DJ Mike here, man. I got
[46:27] Speaker 4: a question. I need to be on your show. Just
[46:30] Speaker 4: give me a minute.
[46:31] Speaker 5: You know, I take 15, 20, 30 minutes. Give me
[46:35] Speaker 5: an hour. I want to talk about these boys spending
[46:39] Speaker 5: the other people's money gambling.
[46:41] Speaker 4: You know, I know the whole detail. I can go.
[46:44] Speaker 5: Behind the scenes and give you the whole thing. They
[46:47] Speaker 5: give you that news report and stuff. But the man
[46:49] Speaker 5: on the street telling me different things, Bo. You need
[46:52] Speaker 5: to get me on the show. And I'm going to
[46:54] Speaker 5: tell you, it ain't going to be nice. These boys
[46:58] Speaker 5: is gambling in debt, spending other people money. I know
[47:03] Speaker 5: the real story. I know why they're doing it. First
[47:06] Speaker 5: of all, the NBA must ain't paying these boys. Or
[47:10] Speaker 5: must ain't giving them a good pension.
[47:12] Speaker 4: Come on, boys, let's do this. We got a new commissioner.
[47:15] Speaker 4: Soft as a whistle. He's soft. I think I should
[47:19] Speaker 4: run for commissioner. But, boy, hit me up. And let
[47:22] Speaker 4: me come on the show. And I got some stories
[47:24] Speaker 4: to tell you, too, Bo. I got some great stories
[47:26] Speaker 4: in Chicago. And when I went to Mexico. I got
[47:30] Speaker 4: some great stories. You need to hit me up, Bo.
[47:32] Speaker 4: Told you, Bo. Have a good one.
[47:35] Speaker 1: I will say this. Mike Hitman is NBA commissioner. That's
[47:37] Speaker 1: what we need. We need an NBA commissioner in a
[47:40] Speaker 1: fur coat.
[47:43] Speaker 2: That would change some things. All right. Here's our last one.
[47:46] Speaker 3: Hey, Bo. It's Gary. I'm here in Atlanta. Long-time listener,
[47:51] Speaker 3: huge fan. The episode where you were talking about Nico
[47:56] Speaker 3: Harrison putting Nicola Jokic and Drew Holiday in the same tier,
[48:00] Speaker 3: it got me thinking about a time where I had
[48:03] Speaker 3: a buddy of mine. He kind of did the same thing,
[48:06] Speaker 3: but it was with football. So back when we were
[48:13] Speaker 3: working together part-time, he went to high school with Jake Fromm.
[48:19] Speaker 3: So we're all around the same age. And when Jake
[48:22] Speaker 3: Fromm got drafted, whatever year it was, fourth round, fifth round,
[48:28] Speaker 3: I remember texting him and I was like, oh man,
[48:31] Speaker 3: you know, this is great. You know, I'm glad he
[48:32] Speaker 3: got drafted. Hopefully he makes the team. And Bo, this
[48:37] Speaker 3: man proceeded to tell me, and I quote, I don't know, man.
[48:43] Speaker 3: I think he's going to beat out Josh Allen for
[48:45] Speaker 3: that number one QB spot. Yeah. He really said that. And, oh,
[48:52] Speaker 3: he meant it. Like, he really, really thought Jake Fromm
[48:56] Speaker 3: was better than Josh Allen. I wish I was picking
[49:01] Speaker 3: this up. And you see where Jake is now selling insurance,
[49:08] Speaker 3: which is fitting given his name. And, yeah, I just
[49:13] Speaker 3: wanted to let you know that story because To this day,
[49:18] Speaker 3: I still can't believe he really said that to me
[49:22] Speaker 3: and to add a little sprinkle on top this is
[49:26] Speaker 3: the same man who is also a diehard UGA fan
[49:32] Speaker 3: and leading into the SEC championship the year LSU won
[49:36] Speaker 3: the whole title he was telling me A huge fan. Yeah, man.
[49:42] Speaker 3: I think we got a good chance to beat y'all today.
[49:45] Speaker 3: I think we're going to win. And Bo, with no hesitation,
[49:49] Speaker 3: because we were on the phone, I told this man,
[49:52] Speaker 3: I said, I'm not afraid of Jake Fromm. I'm not.
[49:59] Speaker 3: And you can ask Ryan about that stat line, because
[50:03] Speaker 3: Ryan probably remembers it. So, yeah. He, uh, He loves
[50:10] Speaker 3: Jake Fromm. That's his boy, but he did not want
[50:14] Speaker 3: to come to the realization that he wasn't that good because,
[50:20] Speaker 3: like I said, he's selling insurance now. So, yeah. Thanks
[50:25] Speaker 3: for everything. Love the show. Kill with the good work.
[50:30] Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Now, to be fair to Jake Fromm
[50:32] Speaker 1: and your Jake Fromm loving friend, when Jake Fromm joined
[50:36] Speaker 1: the Bills, it was right after Josh Allen was throwing
[50:38] Speaker 1: Hail Mary's square bodies in the playoffs. I like we
[50:42] Speaker 1: we hadn't had a proof of concept yet on Josh
[50:44] Speaker 1: Allen at that time. But, oh, hey, man, we all
[50:47] Speaker 1: got to have we all we all got to be
[50:48] Speaker 1: a fan of somebody. Right.
[50:49] Speaker 2: To be fair, I mean, the person he might have
[50:51] Speaker 2: talked to was Kirby Smart. So that's.
[50:54] Speaker 1: Totally on the board. That's the guy that loved him
[50:57] Speaker 1: through Jake Fromm. Good gracious. My thing is, Kirby is
[51:01] Speaker 1: still an element of Saban 1.0 to Kirby, right? Keep
[51:05] Speaker 1: it close. Run the ball. Quarterback, don't mess nothing up.
[51:09] Speaker 1: But hey, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining
[51:11] Speaker 1: us here on The Right Time. We do this four
[51:14] Speaker 1: times a week. Now, this is Thanksgiving week, so we're
[51:16] Speaker 1: going to have one more episode for you this week,
[51:17] Speaker 1: then we'll be back with four next week. Ryan Brumley
[51:20] Speaker 1: handles everything behind the scenes. Thank you, sir. Hit the
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