# The future of Grattan and policy in Australia: John Daley interviews Danielle Wood

An episode of [Grattan Institute](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/950926314), 27 Jul 2020, 28 min.

Audio: https://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/865139080-grattaninstitute-the-future-of-grattan-and-policy-in-australia-john-daley-interviews-danielle-wood.mp3

The second part of our two-part special podcast on Grattan's past and future. This week John Daley, our CEO of eleven years, interviews our new CEO, Danielle Wood, on the future of Grattan, the importance of public trust in institutions, and her optimism in the potential for policy change in Australia.

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