# Thin Ice and Unusual Punishments

An episode of [Criminal](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/809264944), 30 May 2025, 24 min.

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Two years ago, we started making Criminal Plus episodes — behind-the-scenes conversations featuring Phoebe and Criminal co-creator Lauren Spohrer. Today, we’re sharing some of those conversations with you — about everything from Phoebe’s jangly bracelets to the reason a judge ordered a man to watch Bambi. And we’re also sharing a promo code if you’d like to support our work and join our membership program. Use the code “JOINUS” for 20% off of an annual Criminal Plus membership, at thisiscriminal.com/plus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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