# \[Interview+\] Phobos Might Already Be Destroyed and Reformed. Possibly Multiple Times

An episode of [Universe Today Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/794058155), 14 Apr 2026, 53 min.

Audio: https://c10.patreonusercontent.com/4/patreon-media/p/post/155517919/149aa4413c504ed6924b598e24c2cd13/eyJhIjoxLCJpc19hdWRpbyI6MSwicCI6MX0%3D/1.m4a?token-hash=mTB3Yaiw6zQfPPoUpEN-jqMSj-s-alzzToLKeRZvrV8%3D&token-time=1794268800

BONUS PART STARTS AT 37:54 Watch here (with no ads and a bouns part) or on YouTube: https://youtu.be/JMP7N_Dkga0 In the recent years we found out that a lot of asteroids are rubble piles. And we will be finding more of them. But it appears that Phobos might have a lot of characteristics of rubble piles. Which could have some really interesting consequences. 🟣 Guest: Dr. Harrison Agrusa https://hagrusa.github.io/ 📜 Tidal disruptions of rubble piles: The case of Phobos https://arxiv.org/pdf/2602.21912 • 00:00 Intro • 02:02 Rubble pile asteroids • 17:39 DART mission aftermath • 21:45 Best ways to deflect an asteroid • 25:01 Phobos • 37:54 LUCY mission • 47:32 Current obsessions • 50:54 Final thoughts

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