# \[Bonus\] Event Horizon JMG: Why Intelligence May Be Extremely Rare in the Universe

An episode of [Universe Today Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/794058155), 23 Mar 2026, 1 h 09 min.

Audio: https://c10.patreonusercontent.com/4/patreon-media/p/post/153626433/5ec6e3c123094aecb877e4d46e60e6e4/eyJhIjoxLCJpc19hdWRpbyI6MSwicCI6MX0%3D/1.mp3?token-hash=WSDMPuqm_3UWzdM0qquZsMI8ash-eDV371Et7xZst7g%3D&token-time=1794355200

This is an episode of John Michael Godier's Event Horizon show that we did together. YouTube version on JMG's channel: https://youtu.be/mbn3uK7V3b0

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