# Expanding the Heart's Capacity with Matthew Burgess and Cátia Chien

An episode of [The Children's Book Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/817756935), 3 Mar 2026, 37 min.

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Matthew Burgess and Cátia Chien, author and illustrator of Fireworks (Clarion Books), join Matthew to talk about becoming a mirror for feelings and experiences in their ode to a summer day. Visit Matthew Burgess online at matthewjohnburgess.com Visit Cátia Chien online at catiachien.com Learn more about Boyds Mills and their upcoming programs by visiting www.boydsmills.org. Our podcast logo was created by Duke Stebbins (https://stebs.design/). Our music is by Podington Bear. Podcast hosting by Libsyn. You can support the show and buy me a coffee at matthewcwinner.com or by clicking the link in the show notes. Be well. And read on.

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