# Ep. 819: $0 Tax Stamps and Mr. Bear Grease Himself | MeatEater Radio Live!

An episode of [The MeatEater Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/960902903), 9 Jan 2026, 1 h 06 min.

Audio: https://podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/63aba8bc-2dc8-4f89-807a-ae280065a7cd/49ccfd7e-479e-4b80-8b8d-b3cc0149ae52/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=3892b9a1-a960-4f9e-bee7-ae280065a7db

Hosts Randall Williams, Seth Morris, and Cory Calkins interview Silencer Central's Brandon Maddox about all things suppressors and changes to the Tax Stamp in 2026, throw a Hot Tip Off, catch up with MeatEater's own Clay Newcomb, and help control the pet population in another round of MeatEater Price is Right. Watch the live stream on the MeatEater Podcast Network YouTube channel. Subscribe to The MeatEater Podcast Network MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:04] Speaker 1: Smell off now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia met
[0:08] Speaker 1: Heater Podcast.
[0:26] Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time.
[0:30] Speaker 2: That's nine am for our friends in Prudo Bay, Alaska,
[0:33] Speaker 2: where Seth Morris tells me it's negative forty degrees. Today's Thursday,
[0:38] Speaker 2: January eighth, twenty twenty six. Ooh, and we're live from
[0:43] Speaker 2: Meet Eater HQ and Boseman. I'm your host, Randall Williams,
[0:46] Speaker 2: joined today by my two friends and colleagues, Corey Culkins
[0:51] Speaker 2: and Seth Morris. On today's show, we'll interview Brandon Maddox
[0:55] Speaker 2: from Soulencer Central about some big news in the world
[0:58] Speaker 2: of suppressor ownership with you got a sizzling hot tip
[1:01] Speaker 2: off for you. We're gonna catch up with mister Clay
[1:04] Speaker 2: Nukeomb who recently got himself a big old buck, and
[1:07] Speaker 2: we're gonna play a thrilling round of.
[1:09] Speaker 3: The Price is Right but Exciting.
[1:13] Speaker 2: Before we get into that, Seth, Corey, it's great to
[1:15] Speaker 2: be here with you both. A brand new year, exciting
[1:18] Speaker 2: things ahead of us. How have you been, Oh?
[1:20] Speaker 4: Well, happy New Year?
[1:21] Speaker 3: Yeah, happy new Year? Been great?
[1:23] Speaker 2: Any fun adventures from the high Cory. I know you're
[1:26] Speaker 2: you're on the mend.
[1:28] Speaker 3: It's true.
[1:28] Speaker 5: Yeah, boy, the last time I was on the show,
[1:30] Speaker 5: I had a big old black eye.
[1:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, you look good, thank you?
[1:34] Speaker 3: Yeahel good. You look fully healed.
[1:37] Speaker 4: Well, a couple of brain cells might still.
[1:39] Speaker 3: Be in there. Way, some of the injuries are invisible. Yeah,
[1:42] Speaker 3: and forever lasting.
[1:44] Speaker 4: Feeling a lot better though, thank you very much for asking.
[1:46] Speaker 2: That's good, Seth. You have any fun holiday break adventures?
[1:50] Speaker 6: Yeah, did some haunting. The nice little extension on the
[1:55] Speaker 6: deer season here in some units in Montana capitalized on that.
[1:59] Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got an extended season in some areas around
[2:04] Speaker 2: the general vicinity of Bozeman because of an EHD outbreak. Yep,
[2:09] Speaker 2: even the missus took advantage.
[2:11] Speaker 3: Yes, we killed some dose for the freezer.
[2:13] Speaker 6: And then H did some ice fishing, which is tough
[2:16] Speaker 6: to do in Montana right now. Oh yeah, you gotta
[2:18] Speaker 6: go up to elevation to find some good ice.
[2:21] Speaker 2: And you were telling me earlier that people shouldn't look
[2:24] Speaker 2: for their ice reports on Facebook.
[2:27] Speaker 3: Well you can, but people are just kind of mean.
[2:30] Speaker 4: They are.
[2:31] Speaker 3: The ice fishermen are in bad moods right now.
[2:33] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm in those same groups and.
[2:35] Speaker 3: The Montana Ice Report. Yeah, people are just just.
[2:38] Speaker 6: Just you know, nice guys going on there asking to
[2:41] Speaker 6: see if there's any ice anywhere, and people just light
[2:43] Speaker 6: them up.
[2:43] Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. Yeah, go find out for yourself. Yeah, we
[2:46] Speaker 3: shall be in the same boat here. Yeah, we're all friends, guys.
[2:49] Speaker 5: Yeah, some folks don't want to drive five hours to
[2:51] Speaker 5: have to just turn around because it's not safe.
[2:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly because someone lied to them on Facebook. Right, Corey,
[2:57] Speaker 2: did you get outside at all? Or are you mostly?
[2:59] Speaker 1: Uh?
[3:00] Speaker 5: You know, I was kind of hold up for half
[3:02] Speaker 5: of our break and then the second half I didn't
[3:05] Speaker 5: get out a whole lot, honestly. Gained fifteen pounds, did
[3:09] Speaker 5: a little skiing, but yeah, it's kind of a dreary
[3:12] Speaker 5: start to the winter around here. A lot of folks,
[3:15] Speaker 5: I think in the Rocky Mountain West are familiar with
[3:17] Speaker 5: right now. It's very dry and warm here in southwest Montana.
[3:22] Speaker 5: It's pretty sad. So, yeah, the ice fishing is not
[3:25] Speaker 5: really happening down here right now, and skiing's piss poor.
[3:30] Speaker 4: Yeah, we went for pressing.
[3:31] Speaker 2: We went for a hike hoping it would be drier,
[3:33] Speaker 2: but we were we'd gotten too high up in elevation
[3:38] Speaker 2: and it was just mud.
[3:39] Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's so mud season. Yeah, shot some ducks.
[3:43] Speaker 2: With I wanted to know how the suits live, so
[3:48] Speaker 2: I thought what better way than to spend a day
[3:50] Speaker 2: with the CEO. So Ryan Callahan took me duck hunting,
[3:54] Speaker 2: shot a couple of ducks. All right, it turns out
[3:56] Speaker 2: that CEOs lived just like the rest of us. Really, Yeah, yeah,
[4:00] Speaker 2: can they shoot? He probably wouldn't want me to say this,
[4:04] Speaker 2: but Calc kind of had a rough day.
[4:06] Speaker 3: It's tough.
[4:07] Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say, is probably not like other CEOs though,
[4:11] Speaker 6: he probably hasn't changed a bit and won't change a bit.
[4:14] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[4:14] Speaker 2: I text him the other day to ask him how
[4:16] Speaker 2: his first day was, and he hasn't responded yet.
[4:18] Speaker 3: Oh he's changing.
[4:19] Speaker 7: He's changing eight days ago.
[4:23] Speaker 2: Uh no, Monday, officially on Monday. Yeah, so's he's a
[4:27] Speaker 2: busy man. I'll hear from him at some point, I'm
[4:29] Speaker 2: sure you will. Yeah, what do we have?
[4:34] Speaker 3: Do you have anything?
[4:35] Speaker 2: Look like in the next month or two any outdoor
[4:38] Speaker 2: adventures planned?
[4:40] Speaker 3: We're going to Texas next week, that's right. Yeah, what
[4:43] Speaker 3: are you doing down there? We're gonna go hunt some
[4:44] Speaker 3: bobcats and hawks. Well that sounds fun. Yeah, it should
[4:49] Speaker 3: be a good time. We have a special guest joining you. Yeah. Yeah,
[4:53] Speaker 3: Kevin Murphy. The people love it. The what do we
[4:58] Speaker 3: call him, he's like the guy father of small game
[5:01] Speaker 3: or the.
[5:02] Speaker 4: Steve's coined him as the world's greatest, greatest.
[5:04] Speaker 3: Small game hunter. Yeah, yeah, I love that guy.
[5:07] Speaker 5: That'll be fun to have him back on now hunting bobcats.
[5:10] Speaker 6: Yeah, call him in, calling him in, calling him in
[5:13] Speaker 6: and shooting the shotguns. Wow, call him in close.
[5:15] Speaker 3: Cool?
[5:16] Speaker 6: Yeah, down there in that brush and in South Texas,
[5:19] Speaker 6: just getting like a pocket that's pretty tight and start
[5:22] Speaker 6: calling and it's kind of crazy. Last time we did it,
[5:27] Speaker 6: there's one stand we did where we call it in
[5:29] Speaker 6: fourteen coyotes.
[5:31] Speaker 3: Mm hm and uh. I think the time of the
[5:36] Speaker 3: stands we did, bobcats came in. That's incredible.
[5:38] Speaker 8: Wow.
[5:39] Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of kiddies, a lot of.
[5:41] Speaker 4: Their fur is probably as good as it's going to
[5:42] Speaker 4: get down there right now.
[5:43] Speaker 3: Yeah, which is not great, But I.
[5:46] Speaker 2: Bet Steve will spend a lot of time talking about
[5:48] Speaker 2: how the cats in Montana are better.
[5:50] Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, Well as a Montana and a football fan.
[5:54] Speaker 5: I'd love to shoot a Bobcat right now.
[5:57] Speaker 2: Cochriz a Gameye, Corey's Corey's not a Corey's not a
[6:03] Speaker 2: bandwagon fan.
[6:04] Speaker 3: No, Corey went down with the ships everal.
[6:06] Speaker 4: Weeks as the hell of a game.
[6:11] Speaker 3: It was, indeed well.
[6:13] Speaker 2: Joining us first on the line is Brandon Maddox, the
[6:15] Speaker 2: founder and CEO of Silencer Central.
[6:20] Speaker 9: How are you, gentlemen.
[6:21] Speaker 3: We're doing very well, Harry.
[6:22] Speaker 2: Thanks for being on the show.
[6:24] Speaker 10: Yeah, speaking of suits, I feel bad I got one
[6:26] Speaker 10: on today. I had a legislative event.
[6:29] Speaker 2: Well, you lost the tie, so you'll fit right in
[6:32] Speaker 2: around here.
[6:33] Speaker 4: Yeah, looking good.
[6:35] Speaker 3: So, Brandon, we wanted to have you on.
[6:38] Speaker 2: As some of our audience might know, last week, we
[6:41] Speaker 2: saw a pretty significant change in the world of suppressor
[6:44] Speaker 2: ownership or suppressor buying. But to fully appreciate that news,
[6:48] Speaker 2: you kind of need to know how it all works.
[6:50] Speaker 2: So I wonder if you can begin by just explaining
[6:52] Speaker 2: sort of the basic requirements and process, and and then
[6:56] Speaker 2: also how Silence Essential makes that easy for folks.
[7:01] Speaker 9: Yeah.
[7:01] Speaker 10: Sure, So, of course the laws change where there's no
[7:04] Speaker 10: tax stamp anymore, so it's cheaper to get a suppressor.
[7:08] Speaker 10: But you know, basic requirements are you got to be
[7:10] Speaker 10: able to pass the background check, Say it was buying
[7:12] Speaker 10: a firearm.
[7:14] Speaker 9: It's basically a title transfer.
[7:15] Speaker 10: We're asking the FEDS to retitle the ownership of the
[7:17] Speaker 10: silencer from us to you, and we just have to
[7:20] Speaker 10: have fingerprints and photos still from like a nineteen thirty
[7:23] Speaker 10: four requirement. We spit it to the ATF digitally, they
[7:26] Speaker 10: approve it, and then silences are central. Ships that sigwnich
[7:28] Speaker 10: are directly to your front door. So we know that's
[7:31] Speaker 10: popular in a lot of areas where you don't have
[7:33] Speaker 10: to leave the couch. You can buy express or it
[7:34] Speaker 10: shows right up to your front door. So yeah, that
[7:38] Speaker 10: our process. Think of it as we sort of own
[7:40] Speaker 10: the whole process. So when you buy one, we're managing
[7:42] Speaker 10: the paperwork for you digitally and you know, sending you
[7:45] Speaker 10: a text say hey you need to sign this, or
[7:47] Speaker 10: you know, sending a text say hey, don't forget it's approved.
[7:49] Speaker 10: We're about to ship it to you. So think of
[7:51] Speaker 10: it as a fully automated process through. Silences are central
[7:54] Speaker 10: from beginning to end.
[7:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's I mean, as someone who's gone through
[7:58] Speaker 2: this process more times than i'd like to admit, there's
[8:01] Speaker 2: a lot of sort of boxes to check, and your
[8:04] Speaker 2: system just guides people right through it and kind of
[8:07] Speaker 2: holds their hand and makes it relatively seamless.
[8:12] Speaker 9: Yeah.
[8:12] Speaker 10: Absolutely, because basically we gather your information and then we
[8:16] Speaker 10: put it all into the forums. Then we let you
[8:17] Speaker 10: look at it, make sure we fill it out on
[8:19] Speaker 10: your behalf right, and then basically you're submitting it with
[8:21] Speaker 10: your own username and pen, which kind of creates your
[8:23] Speaker 10: digital signature, and then it goes right to the ATF
[8:26] Speaker 10: as soon as.
[8:26] Speaker 9: They approve it.
[8:27] Speaker 10: We mail it to your front door from our location
[8:29] Speaker 10: in your state, so we're in all forty two states
[8:31] Speaker 10: where silencers are legal. We have a physical location a
[8:34] Speaker 10: FFL there, we just ship it right to your front
[8:35] Speaker 10: door from there.
[8:36] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[8:37] Speaker 2: The first time that I received a package from you guys,
[8:41] Speaker 2: it was pretty surreal because I've done it the other
[8:44] Speaker 2: way and it's a lot of trips, you know, going
[8:47] Speaker 2: back and forth to a Class three dealer and doing
[8:51] Speaker 2: the whole like whatever it proved the ATF submission, come back,
[8:56] Speaker 2: go get it and all that stuff. So to just
[8:58] Speaker 2: have it arrive at your doors is pretty amazing. You
[9:02] Speaker 2: mentioned that the tax stamp the two hundred dollars fee
[9:06] Speaker 2: associated with the taps. The tax stamp has now gone
[9:09] Speaker 2: down to zero dollars. That was part of a bill
[9:13] Speaker 2: last year and now it's effective as of January first,
[9:16] Speaker 2: So basically all the suppressors out there are now two
[9:20] Speaker 2: hundred dollars cheaper in terms of like the end user
[9:23] Speaker 2: out of pocket.
[9:25] Speaker 9: Yeah.
[9:26] Speaker 2: Absolutely, How has that changed demand in the past few
[9:29] Speaker 2: in the past week or so, I mean, I imagine that
[9:32] Speaker 2: that business is looking pretty good for you guys right now.
[9:35] Speaker 9: Oh yeah, absolutely.
[9:36] Speaker 10: I mean you probably look online at some of the
[9:37] Speaker 10: forums of the groups, the dealers will tell you the
[9:40] Speaker 10: ATS websites crashing. You know, I'm pleased to say that
[9:44] Speaker 10: as of yesterday, we're real time far as submitting. You know,
[9:46] Speaker 10: anyone that was in the system on December twenty sixth
[9:49] Speaker 10: of twenty.
[9:50] Speaker 9: Five got kicked out.
[9:51] Speaker 10: They basically took anything that was waiting for approval and
[9:54] Speaker 10: they denied it, so we had to resubmit it. So,
[9:56] Speaker 10: and of course we've probably had a lot of people
[9:57] Speaker 10: bent up demand, people wanting to get them and then
[10:00] Speaker 10: waiting until the two and dollars tax stamp went through.
[10:02] Speaker 10: But you know, we're real time in our submitting. You know,
[10:05] Speaker 10: it's created a backlog of the ATF just because of
[10:08] Speaker 10: the you know, their computer system hasn't probably been able
[10:10] Speaker 10: to handle the volume as well as we had hoped
[10:13] Speaker 10: it even as they had hoped. In some cases, we're
[10:15] Speaker 10: having to submit your information, you know, twenty five, twenty
[10:18] Speaker 10: six times, but we're doing it digitally on the back end,
[10:20] Speaker 10: so you're not having a fool with it.
[10:21] Speaker 9: But I would say demands up three to four x,
[10:24] Speaker 9: you know.
[10:26] Speaker 10: You know, in the last year, we're all sitting around
[10:27] Speaker 10: going how many silencers should we make, and how many
[10:29] Speaker 10: should we buy and how many should we have ready
[10:31] Speaker 10: to sell? And it was really a crapshoot. Were just
[10:32] Speaker 10: throwing dice. But now that we're in it, we got
[10:34] Speaker 10: to keep up with the demand. So we're continuing to
[10:36] Speaker 10: buy more suppressors from other manufacturers and also make our
[10:39] Speaker 10: own to meet the demand.
[10:41] Speaker 3: Right.
[10:41] Speaker 2: And one of the bigger changes in the last few
[10:44] Speaker 2: years was the reduction in that weight time. Yes, I
[10:49] Speaker 2: guess maybe two three years ago, the ATF started processing
[10:52] Speaker 2: those things in what was once like a thirteen fourteen
[10:56] Speaker 2: month timeline down to maybe even a couple of days,
[10:59] Speaker 2: and that's what got me in the game, so to speak,
[11:04] Speaker 2: and really made me want to hop in. So it's
[11:06] Speaker 2: interesting that you see and at that time too, all
[11:09] Speaker 2: of a sudden, the suppressions that you wanted were out
[11:11] Speaker 2: of stock everywhere. So it's interesting how these little changes
[11:15] Speaker 2: in the process of acquiring one can result in this
[11:18] Speaker 2: huge demand for manufacturers like your like Science are Central.
[11:23] Speaker 9: Yeah, no, absolutely, Hey, obviously it's exciting for us.
[11:26] Speaker 10: Anytime you have demand and you're having trouble keeping up
[11:28] Speaker 10: with your phone calls, you're staying up late to return
[11:30] Speaker 10: phone calls, it's always always called a happy problem. But
[11:34] Speaker 10: you are right, small changes can create additional demand. I mean,
[11:38] Speaker 10: you know, Obama getting elected created a huge demand. You know,
[11:40] Speaker 10: he made some changes in twenty sixteen that created demand.
[11:43] Speaker 10: So there's been a lot of small things. But I
[11:45] Speaker 10: would definitely say, you know, I've been doing this twenty
[11:48] Speaker 10: plus years, and i'd say since the inception of nineteen
[11:50] Speaker 10: thirty four when they started this process. This is probably
[11:53] Speaker 10: the biggest change in the industry scene. I think it's
[11:55] Speaker 10: going to create more acceptance. I think that more people
[11:58] Speaker 10: using them are going to educate their elected to fits,
[12:00] Speaker 10: and we hope it's sort of a stepping stone to
[12:01] Speaker 10: further deregulation.
[12:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's that's exciting news. You know, as I mentioned,
[12:08] Speaker 2: there's probably people that are now maybe giving more serious
[12:11] Speaker 2: consideration to getting their first can What what did someone
[12:16] Speaker 2: need to know or need to look into as far
[12:19] Speaker 2: as figuring out what product they want and sort of
[12:23] Speaker 2: what do they for a first time consumer or first
[12:26] Speaker 2: time shop or what what advice would you give that individual?
[12:30] Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a good question.
[12:31] Speaker 10: So you know, in Silence a Central we sell everybody's stuff,
[12:34] Speaker 10: so you know, feel free to call us and we
[12:35] Speaker 10: can give you all the options available for what you're
[12:37] Speaker 10: trying to shoot. I mean there's two there's two schools
[12:39] Speaker 10: of thought. I mean some people will say, hey, their
[12:41] Speaker 10: initial sort of gut reaction when they start going down
[12:44] Speaker 10: this path is I would like to get a suppressor
[12:46] Speaker 10: silencer that could use on all my firearms. So they
[12:49] Speaker 10: kind of go down that path of getting something probably
[12:51] Speaker 10: too big, but that they could use for everything. Typically,
[12:53] Speaker 10: my personal advice has always been pick which firearm you
[12:57] Speaker 10: shoot the most frequently, and then get a suppress are
[13:00] Speaker 10: kind of tailored for that, and you'll find it to
[13:02] Speaker 10: be so effective. It's easier to open your wallet to
[13:04] Speaker 10: buy further later. You hate to buy one that's not perfect,
[13:07] Speaker 10: and then you don't like it and you wish you
[13:09] Speaker 10: had bought one for the one to shoot the most.
[13:11] Speaker 10: So my encouragement always is to think of the weapon
[13:13] Speaker 10: to shoot the most, and then suppress it because it's
[13:16] Speaker 10: gonna work better than you thought it would, and then
[13:17] Speaker 10: it's going to open the door for you maybe to
[13:19] Speaker 10: get further later. Just sometimes some people start the path
[13:21] Speaker 10: of going down multi caliber wanting to get one that
[13:23] Speaker 10: covers everything.
[13:24] Speaker 9: I just don't want them to be disappointed.
[13:26] Speaker 10: Not that they would be, but I just don't want
[13:27] Speaker 10: them to get something too big of a hole through
[13:29] Speaker 10: the middle, and then it's not as effective as it
[13:31] Speaker 10: could be.
[13:32] Speaker 2: Right, And and like there's I remember reading it before
[13:37] Speaker 2: I owned a can. I remember reading, Oh, once you
[13:39] Speaker 2: buy the first one, then you're you're hooked, and you're
[13:42] Speaker 2: just going to keep buying more and more.
[13:44] Speaker 3: I'm in that boat. Oh yeah, that's true, because I
[13:46] Speaker 3: think I.
[13:48] Speaker 2: Had an idea in my mind of what owning a
[13:50] Speaker 2: can would be like as far as just my shooting
[13:53] Speaker 2: experience and my hunting experience. But it's really like surpassed
[13:58] Speaker 2: any expectation that I had of just like changing how
[14:01] Speaker 2: I use my guns and how I hunt, like with
[14:05] Speaker 2: a partner with my wife, trips to the range, and
[14:07] Speaker 2: everything else like that. I mean, what do you hear
[14:09] Speaker 2: from customers that a first time customer that gets their
[14:12] Speaker 2: first can, and how do you hear from those folks
[14:15] Speaker 2: as far as like what their impressions are and what
[14:17] Speaker 2: surprises them?
[14:19] Speaker 10: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean I'd say you're spot on.
[14:21] Speaker 10: I mean, it's that's why I liked getting into suppressors.
[14:24] Speaker 10: I mean, most people know my backstory. I start out
[14:26] Speaker 10: as a pharmacist, and people thought, why would you leave
[14:28] Speaker 10: pharmacist go into this, And I'm like, it's just so
[14:30] Speaker 10: exciting because I feel like you really had to twist
[14:32] Speaker 10: people's arms years ago when the assigleuncers weren't as familiar
[14:35] Speaker 10: to get them to buy one. But one hundred percent
[14:37] Speaker 10: of the time, once they bought one, they said, I'll
[14:39] Speaker 10: never shoot a shoot a rifle or handgun again without
[14:42] Speaker 10: a suppressor.
[14:43] Speaker 9: So it's kind of a life changing deal.
[14:44] Speaker 10: I mean people go from just kind of you know,
[14:47] Speaker 10: handling the sound, handling the recoil to now to have
[14:49] Speaker 10: a tool to mitigate it. It's a nice luxury once
[14:52] Speaker 10: you know each of you all have seen it. Once
[14:54] Speaker 10: you use it, you never want to shoot again with
[14:55] Speaker 10: that one.
[14:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is this is not in the scripture,
[14:59] Speaker 2: but I'm just remembering.
[15:00] Speaker 3: We did a live tour.
[15:03] Speaker 2: In the South in December and one of our guests
[15:06] Speaker 2: at one of those events was Will Primos, and Steve
[15:09] Speaker 2: asked him, if you could give your younger self one
[15:12] Speaker 2: piece of advice, what would it be? And Will, without hesitation, said,
[15:16] Speaker 2: protect your hearing.
[15:17] Speaker 3: So I mean.
[15:18] Speaker 2: It's a big, big, big deal. So yeah, Brandon, looking ahead,
[15:25] Speaker 2: I mean we're obviously at a moment right now where
[15:28] Speaker 2: things are real exciting. But looking ahead to twenty twenty six,
[15:31] Speaker 2: what's new on your end as far as the business
[15:34] Speaker 2: or the banished product line or things that folks can
[15:38] Speaker 2: look forward to.
[15:39] Speaker 10: Yeah, So I'd say one thing is we'll continue to
[15:41] Speaker 10: see more products come out for sign Wentz Central. One
[15:44] Speaker 10: thing is important is just waight, so think about the
[15:46] Speaker 10: Titanium options. The other thing we have in coming out
[15:48] Speaker 10: and I know your audience is probably more consumers, but
[15:51] Speaker 10: we also have a software that now we're going to
[15:53] Speaker 10: have dealers where they can actually use our software to
[15:55] Speaker 10: help them process the forums. So, you know, we're kind
[15:57] Speaker 10: of famous over the years for working events. You know,
[15:59] Speaker 10: we work over hundred events a year. We sort of
[16:01] Speaker 10: fine tuned our software to help sort of intake that
[16:04] Speaker 10: information from the events we've worked. So now we're going
[16:06] Speaker 10: to roll it out to actual dealers too. So you know,
[16:09] Speaker 10: we know only about twenty five to thirty percent of
[16:11] Speaker 10: FFL dealers actually sell silencers. Our goals to you know,
[16:13] Speaker 10: kind of double that at least make it. We're half
[16:16] Speaker 10: of people that have an FFL that are in the
[16:17] Speaker 10: business of selling firearms also do suppressors. So we're going
[16:20] Speaker 10: to make software for them that's really cost effective. It
[16:23] Speaker 10: makes it easier for them to you know, take the
[16:25] Speaker 10: information in from the consumer and then actually process getting
[16:27] Speaker 10: a silencer.
[16:28] Speaker 2: You know, super easy, Very cool, and you guys was
[16:32] Speaker 2: sort of touched on this a little bit. But Silence
[16:35] Speaker 2: or Central offers services beyond just simply the retail I mean,
[16:39] Speaker 2: you do barrel threading. A last year, I did an
[16:42] Speaker 2: SBR through your web interface. I mean sort of it's
[16:46] Speaker 2: a one stop shop if you're looking to make this
[16:50] Speaker 2: transition as far as like getting what you need on
[16:53] Speaker 2: the legal side and also getting what you need on
[16:55] Speaker 2: the product side.
[16:56] Speaker 9: Yeah. Absolutely.
[16:57] Speaker 10: I mean, obviously our expertise is the whole compliance side,
[17:00] Speaker 10: making sure everything's done right. And i'd say that, you know,
[17:03] Speaker 10: really last year, we knew it was going to be
[17:05] Speaker 10: slow the last seven months of the year because everyone
[17:06] Speaker 10: knew this two under all our tax was going away,
[17:09] Speaker 10: So we really doubled down as an organization to find
[17:11] Speaker 10: ways to make us more efficient and also to add
[17:13] Speaker 10: more technology to our processes so that it was just
[17:15] Speaker 10: seamless for the consumers. So I think that you know,
[17:18] Speaker 10: even if someone's bought in the past, if they go
[17:19] Speaker 10: through the process with us again, they're going to see
[17:21] Speaker 10: a lot of areas where you know, maybe things took
[17:23] Speaker 10: a little bit longer than you know, we both hope,
[17:25] Speaker 10: and now they're just so much.
[17:26] Speaker 9: Smoother and quicker.
[17:28] Speaker 10: Just we're really in a position where we're able to
[17:29] Speaker 10: handle the volume and scale it up. And it's always
[17:31] Speaker 10: hard when we're you know, we've won e five thousand
[17:33] Speaker 10: every year we've applied, so you know, you see that growth.
[17:36] Speaker 10: But I feel like we really were able to spend
[17:37] Speaker 10: six or seven months really focusing on the organization making
[17:40] Speaker 10: that technology and making it more efficient.
[17:43] Speaker 3: Very cool.
[17:43] Speaker 2: Well, Brandon, I know you guys are busy over there,
[17:46] Speaker 2: so we won't take up any more of your time.
[17:49] Speaker 2: Happy new Year. Great chatting with you, and hope to
[17:51] Speaker 2: talk to you again here.
[17:52] Speaker 9: Thank you, thanks for opportunity, you have a good new year.
[17:55] Speaker 3: Thanks for branding.
[17:56] Speaker 9: See you guys.
[17:58] Speaker 4: Oh boy, I couldn't imagine suppressor.
[18:03] Speaker 3: They're so awesome.
[18:04] Speaker 5: I curse it carrying around that extra length. I haven't
[18:07] Speaker 5: delved into like cutting my barrel down. Well, but I'm
[18:11] Speaker 5: not that techie.
[18:13] Speaker 3: Oh, don't have the need to give you.
[18:15] Speaker 2: I'll give you guys number over there. I'll do it
[18:17] Speaker 2: while you wait for free. Nope, barrel very competitive pricing,
[18:23] Speaker 2: very competitive carbon.
[18:25] Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no all that.
[18:27] Speaker 5: So, but like what I'm trying to say is like
[18:29] Speaker 5: even just the additional a little bit of weight, a
[18:31] Speaker 5: little bit of length, it's worth it when it comes
[18:33] Speaker 5: time to pull the trigger.
[18:34] Speaker 2: I tell people if they ask, like they want to
[18:37] Speaker 2: get a new gun, they want to add a rifle
[18:39] Speaker 2: to the collection, I'll say, buy a can, yeah, because
[18:43] Speaker 2: you'll have a new gun. Like it's just experience, yeah,
[18:49] Speaker 2: I mean, just like getting out and putting rounds down range.
[18:52] Speaker 2: Like Sydney used to have a little bit of a Okay,
[18:55] Speaker 2: I'm done with that, but you put the can on
[18:57] Speaker 2: there and it's just like oh yeah, practice away, Oh
[19:00] Speaker 2: yeah for kids.
[19:03] Speaker 5: Kids now in silence or Central just makes it so easy. Website,
[19:07] Speaker 5: the customer service, good folks.
[19:09] Speaker 3: Just do it. Do it all from your house and
[19:11] Speaker 3: then it shows up to your door. Yeah, simple, great.
[19:13] Speaker 2: Well, my hot tip would be to put a can
[19:16] Speaker 2: on your gun, but we've.
[19:19] Speaker 3: Got some other hot tips.
[19:20] Speaker 8: Phil, Oh, that's all.
[19:36] Speaker 2: Hot tip off is where two listeners go head to
[19:39] Speaker 2: head with competing pieces of advice, and after we hear
[19:42] Speaker 2: each tip, uh, the the audience will declare which one
[19:48] Speaker 2: is hotter?
[19:48] Speaker 3: That's correct. I will start a poll in the live chat.
[19:52] Speaker 3: Keep a script.
[19:53] Speaker 2: The script had us making this judgment, but it's up
[19:56] Speaker 2: to you, fair listeners. And this rounds winner is gonna
[20:00] Speaker 2: see if our new I'd rather be line of logo
[20:02] Speaker 2: wear with one shirt and one hoodie of the winners choosing.
[20:07] Speaker 3: Look at this.
[20:07] Speaker 2: Look at this shirt on Corey. Here it says I'd
[20:09] Speaker 2: rather be hunting squirrels.
[20:11] Speaker 3: Great shirt.
[20:12] Speaker 2: Uh, there's another one says I'd rather be hunting huge bucks.
[20:18] Speaker 3: Like so like so pretty cool.
[20:20] Speaker 2: And then one that says I'd rather be trapping beavers,
[20:24] Speaker 2: big beavers, not any big, big, big, big beaver.
[20:27] Speaker 4: Steve had a hand in that, one big old bea.
[20:30] Speaker 2: So the winner will get to choose one shirt and
[20:32] Speaker 2: one hoodie from that line. We're really excited about these
[20:35] Speaker 2: new shirts. They will be on the meat Eater store tomorrow,
[20:39] Speaker 2: January ninth. Now, if you have a hot tip, take
[20:42] Speaker 2: a one minute video on your phone and email it
[20:45] Speaker 2: to radio at the meat eater dot com with the
[20:47] Speaker 2: subject line hot tip off. This week it's a Battle
[20:51] Speaker 2: of the Johns with John Mertz versus John Foley.
[20:54] Speaker 3: Take it away, Phil.
[20:58] Speaker 7: Shot Murtz.
[21:02] Speaker 3: Hey, everybody kiss the season early ice season.
[21:06] Speaker 11: So let's head out there right well, is the ice safe?
[21:11] Speaker 11: Here's my hot tip. We're gonna measure the ice with
[21:15] Speaker 11: our chisel. You're gonna take some electrical tape. I used
[21:20] Speaker 11: white because it stands up better against my blue chisel,
[21:22] Speaker 11: and you're gonna put a stripe at four inches, a
[21:24] Speaker 11: strip at eight inches, and one at twelve inches.
[21:27] Speaker 3: You're gonna measure that.
[21:28] Speaker 11: Off of the shoulder of the chisel here, so that
[21:31] Speaker 11: when you push the chisel through you pull back up
[21:34] Speaker 11: on it, catch the edge of the ice, and then
[21:36] Speaker 11: read off the waterline where it is.
[21:38] Speaker 3: You can see if I've got my tape here.
[21:40] Speaker 11: I've got my four inch stripe that's thick enough for walking,
[21:44] Speaker 11: an eight inch stripe just good to know, and then
[21:46] Speaker 11: a twelve inch stripe where you can feel a little
[21:48] Speaker 11: more comfortable driving a truck on the ice.
[21:51] Speaker 3: So I just broke through there.
[21:52] Speaker 11: I turned the chisel sideways, pull it up so the
[21:55] Speaker 11: shoulder of the chisel hits the bottom of the ice.
[21:57] Speaker 11: I can see the water level is pretty much up
[21:59] Speaker 11: to that first stripe, so we got about four inches Therefore,
[22:01] Speaker 11: were probably good to go.
[22:03] Speaker 3: Because it's four.
[22:04] Speaker 11: Inches here does not necessarily mean that it's four inches
[22:07] Speaker 11: out there.
[22:07] Speaker 3: So keep checking as you go and stay safe out there.
[22:10] Speaker 4: Great editing, John, Yeah, clee, you.
[22:17] Speaker 5: All right?
[22:18] Speaker 3: What's up?
[22:18] Speaker 9: Everybody got a hot tip for you.
[22:21] Speaker 12: This one's been done before, but I haven't seen it.
[22:23] Speaker 9: Done like this.
[22:24] Speaker 12: So this is one of those things that when I
[22:27] Speaker 12: do it, I just kind of thought everybody.
[22:29] Speaker 9: Knew about it.
[22:30] Speaker 12: I know the common way to do it getting the
[22:33] Speaker 12: brain matter out of the skull is with a drill
[22:36] Speaker 12: or a coat hanger or a screwdriver or a stick
[22:40] Speaker 12: which works. But once I figured out this way or
[22:42] Speaker 12: found out this way, I don't do it any other way.
[22:45] Speaker 9: It's pretty quick.
[22:47] Speaker 12: All you need is in airchuck like this. This was
[22:51] Speaker 12: like ten bucks at Harbor Freight. This is something you
[22:55] Speaker 12: can pack with you and take with you on the
[22:57] Speaker 12: road if you want. That's all you have to do
[22:59] Speaker 12: is stop at a maybe a mechanic shop or a
[23:03] Speaker 12: tire shop or somewhere on the side of the road
[23:05] Speaker 12: to get you an airline. This takes longer to talk
[23:10] Speaker 12: about than actually due the bucket's not needed, all right,
[23:13] Speaker 12: you'll see why in a minute.
[23:14] Speaker 9: But you can do this with the trash bag is
[23:16] Speaker 9: put a hole in it.
[23:18] Speaker 12: You stick the air nozzle into the brain cavity, set
[23:22] Speaker 12: it down in there.
[23:24] Speaker 13: Oh, it's almost too amusing.
[23:29] Speaker 9: And that's it. Cleaned it out perfectly.
[23:33] Speaker 14: H See if I can see the after math from.
[23:35] Speaker 12: The bucket here, there's the whole one quick blast of
[23:39] Speaker 12: air and that's it. And my pup is excited because
[23:43] Speaker 12: he'll probably lick up the extra stuff.
[23:46] Speaker 7: Enjoy.
[23:47] Speaker 4: That was good.
[23:48] Speaker 2: That was a good one, both good, both good. I
[23:51] Speaker 2: trusted the guy the ice guy trusted his accent.
[23:54] Speaker 3: That went a long way for me.
[23:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm not an ice man, so I had
[23:58] Speaker 2: to actually send that to you guys for your thoughts
[24:01] Speaker 2: on how hot it was.
[24:02] Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Seth, you had a point that nobody's probably
[24:04] Speaker 5: going to be trying to chisel through about a foot
[24:06] Speaker 5: of ice no for checking ice this early season.
[24:09] Speaker 4: I feel like that's a good tip.
[24:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a couple of whacks on the chisel.
[24:12] Speaker 6: If if you go through, it's probably you know, i'd measure,
[24:17] Speaker 6: but you know, like what two to three good chisels
[24:20] Speaker 6: and if the chisel doesn't go through, you're typically good
[24:23] Speaker 6: to go.
[24:24] Speaker 2: And just a reminder to our audience. Hop in there
[24:27] Speaker 2: and let us know which of those tips is hotter
[24:31] Speaker 2: the pole is running. Uh, you guys, how's what's your
[24:35] Speaker 2: preferred method of extracting or extruding whatever? The proper word
[24:40] Speaker 2: would be brain matter, big stick guy, stick guy.
[24:44] Speaker 5: But recently we had somebody on who put a tent
[24:48] Speaker 5: steak in a drill bit, oh or into a drill
[24:50] Speaker 5: as a bit and just rolled it up in there
[24:52] Speaker 5: and turn it into mash potatoes and then let it
[24:55] Speaker 5: fall out, give it a little rintse but this looks.
[24:57] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's cleaner.
[24:59] Speaker 6: Usually I just boil it with the brain matter in
[25:01] Speaker 6: there and then just cover myself with it when when
[25:05] Speaker 6: I pressure wash it.
[25:06] Speaker 4: Yeah, get a little in your eye.
[25:07] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[25:07] Speaker 2: I find that if I can do anything with an
[25:09] Speaker 2: air compressor, I'm always looking for new ways to use
[25:13] Speaker 2: my air compressor.
[25:14] Speaker 3: Yeah. It's just a good point everybody.
[25:17] Speaker 2: When child is born, it should be given a small
[25:19] Speaker 2: air compressor and a little air chuck like that.
[25:22] Speaker 4: It's a great toy.
[25:23] Speaker 3: It's a great toy.
[25:24] Speaker 4: Kid loves to play with it.
[25:25] Speaker 2: It's my favorite cleaning instrument. I wish I had a
[25:28] Speaker 2: I wish I had an air compressor, like at every
[25:30] Speaker 2: door to the house to just blow out the little
[25:33] Speaker 2: sills and everything.
[25:34] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[25:34] Speaker 4: Man for cleaning out your truck.
[25:36] Speaker 3: But boy, that the bucket is just such a nice touch.
[25:38] Speaker 3: The bucket, the bucket with the hole in it is
[25:40] Speaker 3: a nice touch.
[25:41] Speaker 4: What you're gonna need, I.
[25:42] Speaker 3: Don't you don't get covered in it.
[25:43] Speaker 4: You need that bucket to sit on.
[25:45] Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.
[25:46] Speaker 2: I like how amused he was that it worked so quock.
[25:51] Speaker 4: His dog was pumped too. That's a tough one to
[25:53] Speaker 4: be honestly.
[25:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm just gonna end the pull now because
[25:56] Speaker 1: it's the chat agrees with ninety one percent of the vote.
[26:00] Speaker 3: Was kind of an unfair head to head. I felt bad. Yeah,
[26:04] Speaker 3: I liked that one so much. Yeah, John fully wins.
[26:08] Speaker 2: John Foley, Congratulations, John, thank you for playing.
[26:12] Speaker 5: I have a hunch he's gonna want the I'd rather
[26:15] Speaker 5: be hunting big Bucks shirt, but we'll reach out to
[26:17] Speaker 5: you and find out.
[26:19] Speaker 3: Thank you. John.
[26:22] Speaker 2: Alrighty Phil, it's time for a little bit of it.
[26:24] Speaker 3: It's time for listener feed.
[26:26] Speaker 1: Before we do that, would one of you please call
[26:29] Speaker 1: Clay Nuko because he said he was going to hang
[26:31] Speaker 1: out in the waiting room and he's been gone for
[26:33] Speaker 1: about twenty minutes, so I hope everything's good with himcause
[26:36] Speaker 1: he is our next gues.
[26:36] Speaker 4: We'll probably had a mule get out.
[26:38] Speaker 3: We'll be fine. We'll be fine.
[26:39] Speaker 2: We'll just do a little bit of extra audience engagement here.
[26:43] Speaker 4: I'll call him.
[26:44] Speaker 1: Leland asks, how long do you guys screw around with
[26:48] Speaker 1: the firearm that gives y'all zeroing problems. I'm having problems
[26:51] Speaker 1: with one particular gun, but don't want to throw in
[26:53] Speaker 1: the towel. Early you were giving up on a gun
[26:56] Speaker 1: because it's not it's not behaving.
[27:01] Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and no, I would say I would say
[27:06] Speaker 2: there's not really like.
[27:07] Speaker 3: A messing around.
[27:10] Speaker 2: I'm checking things methodically, like I'm I'm putting a different
[27:15] Speaker 2: scope on it, make sure there's no issue with the
[27:17] Speaker 2: scope before I do that. I'm checking the mouts, like
[27:20] Speaker 2: checking the even not just the rings but the rail
[27:24] Speaker 2: as well. I'm checking to see if there's any issues
[27:28] Speaker 2: with stock fitment, to make sure that the stock is
[27:31] Speaker 2: fully seated on like if it's a it's got a
[27:35] Speaker 2: standard like Remington style recoil log I'm making sure that's
[27:38] Speaker 2: seated in there.
[27:41] Speaker 3: Then I'm to make sure everything's torqued, everything's.
[27:44] Speaker 2: Torque to spec, you know, check that'll run a dollar
[27:47] Speaker 2: bill or a couple of sheets like receipt paper between
[27:51] Speaker 2: the barrel and the stock to make sure that that
[27:53] Speaker 2: channel is open and free floated.
[27:56] Speaker 3: And then I don't know.
[27:58] Speaker 2: I mean it depends like is it really bad or
[28:04] Speaker 2: are you looking for incremental improvements. I think there's a
[28:06] Speaker 2: lot of variables there To answer that question.
[28:09] Speaker 3: How many different amos have you tried?
[28:11] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if something's if something's wandering, like if
[28:15] Speaker 2: you if your zero is wandering. It's an issue with
[28:18] Speaker 2: your your scope or your or there's something mechanical. But
[28:23] Speaker 2: if it's just not grouping as as precisely as you'd like,
[28:29] Speaker 2: I would I would start moving around with trying different ammunition.
[28:33] Speaker 3: And all that.
[28:35] Speaker 2: Life's too short to shoot an inaccurate rifle.
[28:38] Speaker 3: So that's true.
[28:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that the sort of the
[28:43] Speaker 2: process of nailing that down really depends on what you're
[28:47] Speaker 2: seeing on paper.
[28:49] Speaker 3: And how much you want to throw, how much money
[28:52] Speaker 3: you want to.
[28:52] Speaker 2: Throw, and is it bedded. Yeah, maybe a good betting job.
[29:03] Speaker 1: Brad Weber, bunny hunter, your name checks out. He would
[29:06] Speaker 1: like me to say that Brad has a group of
[29:08] Speaker 1: friends that gets together to go rabbit hunting, and every
[29:10] Speaker 1: year they're doing it this weekend in northeast Wisconsin.
[29:13] Speaker 3: I love to have a shout out cow, good.
[29:16] Speaker 2: Luck, have fun, enjoy your rabbit hunt.
[29:20] Speaker 3: That sounds fun, Brad and crew.
[29:23] Speaker 2: Best of luck on your gathering of the Hawsson feffer.
[29:28] Speaker 2: I think it's just the hasson the feffer. Is the pepper, well, sure,
[29:31] Speaker 2: hopefully that's maybe on the list he's doing.
[29:33] Speaker 3: I see, bring some pepper.
[29:35] Speaker 4: Sorry, I don't speak.
[29:37] Speaker 1: Chris is wondering the the nitty gritty details of creating
[29:40] Speaker 1: a fleshing beam seth specific wood. Is there a particular
[29:43] Speaker 1: method making a flesh mine?
[29:46] Speaker 6: Mine is a you know that that like half log
[29:51] Speaker 6: siding that you side side houses with. It's like one
[29:55] Speaker 6: side dimensional lumber, the other sides round it. That's all
[29:58] Speaker 6: my beam is is that, And then I tapered it
[30:01] Speaker 6: off on the end to a point.
[30:02] Speaker 3: Sand it, sand it, make it with anything, make it smooth.
[30:06] Speaker 6: Uh, you don't have to, because when you're fleshing, you
[30:09] Speaker 6: just get saturated with with fat.
[30:11] Speaker 2: Oh yes, it's self self greasy.
[30:13] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[30:14] Speaker 4: Interesting on a little winter activity.
[30:16] Speaker 3: There you go.
[30:18] Speaker 1: Let's see, we've got a question from Rob. He's asked
[30:22] Speaker 1: if we've had multiple questions in the chat asking me
[30:24] Speaker 1: about online store inventory. Unfortunately, I do not run the story.
[30:28] Speaker 1: It would be a good It would be good for
[30:29] Speaker 1: people to kind of like keep us updated because this
[30:31] Speaker 1: would be a perfect platform to be like, hey, the
[30:33] Speaker 1: stuff's back in stock.
[30:34] Speaker 5: Uh.
[30:35] Speaker 1: Rob is asking about the Gnome T shirts. Most of
[30:38] Speaker 1: them are sold out. We do have two there in stock.
[30:39] Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many what the sizes are there,
[30:42] Speaker 1: but yeah, well we make something like the Gnome T shirts,
[30:44] Speaker 1: we usually make a certain amount as sort of kind
[30:46] Speaker 1: of like a special limited edition thing, especially with the
[30:49] Speaker 1: Gnome because he's doing so much different stuff, so they're
[30:52] Speaker 1: kind of kind of like collectory.
[30:54] Speaker 3: That a lot of stuff.
[30:57] Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
[30:57] Speaker 5: All I can say is twenty twenty five. Past year
[31:00] Speaker 5: was the year of the Gnome around here, so we
[31:02] Speaker 5: did a new shirt and a new theme every month.
[31:04] Speaker 5: So I don't believe we're.
[31:05] Speaker 4: Doing that this time.
[31:06] Speaker 2: If some catches your eye, jump on it, because especially
[31:09] Speaker 2: with those limited runs, they do sell out.
[31:12] Speaker 3: Yeah, they were popular.
[31:13] Speaker 1: And then we also had a question about the Hot Sauce.
[31:15] Speaker 1: You and me both brother. My bottle's almost gone. I'd
[31:17] Speaker 1: love to get some more. So I cannot give you
[31:21] Speaker 1: an update about when the Hot Sauce will be back in.
[31:23] Speaker 3: Stop, so I apologize.
[31:25] Speaker 1: Let's see here. A question for Randalls is from Evan.
[31:28] Speaker 1: When researching for both the Long Hunters and High Hunters,
[31:30] Speaker 1: did you come across any records of color phase animals
[31:34] Speaker 1: back in the day.
[31:34] Speaker 2: That's a great question. Not that comes to mind, Not
[31:41] Speaker 2: that comes to mind.
[31:45] Speaker 4: Looks like he's a bear hunter.
[31:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, the short answer would be no, but it's interesting.
[31:50] Speaker 2: It wasn't really something that I was paying attention to.
[31:53] Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like correct me if I'm wrong.
[31:58] Speaker 2: But color phase are relatively rare, like in the eastern
[32:03] Speaker 2: half of the country when we're talking about long hunters
[32:05] Speaker 2: and then.
[32:06] Speaker 6: Piebald deer or I don't know what the stat is there,
[32:11] Speaker 6: but it's very rare.
[32:12] Speaker 2: But then those mountain men, they were just real fixated
[32:18] Speaker 2: on Griz. They do describe Griz in a lot of
[32:20] Speaker 2: different ways, like in terms of like the color of
[32:23] Speaker 2: their your coat, whether they're lighter or darker. But no,
[32:26] Speaker 2: I didn't see any like chocolate cinnamon references.
[32:30] Speaker 3: I'm sure.
[32:31] Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a research paper out there with like
[32:34] Speaker 2: historical references to color phase bears. I'm sure someone's done that,
[32:38] Speaker 2: but not, I couldn't point in the right direction.
[32:42] Speaker 1: Cool, we'll do one more for this round of clay
[32:45] Speaker 1: on Clay is on? He perfect, He is waiting. I'll
[32:47] Speaker 1: do one more question that's is from Nick. Question, how
[32:49] Speaker 1: do you determine whether to use a guide service, drop
[32:52] Speaker 1: in or go fully self guided when going to a
[32:54] Speaker 1: new destination On a tag? He says he just drew
[32:56] Speaker 1: an idaho Elk tag and he's trying to decide.
[33:00] Speaker 2: Question for you would be how much money do you
[33:04] Speaker 2: have and where would you like to spend it and experience?
[33:09] Speaker 3: Where do you want to go? Get you a guide?
[33:14] Speaker 3: If you're asking, I mean it.
[33:16] Speaker 2: It depends on are you going on your first elk hunt?
[33:20] Speaker 2: Are you going with anyone who has hunted elk before?
[33:24] Speaker 2: Like I think it's I don't think it's crazy to
[33:27] Speaker 2: go on your first elk hunt without an experienced elk
[33:29] Speaker 2: hunter and go unguided.
[33:34] Speaker 3: Yourself. You're going to learn a lot.
[33:36] Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true, but you're gonna and you're gonna make
[33:39] Speaker 5: a lot of failures.
[33:40] Speaker 2: If you're in a If you're in a position life
[33:43] Speaker 2: financially speaking to UH go guided, and you have a
[33:49] Speaker 2: guide that has good references, and you think we'll be
[33:52] Speaker 2: able to really teach you about hunting the western landscape,
[33:56] Speaker 2: I'd certainly take advantage of it, especially if it's like
[33:59] Speaker 2: something that you're comfortable spending that money.
[34:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, do your research.
[34:03] Speaker 2: I think a drop camp, generally speaking, I would be
[34:07] Speaker 2: leery of because it's sort of you're paying for something
[34:15] Speaker 2: and then you don't have that person there with you
[34:18] Speaker 2: to share their experience. And ultimately, like if you do
[34:23] Speaker 2: it DIY. You know, I went to this spot because
[34:26] Speaker 2: I wanted to go there versus I just got dropped
[34:29] Speaker 2: off there, because I feel like a drop camp can
[34:33] Speaker 2: make you question your decision making if you aren't seeing
[34:36] Speaker 2: or make you question the outfitter if you aren't seeing
[34:38] Speaker 2: animals see.
[34:39] Speaker 6: And if you do a DIY, you can always bail
[34:41] Speaker 6: and go to a different spot, right.
[34:43] Speaker 2: And you can hunt that place again for years to
[34:46] Speaker 2: come without you know, feeling like that, because that's the
[34:48] Speaker 2: other thing, is like if an outfitter takes you somewhere
[34:51] Speaker 2: and you hunt it, you don't want to go back
[34:53] Speaker 2: in there on your own the.
[34:54] Speaker 3: Next year because it's a bad Yeah, yeah, it's a
[34:56] Speaker 3: no no.
[34:57] Speaker 5: Most outfitters are going to give you a lot of
[34:59] Speaker 5: pointers for that a though. So there we're going to
[35:01] Speaker 5: have a massive leg up doing that.
[35:04] Speaker 1: And yeah, Nick says no comment about the finances because
[35:06] Speaker 1: his wife.
[35:06] Speaker 3: May be reading for you. Nick, good for you. Oh
[35:10] Speaker 3: look at the hot tip off up there. You go, well, yeah,
[35:13] Speaker 3: good luck. I hope you have a hope.
[35:15] Speaker 2: It sounds like he drew maybe uh this week in
[35:19] Speaker 2: the Idaho and un resident drawn might be planning his fall,
[35:22] Speaker 2: so hope that works out for you.
[35:25] Speaker 3: Joining us.
[35:26] Speaker 2: Next on the line is a man who needs no introduction.
[35:29] Speaker 2: You love him, We love him. He's a storyteller, he's
[35:32] Speaker 2: a musician, and black Bears tremble at the mere mention
[35:36] Speaker 2: of his name. Mister Clay nukeom, Hey, everybody, Clay, welcome
[35:41] Speaker 2: to the show.
[35:43] Speaker 3: I feel like we should clap. Yeah, I know. Do
[35:46] Speaker 3: we have a round of applause? We can do?
[35:48] Speaker 12: Phil?
[35:48] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I might. Here we go, hold on?
[35:51] Speaker 1: Oh there were he's just glistening with with with big
[35:56] Speaker 1: white tail.
[35:57] Speaker 3: Yeah, you can just see it on him.
[35:58] Speaker 4: What do you kill a big old bucker?
[35:59] Speaker 2: So well, before we get into that, buck, Clay, I
[36:02] Speaker 2: feel like I just said goodbye to you in a
[36:05] Speaker 2: hotel hallway at eleven PM in Dallas, Texas.
[36:10] Speaker 14: That happened. We embraced, we did.
[36:12] Speaker 2: I said I love you, brother, and then I gave
[36:15] Speaker 2: you a big hug and we parted ways. Clay, how
[36:18] Speaker 2: have you been? How you recovered from the tour yet?
[36:22] Speaker 3: Man?
[36:23] Speaker 14: The tour was so much fun.
[36:25] Speaker 13: I mean it was hard to recover from it because
[36:27] Speaker 13: like you come back and I mean I love everything
[36:31] Speaker 13: about where I live, but the tour is like seven
[36:37] Speaker 13: days of just a pure twenty four.
[36:40] Speaker 14: Hour day fun.
[36:41] Speaker 13: You know, we're with well, especially for me and Brent
[36:44] Speaker 13: who aren't in Montana and don't see a lot of people.
[36:48] Speaker 13: You know, we're kind of isolated to be with the crew,
[36:52] Speaker 13: to be with you and Steve and Jiannis and all
[36:55] Speaker 13: the other people that were there that weren't on stage.
[36:57] Speaker 14: Just a ton of fun.
[36:58] Speaker 13: And then you know, every night you're going to these
[37:02] Speaker 13: events where clearly it's stacked with people who are excited
[37:06] Speaker 13: to be there, excited about meat Eater.
[37:09] Speaker 14: And we had a great time.
[37:11] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I loved it.
[37:13] Speaker 2: And I think to your last point, you know, every
[37:16] Speaker 2: now and then people say like, oh, this must be
[37:20] Speaker 2: born for you doing the same thing every night. But
[37:22] Speaker 2: like it's actually very meaningful to hear from people that
[37:27] Speaker 2: they're excited about the stuff that we do, because like
[37:30] Speaker 2: right now we're sitting in this podcast studio and then
[37:34] Speaker 2: we'll go on.
[37:34] Speaker 3: About our day.
[37:35] Speaker 2: But it's really cool to go out there and meet
[37:36] Speaker 2: people and hear their stories of how they got into
[37:39] Speaker 2: hunting and sort of how meat Eater stuff fits into
[37:43] Speaker 2: their life or shape their experiences. So I really enjoyed that,
[37:47] Speaker 2: and it doesn't get old for me.
[37:48] Speaker 1: Clay was it was it hard having to play with
[37:51] Speaker 1: amateurs and hacks like Evan Felker to accompany you for
[37:55] Speaker 1: the opening song after having me accompany you for the
[37:59] Speaker 1: last tour.
[38:00] Speaker 13: Phil let me let me start off. I said, you
[38:03] Speaker 13: were greatly missed. Holy yeah I.
[38:07] Speaker 8: Was.
[38:09] Speaker 13: I was like, when I heard you weren't coming, I
[38:11] Speaker 13: was like, what, Phil's not coming? I mean Phil like
[38:15] Speaker 13: made you know, our music act last year with his harmonica.
[38:19] Speaker 14: Just unreal.
[38:20] Speaker 13: And then so there was no other musicians traveling with us,
[38:25] Speaker 13: and and so we did have h read bargaineer of
[38:31] Speaker 13: Reed's piano news. He was with me three nights.
[38:34] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[38:35] Speaker 1: I watched the videos of that, and he killed it.
[38:36] Speaker 1: I got I got little pangs of jealousy watching him
[38:39] Speaker 1: up there with you.
[38:39] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[38:39] Speaker 2: He's great, super fun guy. Great to finally meet him.
[38:43] Speaker 14: He saved the day. I mean, it was.
[38:45] Speaker 13: It's so hard for someone who doesn't play a lot
[38:48] Speaker 13: of live music or any to speak of, to just
[38:51] Speaker 13: step up six nights in a row in front of
[38:54] Speaker 13: a big.
[38:54] Speaker 14: Crowd and play. I mean, it is the challenge of
[38:56] Speaker 14: my life.
[38:57] Speaker 13: I tell people a lot of things that I do
[38:59] Speaker 13: at my age I'm comfortable with live music.
[39:03] Speaker 14: I love it.
[39:03] Speaker 13: It's like exhilarating, but I am not comfortable at all.
[39:08] Speaker 13: And so playing with Evan Felker, Holy cow, it was
[39:12] Speaker 13: like I was nervous as a cat. I actually almost
[39:17] Speaker 13: backed out at the because we'd never played together.
[39:21] Speaker 3: You know.
[39:22] Speaker 13: He gets there a little bit before the show, and
[39:23] Speaker 13: we start playing, and I recognize that my strum pattern
[39:27] Speaker 13: is different than the waltz of the bird Hunter. The
[39:31] Speaker 13: strum pattern of a of a of the bird Hunter
[39:34] Speaker 13: is different than me. And I'm not a good enough
[39:36] Speaker 13: musician to really just compensate on the fly and be like, oh, yeah,
[39:39] Speaker 13: I got it. And so I actually just said we
[39:43] Speaker 13: practiced one time, and I was like, Evan, man, these
[39:47] Speaker 13: people are they would love to see you play this.
[39:49] Speaker 13: Why don't you just play it by yourself? And so
[39:52] Speaker 13: we kind of decided that he was just going to open.
[39:54] Speaker 3: Up and then and then Steve got it.
[39:58] Speaker 13: Yeah yeah, and and you know, I appreciore what I mean,
[40:02] Speaker 13: I was kind of surprised, but yeah, Steve came in
[40:05] Speaker 13: and he was like already, and I'm like, man.
[40:06] Speaker 14: Evan's just gonna do it.
[40:08] Speaker 13: I said, I think I'm gonna mess the thing up
[40:10] Speaker 13: if I play with him, and Steve was like.
[40:12] Speaker 14: No way, you gotta get out there, man, you and
[40:14] Speaker 14: you and Evan got to play. And so oh, I'm
[40:17] Speaker 14: so glad I did.
[40:18] Speaker 2: Holy and that was And that was at the Fayetteville show,
[40:21] Speaker 2: which was kind of your your home crowd too, which
[40:24] Speaker 2: probably made it extra special.
[40:26] Speaker 14: Man, it was so special.
[40:28] Speaker 13: Of all the shows, I mean, there were the fail
[40:33] Speaker 13: the Fatal show sold out completely, and I mean they
[40:38] Speaker 13: were they were all great shows with great people.
[40:41] Speaker 14: So I don't I don't want to say it was
[40:43] Speaker 14: the best, but maybe.
[40:48] Speaker 3: The best.
[40:49] Speaker 14: Well, I mean, we had Evan Felker there for crying
[40:51] Speaker 14: out like.
[40:52] Speaker 2: It was a very warm reception from the the well,
[40:56] Speaker 2: the Newcomb clan welcomed us into their home for a
[40:59] Speaker 2: lovely lunch and then yeah, it was it was fun
[41:02] Speaker 2: that it just felt like an auditorium full of friends
[41:05] Speaker 2: and family.
[41:06] Speaker 13: Oh man, it was so meaningful that we came here
[41:08] Speaker 13: just to give back to the community.
[41:11] Speaker 14: You know.
[41:12] Speaker 13: I wish we could have let them all in for free,
[41:14] Speaker 13: you know. So it was a ton of fun, ton
[41:17] Speaker 13: of fun.
[41:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, Clay, I could relive our our rock star days,
[41:22] Speaker 2: our rock star lifestyle, forever, as you know. But we
[41:27] Speaker 2: brought you here today because you have some very exciting
[41:30] Speaker 2: news in your life and folks haven't seen it on Instagram.
[41:34] Speaker 2: You got a big old buck just recently. Can you
[41:36] Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about that?
[41:38] Speaker 3: Man?
[41:39] Speaker 13: On on January the fourth, well, okay, Christmas Day, a
[41:44] Speaker 13: buck on a place that I have access to hunt
[41:49] Speaker 13: showed up and the but it was one of those
[41:52] Speaker 13: pictures that within seconds I was texting it to my
[41:57] Speaker 13: father in law, who I was staying close touch with
[41:59] Speaker 13: about deer hunting a couple other people and was just gagging.
[42:03] Speaker 14: Over this deer.
[42:04] Speaker 13: I mean, it's the biggest deer that I've seen on
[42:06] Speaker 13: camera in a long long time. And uh, I texted
[42:09] Speaker 13: it to one of my friends who happens to be
[42:11] Speaker 13: a Navy pilot stationed in Hawaiian named Forrest Teeter, and
[42:15] Speaker 13: he goes, Jimmy Christmas.
[42:17] Speaker 14: You know, it was Christmas night. I texted him and
[42:21] Speaker 14: h and I was like, this buck will be named
[42:23] Speaker 14: Jimmy Christmas.
[42:25] Speaker 3: That's cool.
[42:26] Speaker 13: And the deer just had giant tying length and uh,
[42:32] Speaker 13: he was super sporadic. I mean I'm hunting over in
[42:35] Speaker 13: the state. Well, I killed the deer in Oklahoma. I
[42:38] Speaker 13: didn't just like anybody that knows anything about this part
[42:42] Speaker 13: of the world would know that, because I said that,
[42:44] Speaker 13: I killed it over supplemental feed and some feeding a
[42:47] Speaker 13: little bit. And this deer was very sporadic, and it's
[42:52] Speaker 13: very difficult to kill a big deer, a specific big deer.
[42:56] Speaker 14: Over any kind of supplemental feed.
[42:57] Speaker 13: I don't I don't care who you are, and it's
[43:00] Speaker 13: a ton of fun. But this deer was super sporadic,
[43:03] Speaker 13: came in the daytime just a couple of times, had
[43:06] Speaker 13: some time, which was rare, and I was able to
[43:09] Speaker 13: hunt four and a half days and finally on January
[43:14] Speaker 13: the fourth, I don't.
[43:15] Speaker 14: Think he'll fit in the frame of my camera. My
[43:18] Speaker 14: camera's not big enough. I'm gonna have to back up
[43:20] Speaker 14: a little bit.
[43:21] Speaker 3: Only smokes. Oh, it almost touches in the middle.
[43:26] Speaker 4: Looks like a mule deer.
[43:28] Speaker 13: But UH killed that deer, unbelieved twenty two yards with
[43:34] Speaker 13: bow and the characteristics of the rack. I mean, I'm
[43:38] Speaker 13: an official Boon and crocket scorer, so I mean I
[43:41] Speaker 13: I truly.
[43:43] Speaker 9: Value a beautiful.
[43:45] Speaker 14: This deer is only fourteen and a half inches.
[43:47] Speaker 13: Wide, narrow buck, but he has a G two that's
[43:52] Speaker 13: fourteen and six eight inches long.
[43:54] Speaker 14: Wow, I mean that's awesome, just when.
[43:58] Speaker 13: You're analyzing the white tails rack. I mean that there's
[44:02] Speaker 13: there's a very few deer that have a time over
[44:05] Speaker 13: fourteen inches, you know, So I mean just a just
[44:08] Speaker 13: a stud man. And yeah, he's got a split split
[44:12] Speaker 13: G two And oh, I mean I still can't believe
[44:16] Speaker 13: I killed that deer.
[44:17] Speaker 14: I'm still on cloud nine.
[44:19] Speaker 3: Very cool, very cool.
[44:21] Speaker 14: Deer fell.
[44:21] Speaker 13: You see the photo up there right now, Yeah, deer
[44:24] Speaker 13: fell right there, like right.
[44:26] Speaker 14: I didn't move that deer.
[44:27] Speaker 13: I just I just kind of re situated him about
[44:30] Speaker 13: six inches, fell right at the base of this big
[44:33] Speaker 13: rocky bluff.
[44:34] Speaker 3: Very cool.
[44:35] Speaker 14: Just a phenomenal deal man.
[44:38] Speaker 3: Yeah, he does.
[44:39] Speaker 2: Like if I glanced at that photo and I just
[44:42] Speaker 2: the only thing I looked at was where his antler
[44:44] Speaker 2: tips are and where the top of his head are,
[44:45] Speaker 2: I'd guess it's some mule deer.
[44:47] Speaker 3: Yeah you're just so tall.
[44:49] Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, he's just a dandy.
[44:51] Speaker 3: Why is that your biggest buck? You know what?
[44:54] Speaker 14: I would have swore that it was.
[44:56] Speaker 13: I mean I actually sent pictures to people, was like,
[45:00] Speaker 13: this is my biggest buck.
[45:01] Speaker 14: But when wet.
[45:02] Speaker 13: When we scored it, it wasn't, which that's a good
[45:05] Speaker 13: thing when you had a deer from years ago that
[45:08] Speaker 13: was bigger. The deer scored one sixty two and seven eights. Wow,
[45:14] Speaker 13: and so and I I killed a deer years ago
[45:17] Speaker 13: a little bigger than that, but it's definitely the biggest
[45:22] Speaker 13: deer I've killed in eighteen years.
[45:24] Speaker 14: You know.
[45:24] Speaker 2: Well, it looks like you were tent camping there too,
[45:27] Speaker 2: which I always think. I always think, if you want
[45:30] Speaker 2: to crank it up to like eleven on making a
[45:33] Speaker 2: hunt memorable, you sleep in a tent.
[45:37] Speaker 13: Man the place I'm hunting over there as so cool
[45:40] Speaker 13: because I mean there's no there's nowhere to stay. We
[45:45] Speaker 13: tent we tent camp.
[45:46] Speaker 3: We'll go over there. Very cool.
[45:48] Speaker 14: Yeah, that's all awesome.
[45:50] Speaker 13: And I was really by myself. I was just hunting.
[45:54] Speaker 13: That was kind of a unique experience. Usually there's somebody
[45:58] Speaker 13: that I'm hunting with or or I'm able to bring.
[46:00] Speaker 14: A deer home, yeah, share it with the family.
[46:03] Speaker 13: Uh, it was kind of I mean I was solo
[46:06] Speaker 13: camping the whole time, which which was unique and uh,
[46:11] Speaker 13: but when I did kill the deer there, I did
[46:14] Speaker 13: have a buddy over in that part of the world.
[46:17] Speaker 13: Alvin a good friend of mine that came and helped
[46:19] Speaker 13: me drag it out and kind of celebrated with me.
[46:22] Speaker 3: So that was very cool.
[46:25] Speaker 2: And uh, your son Bear also killed a real nice
[46:29] Speaker 2: buck this fall, so you were telling us earlier. He
[46:33] Speaker 2: got to be the sort of the big big man
[46:36] Speaker 2: on the block for about six weeks.
[46:39] Speaker 14: Yeah. Yeah, it's funny that, you know, when it rains,
[46:42] Speaker 14: it pours.
[46:43] Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was.
[46:45] Speaker 13: It was Bear killed a deer that scored one fifty
[46:48] Speaker 13: four and I was here in Arkansas, which is major.
[46:52] Speaker 14: I mean, you know, like a.
[46:55] Speaker 13: I would say, a once in a lifetime type deer
[46:57] Speaker 13: for here. I mean, they they grow him bigger and
[46:59] Speaker 13: I figure he'll kill bigger one one day here, but
[47:02] Speaker 13: monster deer, and uh yeah, I couldn't let him stay
[47:05] Speaker 13: on top.
[47:06] Speaker 14: For long, you know.
[47:12] Speaker 13: Uh no, I almost wished it scored one fifty three,
[47:15] Speaker 13: but he didn't care.
[47:16] Speaker 14: We were not competitive like that.
[47:18] Speaker 13: He was so excited that this year, and I was
[47:22] Speaker 13: so excited for his deer.
[47:23] Speaker 3: So well, it's great.
[47:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, Clay, we appreciate you joining us, and you guys
[47:29] Speaker 2: must be doing something right over there. You got it's
[47:32] Speaker 2: been been a good fall for you guys. So, uh,
[47:36] Speaker 2: you have anything else lined up? Or is that your
[47:38] Speaker 2: last tag for the season.
[47:40] Speaker 14: Well, we're actually going back over there.
[47:45] Speaker 3: Too.
[47:45] Speaker 13: I'm gonna try to kill a dough and maybe a hog.
[47:49] Speaker 13: We're gonna we're gonna go back over there in the.
[47:51] Speaker 14: Next couple of days. Got a buck tag.
[47:53] Speaker 3: Very cool, so cool.
[47:55] Speaker 2: Good luck man, Yeah, Well, good luck to Clay. It's
[47:58] Speaker 2: always a real pleasure to see you. And uh, hopefully
[48:01] Speaker 2: our pazz will cross here before too long.
[48:04] Speaker 14: Great to see all of you, Seth, Corey, doctor Randall.
[48:07] Speaker 3: Still good seeing you, Clay. Good luck over there.
[48:10] Speaker 4: Take care of that hair brother.
[48:12] Speaker 14: All right, takes a lot more work than you think
[48:15] Speaker 14: for Clay.
[48:17] Speaker 2: We can share some styling tips next time you're in town.
[48:20] Speaker 14: Next time I need some tips for you.
[48:22] Speaker 3: Randall.
[48:23] Speaker 2: You're getting there, man, it looks good. It's real good.
[48:26] Speaker 4: Called a haircut.
[48:31] Speaker 14: I told you.
[48:32] Speaker 13: My sign off comment will be I told Brent Reeves
[48:35] Speaker 13: that I'll get a haircut as soon as he starts
[48:38] Speaker 13: hunting a plot coon hound.
[48:41] Speaker 2: Well, based on the conversations that I listened to over
[48:43] Speaker 2: on the bus, that's not happening anytime soon, So.
[48:47] Speaker 3: You better get yourself some hair ties. Clay, you're just.
[48:50] Speaker 14: Gonna have to be embarrassed of your friend for a while.
[48:54] Speaker 3: All right, we'll see you, Clay. Thank you again.
[48:58] Speaker 2: Gosh, I love that guy.
[49:00] Speaker 3: Oh he's the best. It's a gem. I almost feel
[49:04] Speaker 3: like we should just end the show there.
[49:06] Speaker 2: But we've got another great segment we're Our next segment is.
[49:10] Speaker 7: The Price is Right.
[49:13] Speaker 1: He It comes from Bozeman, Montana Media Radio's most exciting
[49:19] Speaker 1: fifteen minutes.
[49:20] Speaker 7: It's the Prices Right Seth Morris, come on down, Calkins.
[49:31] Speaker 1: You're the first two and only contestants on the.
[49:33] Speaker 7: Media radios The Price.
[49:35] Speaker 6: Is Right.
[49:37] Speaker 1: Now, here's your host, Randall william.
[49:44] Speaker 3: Now, this game's real simple.
[49:46] Speaker 2: Phil's gonna tell you about a product from the vat
[49:48] Speaker 2: Eater universe, and you need to guess its price. The
[49:51] Speaker 2: player with the closest answer without going over will be
[49:54] Speaker 2: declared the winner. If both players go over, you'll both
[49:58] Speaker 2: be told to try again, and the chat should play
[50:00] Speaker 2: along as well, because whoever has the closed answer is
[50:03] Speaker 2: gonna get a real, real nice shout out from Phil.
[50:07] Speaker 3: All Right, we've.
[50:08] Speaker 2: Got three exciting products for today's show. Phil, why don't
[50:12] Speaker 2: you tell us about the first item up forbid.
[50:16] Speaker 3: Clay's boss. Unfortunately not.
[50:19] Speaker 1: It's never too early to start planning next year's holiday surprise.
[50:23] Speaker 3: What is that? And what better way to.
[50:25] Speaker 1: Tell your loved ones exactly how you really feel about
[50:27] Speaker 1: them than with a genuine deer scrotum Christmas ornament. That's right,
[50:32] Speaker 1: actual deer balls. A pair of genuine buck nuggets that
[50:36] Speaker 1: have been meticulously preserved and transformed into tasteful holiday decor
[50:40] Speaker 1: comes ready to hang just like it did between the
[50:43] Speaker 1: rear legs of a big old Arkansas white tail. Perfect
[50:45] Speaker 1: for the outdoorsman who appreciates that every part of the
[50:48] Speaker 1: deer deserves honor, including especially Bambi's family jewels. This gives
[50:53] Speaker 1: the old adage waste not want not a whole new meaning.
[50:58] Speaker 3: Deck the halls with buff ball.
[51:00] Speaker 2: How much does it get to cost to hang a
[51:02] Speaker 2: pair of buck nuts on your tree?
[51:03] Speaker 4: Get one set of nuts like one scrowed them?
[51:06] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's just per scrote You'll get a
[51:09] Speaker 2: pair in.
[51:10] Speaker 3: The in the satchel.
[51:11] Speaker 5: That's brilliant, really yeah, and then after Christmas you can
[51:14] Speaker 5: hang him from the back of your truck afterwards.
[51:16] Speaker 2: I'll share this, uh, I'll share this guy's contact info. Okay, yeah,
[51:20] Speaker 2: with these marketing them on Facebook Facebook?
[51:23] Speaker 3: Huh a uh helps me?
[51:26] Speaker 6: No?
[51:28] Speaker 3: Arkansas? Oh really? Yeah?
[51:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, I was looking for weird stuff on Facebook marketplace.
[51:34] Speaker 2: They said, why don't we begin in Arkansas?
[51:36] Speaker 3: I wonder where he gets all his buckscrows at? I
[51:39] Speaker 3: don't know. The Nuke family could probably help him with
[51:41] Speaker 3: a few. Yeah, that's true.
[51:43] Speaker 4: Man down south?
[51:45] Speaker 3: Are you still thinking?
[51:46] Speaker 4: I guess I'm done thinking for the day.
[51:48] Speaker 2: Alrighty, Seth, your answer is thirty seven fifty Wow, Corey,
[51:57] Speaker 2: your answer was I don't know nine.
[52:00] Speaker 3: Oh wow, wildly different. Phil, Well, the actual price of
[52:06] Speaker 3: the item without.
[52:07] Speaker 2: God, Well, I didn't write down the price of myself,
[52:09] Speaker 2: so I'm gonna rely on you to judge this.
[52:11] Speaker 1: The price of the ornament is thirty dollars, making Corey
[52:15] Speaker 1: our winner.
[52:15] Speaker 3: Of the round.
[52:16] Speaker 1: If we're going with the rules of this game show,
[52:19] Speaker 1: yeah we should.
[52:19] Speaker 3: You can't bust.
[52:24] Speaker 7: Phil who's closest to the chat there.
[52:27] Speaker 3: We had a couple of people here.
[52:28] Speaker 1: We had pop A medic guests twenty nine to ninety nine,
[52:31] Speaker 1: Absolute Mechanical Solutions guests twenty nine. I love that might
[52:34] Speaker 1: have been a couple more in there as well.
[52:35] Speaker 3: Oh love that, Love that Phil. What's next?
[52:38] Speaker 9: What's next?
[52:39] Speaker 3: Up?
[52:39] Speaker 7: Frouction?
[52:40] Speaker 3: Today? Forgot? You can't go over?
[52:45] Speaker 1: Let's see, it's a full case of docs catfish dip bait,
[52:48] Speaker 1: extra stiff blood added. That's four glorious gallons of the
[52:52] Speaker 1: most ungodly smelling substance known to mankind. We're talking about
[52:55] Speaker 1: a concoction so pungent, so magnificently revolting that it makes
[53:00] Speaker 1: the boat launch vault toilet smell like a Yankee candle.
[53:03] Speaker 1: And not only is this stuff strong, it's got stayin power.
[53:06] Speaker 1: Your wife will make you sleep in the garage. This
[53:08] Speaker 1: will permanently decrease the resale value of your truck. Your
[53:11] Speaker 1: neighbors will call the hoa thinking something died in your yard,
[53:14] Speaker 1: and they're not wrong, because something did die and Dot
[53:17] Speaker 1: cooked it into catfish crack cocaine. Four gallons means you'll
[53:20] Speaker 1: have enough to stink up every river in the county.
[53:22] Speaker 1: Ducks catfish dip bait. I'm gonna restart there. Ducks catfish
[53:28] Speaker 1: dip bait because of catching old mister whiskers means smelling
[53:31] Speaker 1: like you crawled out of a swamp monster's colon.
[53:34] Speaker 7: Then By god, you better be all in.
[53:38] Speaker 6: Now.
[53:39] Speaker 2: I'm seeing some guesses in the chat here, and I
[53:41] Speaker 2: want to reiterate a point in that reath.
[53:43] Speaker 7: This is four gallons. Hey, I saw twelve ounces.
[53:46] Speaker 3: Oh yeah, picture, Yeah, this is fourals. Yeah you see that.
[53:51] Speaker 3: You see that little thing.
[53:52] Speaker 2: You think you're not getting a lot of stink, but
[53:54] Speaker 2: we're talking about four gallons.
[53:55] Speaker 3: That's a full case. So think about how much.
[53:57] Speaker 2: A gallon of stink bait would cost and then multiply
[54:01] Speaker 2: it by four.
[54:02] Speaker 4: That's been a serious angler, isn't there.
[54:04] Speaker 1: We had our producer Jake chime in in the chat
[54:06] Speaker 1: and say, waste nut, wanting nut.
[54:11] Speaker 3: Solid Jake very Oh that's good, that's good man.
[54:15] Speaker 4: What does the cost? Yeah, careful, don't go over.
[54:25] Speaker 2: I mean the price of everything's going up these days. Yeah,
[54:28] Speaker 2: looks like I think eddy stink bits no exception.
[54:32] Speaker 4: I think you're trying to help them.
[54:34] Speaker 2: They make a worm ulce you're dunk in and then
[54:36] Speaker 2: the the scent milks off the worm.
[54:39] Speaker 4: Wow, I you need to get some of these.
[54:41] Speaker 2: You guys got your answers there, Yeah, let's roll. Seth
[54:45] Speaker 2: Morris sixty five dollars, Corey Culkins is seventy five dollars.
[54:51] Speaker 1: Oh well, with a price of one hundred and eighty
[54:54] Speaker 1: seven dollars. Our winner again is Corey Coulkin's.
[54:59] Speaker 6: Dang.
[55:00] Speaker 2: We could end it there with the Seth Morris or
[55:03] Speaker 2: Coreykalkin's victory, But Phil, we've got one more prize.
[55:09] Speaker 3: We sure do, Randall.
[55:10] Speaker 1: It's portable heating hunting seat, tree stand hunting heating seat,
[55:14] Speaker 1: USB comfort foldable heating seat from Timu. That's right, the
[55:18] Speaker 1: same company that brings you three dollar electronics and designer
[55:21] Speaker 1: handbags held together by prayers and glue is now in
[55:24] Speaker 1: the business of putting lithium batteries directly beneath your most
[55:27] Speaker 1: precious ass ets. Why suffer through cold mornings in your
[55:31] Speaker 1: tree stand with non incendiary insulation when you could be
[55:34] Speaker 1: sitting on a potentially combustible device manufactured by the lowest bidder.
[55:37] Speaker 1: Just crank this bad boy up to its high setting
[55:40] Speaker 1: of one hundred and forty nine degrees fahrenheiten see what happens.
[55:43] Speaker 1: Features include a battery pack of mysterious origin, heating elements
[55:47] Speaker 1: that could legally be used in residential construction, and instructions
[55:50] Speaker 1: that have been jammed through a free translation app. If
[55:52] Speaker 1: you've ever driven past a burnt up mobile home and
[55:54] Speaker 1: thought that would make a hell of a deer blind?
[55:56] Speaker 1: Your dreams are one trans Pacific shipping container away from reality.
[56:01] Speaker 1: That was rand were all good?
[56:04] Speaker 3: That was my favorite?
[56:06] Speaker 7: Who wrote that?
[56:07] Speaker 4: Is this all Randall? Yeah?
[56:09] Speaker 2: Bill, you're I've been shopping on tm a lot. There's
[56:12] Speaker 2: Team Wu's got excavators for sale.
[56:13] Speaker 4: I'm really interested in now they sell everything.
[56:16] Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, they're really.
[56:17] Speaker 4: Trying hard on the social media. Wow, so this has
[56:20] Speaker 4: gotta be dirt cheap.
[56:23] Speaker 2: I like how ordinarily, you know, you see heat represented
[56:28] Speaker 2: by like wavy red lines, but in that one they
[56:32] Speaker 2: have orange arrows that look like flames.
[56:37] Speaker 3: I forgot to mention.
[56:38] Speaker 1: The person in the chat who got it closest was
[56:41] Speaker 1: Ja Palermo eighty four. I think that was the closest
[56:45] Speaker 1: without going over but not positive.
[56:47] Speaker 3: That's a catch.
[56:49] Speaker 2: Did did we say old mister whiskers in that caffish bait?
[56:54] Speaker 3: Read? Yes we did? Okay, good, I wanted to put that.
[56:57] Speaker 4: And this is the price on Timu.
[56:59] Speaker 2: This is a price on the TMU price yep.
[57:02] Speaker 4: Okay, it's gonna be cheap.
[57:06] Speaker 3: Oh it is.
[57:08] Speaker 6: It's an electronic you know, okay Withian batteries too scary.
[57:15] Speaker 2: You guys ready, yep, flip them over. Cory says eleven dollars.
[57:19] Speaker 2: Set says one dollar. That's the Tamu man. But unfortunately,
[57:27] Speaker 2: with a.
[57:27] Speaker 1: Clean sweep and a price of eighteen dollars and forty cents,
[57:31] Speaker 1: our winner today is Corey Kalkin.
[57:35] Speaker 2: I know where your head was at, and I think
[57:37] Speaker 2: that was the smart approach.
[57:38] Speaker 3: I was hoping cor was gonna go over.
[57:39] Speaker 4: We'll have a sale soon.
[57:41] Speaker 3: Phil, Do we have a Do we have anyone nailed
[57:43] Speaker 3: at in the chat?
[57:43] Speaker 1: We had a couple of people guess, I guess seventeen
[57:45] Speaker 1: ninety nine, there might have been.
[57:47] Speaker 3: I think it was probably the closest without going over.
[57:49] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, gosh, that's fun.
[57:53] Speaker 3: I wish.
[57:53] Speaker 2: I wish my entire job here was just finding weird
[57:58] Speaker 2: stuff on the internet and writing weird stuff about it.
[58:02] Speaker 2: But unfortunately there's other things they require me to do.
[58:06] Speaker 2: That brings us to the end of the show. But
[58:10] Speaker 2: we have some time for a little more listener feedback.
[58:13] Speaker 2: If folks managed to get any questions.
[58:15] Speaker 1: We do, yeah, yeah, feel free to I don't have
[58:18] Speaker 1: a whole lot flagged right now. Also, get some questions
[58:20] Speaker 1: in and no matter how terrible and a name they are,
[58:24] Speaker 1: they might get read on the show. Let's see Jake said, Phil,
[58:28] Speaker 1: was it you that said on Trivia yesterday that you
[58:30] Speaker 1: didn't like vinegar barbecue sauce? I would never say that
[58:33] Speaker 1: because vinegar forward barbecue sauce is my favorite. I love
[58:36] Speaker 1: that tang. Give me the tang like tang over sweet.
[58:40] Speaker 1: I don't remember who said that, but someone was really
[58:42] Speaker 1: pushing ketchup? Is that seth?
[58:44] Speaker 5: No?
[58:44] Speaker 3: I like? I'm with you, Phil, Okay, I like.
[58:46] Speaker 2: It all right on the only thing I don't really
[58:49] Speaker 2: like that much is Alabama white barbecue sauce. Oh, it's
[58:55] Speaker 2: not like an everyday.
[58:56] Speaker 3: Thing for me, but every nap sauce? Is that like
[58:58] Speaker 3: another a couple times a year.
[59:00] Speaker 2: I'll eat like a half chicken with that, but it's
[59:03] Speaker 2: not like a staple of the pantry.
[59:04] Speaker 1: I agree, U Shanaya sas. My husband and I love
[59:08] Speaker 1: watching your guys at Trivia show. We are currently headed
[59:10] Speaker 1: to Colorado from Wisconsin to hum buffalo with a suppressor. Great,
[59:13] Speaker 1: what's your favorite thing to make with buffalo?
[59:16] Speaker 3: Mmm?
[59:18] Speaker 1: Randall, you've got some recent experience in this.
[59:20] Speaker 2: Well, the short answer is everything.
[59:26] Speaker 3: The pooey.
[59:27] Speaker 2: We My least favorite thing to eat is tapooy.
[59:32] Speaker 3: Man.
[59:33] Speaker 2: I think the first thing we made with the buffalo
[59:35] Speaker 2: was we did uh we made some tartar with the
[59:41] Speaker 2: with the heart, and then uh, yeah, I mean burgers.
[59:49] Speaker 3: We've eaten a lot of burgers.
[59:50] Speaker 2: We eat a lot of steaks, we eat a lot
[59:51] Speaker 2: of roasts, we eat a lot of I've been making
[59:54] Speaker 2: good beef stew, like any beef stew recipe. I'm doing
[59:59] Speaker 2: a lot of stewks barments with some of the larger roasts.
[1:00:02] Speaker 2: But you're not gonna unless you shoot like an old, old, old,
[1:00:07] Speaker 2: ancient animal. We shot a Sydney shot of one and
[1:00:11] Speaker 2: a half year old, and man, there hasn't been a
[1:00:14] Speaker 2: bite off that buffalo that I haven't enjoyed.
[1:00:17] Speaker 5: Thoughts, I'm sure you can't go wrong with any of it, Yeah,
[1:00:20] Speaker 5: depending on how old it is.
[1:00:23] Speaker 6: Yeah, we basically do anything with it that you know
[1:00:26] Speaker 6: you would do with any other red meat animal exactly.
[1:00:30] Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a pretty I wouldn't say it's
[1:00:33] Speaker 2: a close substitute to beef, but we just sort of
[1:00:35] Speaker 2: treat it like the closest thing to beef that you
[1:00:38] Speaker 2: get from a game animal and man, we haven't gone
[1:00:41] Speaker 2: wrong with anything.
[1:00:41] Speaker 3: Yeah. Nice.
[1:00:42] Speaker 4: The heart's usually my favorite part, and I can only
[1:00:44] Speaker 4: imagine this.
[1:00:45] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big boy pick.
[1:00:46] Speaker 2: It's a big boy enjoy that. Good luck on that hunt. Yeah,
[1:00:50] Speaker 2: I wish I was hunting buffalo right now.
[1:00:52] Speaker 1: Seth says, shout out to Seth and his wife Kelsey.
[1:00:55] Speaker 1: My name is Seth and my wife's name is also Kelsey.
[1:00:57] Speaker 1: Whoa you guy should meet up and grab lunch somewhere. Yeah,
[1:01:02] Speaker 1: we had Mogor ask about how my production of the
[1:01:04] Speaker 1: Christmas Carol and it went very well.
[1:01:06] Speaker 3: Mogor, it was great. Oh yeah, it was fun.
[1:01:10] Speaker 1: Let's see, we've got more demand for meat theater from Colby.
[1:01:15] Speaker 1: We'll see about that.
[1:01:17] Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a good idea. I'm going to write
[1:01:19] Speaker 3: that down Meat Theater. We've got the meat theater crew
[1:01:22] Speaker 3: in here right now.
[1:01:24] Speaker 9: We should have done it.
[1:01:26] Speaker 3: Dang, we'll do it again. We'll do it again. Sorry,
[1:01:28] Speaker 3: we should do it.
[1:01:29] Speaker 2: We should do it to Yannis without telling him that
[1:01:31] Speaker 2: we're going to do it.
[1:01:32] Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he would hate me, oh yeah, so much.
[1:01:35] Speaker 1: You'd get that his face would turn red and you
[1:01:36] Speaker 1: get that permanent grin he gets when he's uncomfortable.
[1:01:39] Speaker 6: You'd have to do a thing that This camera just
[1:01:41] Speaker 6: zoomed in on Yanni's face while Randall was doing his thing.
[1:01:47] Speaker 1: Alexander Miller. Any good books lately, guys reading anything?
[1:01:53] Speaker 3: I've been out of a book phase recently.
[1:01:55] Speaker 2: I've been in a hard book phase recently, tell you what, Alexander.
[1:02:01] Speaker 2: I reread a classic, The Breaks of the Game, by
[1:02:04] Speaker 2: David Halberstam, which tells the story of the Portland Trailblazers
[1:02:08] Speaker 2: in the late seventies as the franchise fell apart after
[1:02:11] Speaker 2: Bill Walton left once they won the title. After that,
[1:02:14] Speaker 2: I read a book called Ends of the Earth by
[1:02:16] Speaker 2: Neil Shubin, who's an arctic researchertic I should say, a
[1:02:21] Speaker 2: polar researcher. A lot of it's about Antarctica as well,
[1:02:24] Speaker 2: which I realized I don't know anything about. Yeah, what
[1:02:28] Speaker 2: do you think the elevation of the South Pole is?
[1:02:30] Speaker 3: Hmmm, probably higher than what we think many And how
[1:02:34] Speaker 3: high do you think it is? Antarctica is massive. It's
[1:02:38] Speaker 3: over nine thousand feet. Isn't that wild? I just pictured
[1:02:41] Speaker 3: the whole thing being a few feet above sea level.
[1:02:44] Speaker 2: Oh, you gotta read this book, and then after after
[1:02:49] Speaker 2: I finished that. As I was just telling Phil the
[1:02:51] Speaker 2: other day, I'm reading a book by Jeff Pearlman. It
[1:02:54] Speaker 2: was published last year called Only God Can Judge Me
[1:02:57] Speaker 2: The Many Lives of Tupac Shakur, oh biography of the
[1:03:01] Speaker 2: hip hop legend Tupac Amaru Shakur, and it goes from
[1:03:06] Speaker 2: his childhood until his untimely death in a shooting in
[1:03:08] Speaker 2: Las Vegas.
[1:03:10] Speaker 3: Listening to a.
[1:03:10] Speaker 5: Bit of Tupac, I just started the book Lewis and Clark,
[1:03:14] Speaker 5: Pioneering Naturalists.
[1:03:15] Speaker 4: Santa brought me that one sing at the little like
[1:03:20] Speaker 4: start to finish by.
[1:03:23] Speaker 5: Chapter, from starting in Saint Louis all the way to
[1:03:26] Speaker 5: the to the West coast, just kind of their what
[1:03:29] Speaker 5: they saw as far as animals and plants and what
[1:03:32] Speaker 5: they jotted down because mister Thomas Jefferson, that was one
[1:03:35] Speaker 5: of his major goals was for those guys to jot
[1:03:38] Speaker 5: down a lot of the fauna and flowers that they
[1:03:42] Speaker 5: saw along the way.
[1:03:43] Speaker 2: I don't think you can this is going to be
[1:03:46] Speaker 2: a gross overstatement.
[1:03:47] Speaker 3: I don't think I can get enough Lewis and Clark.
[1:03:49] Speaker 3: That's true.
[1:03:49] Speaker 2: I find Lewis and Clark the whole everything about it
[1:03:52] Speaker 2: to be endlessly fascinating, to have like such a unique
[1:03:56] Speaker 2: moment in time, and then to have it so thoroughly documented.
[1:04:00] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very cool.
[1:04:03] Speaker 6: I've been picking away at planes Withino the Yellowstone, which
[1:04:07] Speaker 6: has been a good one.
[1:04:08] Speaker 3: Said Runella Classic. We should have a little I got
[1:04:10] Speaker 3: that one. We should have like a little.
[1:04:12] Speaker 2: Library of reprints called Steve Renella's Literary Classics. Yep, and
[1:04:16] Speaker 2: they're just all Steve can provide a commentary, Phil, What
[1:04:20] Speaker 2: about you?
[1:04:21] Speaker 3: What are you doing?
[1:04:22] Speaker 1: I actually I'm reading a book called The Will of
[1:04:25] Speaker 1: the Many by James James Islington. It's a fantasy book
[1:04:28] Speaker 1: that I wasn't really into the first fifty pages, but
[1:04:31] Speaker 1: now it's getting twisty and thick, and I'm enjoying it
[1:04:34] Speaker 1: quite a bit. I'm switching off between that and my
[1:04:36] Speaker 1: third play through a Bother's Gate three featuring Doctor Randall
[1:04:38] Speaker 1: the Bard.
[1:04:41] Speaker 3: Yeah, I pheel. We got to talk games, Yeah, we do.
[1:04:43] Speaker 2: Verizon finally sent me my free Nintendo Switch. I'm I've
[1:04:47] Speaker 2: been I've been exploring High Rule. I'm back in my
[1:04:50] Speaker 2: zel to face.
[1:04:51] Speaker 1: I love it so much. Randall told me he ordered
[1:04:54] Speaker 1: a pro controller the other day.
[1:04:55] Speaker 3: Which fell. Just let me out.
[1:04:57] Speaker 2: I'm attacking boblkens. Is that what they're called?
[1:05:00] Speaker 3: The coblins? That's another Yeah. Oh man, I had so
[1:05:02] Speaker 3: much fun.
[1:05:04] Speaker 1: We gotta find some multiplayer game we can play together,
[1:05:06] Speaker 1: and I'll maybe stream it together.
[1:05:07] Speaker 3: I think the I think the audience would like. Yeah.
[1:05:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, once I'm better at two k a world better
[1:05:11] Speaker 2: watch out? All right, gang, unless you got anything else? Yeah,
[1:05:15] Speaker 2: I think it's we can pull the plug on this
[1:05:17] Speaker 2: grandmother and shut her down.
[1:05:19] Speaker 4: Well done.
[1:05:20] Speaker 2: Alrighty ladies and gentlemen, thanks for watching, Thanks for listening.
[1:05:26] Speaker 2: We love you, we appreciate you. Happy New Year, and
[1:05:28] Speaker 2: we will see you here next week, same time, same place.
[1:05:32] Speaker 3: Good night,

Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. Every show and episode belongs to its publisher and plays from the publisher's own feed; this site hosts none of them.