# Ep 181: Breaking Up With Your Thoughts: An interview with Byron Katie

An episode of [Help Me Be Me](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/895918183), 27 Sep 2022, 1 h 04 min.

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This is my interview with the amazing author/speaker, Byron Katie. I wanted to do this interview because I feel that her process is powerful but simple and it very much enables individuals to practice disengaging from thoughts that are not helpful and/or cause a lot of pain and perpetuate dysfunctional behavior. We discuss her process for breaking free of thoughts that keep us trapped in loops of reaction. We also discuss how these thoughts are self-inflicted and the idea that pain is something that is predominantly created by ourselves, in our minds. TRIGGER WARNING: we discuss topics such as being the victim of a physical violation, so please avoid if this is a topic too sensitive for you. Byron Katie is the creator of “The Work” and practices “The 4 Questions of Inquiry” as well as “The Judge Your Neighbor Worksheet” which is found at the link below. To check out Byron Katie’s app plus download her free worksheets, head to: https://thework.com/ For more of my work, you can head to YayWithMe.com xo! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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