# Upgrade A podcast by Relay. Upgrade looks at how technology shapes our lives, from the devices in our hands and pockets to the streaming services that keep us entertained. Hosted by Jason Snell and Myke Hurley. Feed: https://relay.fm/upgrade/feed ## Latest episodes - [643: The iPhone Duo Review](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/d46f410f5e28) (2026-10-26, 146 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade643.mp3 - [642: iOS is Weird Now](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/4abfb144f921) (2026-10-19, 95 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade642.mp3 - [641: A Fashion Chimney](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/9b4b439965f5) (2026-10-13, 101 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade641.mp3 - [640: Moving Through Space](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/7d1fddd7d4c8) (2026-10-05, 92 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade640.mp3 - [639: I Know How to Go to Sleep](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/3c09e3ca3b3b) (2026-09-28, 91 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade639.mp3 - [638: I Stared Directly into the M6](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/e235b58c4d13) (2026-09-21, 112 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade638.mp3 - [637: My Job Is to Eat the Marshmallow](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/7461d4cb6838) (2026-09-14, 99 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade637.mp3 - [636: Opening a Book Backward](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/8a29c053d8be) (2026-09-09, 112 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade636.mp3 - [635: The 2026 September Event Draft](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/85308c2a8e87) (2026-08-31, 114 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade635.mp3 - [634: Crime River](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/899f344fe9fa) (2026-08-24, 79 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade634.mp3 - [633: iPhone Tippy-Top](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/25a0689baf8c) (2026-08-18, 100 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade633.mp3 - [632: \[Redacted Apple Information\]](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/2dfed3d5604e) (2026-08-10, 83 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade632.mp3 - [631: Nessie Beneath the Waves](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/6cc70748e02a) (2026-08-03, 99 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade631.mp3 - [630: Repeat 600 Times](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/cc1b01fc5cca) (2026-07-27, 131 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade630.mp3 - [629: Jony Ive Loves a Handle](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/f2d93e915c8b) (2026-07-20, 84 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade629.mp3 - [628: Conspiracy to Steal Trade Secrets](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/7d8e1de37b12) (2026-07-13, 98 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade628.mp3 - [627: Do Not Use, Do Not Turn Off](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/4b390c929d83) (2026-07-06, 90 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade627.mp3 - [626: Unprecedented Weirdness](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/073a67b233c3) (2026-06-29, 88 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade626.mp3 - [625: Road to the Apple II: Computer Faire (Part 4)](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/164a88adf498) (2026-06-25, 34 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade625.mp3 - [624: The Memory Guys](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/8b0f02adf159) (2026-06-22, 116 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade624.mp3 - [623: Road to the Apple II: A Complete Computer (Part 3)](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/00b906ac1972) (2026-06-18, 37 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade623.mp3 - [622: It's Doing It!](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/a19e2dbabd35) (2026-06-15, 106 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade622.mp3 - [621: Road to the Apple II: The Partnership (Part 2)](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/ef98e9566133) (2026-06-11, 34 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/designed_002.mp3 - [620: Sweating the Details](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/098843f53c5c) (2026-06-08, 89 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade620.mp3 - [619: Road to the Apple II: Apple for Sale (Part 1)](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/fd424e9d01a3) (2026-06-04, 34 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade619.mp3 - [618: The WWDC Keynote Draft 2026](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/5bfa3a4bd0f1) (2026-06-01, 89 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade618.mp3 - [617: Image Playgrounds Is My Roman Empire](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/cd7d38534652) (2026-05-25, 97 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade617.mp3 - [616: Outmoded But Not Vintage](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/be806fb6c951) (2026-05-18, 110 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade616.mp3 - [615: But in Citrus!](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/3096cda3c857) (2026-05-11, 114 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade615.mp3 - [614: $100 Billion Is the Floor](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/77814282c50a) (2026-05-04, 106 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade614.mp3 - [613: I Know I Picked Too Many iPods](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/111777a651a3) (2026-04-27, 97 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade613.mp3 - [612: 'That Leader is John Ternus'](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/787ca146f2dd) (2026-04-20, 154 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade612.mp3 - [611: Drain the Bin](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/655919d44f44) (2026-04-13, 108 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade611.mp3 - [610: We Hear You're Good at Computers](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/e4981c63ceab) (2026-04-06, 102 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade610.mp3 - [609: The Origin of Apple](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/5f414c066014) (2026-03-30, 101 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade609.mp3 - [608: Pop and Lock](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/1991670e075d) (2026-03-23, 140 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/upgrade/upgrade608.mp3 - [607: Lime Has Left the Chat](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/40adf592cfec) (2026-03-16, 100 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade607.mp3 - [606: Photogenic Lemon](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/67c77e977ad4) (2026-03-10, 108 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade606-nicelemon.mp3 - [605: The 2026 March Experience Draft](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/590a72f2fe14) (2026-03-02, 105 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade605.mp3 - [604: The Shifting Sands of Liquid Glass](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/8f2a17518e17) (2026-02-23, 111 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade604_RevA.mp3 - [603: Recalibrate the Quality Bar](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/fef90451218b) (2026-02-16, 103 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade603.mp3 - [602: Get Our Necks Limber](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/80a2239035bf) (2026-02-09, 99 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade602.mp3 - [601: Spreadsheet for Creators](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/ba62fdce8635) (2026-02-02, 102 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade601.mp3 - [600: Based on Hopes and Dreams](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/25548c44894a) (2026-01-26, 93 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade600.mp3 - [599: Free... Although](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/85a0c1ea4c3f) (2026-01-19, 96 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade599.mp3 - [598: Transparent Man of the People](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/caf5cf111876) (2026-01-12, 104 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade598.mp3 - [597: Our 2026 Wish List](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/36e629996a61) (2026-01-05, 121 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade597.mp3 - [596: The 2025 Upgradies](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/69fc03bb84ab) (2025-12-29, 159 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade596.mp3 - [595: Contrast in the Horse](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/f70dad712d17) (2025-12-22, 133 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade595.mp3 - [594: Featuring Crimes](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/918152703/f8770a2cdc46) (2025-12-15, 107 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/613/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/upgrade/upgrade594.mp3 Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. 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